₦airaland Forum

Lobolintin:
Currently sharing room with one Rat ...,

I don buy rat bible,him deyjump am,saw this today.....he jumped it...so I knew this isn't rat but my Village people wey come dry observe .,....

All the same,govt should bring out free rat poison Nah,..abi no be so,,,,,rat wey dey my gutterself big pass Cat,wewey dey Lagos knows how far Nah

Search your room....there might be a rat nest with babies there. Get rid of the babies.

Or...get someone to fumigate the place.

dubemnaija:
OK. Some bonkoms will still come out and analyse to us how GEJ caused the spread

Wait for them to wake up from Mushin weed induced slumber tomorrow

They will #blameGEJ

nigerians sha common sense aint 4 everyone though.rats spreads the disease so the federal govt shuld start witch hunting rats also.dont worry when u see rats in your compound just wait for buhari and d minister they wuld kum kill it for u.lol

1 big man or top politician neva die dats y he still issuing 'we will, we will'. D guy probably has no clue as to hw 2 tackle dis prob

untainted:
This blame game got to stop; know when to draw the line.
Show leadershipa already FG; this is a freaking emergency!!!
I don't remember ministry of health whining during the Ebola outbreak.
The states cannot wag the federal government.
...and what is it about the things they will do in the health sector?
Tackle this emergency first; campaign later.
SMH

Kikero112:
That's because it is not common in the SE.

Plus....it is very easy to set up an isolation unit should it reach the SE.

The North is the area most at risk.

But its presently in Rivers, Delta and Ebonyi

I know its Only God that saved us. I thanked God when ebola entered Nigeria through Lagos because I know Lag has better medical facilities compared to other states(Northern states). I imange what could have happened if Ebola entered through the North.

Lassa started from the North and now it spreading like fire across the country.

I know the Lassa fever willnot pass Lagos State.

chesterlee:
But its presently in Rivers, Delta and Ebonyi

Yep....but still....you really do not need a big building before you can fight lassa.

It is easy to set up an isolation unit.

It's obvious ur not a doctor, and it's more obvious that ur not very smart, or else u won't be talking about a professor, a teacher of medical teachers that way! Ode! Receive sense IJN

Emekamex:
[s]This present Health Minister is cluelessness personified[/s].

But your people denied having Lassa now... na illiteracy go kill una...

chesterlee:
So they couldn't provide a single control centre in the East?

Apc sha!

teamchocolate:
It's obvious ur not a doctor, and it's more obvious that ur not very smart, or else u won't be talking about a professor, a teacher of medical teachers that way! Ode! Receive sense IJN

I will rather be a dullard than have professors that cant practice what they teach and solve common problems. You are the one really in need of sense if you are defending an obviously clueless, inept and unprepared Health Minister.

ojimbo:
affecting the most religious country in the world. i believed thoes God of men never see this one coming. i wonder if God hates us so much upon all we worship him here in africa

Maybe when we start emulating Jesus instead of worshipping jetsetters, recognise that faith without work is dead, just maybe then, we will get our acts together.

Abeg oo,dos it infect cat too? The all cats in my compound have all migrated.

I blame Jonathan

So continue to be a dullard which u obviously already are

Doctors are not magicians, if there is not structure on ground, what do u want them to do.... Ebola was an imported epidemic which was lucky to have come through Lagos which had a health system in place that worked in terms of manpower, surveillance and other favourable factors... LF is a different kettle of fish.. it is primarily endemic and concentrated in the north where there is a lot of illiteracy and health non-awareness.. I think the minister is doing just fine. BTW I worked as a volunteer during ebola and I am working closely with Lagos state on LF too so I know what I am saying..
If ebola had not come in thru lagos, and doctors were not on strike, the story may have been different because the health system is weak.. the health system comprises of all components that make health work. Maybe u may like to visit the W.H.O page and look at the 6 building blocks of the health system and rate Nigeria... there has been a systemic rot in the health system over the years.. definitely over the past decade.. it's not something that can be remedied over 6 months..wish I cud give you some practical examples but can't do that without compromising my identity...
Anyway I do hope you are better informed...

Emekamex:
I will rather be a dullard than have professors that cant practice what they teach and solve common problems. You are the one really in need of sense if you are defending an obviously clueless, inept and unprepared Health Minister.

teamchocolate:
It's obvious ur not a doctor, and it's more obvious that ur not very smart, or else u won't be talking about a professor, a teacher of medical teachers that way! Ode! Receive sense IJN

I don't really condone insulting anybody but in most countries, health ministers are not doctors, not even pharmacists or nurses. Yet they do brilliant jobs.

I know many medical profs. Most won't make good administrators/ministers. Being a dean, VC or MD of a teaching hospital won't necessarily prepare one for such a political job. Except they have more extensive exposure to politics previously. Like Chris Ngige, Peter Odili (though PDP member), etc.

I think they should stick to medicine/surgery & research.

The blame game should stop. Pls buhari n co do something before something do we nigerians. Thanks!

He insulted my teacher and senior colleague first..

In most countries that you speak, they don't have minister of health, what they have is a SURGEON-GENERAL who is always a doctor..forget the propaganda of one army surgeon nurse who is surgeon general in the US, I have had this argument countless times..
The Surgeon general is ALWAYS A DOCTOR. (M.D)

AreaFada2:
I don't really condone insulting anybody but in most countries, health ministers are not doctors, not even pharmacists or nurses. Yet they do brilliant jobs.

I know many medical profs. Most won't make good administrators/ministers. Being a a dean, VC or MD of a teaching hospital won't necessarily prepare one for such a political job.

I think they should stick to medicine/surgery & research.

Justicealh3:
I know the Lassa fever willnot pass Lagos State.

Wake up from your slumper! It has spread to 17 states already.

teamchocolate:
So continue to be a dullard which u obviously already are

Doctors are not magicians, if there is not structure on ground, what do u want them to do.... Ebola was an imported epidemic which was lucky to have come through Lagos which had a health system in place that worked in terms of manpower, surveillance and other favourable factors... LF is a different kettle of fish.. it is primarily endemic and concentrated in the north where there is a lot of illiteracy and health non-awareness.. I think the minister is doing just fine. BTW I worked as a volunteer during ebola and I am working closely with Lagos state on LF too so I know what I am saying..
If ebola had not come in thru lagos, and doctors were not on strike, the story may have been different because the health system is weak.. the health system comprises of all components that make health work. Maybe u may like to visit the W.H.O page and look at the 6 building blocks of the health system and rate Nigeria... there has been a systemic rot in the health system over the years.. definitely over the past decade.. it's not something that can be remedied over 6 months..
I hope you are better informed...

->Stop spewing trash, this isn't the first epidemic of Lassa Fever that Nigeria has suffered before.
->What previous governments have always done was to contain the spread by quickly identifying patients and quarantining those that may have had close contacts with them.
->The first thing that your health minister did was to play politics and blame the previous administrations without even trying to contain the spread.
->FYI Ebola didn't end in Lagos, it later found its way to Rivers State and was also contained by the previous government so you have no excuses to give.
->The present administration acted late and seem not to have the zeal to vigorously quarantine suspected patients and also contain the spread.
->Lassa Fever is more predominant in the North not just because of poor health care but because that area is more susceptible to bush burning due to adverse dry weather and these destroys the habitats of the contagious rats who have no other choice than to scavenge for food in human settlements and homes thereby infecting them.

We can't compare lassa fever case to Ebola even if both are hemorrhagic disease. lassa fever can occur anywhr in d country becos d causative animal is found in most homes. Ebola is not a native to Nigeria, just came coincidentally & was found out by a good doc on time. I blame Nigeria leaders, lassa fever is a common thing in Nigeria dat occur almost every year. By now facilities should have been in place and people well informed abt dis disease d way people av knowledge of malaria which is predominant in Africa

teamchocolate:
He insulted my teacher and senior colleague first..

In most countries that you speak, they don't have minister of health, what they have is a SURGEON-GENERAL who is always a doctor..forget the propaganda of one army surgeon nurse who is surgeon general in the US, I have had this argument countless times..
The Surgeon general is ALWAYS A DOCTOR. (M.D)

US is just one country. Even US has a Secretary of Health & Human Services. Current one is Sylvia Matthews Burwell.

UK, Eire, France, Germany, Australia, South Africa, India and most commonwealth countries have one.

Surgeon-General is NOT minister of health, please don't mislead people. It's equivalent to Chief Medical Officer in UK. There is Chief Nursing Officer too.
I have even met both Liam & Sally, previous & Current CMOs.

Haba! Just admit and learn if you don't know something.

The APC led government should not play politics with an issue like this. Instead they should fight this epidemic the way the Goodluck Jonathan government did with ebola.

You have obviously misunderstood me.. there is nowhere I said minister of health equals surgeon general... Nigeria's health system is quite like no other... I was just trying to infer from my post that the head of any medical team is always the doctor (M.D) however you want to look at it...


Particularly in the Nigerian context, it is imperative that a doctor heads the health system.. allied health workers should remain just that...allied!

And just curious, the chief medical officers you met, were they doctors or allied health workers... I have had a brief stint with UK NHS, pls humor me and tell me they were allied health workers...

AreaFada2:
US is just one country. Even US has a Secretary of Health & Human Services. Current one is Sylvia Matthew Burwell.

UK, Eire, France, Germany, Australia, South Africa, India and most commonwealth countries have one.

Surgeon-General is NOT minister of health, please don't mislead people. It's equivalent to Chief Medical Officer in UK. There is Chief Nursing Officer too.
I have even met both Liam & Sally, previous & Current CMOs.

Haba! Just admit and learn if you don't know something.

teamchocolate:
You have obviously misunderstood me.. there is nowhere I said minister of health equals surgeon general... Nigeria's health system is quite like no other... I was just trying to infer from my post that the head of any medical team is always the doctor (M.D) however you want to look at it...


Particularly in the Nigerian context, it is imperative that a doctor heads the health system.. allied health workers should remain just that...allied!

And just curious, the chief medical officers you met, were they doctors or allied health workers... I have had a brief stint with UK NHS, pls humor me and tell me they were allied health workers...

Ok.
But in developed climes, we talk of multidisciplinary team. We now have "nurse specialists, consultant nurse".....and so on.

Nurses are doing more specialised job, and delegating more jobs to nurses, provided they are trained to do so, is the way forward. Patients get treated quicker. Midwives now do a whole lot, and O&G docs don't have to see some at all. Same with dialysis & to some extent with chemotherapy/radiotherapy.

Why this epistle? Because you might be in a position in the health service some day to bring progressive approach.

That way, the cat & mouse thing between docs & other healthcare professionals in 9ja will reduce.

Over all, our major healthcare problem in 9ja is poor primary care. No family doctors/general practitioners in the communities to see people, educate, vaccinate and so on.

Prophylaxis/preventive care would do a lot to improve health care. Even now that Lassa fever is around. Primary care ought to be the first point of contact for worried patients.

Errrrr

Funny enough the Benue state that rat is their major meat is not on the list. On the lighter mood. This lassa fever is serious and I know how deadly it is . I remember when this happen in Liberia early 2014 .Pease our government should try their best. It is more dangerous than EBOLA .

Rexphobia:
Henceforth, any rat I catch...

For your own sake, don't try that. It might bite you in the process.

My fear is if you manage to keep your food stuffs very safe and secured st home,what is the safety conditions or storage conditions of the ones you buy afresh from the market? because I know a mart in my estate that when I visit late in the night ,I see rats as big as Garfield around the shop.