₦airaland Forum

jl115:
Depends how you classify cities, I see you took the 5 Metropolitan Municipalities, then again City of Johannesburg municipality consists of Joburg City, Santon, Soweto and Midrand that can all be classified as Cities on their own.

But anyway this isn't the debate....The fact is a Nigerian State= South African Province which you rightly said!!

oh my!! why do you guys like arguing blindly! for goodness sake!.. lagos has cities too! VI, surulere etc.. as pretoria has sunnyside, gezina etc.. please stop arguing! you people are just empty headed!, i've stayed in both countries....perhaps you peeps travel!! chai!

Gauteng - South West (province/region)
Pretoria, Joburg..etc - Lagos, Ogun etc (State)
sunnyside, sandton - VI, Ogba etc (Cities)
then.. streets

iterator24:
oh my!! why do you guys like arguing blindly! for goodness sake!.. lagos has cities too! VI, surulere etc.. as pretoria has sunnyside, gezina etc.. please stop arguing! you people are just empty headed!, i've stayed in both countries....perhaps you peeps travel!! chai!

Gauteng - South West (province/region)
Pretoria, Joburg..etc - Lagos, Ogun etc (State)
sunnyside, sandton - VI, Ogba etc (Cities)
then.. streets

You really don't know where this discussion was all about. We all know Lagos is a state. Our argument was that a province and a state are much and the same thing apart from the fact that states only enjoy much of independence from central government.

Our argument is State = Province.

Burundi crisis-

Time for South Africa to lead


http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/news/item_id-42062/

iterator24:
oh my!! why do you guys like arguing blindly! for goodness sake!.. lagos has cities too! VI, surulere etc.. as pretoria has sunnyside, gezina etc.. please stop arguing! you people are just empty headed!, i've stayed in both countries....perhaps you peeps travel!! chai!

Gauteng - South West (province/region)
Pretoria, Joburg..etc - Lagos, Ogun etc (State)
sunnyside, sandton - VI, Ogba etc (Cities)
then.. streets

uhmm....NO sunnyside is just an area within Pretoria CBD its part of the City, this comment alone proves you have never been to Pretoria.

Santon is a city on its own

Joburg is a city own its own, there are no cities within Joburg.

How do you want to compare Lagos(State) with a population of 25 Million to Johannesburg that has a population of 990 000?? Even if you count the whole metropolitan it only amounts to 4 million.

That why i said Lagos state = Gauteng Province that has a population of 12 million

FighterPilot:
You really don't know where this discussion was all about. We all know Lagos is a state. Our argument was that a province and a state are much and the same thing apart from the fact that states only enjoy much of independence from central government.

Our argument is State = Province.

how can province be equal to a state when it's an administrative division of it? please englighten me

jln115:
uhmm....NO sunnyside is just an area within Pretoria CBD its part of the City, this comment alone proves you have never been to Pretoria.

Santon is a city on its own

Joburg is a city own its own, there are no cities within Joburg.

How do you want to compare Lagos(State) with a population of 25 Million to Johannesburg that has a population of 990 000?? Even if you count the whole metropolitan it only amounts to 4 million.

That why i said Lagos state = Gauteng Province that has a population of 12 million

lagos[state] is equal to gauteng[province] because of demographics? you're confused. i'm currently in pta for the record

iterator24:
lagos[state] is equal to gauteng[province] because of demographics? you're confused. i'm currently in pta for the record

uuuhhh.......Yes. and how they are Governed

For example:

Lagos state is run by a Governor, which is equivalent to a Premier in South Africa, a Premier Governs a Province

Both Lagos state and Gauteng have capitals namely Ikeja and Johannesburg, both Ikeja and Johannesburg have a Chairman/Mayor.

And BTW i grew up in the Pretoria vicinity and i can assure you that Sunnyside is nothing more than a suburb in Pretoria!!

Nice lil piece of kit...

jln115:
uuuhhh.......Yes. and how they are Governed

For example:

Lagos state is run by a Governor, which is equivalent to a Premier in South Africa, a Premier Governs a Province

Both Lagos state and Gauteng have capitals namely Ikeja and Johannesburg, both Ikeja and Johannesburg have a Chairman/Mayor.

And BTW i grew up in the Pretoria vicinity and i can assure you that Sunnyside is nothing more than a suburb in Pretoria!!

do you know ikeja's size before comparing to joburg? .. you should compare ikeja to places like centurion not JHB..

iterator24:
do you know ikeja's size before comparing to joburg? .. you should compare ikeja to places like centurion not JHB..

Johannesburg: Population: 957,44
Ikeja : Population: 861,30

Centurion has less than half the population as Ikeja.

Lagos land area = 3345 km2

Johannesburg area =1645 km2
Pretoria = 6345 km2.
Durban = 2292 km2
Bloemfontein = 6284 km2
East London =2536 km2
Port Elizabeth = 1959 km2
Cape Town =2536 km2

Gauteng province land area =18,178 km2

iblawi:
Lagos land area = 3345 km2

Johannesburg area =1645 km2
Pretoria = 6345 km2.
Durban = 2292 km2
Bloemfontein = 6284 km2
East London =2536 km2
Port Elizabeth = 1959 km2
Cape Town =2536 km2

Gauteng province land area =18,178 km2

And?

In Terms of Governance and Population size a Nigerian state=South African Province, a Region in Nigeria isn't self Governing, it doesn't have a Governor or Premier, yet states within that region have a Governors and Mayors, A South African Province does have a Premier and is self governing and within a province there are Metros that have Mayors.....Thus very similar to the Nigerian state system.

Also, i saw you brought up Centurion, not many people now about it, are you currently in Centurion?

jln115:
And?

In Terms of Governance and Population size a Nigerian state=South African Province, a Region in Nigeria isn't self Governing, it doesn't have a Governor or Premier, yet states within that region have a Governors and Mayors, A South African Province does have a Premier and is self governing and within a province there are Metros that have Mayors.....Thus very similar to the Nigerian state system.

Also, i saw you brought up Centurion, not many people now about it, are you currently in Centurion?

Krugersdorp ni. No, Am in Abuja.

Iterator24 mentioned Centurion.

iblawi:
Krugersdorp ni. No, Am in Abuja.

Iterator24 mentioned Centurion.

A fvck!! thought you were Iterator24.

FighterPilot:
Burundi crisis-

Time for South Africa to lead


http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/news/item_id-42062/

You should have led in C.A.R. Bangui instead of running away and abandoning fellow African brothers into the hands of Seleka. Nobody trusts South Africa anymore. You cherry pick where you want to go and seek the easiest spots to give your self-glory seeking fake help.

agaugust:
You should have led in C.A.R. Bangui instead of running away and abandoning fellow African brothers into the hands of Seleka. Nobody trusts South Africa anymore. You cherry pick where you want to go and seek the easiest spots to give your self-glory seeking fake help.

Till me why didn't French help when Seleka attacked Bangui??

agaugust:
◘ Shaka C2 system is actually INFERIOR to Eagle system.

◘ Shaka C2 is ONLY for brigade sized forces and below....means maximum 5,000 troops coordination limited capability.

"Exercise Ndlovu, now underway, is expected to provide the South African Army and Joint Operations (J Ops) Division a first opportunity to test the recently-delivered Chaka brigade-and-below C2 system . "

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20892



◘ Shaka C2 system is ONLY for small brigade sized military operations, NOT an entire battle space the size of Scotland.

◘ Eagle system is for a whole army and air force in a battle space as big as Scotland in REAL-TIME network.

◘ The Eagle system commands and controls NA and NAF 30,000 troops and 100 aircraft spread all over North East Nigeria as big as Scotland.

I am sure the mature minded and honest Africans here will refuse to be misled by immature and glory seeking commentators who believe the rest of Africa is jungle bush while they only like in urban cities. Pity this continent, the kind of people we have at the tail of the map of Africa.

FROM YOUR OWN SOURCE

Mobile C2 systems to support
battalion and company commanders, and
location sensors, called "Impi" to track own
forces. The Army wanted enough of these to
support three simultaneous peace support
operations elsewhere in Africa and one training
exercise at home.

Stop deceiving people!

jln115:
Johannesburg: Population: 957,44
Ikeja : Population: 861,30

Centurion has less than half the population as Ikeja.

stop this demographicall bvllsh!t.. we're 3x your size plus you've never been to nigeria..






#(not centurion, midrand)

iterator24:
stop this demographicall bvllsh!t.. we're 3x your size plus you've never been to nigeria..






#(not centurion, midrand)

Not just demographics bro, how they are governed to! for all intensive purposes a State=Province.


Anyway I know the Centurion and Midrand area like the back of my hand, grew up in Centurion and went to School in Midrand. You've probably seen the new Waterfall city/Mall of Africa that's opening this April, will be Africa's largest shopping center.

jln115:
Not just demographics bro, how they are governed to! for all intensive purposes a State=Province.


Anyway I know the Centurion and Midrand area like the back of my hand, grew up in Centurion and went to School in Midrand. You've probably seen the new Waterfall city/Mall of Africa that's opening this April, will be Africa's largest shopping center.

i thought the menlyn mall is upgrading for that title

iterator24:
i thought the menlyn mall is upgrading for that title

You surely don't know SA. You are foreigner here but you surely have a lot to learn. The biggest mall in Africa will not be in Menlyn.

iterator24:
stop this demographicall bvllsh!t.. we're 3x your size plus you've never been to nigeria..






#(not centurion, midrand)

It is not about demographics. It is about State = Province.

agaugust:
You should have led in C.A.R. Bangui instead of running away and abandoning fellow African brothers into the hands of Seleka. Nobody trusts South Africa anymore. You cherry pick where you want to go and seek the easiest spots to give your self-glory seeking fake help.

The question will be " Was SANDF deployment approved by UN?". The answer is NO. So it was just a country-to-country memorandum of understanding. Hence, SA cannot decide to lead in CAR when there was no government and when the regional community ruled that we should withdraw from that country.

Agaugust, our fake military researcher is wrong again as always.

agaugust:
You should have led in C.A.R. Bangui instead of running away and abandoning fellow African brothers into the hands of Seleka. Nobody trusts South Africa anymore. You cherry pick where you want to go and seek the easiest spots to give your self-glory seeking fake help.

1. CAR is not in our sphere of influence

2. Local nations would not support our plans for CAR

You sound very butthurt at the fact that while you fail to secure your own country South Africa is stabilizing one and about to start stabilizing another

iterator24:
i thought the menlyn mall is upgrading for that title

I don't even think Menlyn makes Gautengs top 5(Maybe after its upgrade it break the top 5), Currently the Largest mall in South Africa and SSAfrica is Gateway Mall in Durban

patches689:
1. CAR is not in our sphere of influence

2. Local nations would not support our plans for CAR

You sound very butthurt at the fact that while you fail to secure your own country South Africa is stabilizing one and about to start stabilizing another

South Africa has never stabilized any country in case you don't know.

iblawi:
South Africa has never stabilized any country in case you don't know.

Apart from Lesotho and Burundi?

Anyway Lagos cant be compare with Gauteng Province. The difference its very huge in terms of economic, infrastructure, development etc. Only population density has Lagos in advantage but otherwise nothing important about Nigeria.

In military terms Nigeria has not invented anything....training its provided by foreign instructor a testimony of a failure. Military hardware absolutely nothing hence a comparison by AUGUSTUS is always about South Africa with China, Pakistan, USA and the entire western world. A further admission of Nigerian backwardness.

Economical except GDP which Nigeria possess advantage by population size only otherwise nothing. South Africa produces more electricity than the entire African continent combined. Gauteng Provinces alone produces more than what Nigeria can afford.

We have more companies and factories more than what Nigeria possess. a modern Road infrastructure streaches more than 93 000 kms of paved freeways and highways. Modern Universities are top in Africa and amongst top 100 in the world. South Africa possess medical discoveries like heart transplant etc.

DO NOT COMPARE NIGERIA WITH SOUTH AFRICA......THE ONLY DIFFERENCE SOUTH AFRICA POSSESS FACTS AND NIGERIA ONLY HOT AIR AND ARROGANCE BASED ON IGNORANCE AND MISPLACED PATRIOTISM INVENTED OUT OF LIES.

SANDF

Thiza:
SANDF

Welcome back! Great Pics BTW.

iblawi:
South Africa has never stabilized any country in case you don't know.

Lol!!!! What about LESOTHO, BURUNDI and DRC?

FighterPilot:
Lol!!!! What about LESOTHO, BURUNDI and DRC?

non is stable