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Jessicha:
If they partook of the sin , that make them sinners . You mean animals are sinners too ?

Good, i will also like to ask you a question.

were Adam and Eve commanded to eat the animals for food when they were still in the garden? If no, why? and if your answer is yes, pls can you explain with reference from the bible.


Thank you.

author=CAPTIVATOR post=38173489

Noah and his families are animals ryt ? Show me where God gave animals permission to eat each other ?

To show that man never knew how to eat meat before Noah's time,in Gen 9:4. God teaches his family how to eat animal meat as he instructs them not to eat the blood that comes with it. If they ate meat before, would they have needed that instruction.

Now read this:
"Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

4“But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it."

take note of that bolded.

Read this article also on the issue: Take note of bolded.

"In Genesis 9 Noah receives a covenant from the Lord. Part of the covenant removed the prior restrictions against eating meat, allowing Noah and his family to kill animals for food. However, the allowance came with this proviso: “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it” (verse 4)." http://www.gotquestions.org/eating-meat-with-blood.html

And the translators are wrong ? Meaning of beast : " a large animal , especially a dangerous four footed one "

Don't use modern day English to define the word beast in the Hebrew language.

This is the meaning of the word beast used in that scripture:

beast
chay (khah'-ee)
age, alive, appetite, beast, company, congregation, life(-time), live(-ly), living (creature, thing), maintenance, + merry, multitude, + (be) old, quick, raw, running, springing, troop.

BTW,not all translations use the word "wild beast". So yes a translator can be wrong in presenting the message as it is. There are many proofs online do a research.


Now read this to show shedding of blood was never allowed among beasts in the garden.

Genesis 9: But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. 5And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being"

God said He will demand an account of all blood shed including from animals. Well, lets rethink. Why will he demand an account from animals if to shed blood in the garden was His original purpose?

I think I have made much of my point.

Jeromejnr:
To show that man never knew how to eat meat before Noah's time,in Gen 9:4. God teaches his family how to eat animal meat as he instructs them not to eat the blood that comes with it. If they ate meat before, would they have needed that instruction.

Now read this:
"Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

4“But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it."

take note of that bolded.

Read this article also on the issue: Take note of bolded.

"In Genesis 9 Noah receives a covenant from the Lord. Part of the covenant removed the prior restrictions against eating meat, allowing Noah and his family to kill animals for food. However, the allowance came with this proviso: “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it” (verse 4)." http://www.gotquestions.org/eating-meat-with-blood.html



Don't use modern day English to define the word beast in the Hebrew language.

This is the meaning of the word beast used in that scripture:

beast
chay (khah'-ee)
age, alive, appetite, beast, company, congregation, life(-time), live(-ly), living (creature, thing), maintenance, + merry, multitude, + (be) old, quick, raw, running, springing, troop.

BTW,not all translations use the word "wild beast". So yes a translator can be wrong in presenting the message as it is. There are many proofs online do a research.


Now read this to show shedding of blood was never allowed among beasts in the garden.

Genesis 9: But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. 5And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being"

God said He will demand an account of all blood shed including from animals. Well, lets rethink. Why will he demand an account from animals if to shed blood in the garden was His original purpose?

I think I have made much of my point.

you are on point sir.

Now i referred my question to jesica (op)

let her answer my question.

Princewell2012:
Good, i will also like to ask you a question.

were Adam and Eve commanded to eat the animals for food when they were still in the garden? If no, why? and if your answer is yes, pls can you explain with reference from the bible.


Thank you.

Lol , answer her question bro , are animals sinners ?

Jeromejnr:
To show that man never knew how to eat meat before Noah's time,in Gen 9:4. God teaches his family how to eat animal meat as he instructs them not to eat the blood that comes with it. If they ate meat before, would they have needed that instruction.

Now read this:
"Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything.

4“But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it."

take note of that bolded.

Read this article also on the issue: Take note of bolded.

"In Genesis 9 Noah receives a covenant from the Lord. Part of the covenant removed the prior restrictions against eating meat, allowing Noah and his family to kill animals for food. However, the allowance came with this proviso: “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it” (verse 4)." http://www.gotquestions.org/eating-meat-with-blood.html

Offside !

Once again : show me where God give animals the permission to eat each other ?

Don't use modern day English to define the word beast in the Hebrew language.

This is the meaning of the word beast used in that scripture:

beast
chay (khah'-ee)
age, alive, appetite, beast, company, congregation, life(-time), live(-ly), living (creature, thing), maintenance, + merry, multitude, + (be) old, quick, raw, running, springing, troop.

BTW,not all translations use the word "wild beast". So yes a translator can be wrong in presenting the message as it is. There are many proofs online do a research.

Loooool , after you confess the underlined, now tell me the meanin of beast ?

Now read this to show shedding of blood was never allowed among beasts in the garden.

Genesis 9: But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.

The YOU is Noah NOT ANIMALLLSSSS

5And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being"

God said He will demand an account of all blood shed including from animals. Well, lets rethink. Why will he demand an account from animals if to shed blood in the garden was His original purpose?

I think I have made much of my point.

Accounting for the blood of humans , see the color . NOT FOR the BLOOD OF ANIMALS. Show me where God demand an acounting bcoz an animal kill other animals ?

CAPTIVATOR:
Offside !

Once again : show me where God give animals the permission to eat each other ?





Loooool , after you confess the underlined, now tell me the meanin of beast ?



The YOU is Noah NOT ANIMALLLSSSS



Accounting for the blood of humans , see the color . NOT FOR the BLOOD OF ANIMALS. Show me where God demand an acounting bcoz an animal kill other animals ?

You dodged my questions. So I don't know what you are saying here. You were the one that said Adam could kill animals to eat in the garden so why not prove to us.

Secondly, a beast means a large four footed creature (Encarta). Not a carnivore.

Thirdly, Your questions have been rightly answered. Go back and study. And also show us where animals killed each other in the garden? when they were busy eating herbs.

Yea! and also tell us when animals changed their minds and started attacking humans?

Jeromejnr:
You dodged my questions. So I don't know what you are saying here. You were the one that said Adam could kill animals to eat in the garden so why not prove to us.

Secondly, a beast means a large four footed creature (Encarta). Not a carnivore.

Thirdly, Your questions have been rightly answered. Go back and study. And also show us where animals killed each other in the garden? when they were busy eating herbs.

Yea! and also tell us when animals changed their minds and started attacking humans?

You totally misunderstand me @ underlined , my point is : either Adam sinned or he didnt , animals will still die , coz they are naturally born not to live forever but to be caught and destroyed ! 2 pet 2:12

Princewell2012:
you are on point sir.

Now i referred my question to jesica (op)

let her answer my question.

She was somewhere twisting scriptures and saying that animals have spirits. So don't even bother for an explanation.

Jessicha:
What Natural cycle ! That means even without eating the fruit man will eventually die since it a natural cycle , Hmm are you now telling us God scam man ?

I just dey laugh.
So you can see the bible does not really make sense.
Why shld animals die. I love this question

Animals die because living things get old and die, because of diseases, because they get killed buy other animals or natural disasters.

Story about adam and eve is nothing but story

Jeromejnr:
Did the earth come from Adam? Then explain to us why we have earthquakes.

Did Jesus also die for salvation of the earth from earthquakes? Why will they all stop in the new earth? Why will there even be a new earth? Is it for God or for men?

Open your heart, that you may see the ignorance that lies within.

I give up on religious people.
So you think quakes don't happen on other planets?
You think storms don't happen on other planets?
You think volcanic eruptions don't happen on other planets?
So you think they happen on earth alone?

science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/15mar_moonquakes/

Read about storms on other planets google is your friend.

Defending the bible is damn difficult cos you will end up saying silly things.

CAPTIVATOR:
And you are told that the curse is death , right? Infact , Gen 3:14 only mentions the beast of the field .

This begs the question: what about the birds of the sky and the fishes of the sea , why do they also die ?

Even plants die. They are also living things. The guy forgot to address that.

ojuu4u:
GOD doesnt promise humans they wont die 'physicaly" frm adam but he was talkin of spiritual immotality .Gen 3.22. (God pushd them out of garden to prevent them eating tree of life)

Na wa o. From what you are saying here. So adam was going to die?
I thought jesus came to undo the sin of adam so we can have eternal life through him and the bible takes about the new earth in revelations where god would restore man back to his original plan. But here you are saying adam and eve would have died even if they did not eat the fruit. Issoright. Lol
This is why I love discussing Christianity, no better comedy. I am always well entertained.

HardMirror:
I give up on religious people.
So you think quakes don't happen on other planets?
You think storms don't happen on other planets?
You think volcanic eruptions don't happen on other planets?
So you think they happen on earth alone?

science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/15mar_moonquakes/

Read about storms on other planets google is your friend.

Defending the bible is damn difficult cos you will end up saying silly things.

I hear you Sir.

HardMirror:
I just dey laugh.
So you can see the bible does not really make sense.
Why shld animals die. I love this question

Animals die because living things get old and die, because of diseases, because they get killed buy other animals or natural disasters.

Story about adam and eve is nothing but story

You are always sprewing thrash ; no wonder u couldnt defend ur statement on the other thread , meanwhile if u had read this thread with open mind you will have seen the biblical reason why animals die . But how would u even see that ?

If u think the bible doesnt make sense , you that make sense should tell me why humans speak different languages ? I belive ur pin wisdom should be able to answer that , so ?

Jessicha:
Are you serious at all ? Animals into the glory of CHILDREN of God !

Pls say i dont know instead of uttering trash .

Sister do you really need explanations to your questions or you just want to make mockery of the word of God.?

Jessicha:
You are always sprewing thrash ; no wonder u couldnt defend ur statement on the other thread , meanwhile if u had read this thread with open mind you will have seen the biblical reason why animals die . But how would u even see that ?

If u think the bible doesnt make sense , you that make sense should tell me why humans speak different languages ? I belive ur pin wisdom should be able to answer that , so ?

Yes I know why humans speak different languages, but my answer won't be meaningful to you After all you know I only have pin wisdom and my answer is not based on your book of all answers. Lol. I am sure you think you know why humans speak different languages already.
I enjoy christain discussions better than any comedy show. Keep the good work up. You are doing a fantastic job here

HardMirror:
Na wa o. From what you are saying here. So adam was going to die?
I thought jesus came to undo the sin of adam so we can have eternal life through him and the bible takes about the new earth in revelations where god would restore man back to his original plan. But here you are saying adam and eve would have died even if they did not eat the fruit. Issoright. Lol
This is why I love discussing Christianity, no better comedy. I am always well entertained.

bros pls read ur local bible to make u undastand beta, weneva jesus comes, its our souls nd nt physical body. That wil go to heaven oo. Rememba God directed angel to push out adam and eve because he dnt want want them to eat fruit of life that wil make them nt to die