When those that worship Jesus pbuh came to pillage , enslave , and loot Africa, how many Africans died in this crusade ?

Are the numbers comparable to the indigenous people the worshippers of Jesus pbuh butchered in the Americas and Australia?

What is it about the worshippers of the cross that causes them to commit genocides on such horrific scales.

hockeyoilers:
When those that worship Jesus pbuh came to pillage , enslave , and loot Africa, how many Africans died in this crusade ?

Are the numbers comparable to the indigenous people the worshippers of Jesus pbuh butchered in the Americas and Australia?

What is it about the worshippers of the cross that causes them to commit genocides on such horrific scales.

foolish man where is your brain? Ur question is irrelevant, so the only thing i will help you with is to tell you to accept Jesus and be free

btw no body worship the cross... The cross brought us salvation

Bonapart:
foolish man where is your brain? Ur question is irrelevant, so the only thing i will help you with is to tell you to accept Jesus and be free

btw no body worship the cross... The cross brought us salvation

whiich kaain mumu cross,didnt paul said jesus was hanged on a tree

Besides attack d question,not d carrier,cos u wouldnt ve done d same,if this was bout islam or other religion

Bonapart:
foolish man where is your brain? Ur question is irrelevant, so the only thing i will help you with is to tell you to accept Jesus and be free

btw no body worship the cross... The cross brought us salvation

Brother read your Bible

In the Old Testament God approved the practice and laid down rules for buyers and sellers (Exodus 21:1-11, Leviticus 25:44). Men are at liberty to sell their own daughters (Exodus 21:7). Slaves can be inherited (Leviticus 25:45-6). It is acceptable to beat slaves, since they are property — a master who beats his slave to death is not to be punished as long as the slave stays alive for a day or two, as the loss of the master's property is punishment enough:

And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. Exodus 21:20-21

One of the slave ships that left Africa was actually called ' Jesus '

Surely you know your own history, I don't live there and I know this

hockeyoilers:



Brother read your Bible

In the Old Testament God approved the practice and laid down rules for buyers and sellers (Exodus 21:1-11, Leviticus 25:44). Men are at liberty to sell their own daughters (Exodus 21:7). Slaves can be inherited (Leviticus 25:45-6). It is acceptable to beat slaves, since they are property — a master who beats his slave to death is not to be punished as long as the slave stays alive for a day or two, as the loss of the master's property is punishment enough:

And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. Exodus 21:20-21

what is now exactly your claim... Jesus came and brought us the way of the kingdom and exactly how things are done over there

now Jesus is the way, truth and life. He also came to lift the veil of old testament

Khd95:


whiich kaain mumu cross,didnt paul said jesus was hanged on a tree

Besides attack d question,not d carrier,cos u wouldnt ve done d same,if this was bout islam
or other religion

what's this one sayin
accept Christ first and i will guide you through... Your blasphemy is forgiven

Everyone kills, pillages. Not just Christians. Do you believe the killing and the pillaging has ended? Who's doing it now? It's life. You may have to do it to others too someday.

hockeyoilers:
When those that worship Jesus pbuh came to pillage , enslave , and loot Africa, how many Africans died in this crusade ?

Are the numbers comparable to the indigenous people the worshippers of Jesus pbuh butchered in the Americas and Australia?

What is it about the worshippers of the cross that causes them to commit genocides on such horrific scales.

You are only half right.

You are right on the fact that christianity was used to justify enslaving and pillaging West Africa. The most popular slave ship was named "the good Jesus".



Where you are wrong, hypocritical and downright ignorant is the fact that you are a muslim saying this. You see, islam came to West Africa through slavery as well. Slavery is mentioned in the Quran. There is no punishment for slavery in the Quran, despite it being a worse offense than adultery- which has a prescribed punishment.

Go and read about the slave dealings of Arabs with the Kanem Bornu empire.

Infact, muslims took slaves from Nigeria long before Christians did.


There is even a hadith that says that your prophet traded in slaves

JackBizzle:



You are only half right.

You are right on the fact that christianity was used to justify enslaving and pillaging West Africa. The most popular slave ship was named "the good Jesus".



Where you are wrong, hypocritical and downright ignorant is the fact that you are a muslim saying this. You see, islam came to West Africa through slavery as well. Slavery is mentioned in the Quran. There is no punishment for slavery in the Quran, despite it being a worse offense than adultery- which has a prescribed punishment.

Go and read about the slave dealings of Arabs with the Kanem Bornu empire.

Infact, muslims took slaves from Nigeria long before Christians did.


There is even a hadith that says that your prophet traded in slaves

Forget the foolish hypocrite.

dalaman:


Forget the foolish hypocrite.

Guy, you don't understand. The thing pains me. The level of hypocrisy and ignorance when you can look at other religions and criticize them but do not look at your own.

hockeyoilers:
When those that worship Jesus pbuh came to pillage , enslave , and loot Africa, how many Africans died in this crusade ?

Are the numbers comparable to the indigenous people the worshippers of Jesus pbuh butchered in the Americas and Australia?

What is it about the worshippers of the cross that causes them to commit genocides on such horrific scales.

And this coming from a muslim is hilarious.

What ever the Christian crusaders did, the Islamic crusaders did even worse..

so why not tell us how the Islamic crusaders worshippers of Allah did .. how they pillaged, enslave and loot...

johnydon22:
And this coming from a muslim is hilarious.

What ever the Christian crusaders did, the Islamic crusaders did even worse..

so why not tell us how the Islamic crusaders worshippers of Allah did .. how they pillaged, enslave and loot...

they always bring up the crusaders story forgetting what lead to the forming of crusaders.

the Muslim army conquered most of middle east and stole Jerusalem for over 700 years. that's when the roman catholic called for the crusaders mainly to fight back and take the holy land.

after that was accomplished the crusaders diverted from its original goal and did bad things...


we acknowledge they did wrong but the reason it was created was for defence.


Muslims are hypocrites and liars

So anyways how many millions of dead Africans are a result of crusaders in the name of Jesus pbuh. Just like the slave ship they named after Jesus pbuh



You in Africa today in 2016 are still feeling the reprocussion of the crusaders in the name of Christian religion.

^^^^

The clown couldnt reply any of the rebuttals he got.

JackBizzle:
^^^^

The clown couldnt reply any of the rebuttals he got.

How many of you did they sell in bundles ? Were anyone of your family on the slave ship called Jesus ?

^^^

about 12 million black slaves taken from Africa by muslims.

Yet, we have a muslim brother preoccupied with christian slavery. Hypocrisy is strong here.

The crusaders not only took slaves , they colonized Ur lands . In Congo alone millions dead by crusaders. Then took Ur resources.

Africa still suffer today from there genocide on the black man

The crusaders killed 10 million alone in congo.that is just 1 country. Brother learn Ur history wake up

hockeyoilers:
The crusaders killed 10 million alone in congo.that is just 1 country. Brother learn Ur history wake up

Neither a christian nor a congolese.

WHITE AMERICAN CHRISTIANS BUILT THEIR ECONOMY ON THE LARGEST SLAVE TRADE IN HISTORY

History has shown this. Africa still suffers today from the disgusting demonic practices the crusaders inflicted for no other reason then hatred for dark skin.

"…the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example… Had the holding of slaves been a moral evil, it cannot be supposed that the inspired Apostles … would have tolerated it for a moment in the Christian Church. In proving this subject justifiable by Scriptural authority [Luke 12:47], its morality is also proved; for the Divine Law never sanctions immoral actions."
Richard Furman, Baptist State Convention, letter to South Carolina Governor, 1822

De Bow's Review, Southern and Western States
Volume XI, New Orleans, 1851, AMS Press, Inc. New York, 1967



If the white man attempts to oppose the Deity's will, by trying to make the negro anything else than "the submissive knee-bender," (which the Almighty declared he should be,) by trying to raise him to a level with himself, or by putting himself on an equality with the negro; or if he abuses the power which God has given him over his fellow-man, by being cruel to him, or punishing him in anger, or by neglecting to protect him from the wanton abuses of his fellow-servants and all others, or by denying him the usual comforts and necessaries of life, the negro will run away; but if he keeps him in the position that we learn from the Scriptures he was intended to occupy, that is, the position of submission; and if his master or overseer be kind and gracious in his hearing towards him, without condescension, and at the same time ministers to his physical wants, and protects him from abuses, the negro is spell-bound, and cannot run away

Tellingly, the pro-slavery Confederacy adopted the motto “Deo Vindice”, (“God On Our Side”). Here are just a few of the many documents (still available on the internet) where nineteenth century Christians argue for slavery in the USA and against the abolitionist arguments of "infidels" - ie secularists

A Defense of Southern Slavery by a Southern Clergyman - 1851
Bible Defense of Slavery by Rev. Josiah A.M. 1852
An Essay on the Origin, Habits of the African Race by John Jacobus Flournoy 1835 (Expounds on the "Curse of Cain"
Cotton is King and Pro-Slavery Arguments by E.N. Elliot LLD, 1860, over 900 pages
Slavery as Recognized in the Mosaic Civil Law by Rev. Stuart Robinson
Bible Servitude Re-Examined, with Special Reference to Pro-Slavery Interpretations and Infidel Objections by Rev. Reuben Hatch 1862
Slavery Sanctioned by the Bible - A Tract for Northern Christians 1861
The American Churches the Bulwarks of American Slavery by James Gillespie Birney 1885
The Pro-slavery Argument, as Maintained by the Most Distinguished Writers by William Harper, William Gilmore Simms, James Henry Hammond, Thomas Roderick Dew 1852
Religion and Slavery by Rev. James McNeilly, D.D. (Presbyterian Minister) 1911
The Right of American Slavery by True Worthy Hoit 1815
The Christian Doctrine of Slavery by George Armstron 1857
Does Slavery Christianize the Negro? by Thomas Wentworth Higginson 1855
Slavery Ordained by God by Rev. Fred. A. Ross, D.D.
Review of Bishop Hopkins' Bible view of slavery by JP Lundy 1863
Slavery Examined in the Light of the Bible by Lee Luther 1855
Bible Vindicated: A Series of Essays on American Slavery by Jonas Hartzel 1858
The Interest in Slavery of the Southern non-slave-holder. The Right of Peaceful Secession. Slavery in the Bible by JDB De Bow 1860
The Bible and Slavery - A Brief Examination of the Old and New Testaments on Servitude 1867
Southern Slavery and the Bible - A Scriptural refutation of the principal arguments upon which the abolitionists rely. A vindication of southern slavery from the Old and New Testaments by EW Warren 1864
Bible Slaveholding not Sinful by HD Ganse 1856 (poor quality)
Scriptural Researches on the Licitness of the Slave-trade by R Harris 1788
White Supremacy and Negro Subordination; Or, Negroes a Subordinate Race, by John H. Van Evrie 1870

Lets also not forget that there was an Arab slave trade in east Africa. Muslims enslaved blacks long befroe whites did and commited worse atrocities. Why should any black person be a muslim

lepasharon:
Lets also not forget that there was an Arab slave trade in east Africa. Muslims enslaved blacks long befroe whites did and commited worse atrocities. Why should any black person be a muslim

Sister prove this to us surely you can back up what you claim. You're aware one of the crusaders slave ships was called Jesus ?
We haven't even touch how many aboriginals killed in the Americas and Australia at the hands of the crusaders, that could be tens of millions alone

The crusaders killed 10 million in Congo alone. This doesn't take into account the millions who had hands chopped off.

In south Africa crusaders killed so many we may never know the true extent.

According to Christian tradition, Blacks were inherently inferior, a consequence of their descent from a biblical character called Ham, which accounted for both their colour and their inferior status. Here is one of thousands of statements of the Christian position, from the Letters and Speeches of the Hon. James H. Hammond, edited by the Christian gentleman himself in 1866 (He was a United States Senator):

The doom of Ham has been branded on the form and features of his African descendants. The hand of fate has united his color and destiny. Man cannot separate what God hath joined.

The Rev. J. C. Postell, in July, 1836, delivered an address at a public meeting at Orangeburgh Court-house, S. C., in which he maintains; 1. That slavery is a judicial visitation. 2. That it is not a moral evil. 3. That it is supported by the Bible. He thus argues his second point:-

It is not a moral evil. The fact that slavery is of Divine appointment, would be proof enough with the Christian, that it could not be a moral evil. But when we view the hordes of savage marauders and human cannibals enslaved to lust and passion, and abandoned to idolatry and ignorance, to revolutionise them from such a state, and enslave them where they may have the gospel, and the privileges of Christians; so far from being a moral evil, it is a merciful visitation. If slavery was either the invention of man or a moral evil, it is logical to conclude, the power to create has the power to destroy. Why then has it existed? And why does it now exist amidst all the power of legislation in state and church, and the clamor of abolitionists? It is the Lord's DOINGS AND MARVELLOUS IN OUR EYES: and had it not been done for the best, God alone, who is able, long since would have overruled it. IT IS BY DIVINE APPOINTMENT." (http://utc.iath.virginia.edu/christn/chesjgbat.html

hockeyoilers:


Sister prove this to us surely you can back up what you claim. You're aware one of the crusaders slave ships was called Jesus ?
We haven't even touch how many aboriginals killed in the Americas and Australia at the hands of the crusaders, that could be tens of millions alone

''You're aware one of the crusaders slave ships was called Jesus ?'' Is that your new found fact ?! Hurray 3 points for you !

The same way you are calling out the bullcrap in another religion, do it for your own. Perhaps You too would be an atheist. Stop the hypocrisy. Muslims did worse to blacks during slavery

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/9chapter3.shtml

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zM_MzkLKPY

hockeyoilers:
WHITE AMERICAN CHRISTIANS BUILT THEIR ECONOMY ON THE LARGEST SLAVE TRADE IN HISTORY

History has shown this. Africa still suffers today from the disgusting demonic practices the crusaders inflicted for no other reason then hatred for dark skin.

Like muslims dont hate dark skin. Hey aswad !



fecking hypocrite

From Islamic literature, manifestations of racism and racist discrimination subsequently followed within the Islamic world.[1] For example, an Arab poet in the 7th century wrote: "The blacks do not earn their pay by good deeds, and are not of good repute; The children of a stinking Nubian black—God put no light in their complexions!"[8