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| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 11:18pm On Jan 26, 2016 |
Annunaki:If I may offer my opinion on this, although it wasn't directed at me. It is wrong to assert that all religion come from God. God is the author of no religion. However most Prophets and Truth Bringers whose teachings have been systematized and distorted by religious movements, indeed were God's sent. As such, Mohamed, Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Jesus, and others were authentic Prophets and for some of them Truth Bringers. Religion is therefore the intellectual distortion and systematization of otherwise genuine truths sent by God. With respect to Mohamed being a rapist and committing all sort of atrocities, it is important to know there is a difference between History as related and recorded by men, and true History, especially regarding the ancien times. Human history -especially concerning the Antiquity - is a Work in progress. There has been a lot of deformation and distortion and most religious books do not reflect the actual happenings, lives and teachings of those prophets/Truth bringers. The purest and most accurate source of knowledge of the (spiritual) history of mankind is what is sometimes referred to as the Book of life. There comes a time in one's spiritual development where he is granted the possibility to consciously access the Book of life where all is recorded, and truly know about the lives of those prophets, the mayas, Atlantide etc. Until then, it may be sacrilegious to assert that those prophets lived a life of sin and dissolution. This is my humble opinion, on the basis of my spiritual experiences and the revelations I have received. Feel free to examine it with your heart/intuition and reject it if you find it irrelevant. Greetings. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by CoolUsername: 11:35pm On Jan 26, 2016 |
analice107:It is believed in Islam that Prophet Muhammad is a descendant of Abraham. Typing out the whole genealogy for you to see is a waste of time because religion is about belief. I'm just telling you what is believed in Islam. And since they believe that Muhammad is a descendant of Abraham; then, they believe in the same god that Abraham worshiped. It's as simple as that. To me, it's just mythology but I feel that we should still get the facts of the stories right. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by asquare3: 12:14am On Jan 27, 2016 |
PlayerMeji:making headlines because they want you to believe so, if in a scientific experiment less than ten result negate over a thousand what conclusion would be drawn from such experiment. if muslim are truly terrorist and islam by priciple preaches violence over one billion muslim is enough reason the world would have been in a world-war. if muslim are terrorist you will not take the risk of meeting them on the street you will avoid any resident with mosque in it, but alas these "all terrorist are muslim" thinking and media hypnotism are false. execept if you don't meet muslim daily in your street, or in your neighborhood |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 6:26am On Jan 27, 2016 |
benodic:Thanx for the response, so in your opinion what truth do you think mohammed brought And is it possible God will send a messenger that will start a religion with violence, sustain and spread it with violence. The teaching left in his so called holy book remains the source/cause of misery for millions over the centuries since the birth of islam. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 6:37am On Jan 27, 2016 |
LoJ:Thanx for your response but in the case of mohammed his life is very well documented and a lot of the vile stories attributed to him are corroborated by several of writers who where close to him. That aside, he authored the quoran and going by the contents of the quoran we can conclude that he was a hate preacher, murderer and narcissist. The case of mohamed is not about his message being distorted like most other prophets. In mohamed's case he had an evil message/agenda ab initio or which kind of messenger from God will engage in armed robbery to raise funds to spread the message he was sent with ![]() |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by adekhingz(op): 9:20am On Jan 27, 2016 |
Zoharariel:which fi lm be this one ![]() |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by benodic: 10:20am On Jan 27, 2016 |
@ Annunaki seek thou only truth and truth alone and forget about messengers and books. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 11:20am On Jan 27, 2016 |
Annunaki:Hello Annunaki, If you carry out some little research even over the Internet, you'll quickly realise that there are a lot of reasons to doubt the muslim's tradition about the deeds and sayings of Muhammad, and even the claim that he authored the Quoran is questioned by some Historiographers. That's why I told you there is a difference between generally accepted history and real history. All in all, I'd back the advice of Benodic up. It is my perception that you should Focus more of searching and finding the Truth in your heart, and less about religion and religious claims. When one seeks the Truth with a genuine heart, he undergoes billions of experiences that will eventually lead him to the forecourt of God. Cheerful greetings. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 11:39am On Jan 27, 2016 |
Just to add that, what I said regarding Muhammad, also applies to Jesus, Buddha, Moses, and most prophets/Truth Bringers. Sayings and Facts attributed to them by their followers, pseud-epigraphs, traditions, religious books, and even human history, are not always consistent with what they actually preached or said. This intellectual and cultural, conscious or unconscious distortion of events/teaching is not new, can be observed in other domains of life, and is at the origin of all religions and contradictions among the messages of each of those prophets. Without these, the message of those Prophets would have united perfectly in a universal Truth at the center of the multiverses. Nonetheless with spiritual development it is possible in this life or the next, to consciously draw from the records of God and receive light on many an event, which remain a Mystery for men such as; the real message of Jesus/Muhammad, are they other forms of life, reincarnation, etc. Cheers. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 12:07pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
benodic:What exactly is truth and how do you seek it without the help of the messengers? |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 12:13pm On Jan 27, 2016*. Modified: 12:53pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
LoJ:Thanx for the elucidation, if you don't mind, what exactly is your religious belief? |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 12:24pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
LoJ:Unlike other messengers, there was absolutely nothing in mohamed's teachings that even remotely begins to suggest that he was enlightened other than mohamed's personal claims. I don't believe his message was distorted, he was a fake ab initio who used brute force to spread his 'message' unlike other messengers. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 12:44pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
Annunaki:I respect your belief although I disagree with it. It is my principle never to oppose what people are genuinely convinced about. Time and experience will teach each one of us in due time on the veracity or otherwise of our beliefs, in this life, or the next. Annunaki:I don't mind. I belong to no religion. I however respect every man and his religious beliefs provided he doesn't force it on others. It is my perception that religion and human mediation is not a requirement/necessary to true spirituality and service to God. Everyone who loves every creature as or more than himself, will undergo spiritual experiences that will ultimately guide him to the forecourt of God. This is my experience and that of many others. If you have other questions, feel free to ask them. I will gladly offer my perception on them. Thank you for your most precious time. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 12:55pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
LoJ:So how then do you attain this spirituality without a 'religion' as a guide ![]() |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 1:17pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
Annunaki:Thank you for your question. In most people's mind we equate religion to spirituality. But this is not true. No one is born with a religion. Religion is acquired through circumstances like the birthplace, events, etc. If any religion was the sure pathway to God, a God of Justice would have made that religion available everywhere at every time, so that no one may be disadvantaged because he was born in North Korea, or in Tibet. Failure to see any religion available everywhere at every time since humanity exists, simply means either God is not righteous, or Religion is inconsequential to salvation. Now, if you are a muslim and you sow tomato, other things being constant, you shall reap tomatoes in multiple. If you are an atheist and you sow the very same tomato, the earth will not refuse to produce tomatoes, because you are an atheist. You will reap the very same tomatoes albeit in multiples. This simple analogy shows that what matters is not how we label ourselves, but how we conform to the laws of God - here the Law of sowing and reaping, sometimes called Karma, or the universal Law of reciprocity, etc. Therefore everyone should seek the Truth with his heart. our heart contains the only thing that is necessary to true spirituality. It is an antennae sometimes called intuition, which helps us identify the Truth, the laws of God, what is true noble and beneficial to our spiritual development, irrespective of whether it is a christian, buddhist or muslim doctrine. Therefore examine everything in your heart and accept no teaching because it is written in a holy book, or preached by a famous pastor, but because your heart agrees with it and it is consistent with Justice and Love. Above all, love your neighbor and all creation as (and possibly more than) yourself. As you do that, you will begin your spiritual ascent, and revelations/teachings from the beyond will come to you, with ou without human intervention. Like they say, when the student is ready, the Teacher comes. If you have questions, feel free to ask them to me or people like mnwankwo, justcool, benodic, bigfrancis21, or any other. They will offer their perceptions and leave you free to examine them with you heart/intuition. Cheers. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 2:06pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
LoJ:Ok thanx. I know benodic is an eckist and mnwanko I think is a grail messenger so I guess your religious orientation is in that general direction ![]() |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
Annunaki:I don't know how people label themselves, neither do I pay attention to it. I however as a gift have the abiility to perceive the intensity of light and love that flows from the writings/ministration of people. I know nothing about "eckist". However I know the grail message, and yes it is an inspired message proclaimed by a Truth bringer. Thank you for your time taking. Receive my noblest thoughts. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by orisa37: 3:36pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
Those doing so are religious confusionists. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by analice107: 4:10pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
CoolUsername:We know that Jesus is a descendant of Abraham by the genealogy. So if the Muslims claim that Muhammed is a descendant of Abraham, we need his genealogy. Enough with the assumptions and lies. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by adekhingz(op): 5:27pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
CHRISTIANS DON'T WORSHIP SAME GOOD WITH MUSLIMS "God (Allah) is one. the self sufficient. he begot none neither was he begotten. and there is none likened unto him". (Quran 112 vs 1-4). we Muslims worship the one who bears this attributes. Christians worship a lesser God(Jesus). "the father is greater than i"( John 14 vs 28). Muslims totally disbelief in Trinity: " and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a 'Trinity'—stop, is better for you... Q 5:116). in essence, we worship a different God and that is the reason you have term Islam evil and smeared rubbish on its image. I'm not expecting anything different from Christians criticism as we see each other as competitors... THIS IS NOT THE BEGINNING OF THIS assault by our Christians brother, and believe me, this won't be the End!! |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Annunaki(m): 5:47pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
^^^ You seem to have forgotten mohamed started the assault and we are only trying to protect ourselves from evil. You may wish read quoran 9:29-30 and quoran 8:39 if you are in doubt of my statements. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by CoolUsername: 6:31pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
analice107:I'm not trying to start something here. But for the mere fact that Muslim tradition claims this, it is enough to say that they worship the Jewish god. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by analice107: 6:50pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Now that I know you are a dude. Let me call you sweetheart. They claim. Just like they claim a lot of things that are not and can't be proven. Pls tell them to post the genealogy of Muhammed. Show a passage of Koran where the being that almost killed Muhammed introduced himself as Gabriel. They are lying to themselves and want to people to believe their lies. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by adekhingz(op): 9:13pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
TO SEE PICTORIAL GENEALOGY OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD LINKING HIM AND JESUS TO ABRAHAM SEE----- https://majesticislam.files./2011/07/family-tree-of-prophets.jpg |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by sandygechy(f): 9:40pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
Ur God (Allah) is different from my God (Jesus).Both cannot be used interchangeably. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Nobody: 11:00pm On Feb 04, 2016 |
sandygechy:To be fair , the one that you call God, entered this world through a vagina , sustained though umbilical cord , ate food , used a toilet , & didn't know things ie. Judgment day , fig tree , who touched him in a crowd etc. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by sandygechy(f): 1:09am On Feb 17, 2016 |
I refuse to laugh at ur stupidity! I refuse to serve a blood thirsty god who needs mortals to fight for him because he's too weak to fight for himself! Now,run along.... To be fair , the one that you call God, entered this world through a vagina , sustained though umbilical cord , ate food , used a toilet , & didn't know things ie. Judgment day , fig tree , who touched him in a crowd etc. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by facheux: 1:12am On Feb 17, 2016 |
sandygechy:Did your God get circumsized? |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by sandygechy(f): 1:21am On Feb 17, 2016 |
Jesus is the way,the Truth and Life! There is no other way.Repent and be saved from HELLFIRE!!! facheux: |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by facheux: 1:26am On Feb 17, 2016 |
sandygechy:The very fact that Jesus pbuh was given birth, and came out as little helpless small baby is enough to refute the claim that Jesus pbuh is God. It is utter blasphemy to claim that God came out of a women like all people, it is utter blasphemy to claim God came out crying and screaming and being helpless and weak. Such nonsense is insulting to God; this itself is enough to prove Jesus pbuh is not God. How can you claim that God came out of a woman? Are you mad? Are you insane? How can you insult God in such a manner, you Christians should be ashamed of yourselves for ascribing such rubbish to God. |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by sandygechy(f): 1:57pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
Jesus Christ had to be born so dat he can come in human nature and shed his blood on d cross so dat mankind can be saved.Without the shedding of blood,there is no remission of sins. You Muslims are actually very crazy!!! I find it ridiculous dat u claim to fight for a DEAD god dat is so weak and helpless to fight for himself! Why is it dat everything EVIL is associated with Islam U can only give wat u have.Jesus Christ is Lord! Repent or u perish!!! facheux: |
| Re: Abuse Of "Allah" By The Christians by Keenysbojan(m): 4:11pm On Feb 20, 2016 |
Bro the direct Arabic name for God is not Allah but Ilah |
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And is it possible God will send a messenger that will start a religion with violence, sustain and spread it with violence. The teaching left in his so called holy book remains the source/cause of misery for millions over the centuries since the birth of islam.