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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 3:31pm On Feb 12, 2016
martineinstein:
Ooni is too young to start unnecessary controversy...the monarch that almost colonized almost the entire southern Nigeria(from Lagos to kogi to bayelsa) and part of middle belt is now under u?.. If not for British punitive expedition of 1896,ooni would have been conquered by oba of Benin....
many first class monarchs are under oba of Benin,especially oba of Lagos,obi of onitsha,asagba of asaba,olu of Warri,dein of agbo etc. Even the traditional name of Lagos,'eko' is a bini word....ooni should go and rest joor

Oba agha t'okpe e!....ise!


excuse me. . during the time of Benin Empire, the omo n'oba n'edo was always buried in Ile-Ife. ..
so Ife was considered the origin of the omo n'oba n'edo and there's no way Bini could attack Ife, other yoruba groups wouldn't even allow it
Bini is a Yoruba word. ..so what's the issue over Eko whose Oba is nothing but a figure head
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Aizenosa(m): 3:35pm On Feb 12, 2016
http://exceptionngr..in/2008/08/historical-analogy-of-binis.html

Please read this Bini kingdom story I believe it answers all the questions.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 3:43pm On Feb 12, 2016
einsteine:
The Benin Empire was so great that when the people of Dahomey wanted to choose a new name for their country, they didn't choose Oyo, or Ife, they choose Benin.

grin grin grin


u sure are deluded and loving it cheesy
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 3:48pm On Feb 12, 2016
Ubenedictus:
d kings are connected by blood but binis are not yorubas..

But that's what Alake and Ooni are saying. . the ignorant esogban..a common chief is now saying nonsense


if Oba erediuwa is still alive he should say it himself that he was no connection with the house of Oduduwa
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 3:51pm On Feb 12, 2016
Ubenedictus:
how come oba akiolu clearly states that his stool originated from bini?

u Bini folks really have big issues. . why do you feel so threatened by Yorubas?

so Oba of Lagos stool is from Bini. ..
Oba of Bini stool is from Ife. ..there!


and btw the current Oba of Lagos dynasty (Ologun Kutere dynasty) is nt Bini but Ijesa. ..

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 4:00pm On Feb 12, 2016
chinaze4real:
Abeg yorubas want to colonise benin grin foolishness personified cool

yoruba have already colonized Bini long ago

by Bini veneration of yoruba deities, Bini ruled by a yoruba son
even oro festival is held in Bini

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by uncleade(m): 4:15pm On Feb 12, 2016
Ubenedictus:
tthis is a lie my dear, no oba of bini goes for approval in ife.
Please go ask your great grandma and great grandpa to confirm this.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by martineinstein(m): 4:22pm On Feb 12, 2016
macof:



excuse me. . during the time of Benin Empire, the omo n'oba n'edo was always buried in Ile-Ife. ..
so Ife was considered the origin of the omo n'oba n'edo and there's no way Bini could attack Ife, other yoruba groups wouldn't even allow it
Bini is a Yoruba word. ..so what's the issue over Eko whose Oba is nothing but a figure head
guessed u were there when oba was buried in ife..

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 4:42pm On Feb 12, 2016
martineinstein:
guessed u were there when oba was buried in ife..

If this is ur defense; it's silly. . cus we might as well throw history out the window cus we were not there
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by gentleheart1(f): 5:00pm On Feb 12, 2016
macof:



excuse me. . during the time of Benin Empire, the omo n'oba n'edo was always buried in Ile-Ife. ..
so Ife was considered the origin of the omo n'oba n'edo and there's no way Bini could attack Ife, other yoruba groups wouldn't even allow it
Bini is a Yoruba word. ..so what's the issue over Eko whose Oba is nothing but a figure head

What's your evidence? Please don't write what you don't know, enough of all this thrash.
Bini is not a Yoruba word point of correction
Binis aren't interested your dirty tribe.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by martineinstein(m): 5:02pm On Feb 12, 2016
macof:


If this is ur defense; it's silly. . cus we might as well throw history out the window cus we were not there
do u have evidence?.... Convince me. Same myth that oduduwa fell from heaven follows your assertions
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by kingsmok(m): 5:10pm On Feb 12, 2016
ritababe:

It was the Benin People that gave the name Eko, which means "Camp" in Bini language. The Benin people usually settled here in Lagos. It was on one of those trips that they met Ile-Ife fishermen on the coast of Eko and they fought and defeated the Ile-Ife fishermen and few Benin people settled in Eko and few scattered population of Ile-Ife people always settled for fishing. When the Portugese came for exploration, the named Eko, which in Bini means camp, they name it Lagos, which means "Lake" in Portugese. You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from? The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where did Oduduwa come from? Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom? Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his ancestral throne cc. Lstar4real oloyede252 pulsa
ahhhh d story was a great one, are u from benin
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by gentleheart1(f): 5:13pm On Feb 12, 2016
martineinstein:
guessed u were there when oba was buried in ife..

it's really irritating reading all these on nairaland from the Yorubas.
imagine the effontrey and nonsense they are writing here.

As far as am concerned the Yorubas has a confused a history and so they shouldn't claim what they are not.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by martineinstein(m): 5:14pm On Feb 12, 2016
gentleheart1:


it's really irritating reading all these on nairaland from the Yorubas.
imagine the effontrey and nonsense they are writing here.

As far as am concerned the Yorubas has a confused a history and so they shouldn't claim what they are not.
AM not Yoruba and can never be
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by diadem10: 5:30pm On Feb 12, 2016
ritababe:

am not Benin
Obviously one of the landlocked people in the SE that has no ancestral history! LOL!
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by diadem10: 5:38pm On Feb 12, 2016
ritababe:


It was the Benin People that gave the name Eko, which means "Camp" in
Bini language. The Benin people usually settled here in Lagos. It was
on one of those trips that they met Ile-Ife fishermen on the coast of
Eko and they fought and defeated the Ile-Ife fishermen and few Benin
people settled in Eko and few scattered population of Ile-Ife people
always settled for fishing.
When the Portugese came for exploration, the named Eko, which in Bini
means camp, they name it Lagos, which means "Lake" in Portugese.
You need to know the fact. Which is Oduduwa wasnt born in ile ife. He
migrated from somewhere. So the question is where did he migrate from?
The yoruba kingdom had existed before Oduduwa settled there. So where
did Oduduwa come from?
Why did he send his son to rule over Benin kingdom?
Try and see the connection and analogy in this. TO be king you must be
royalty by blood line. Hence he sent his son to Benin to rule over his
ancestral throne
cc.
Lstar4real
oloyede252
pulsa
LOL!
See the ibotic version of history! Can't believe people with no history has the effrontery to engage others that aint their mate!
Why would bini give a camp Yoruba name in the first place? Ibo and dullness!
The truth is the Awori and ijebu gave a little part of Lagos island to the Bini for their camping, which was named Eko by the (Awori & Ijebu)!
You're obviously a clown!
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by rhozaay(m): 5:59pm On Feb 12, 2016
not in the caliber of Oba of Benin na
columbus007:
bros he's an oba,have some chill undecided

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by gentleheart1(f): 6:12pm On Feb 12, 2016
uncleade:

Dirty but not a race of prostitutes. it's only among bini that u see a mother sends out her own daughter to prositute.infact in Burkina faso where i live, 90% of Ashwo girls are binis. but the only problem is that they always identify themselves as yorubas or igbos.and as we all knows that outside Nigeria, only hausa, yorubas and igbos are recognized. nobody knows about any cockroaches called edo or ibini or whatever they call themselves.

hmmmm.... You are wrong Yoruba ladies are the biggest prostitutes in Nigeria. I will never advice my enemy to marry a Yoruba lady, they sleep with different men even when married or engaged. I have also witnessed a Yoruba woman having an affair with her duaghter's husband. that's the biggest form of prostitution.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by gentleheart1(f): 6:14pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

LOL!
See the ibotic version of history! Can't believe people with no history has the effrontery to engage others that aint their mate!
Why would bini give a camp Yoruba name in the first place? Ibo and dullness!
The truth is the Awori and ijebu gave a little part of Lagos island to the Bini for their camping, which was named Eko by the (Awori & Ijebu)!
You're obviously a clown!

You are the clown here, you don't even know your history that's why people will never take you Yorubas serious. Your history is backward.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by diadem10: 6:24pm On Feb 12, 2016
gentleheart1:


You are the clown here, you don't even know your history that's why people will never take you Yorubas serious. Your history is backward.
An. Ibo man having a discourse with me on history? Geez! I don suffer!
I ask again why would bini gives an area a Yoruba name if not the indigenous people of the said land that named it?
Let this sink into your ibo head that the whole Lagos wasn't named Eko! Only the island given to the bini for camping was named eko and the said name was given by the aborigenes (the Awori)!
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by mrDennis(m): 6:50pm On Feb 12, 2016
Am a proud bini man and I make bold to say I CONCUR ! If not for the fact that it was an abomination for a non-Benin man to speak bini back in the old days by now Benin would be a 'major' language second only to Hausa .

People who do not know facts don't know the IBO race/kingdom started after *EBO* meaning yellow man a prince of Benin kingdom was banished accross the Niger and the place was called *ONITSE* meaning "it's enough". Today it is called onitsha . And the whites who couldn't understand bini called them IBO (he-bo)

Ile ife learnt its bronze casting from Benin also it's crafts that's a fact , also bini kingdom was a a very diplomatic kingdom and thus we had lots of ambassaodors , thus the oranmiyan story

Truth be told this is a clarion call to all binis around the world to start putting pressure on FG to revert to regional system let's take ondo , delta, bayelsa and anambra territories back!

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by Malawian(m): 7:45pm On Feb 12, 2016
yoruba people have not told us why on earth bini people will travel to ife to look for a king for themselves despite the eons of renowned royalty.

on the other hand, yoruba still havn't told us any prior kinds they had before oduduwa.

this story is very clear.

but yoruba will insist that someone turned into a river, or that odudwa came down from heaven without parachaute with a chicken and amala on both hands, and started the first owambe known to man.

odiegwu.

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 7:58pm On Feb 12, 2016
gentleheart1:


What's your evidence? Please don't write what you don't know, enough of all this thrash.
Bini is not a Yoruba word point of correction
Binis aren't interested your dirty tribe.

first are you Bini? then I'll show u evidence



otherwise go tell us ur people's history if they got any
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 8:09pm On Feb 12, 2016
martineinstein:
do u have evidence?.... Convince me. Same myth that oduduwa fell from heaven follows your assertions


You really nt bright. nd I'm tired of explaining yoruba traditions to fools who have no traditions of theirs


in Yoruba society. .. we tell two forms exist to the tales - history nd mythology. ..if u are ignorant or jst plain dumb enough to take mythology for history bad for u

there's Oduduwa, the spirit being who came from Orun to reform the flooded earth
and there's Oduduwa, the progenitor of Yorubas Obas. .and the Oba at Bini

pls get some sense nd stop listening to beer parlor history chat

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Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by martineinstein(m): 8:17pm On Feb 12, 2016
macof:



You really nt bright. nd I'm tired of explaining yoruba traditions to fools who have no traditions of theirs


in Yoruba society. .. we tell two forms exist to the tales - history nd mythology. ..if u are ignorant or jst plain dumb enough to take mythology for history bad for u

there's Oduduwa, the spirit being who came from Orun to reform the flooded earth
and there's Oduduwa, the progenitor of Yorubas Obas. .and the Oba at Bini

pls get some sense nd stop listening to beer parlor history chat
despite your level of education, u still believe in this myth/folklore.... Do many educated illiterates occupy the entity called Nigeria. The woman that sell bean cake,"iya alakara" is on same parity with u in terms of civilization
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 8:29pm On Feb 12, 2016
Malawian:
yoruba people have not told us why on earth bini people will travel to ife to look for a king for themselves despite the eons of renowned royalty.

on the other hand, yoruba still havn't told us any prior kinds they had before oduduwa.

this story is very clear.

but yoruba will insist that someone turned into a river, or that odudwa came down from heaven without parachaute with a chicken and amala on both hands, and started the first owambe known to man.

odiegwu.

Why can't Bini accept an Ife royal, they were in time of crisis? btw not all Bini accepted Oranmiyan or his son. ..till today Ogiamien is the real King of Bini, Oba only buys his right during every coronation...let any Bini deny this. ..I dare u


that's when people mix mythology with history. ..talk to people who can tell the difference
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 8:32pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

LOL!
See the ibotic version of history! Can't believe people with no history has the effrontery to engage others that aint their mate!
Why would bini give a camp Yoruba name in the first place? Ibo and dullness!
The truth is the Awori and ijebu gave a little part of Lagos island to the Bini for their camping, which was named Eko by the (Awori & Ijebu)!
You're obviously a clown!

did I quote you? No
did I mention you? No
so why would you mention and insult me. if u want to prove a point must u insult me?
wen u grow up then quote let's argue for now u are too young
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 8:33pm On Feb 12, 2016
KingRex1:
1630 seriously? Are u some kinda historian or librarian?

lol
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by ritababe(f): 8:34pm On Feb 12, 2016
kingsmok:
ahhhh d story was a great one, are u from benin

no
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by macof(m): 8:36pm On Feb 12, 2016
mrDennis:
Am a proud bini man and I make bold to say I CONCUR ! If not for the fact that it was an abomination for a non-Benin man to speak bini back in the old days by now Benin would be a 'major' language second only to Hausa .

People who do not know facts don't know the IBO race/kingdom started after *EBO* meaning yellow man a prince of Benin kingdom was banished accross the Niger and the place was called *ONITSE* meaning "it's enough". Today it is called onitsha . And the whites who couldn't understand bini called them IBO (he-bo)

Ile ife learnt its bronze casting from Benin also it's crafts that's a fact , also bini kingdom was a a very diplomatic kingdom and thus we had lots of ambassaodors , thus the oranmiyan story

Truth be told this is a clarion call to all binis around the world to start putting pressure on FG to revert to regional system let's take ondo , delta, bayelsa and anambra territories back!



I hope you aren't too blind and deluded to accept dat Benin Empire was not larger than Oyo state, Nigeria
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by gentleheart1(f): 8:41pm On Feb 12, 2016
diadem10:

An. Ibo man having a discourse with me on history? Geez! I don suffer!
I ask again why would bini gives an area a Yoruba name if not the indigenous people of the said land that named it?
Let this sink into your ibo head that the whole Lagos wasn't named Eko! Only the island given to the bini for camping was named eko and the said name was given by the aborigenes (the Awori)!

Shush don't be a fool, you are very daft.
Now let this sink into your head slowpoke,you smellos where under the bini kingdom not like I care but you people are very stupid for twisting history and comparing your politically installed Obas to the great Oba of Benin.

Fyi I am not igbo dimwit.
Re: Benin Kingdom In Edo Is Yoruba Territory — Ooni Of Ife, Adeyeye Ogunwusi by gentleheart1(f): 8:49pm On Feb 12, 2016
macof:


Why can't Bini accept an Ife royal, they were in time of crisis? btw not all Bini accepted Oranmiyan or his son. ..till today Ogiamien is the real King of Bini, Oba only buys his right during every coronation...let any Bini deny this. ..I dare u


that's when people mix mythology with history. ..talk to people who can tell the difference











have been reading your comments and I can see you rely on Yoruba version of Benin kingdom, I know your likes and I have met some of your historians who can't even defend some of the jargons they teach students.

I will rather stick to my history that has been consistent than accept your crappy upside down history.

Yoruba history is trash and inconsistent, so whatever you write here can never convince me because with a plate of ewedu and Amala you people can twist and sell your history.

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