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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Dorobuccii(f): 4:18am On Feb 15, 2016

inkon:
I believe I've answered your question. Now let me ask you: what exactly do women want? Are you comfortable with a world where women lead the homes? Forget this equality bulllahit. It can never work that way. One must take instructions from the other. Be sincere in answering my question.

What do women want you ask?
Women want equality. Now I want you to get this right.....There is a difference between equality and order. All children are equal but there's the first child and last child. A better example is in the society, 'every man' may be equal but we have the president and other civil servants.
Equality means that we are entitled to the same basic rights. It means we get same pay for the same work and same treatment.
Gender inequality is very similar to racism.
So if we are calling for an end to racism then we should also be calling for an end to gender discrimination and inequality. I don't understand why that is so difficult for the society to wrap its head around.

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 7:07am On Feb 15, 2016

asuustrike2009:
Eve did not sleep with the serpent in the first place but was only lured to disobey God's command on eating the forbidden fruit.

which fruit was that? Apple? Pineapple? Mango? Or what?

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 7:41am On Feb 15, 2016*

Dorobuccii:
What do women want you ask?
Women want equality. Now I want you to get this right.....There is a difference between equality and order. All children are equal but there's the first child and last child. A better example is in the society, 'every man' may be equal but we have the president and other civil servants.
Equality means that we are entitled to the same basic rights. It means we get same pay for the same work and same treatment.
Gender inequality is very similar to racism.
So if we are calling for an end to racism then we should also be calling for an end to gender discrimination and inequality. I don't understand why that is so difficult for the society to wrap its head around.

hahahahahaha you are very funny, well fantasy is good but reality is the main thing. There is no equality anzwhere in this whole world! None, the food chain? Govt hierachy? The family? No goddamned place unless one choose to live in wonderland. Equality can only happen in the spiritual realm but come to think of it how many female angels have beeen mentioned in the bible fighting in wars against satan or soömething? See as bad as you hate it EQUALITY CAN NEVER EVER BE ACHIEVED because of so many reasons one being that God never created us to be that way. Sorry to burst your bubble, how many times have you called a male friend, bro, cousin or someone else to help you do something be it carrying a heavy load or whatever maybe subliminally because you felt like a male is cut out for the task and not a female? Be honest to yourself. Why do females expect their man to protect them in certain situations? They soon everyone learns their place and makes the best out of it the better kife would be for them. Feminism is crap bc same girl ranting about equality would be the one expecting her man to tend to somethings she considers too hard or heavy or somewhat. Yesterday was val right? How would you feel if your man didn't come to pick you up and ensure he gives you a splendid time? If equality is possible why didn't pick him up and do the spending and drive him home later? Girls please. As for respect, who likes to be disrespected? Let alone by someone you love? Thats why most ladies wonder why their man or hubb don't notice or love them like he use to, maybe you don't respect him like you uuse to too. Give respect to those who earned it and never chip at it.
Respect is important to us for many reasons, for some guys they need it to feel good or for validation of how well cordinated they are or for the fact that they didnt disrespect you you ought not to disrespect them or for some guys respect is like the foundation of their personality (self respect) so why would a mofo try to mess with their foundation? and more.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 7:49am On Feb 15, 2016

If equality cannot be achieved between men then can any smart feminist here tell me how it can be achieved between the two genders? I did love to know.
Pls dont use the "western" world as example bc most are emasculation.

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by sinequanon: 9:42am On Feb 15, 2016

Dorobuccii:
A true feminist's first answer is not to blame men. I mean feminism is not a woman's matter alone, there are lots of men that are also feminist. Most of the leaders of developed countries are feminists.
Feminists blame the patriarchal system operating in most part of the world that tends to encourage inequality between sexes.

If feminism were about everyone, it would be called humanism.

Pussified men who think it is the way to get a woman, or politicians who want the female vote, claim to be feminists.

On the other hand, insecure men want submission from women.

Feminism destroys women and breeds weak men and weak women, just as chauvinism does.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by lezz(m): 9:55am On Feb 15, 2016

Dorobuccii:
What do women want you ask?
Women want equality. Now I want you to get this right.....There is a difference between equality and order. All children are equal but there's the first child and last child. A better example is in the society, 'every man' may be equal but we have the president and other civil servants.
Equality means that we are entitled to the same basic rights. It means we get same pay for the same work and same treatment.
Gender inequality is very similar to racism.
So if we are calling for an end to racism then we should also be calling for an end to gender discrimination and inequality. I don't understand why that is so difficult for the society to wrap its head around.

The struggle for gender equality has been fought and won. Women have got equal access to education, better chances at employment and have equal representation in the professions of their choosing. And equal pay in Nigeria as well.

What is today termed equality is a feminist euphemism for usurpation and suppression of not only men but women as well. I'm not aware of any law or statute in Nigeria that denies women right of participation or pursuit of any dream or profession or entrepreneurship.

What we have are women clamouring for the top hierarchy of firms, government agencies and multinational companies, their only qualification being that they are women. They don't show the merit card.

If women want true equality then they should clamour for equal representation in the armed forces, fire service, and other low-paying and risky jobs men equally dominate.

But the truth is women have equal right to decision-making and choice of career path and they will always be true to their evolutionary disposition-- majority will pick the softer, less strenous professions, mainly humanities.

Equality is a veiled call for social revolution.

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by inkon: 10:14am On Feb 15, 2016

Dorobuccii:
What do women want you ask?
Women want equality. Now I want you to get this right.....There is a difference between equality and order. All children are equal but there's the first child and last child. A better example is in the society, 'every man' may be equal but we have the president and other civil servants.
Equality means that we are entitled to the same basic rights. It means we get same pay for the same work and same treatment.
Gender inequality is very similar to racism.
So if we are calling for an end to racism then we should also be calling for an end to gender discrimination and inequality. I don't understand why that is so difficult for the society to wrap its head around.

Equality you want, equality you have gotten.

In many countries of the world today, women are presidents. In our own Nigeria, we have women ministers, senators, directors of public institutions and all what. The said women get equal pay with men who occupy similar positions. I don't know of any such discrepancy of getting lower pay when you offer the same service.

My question was actually within the context of the home, on the same basis the OP had asked her own. She implied that respect isn't necessary in a home. And that men who ask for it are ego/pride laden.

If there is a failure in a home, the man will be blamed and so it is if a country fails, people blame the president.

I hear you say, the President is equal to everybody. That is another area I disagree with you. But on a second thought, if that is what you mean by equality, I think I have no problem with your opinion.

Be it as it may, my dear, human race is towering beyond the effects of jungle era but what baffles me is why people will ignore facts that stare them in the face by embracing baseless theories.

If you are of voting age, i suppose you are, you are most likely to have participated in placing an aura of great diadem on the president and call him number one citizen. That diadem symbolises task and again, honour.

We are expected, as good citizens, to put ourselves under the abasement of the law as driven by the president who can choose to be a blessing to the people or a curse. In the same manner, "a normal woman" is expected to submit to the principles of the home as driven by the husband.

Why do people stand up to honour the entrance of the president at any given time? Much is given to him, much is expected of him. His feeding, security, medication, accommodation are Paramount. So what is all these equality bruhaha?

If he hurts you, you sue him right? Fine, that is based on principles of human right and not equality.

I have a problem with this equality sermon. People are not equal. The ever wise Almighty didn't make it so. He gives to some people what he will not give to others. Why do we have five fingers given to one hand, yet none looks like the other?

On the gender perspective, it takes a clearer definition. The chemistry of a man is significantly different from that of a woman. They neither share exactly the same physical features nor mental capabilities. The man is rational, the woman is emotional. The man has visual attraction, the woman has contact stimulation and that is compatibility.

Man and woman are like the head and the neck. One cannot survive without the other. The head does the work, but not without the neck supporting it.

The problem in many homes today is that, the neck no longer wants to be seen as a supporter. It wants to become another head on the same body.

I insist on my opinion that any home bound to succeed must have a leader.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 10:35am On Feb 15, 2016

icedbeatz:
which fruit was that? Apple? Pineapple? Mango? Or what?

None of them. The Bible didn't specify which of the fruits

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Lovelynature(m): 11:16am On Feb 15, 2016

Respect is earned and not commanded.

Respect is the number one spec I look for in a woman. I value and love a woman that has respect so much, and would as well respect her back.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by FTBOY: 5:19pm On Feb 15, 2016

netizenbuzz:
What have I said, what is this one saying? This is not a feminist rant so please look for somewhere else to cry. This is not the place. Virtues in women, virtues in women. Your stupid rant clearly shows the type of virtues you have as a man

someone gave you a hard pill of truth and fact that you found hard to swallow, but instead of coming back with a better argument to uphold your opinion you resorted to insulting him. after all, you created this thread to share opinions, didn't you?...SMH! undecided

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by nickydof(m): 6:35pm On Feb 15, 2016

Firstly, Gender equality is officially the most controversial concept ever known to man.

Not all men mind being disrespected. Same applies to the female folks!

Like someone said, there is abundant supply of all kinds of people. If you want to be respected, go for those who can offer it. If you don't mind being disrespected, there is a massive pool of disrespectful girls. Bend down select! But always remember that you attract your kind!

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by poik(m): 7:08pm On Feb 15, 2016

netizenbuzz:
Oga, it is clearly stated in Ephesians 5:21, it is not my opinion. Where did I say a man should stop being the head? Read my article again please. You say love? Love comes with humility as Christ continually showed. Why don't you advocate that instead? Jesus was and is still the most disrespected man that ever liveth, yet he never stopped loving us. Love should cover all things including disrespect but it is the other way round with you. You respect me, I show you love. You say respect isn't reciprocal? Well, we can say the same about love then. By your logic, if I am your wife, I don't have to love you since I'm only asked to respect you right? Does that even make sense to you? At the end of the day, you didn't answer my question, you only came out extremely defensive. I can't say I'm surprised. Before we say ah, you people shout westernization but alas, you are online because of the so called westernization. Why pick only what suits you? How selfish. God also cursed man that he would till the ground to eat but woe betide a woman that wants a man who can provide. Gold digger alert. Stop speaking from the two sides of your mouth uncle. You cannot eat your cake and have it.

I am sorry ma, but the submission you quoted in Ephesians 5.21 was not talking about husband and wife submission. Read the preceding verses. It is talking about the general body of believers.
2. Let's look at it this way. We all know without being told that love is an all encompassing word, but there is a reason it was used there. Besides, nowhere does it say that a man should send his wife away because she disrespected him. The only criteria for separation is fornication. Instead, she will be saved in childbearing if she respects him. You see why its so important?

3. Your take on my citation of westernization is rather funny, but you know its true. Why is it that its the negatives that will hold attraction for people all the time?
Finally, I answered your question as Scripturally as my level of Holy Ghost has taught me. Not that I expect it to go down well though with you. You are not the first to disagree. To most women, the definition of selfish is one who will not having your way as you want it. How manipulative. That's why man fell in the first place. Through the woman.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by poik(m): 7:24pm On Feb 15, 2016

asuustrike2009:
Eve did not sleep with the serpent in the first place but was only lured to disobey God's command on eating the forbidden fruit.

The question is, what is the forbidden fruit? What kind of fruit do u eat and realize you are naked? Certainly not apricots or mangoes.
Again, God pronounced curse on the woman's reproductive because of eating the forbidden fruit. If it were the mouth, I believe the mouth would have been the first recipient of the curse, but God went for the reproductives, from childbearing to menstruation and all that paraphernalia.
Cain was the first fruit of that union. 1 John 3.12 clearly states that Cain was born of the evil one. The two seeds in Eve were of different fathers. The phenomenon is called superfetation.
The serpent got there first and she served the knowledge to her husband. That's why that Genesis Scripture said when she saw that it was pleasant to the eyes and one that could make one wise, she ate and gave to her husband to taste too.
So...the act was entirely sexual and not literal eating.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 9:46pm On Feb 15, 2016

poik:
The question is, what is the forbidden fruit? What kind of fruit do u eat and realize you are naked? Certainly not apricots or mangoes.
Again, God pronounced curse on the woman's reproductive because of eating the forbidden fruit. If it were the mouth, I believe the mouth would have been the first recipient of the curse, but God went for the reproductives, from childbearing to menstruation and all that paraphernalia.
Cain was the first fruit of that union. 1 John 3.12 clearly states that Cain was born of the evil one. The two seeds in Eve were of different fathers. The phenomenon is called superfetation.
The serpent got there first and she served the knowledge to her husband. That's why that Genesis Scripture said when she saw that it was pleasant to the eyes and one that could make one wise, she ate and gave to her husband to taste too.
So...the act was entirely sexual and not literal eating.

Like seriously! So if she slept with the serpent why didn't she gave birth to serpent? How come animals have sex to reproduce Or where they part of the forbidden fruit too?

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by poik(m): 10:04pm On Feb 15, 2016

asuustrike2009:
Like seriously! So if she slept with the serpent why didn't she gave birth to serpent? How come animals have sex to reproduce Or where they part of the forbidden fruit too?

Like seriously, let me tell you why. Remember when God cursed the serpent in Genesis 3. He said, On your belly shall you crawl. it means the serpent was hitherto an upright creature, having the bodily characteristics of a man and being actually able to copulate, but with beastly features. Have you ever wondered where the thought of killing Abel came upon Cain from, if he was truly the son of Adam, made in God's express image? Dont forget that was the first murder committed. where did that come from?

The answer is the fact that both the serpent and Adam had Eve, producing Cain and Abel. Like i said, it is superfetation, and a lot of cases of such have been repeated in history to truly prove the Bible right. The serpent's seed came out as Cain, and so did Adam's: Abel.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 10:39am On Feb 16, 2016

FTBOY:
someone gave you a hard pill of truth and fact that you found hard to swallow, but instead of coming back with a better argument to uphold your opinion you resorted to insulting him. after all, you created this thread to share opinions, didn't you?...SMH!

abeg gerrararhere mehn.....this thread is clearly not for you. You can cry from now till eternity! Sorry to bruise your fragile ego with what you called an insult. I did not ask for opinions please, I asked for reasons tongue

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by FTBOY: 11:23am On Feb 16, 2016

netizenbuzz:
abeg gerrararhere mehn.....this thread is clearly not for you. You can cry from now till eternity! Sorry to bruise your fragile ego with what you called an insult. I did not ask for opinions please, I asked for reasons

yeah, the ego might be fragile but the dick is strong. come testify...i'm sure you'll love it wink

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Joy1706(f): 12:36pm On Feb 16, 2016

poik:
Like seriously, let me tell you why. Remember when God cursed the serpent in Genesis 3. He said, On your belly shall you crawl. it means the serpent was hitherto an upright creature, having the bodily characteristics of a man and being actually able to copulate, but with beastly features. Have you ever wondered where the thought of killing Abel came upon Cain from, if he was truly the son of Adam, made in God's express image? Dont forget that was the first murder committed. where did that come from?

The answer is the fact that both the serpent and Adam had Eve, producing Cain and Abel. Like i said, it is superfetation, and a lot of cases of such have been repeated in history to truly prove the Bible right. The serpent's seed came out as Cain, and so did Adam's: Abel.

So going by your logic Adam slept with the serpent too? Cos he also ate of the forbidden fruit

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by poik(m): 1:09pm On Feb 16, 2016

Joy1706:
So going by your logic Adam slept with the serpent too? Cos he also ate of the forbidden fruit

The forbidden fruit was clandestine sex, and bestiality. The devil went ahead of Adam and had his wife. Eve on her part, allowed herself to be seduced. Adam's complicity was joining his wife to eat the same fruit instead of cudgeling her. How much are u paying for this lecture sef

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by scribble: 1:34pm On Feb 16, 2016

netizenbuzz:
You have not answered my question. And you seem to believe only a woman needs to be submissive. Why is respect so important to you as a person? Is it because you feel it is a form of pay back for your love and support? But then women also love and support their men, so why exactly is it important to you?

Men are submitting to the woman when they agree to love her and only her for ever and ever. I'm sure you'd like to say it's vice versa with women as you're quite the advocate.

But a man has more opportunity to be with more than one woman and never be tied down for any period of time. Paternity is way easier than maternity. A man can throw money at all his responsibilities and some women are very cool with it. More than those that are not. Ask OBO. Ask Flavour. Ask Tubaba. Ask Okoya. Ask Around.

So when a man decides to show a woman love and forsake all of his potential fringe benefits, he wants a woman to show him the respect he deserves.

Why did Esther become queen? Was it not because Vashti showed disrespect? There are thousands of Esther's walking around and sadly millions of Vashti.
The contentious women.

In this free society, there's nothing wrong if a woman wants to wear the pants in a relationship but she shouldn't cry foul anyhow. after all she is the one suited up, playing a man's game.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by chigoizie7(m): 1:54pm On Feb 16, 2016

The same way, being pampered, loved and cared for is important to you.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by chigoizie7(m): 1:58pm On Feb 16, 2016

netizenbuzz:
abeg gerrararhere mehn.....this thread is clearly not for you. You can cry from now till eternity! Sorry to bruise your fragile ego with what you called an insult. I did not ask for opinions please, I asked for reasons

The very same reason God created your dad, gave him a d!ck and den gave your mum a pu!ssy.

But, he didn't, so, only God knows d reason, because we all grew up placing importance to respect,no one thought us that, it is inbuilt. And we don't know d reason.

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 2:02pm On Feb 16, 2016

Just a note; Submission and respect are totally not the same thing.

I wouldn't want a man to demand any kind of respect from me merely because he is a man. That's not a good enough reason.

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Adonis3: 10:38pm On Feb 19, 2016

Dorobuccii:
This

it's this kind of mentality that will cause some guys to go out and rape girls in a bid to forcefully gain their submission. it's this same belief that will allow husbands to beat and maltreat their wives and you still hear some people asking the woman to endure.

lol

I couldn't ignore this

So men rape girls to gain their submission

Wow, I didn't know that

Even the women who rape men also do so to gain submission

Issokay

#Adonis3HasSopken

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by firstking01(m): 10:44pm On Feb 19, 2016

Op, you 've said everything in ur thread na, wetin you want make i talk again lipsrsealed

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Adonis3: 11:11pm On Feb 19, 2016

netizenbuzz:
"Who doesn't want respect?" Why not ask your fellow men why they find it so difficult to respect their women then? Eph 5:21 demands submission from both sides. I think until we realize as human beings that we were all fearfully and wonderfully made in the sight of God, and no one can create the other, it is only then we would be able to treat one another right irrespective of gender.

Dorobuccii:
Eph 5:21
check that out

[b]my major problem with christians

Hypocrisy and ignorance

Truth be told, may xtians don't even understand what they're practicing

They just choose whatever they want to believe and leave the rest

Please why did u stop at v21,

Why didn't you check v22??

Talking about your ignorance

Did you realise that Jesus or Paul was actually talking about the church and christians

You might want to say both are members of the church

But if you read further, you'll see that even your Bible specifically requires and demands the woman to submit to her husband

Never did the Bible specifically state that a man submit to his wife

His only specific duty is to

LOVE his wife

I state today that any woman who BELIEVES the Bible and still argues to be equal with her husband is going against the principle of the Bible

As no great woman in the Bible ever contested her husband's position, from Sarah to Racheal to Hannah to Ruth to Mary and so on

Therefore, such woman is on the road to HELL FIRE!!! (By the standards of the Bible)

Thank you and GOD bless

Shalom![/b]

#Adonis3HasSopken

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Dorobuccii(f): 1:40am On Feb 20, 2016

Adonis3:
lol

I couldn't ignore this

So men rape girls to gain their submission

Wow, I didn't know that

Even the women who rape men also do so to gain submission

Issokay

#Adonis3HasSopken

Why do guys rape girls? If it's cos of sex there are ladies out there willing to have mutual sex. What other reason?
And how many cases of women raping men have you heard of? Probably 1 in a 1000 rape cases

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Dorobuccii(f): 1:43am On Feb 20, 2016

Adonis3:
[b]my major problem with christians

Hypocrisy and ignorance

Truth be told, may xtians don't even understand what they're practicing

They just choose whatever they want to believe and leave the rest

Please why did u stop at v21,

Why didn't you check v22??

Talking about your ignorance

Did you realise that Jesus or Paul was actually talking about the church and christians

You might want to say both are members of the church

But if you read further, you'll see that even your Bible specifically requires and demands the woman to submit to her husband

Never did the Bible specifically state that a man submit to his wife

His only specific duty is to

LOVE his wife

I state today that any woman who BELIEVES the Bible and still argues to be equal with her husband is going against the principle of the Bible

As no great woman in the Bible ever contested her husband's position, from Sarah to Racheal to Hannah to Ruth to Mary and so on

Therefore, such woman is on the road to HELL FIRE!!! (By the standards of the Bible)

Thank you and GOD bless

Shalom![/b]

#Adonis3HasSopken

So going by ur logic I guess a wife should not be expected to love her husband right?

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Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Adonis3: 8:07am On Feb 20, 2016

Dorobuccii:
Why do guys rape girls? If it's cos of sex there are ladies out there willing to have mutual sex. What other reason?
And how many cases of women raping men have you heard of? Probably 1 in a 1000 rape cases

I'm usually abusive to people like this buh I'm gonn be polite with you

A guy rapes a girl he probably might not see again (in some cases), he's trying to gain her submission, huh?

A 30 year old man rapes a 5 year old girl, please explain what type of submission he's trying to gain

A 27 year old man rapes 55 year old woman, submission gaining quest, huh?

Father rapes daughter, he's trying to gain her submission too?

And whether it's 1 in 10,000 or 50billion cases where women rape men

It still does happen, doesn't it

So I repeat, are they also trying to gain submission??

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Adonis3: 8:09am On Feb 20, 2016

Dorobuccii:
So going by ur logic I guess a wife should not be expected to love her husband right?

if you believe the Bible,

It's not her duty

Her submission is what's required

And you definitely can't be unfaithful to someone your submissive to

#Adonis3HasSopken

Re: Men, Why Is Respect So Important To You? by Nobody: 7:10pm On Feb 20, 2016*

Adonis3:
[b]my major problem with christians

Hypocrisy and ignorance

Truth be told, may xtians don't even understand what they're practicing

They just choose whatever they want to believe and leave the rest

Please why did u stop at v21,

Why didn't you check v22??

Talking about your ignorance

Did you realise that Jesus or Paul was actually talking about the church and christians

You might want to say both are members of the church

But if you read further, you'll see that even your Bible specifically requires and demands the woman to submit to her husband

Never did the Bible specifically state that a man submit to his wife

His only specific duty is to

LOVE his wife

I state today that any woman who BELIEVES the Bible and still argues to be equal with her husband is going against the principle of the Bible

As no great woman in the Bible ever contested her husband's position, from Sarah to Racheal to Hannah to Ruth to Mary and so on

Therefore, such woman is on the road to HELL FIRE!!! (By the standards of the Bible)

Thank you and GOD bless

Shalom![/b]

#Adonis3HasSopken

you call me an hypocrite yet you chose to ignore too. My dear, why do most people ignore vs 21 and jump to 22? How do you know that they were only referring to the church? Please, this your thinking is what makes men feel it is their birthright to disrespect their wives and talk to them anyhow. Respect won't kill anybody. Why can't you just? You don't have a point puhlease. And please your inferiority complex is soooo..........submitting to your wife does not mean you are competing for position. Now I see where the problem is. When Nigerian men hear the word 'submit', they automatically interpret it as riding on someone, no wonder y'all think you can use your wives head anyhow. You are not God so you have no right to judge whether a person is going to hell or not. You call Sarah, remember that he asked Abraham to lay with her maid and he listened? Of all the people you mentioned, which of their husbands mistreated them? Please think from the perspective of woman for once. The world doesn't not revolve around you. You are in no way better than me. We are different but unique in our own rights. We would not be judged differently when we get to heaven. You cannot create me so I don;t owe you a thing. In fact it is no use arguing with you, I just never pray to marry someone with your mentality and believe me they are plenty out there.

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