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Demmzy15:
I noticed it too, many times he likes to hail Parisbookadict... . One other atheist I'm still trying to burst is one'track!

unphilaz:
let me get it very clearly, you are stating under authority that the ahadith we have today does not have ANY LIES (from kufars,by mistakes etc) against the prophet through a very well developed study of the science of hadith was used to remove such lies. abi? So what we read is the true reflection of the life and times of the prophet that you aught to abide with and accept as what he trully said and did!

unphilaz:
we getting there slowly and steadily... by this , meaning that since the prophet has died there NEEDS no lifting nor removal of any islamic text?

true2god:
Your question is like 'who kill people more, armed robbers or police'? That's a silly question to be asked by an adult, if you are one. If you have value for human life who wont ask such question.

And I tell you that the fighting\killing of Jews is fully endorsed in both in the quran and the hadith. Any muslim that kill any Jews is a normal exercise in obedience to allahh and his apostle. No christian book sanctioned or approved killing of Jews. All the early christians, as a matter of fact, are all Jews.

facheux:
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Women are treated great in Islam
Muhammad pbuh best man to walk the face of the earth.

AlMuflihah:
Wallahi I don't understand your question.
but I think I said everything still remains where they were recorded and we still find them in books knowing they're authentic, weak or fabricated.
So we strive to ascertain the authenticity of an hadith we read through the science before attributing it to Muhammad(Peace be upon him) or working with them.

Demmzy15:
So by this nonsense, you're trying to justify christians killing Jews abi? I could remember a scenario of when the black death plague struck the world, christians blamed Jews and started killing them. Now christians are police in this case abi?



Being a Jew is different from being a Christian, If a Jew is a Christian, then he can't be like you because he would reject trinity and he'll still uphold law. Something you christians of today consider as a curse! Muslims at some time fought Jews after they betrayed and they also protected them when they were loyal. But christians killed them at every slightest opportunity, don't forget that Jews consider their golden age to be under Islamic States, so stop bothering with your boring nonsense. They've refuted you, you now want to derail the thread and disturb abi?

AlMuflihah:
If by islamic text you meant the Qur'an or an authentic hadith YES it can't be lifted or removed. but if by islamic text you meant weak or fabricated ahadith, then you know the answer to that already because it's not even from Muhammad(Peace be upon him)

Blackfire:
@facheux pls don't mind annunaki.
So mohamed raided caravan... Imagine that ur father owns some goods in that caravan, which he borrowed money to facilitate, than a man and his almajiris stole the goods, killed the driver, and plunge ur family to misery and penury... Yet the so called anini, said he is a prophet the best of mankind..

Ehen continue jare... Mohamed is the best after slice bread....

DeathStroke007:
which mark on prophet Muhammad (saw)...what's this one saying?

facheux:
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Women are treated great in Islam
Muhammad pbuh best man to walk the face of the earth.

lexiconkabir:
Unphilaz The only book that Allah promised to guard is the Quran, so they are bound to be lies in the hadith, this is not some book, where some anonymous writers wrote a book claiming to be inspired by some "holy spirit" sh!t.

analice107:
HahahahahahahahaHHHa. My friend don vex.
Hmm. Allahh promised to preserve it through you muslims [s]who kill anyone who points to allahhs lies ba?[/s]

lexiconkabir:
again, i counsel thee to go back and read that post, imagine! recycling questions that has been answered within the same thread.

dragunov:
Your response to the questions is not satisfying. Kapische?

lexiconkabir:
@Blackfire, lol, you wrote such a long epistle to defend the undefendable, see, i have studied you, and i know that you are an undercover christian, let me give you an instance, a brother made a statement that "why would christians believe that their God came from a woman" and you being an "atheist" said "where do you expect him to come from, her head or her leg.." now a normal atheist should condemn this irrationality or keep mute, yet you tried to defend it, what does this mean? mind you, i can bring the thread if you want.

analice107:
Hahahahahahaha. See desperation.

So now that you have discovered he is Christian, can you stop mud slinging and treat the op?
Does it not disturb you that allahh lies the way he does?

lexiconkabir:
actually you sound frustrated, you are masking your frustration under that "hahahahaha" which op? op that has been busted?

true2god:
How did you burst the op? Did he compile the hadith? Is he Abu Dawud?

dragunov:
Oh yeah? Really? You know there is something queer and frightening I discovered about the human nature. Despite being created in God's image and likeness there's always this propensity to gravitate towards the bizarre, to get impulsively attracted to evil. Now any religion that gives room for this kind of impulsiveness is a natural haven for men of wicked dispositions. Men that don't and can't retain anything that stands for God or godliness. Islam and it's advocates have developed a new definition and or meaning for the concept of perfection. It lacks the intrinsic essence of goodness, maturity and completeness. It only holds on to the aspect of mastery. And in this perspective, to say Mohamed was perfect won't be an outlandish idea. This guy was the most perfect, in fact the epitomy of perfection, the guy who singlehandedly turned psychopathy into a perfect art. This dude was a perfect liar, a murderer, a sexy offender, a thief, a psychopath, a lecher, 'per perfection' (permit me to use that word) . Like seriously do you think it easy to commit such heinous crimes against humanity, put it in writing and command others to follow suit without being a master? A perfect monster? The best?

analice107:
Taaaa. Don't deny, you said, a mark on Muhammed proved his prophetship. Don't deny here.

AlMuflihah:
Wa alaykum(as the prophet taught to respond to these kinds of greetings)... You brought it up sir why not begin with your explanations. I await your response sir.

lexiconkabir:
I didnt, demmzy did, and he did by telling you that the most celebrated 21st century scholar of hadith sheik Albany graded that hadith weak, [size=25pt]THREAD CLOSED!!![/size]

AlMuflihah:
I don't know why I just can't keep off telling you you are an idiot.
I will answer your post in two folds, first part... WHY WILL I TAKE A DUMBHEAD LIKE YOU AS A PROTECTOR?

Secondly... let me teach you a little history and much of the brotherly love between Christians and jews... don't think I will talk about jews persecution of christians(thats too common) on the contrary listen to this...

After the Muslims conquered Jerusalem back from the Byzantines during the reign of UMAR bin khattab, there was an agreement between both parties and one of them was...
NO JEWS ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE WITHIN JERUSALEM... but guess what? that was a request and condition the christian byzantine made as a condition on Umar before they would hand over the keys of Jerusalem and before the agreement can be signed. Note they had always persecuted the Jews in Jerusalem before Allah now decreed it to fall into Muslim hands.
Source tarikh Al-Tabari

unphilaz:
By islamic text, i mean ONLY koran! Becos allah spoke thru mohammed and everything needed for guidiance of the muslim ummah is written in the koran not any hadit that is written by mortals not under the guidiance of allah. Except you agree that man's words are allah's word thus the hadith is added to the koran?

analice107:
Am shamed of you, only because I share the same gender with you. You open your mouth constantly to insult a man who has not insulted you even once.
Islam is indeed a virus. Go back and check from the beginning of this thread, no Christian has called any of you a fool or an idiot. The reverse has been the case. I can tolerate the men, but a woman calling a man an idiot? Do you think because you are a Muslim that exonerate you from being morally upright?
Where do you come from? because we as Africans have a culture which respects each other, especially our men first, before following any religion we choose, which also shd make us better people, not worst. OMW

I have been following you and the way you allow your mouth roll out shit. I hope you know that so many people are reading what we type here silently? I hope you know you are here projecting and representing your religion? Otio.

AlMuflihah:
How do I even begin explaining to this one?

Unlike the bible that was written several years after the life of Jesus, the Qur'an is a book that was revealed in piecemeal by Allah through His prophet to an entirely backward ignorant race for a period of about 23 years.

About your claim of inconsistencies,

unphilaz:
interesting...am not asking any question but am trying to understand what you wrote...thus i put it in statement.

so you are stating that after the science of the ahadith has been applied, the lies have been removed leaving authentic, weak and fabricated hadith...therefore you have to strive to ascertain the authentic hadith by which you will know which one to attribute to mohammed or working with them? hope i got the meaning of what you have said?

lexiconkabir:
actually you sound frustrated, you are masking your frustration under that "hahahahaha" which op? op that has been busted?

analice107:
Am shamed of you, only because I share the same gender with you. You open your mouth constantly to insult a man who has not insulted you even once.
Islam is indeed a virus. Go back and check from the beginning of this thread, no Christian has called any of you a fool or an idiot. The reverse has been the case. I can tolerate the men, but a woman calling a man an idiot? Do you think because you are a Muslim that exonerate you from being morally upright?
Where do you come from? because we as Africans have a culture which respects each other, especially our men first, before following any religion we choose, which also shd make us better people, not worst. OMW

I have been following you and the way you allow your mouth roll out shit. I hope you know that so many people are reading what we type here silently? I hope you know you are here projecting and representing your religion? Otio.

analice107:
You called him this one as if you are more intelligent than him, then you came up to say poo. Did allahh reveal the Koran to Muhammed or jibril reveal it to Muhammed? Do you seriously think when you talk?
Allahh revealed to jibril, jibril revealed to Muhammed, Muhammed recited to Tariq Al Tabari and the host of other scribes. Yet you say Allah dropped the Koran directly from heaven to muhammed.
Do you think saying this constantly will make it true? And, do you believe yourself when you say these things? because we don't.