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sweetrii:
it seems ure nt civilized nor educated

wasted sperm ....product of premature ejaculation ..shove Ur head in Ur ass and see if it fits if it does then quote me again ...Ur dad was not educated enough to pull out ...

mummydirect:
That girl is a small girl. she could b thirteen, considering the rate at which girls grow up these days. She is only but a child and could have being lured with little money and fake promises but just like you have asked, where and when was she kidnapped? So scared of children of this days, they know more than you think. The parents of the girl should be held responsible for all these. I tire a beg make I sleep, may God deliver us from rebellious children, amen.

mum amen ohh...

If we had 10 of ur type on Nairaland.then nairaland wuld hd been a bttr place..(u convincd me with gud point..) not like sum fools that will try to convince u with insult like say na by fuz..

ummuabdurahman:
it is sad the way people judge other people's religion blindly.If this story is true then what yunusa did is anti Islam. there is no forceful marriage in islam for a marriage to be binding in islam it entails the following
1. The consent of both the man and woman
2.The consent of the bride father or guardian
3. Two or more witnesses
4.The Mahr - meaning the bride price

These must stand for any marriage to be legitimate in islam. so tell me what has islam gotten to do with Yunusa's act.

Knowledge is power
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Every bad thing ur ppl do, in the name of your God yet u ppl still say is anti Islam
Pls why then do Islam have lot of psychopaths

brandchambers:
Religion of peace indeed. If this was to be the other way round, all hell would have been let loose. Islam at best can only offer the 'peace' of the graveyard. It is permissible to force somebody to convert to Islam, ironically, a former muslim who renege the religion is deemed to have committed apostasy punishable with death under their Sharia. I'm so convinced that could not be God. Otherwise why did he created human differently, if we could not exercise our Right of Choice and freewill. I will rather worship any of the Yoruba gods than worship an Arab god. That's my take.

you have mentioned that ‘any person should be free to follow the faith he chooses and should not be forced’. This undoubtedly is a very noble principle and as a Muslim we acknowledge it as such.
You too agree that the teaching of the Quran is exactly the same – that there should not be any coercion in religion. But I understand that you are not prepared to accept it as a valid teaching of Islam, based on your allegation.
Now let us come specifically to the question of apostasy. The first point to be emphasized is that the Noble Quran does not prescribe death penalty for deserters of Islam, but rather states that they would be in Hell in the hereafter:

{…Your enemies] will not cease to fight against you till they have turned you away from your faith, if they can. But if any of you should turn away from his faith and die as a denier of the truth - these it is whose works will go for nought in this world and in the life to come; and these it is who are destined for the fire, therein to abide.} (Quran 2:217)

Here is a verse that directly refers to people who abandon their faith after accepting it. It says what means:

{But those who reject faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of faith never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have [of set purpose] gone astray.} (Quran 3:90)

As you can see, there is no mention here of the death penalty for the deserters.

But there are Muslim scholars who believe in the death penalty for apostates because of hadiths that mention it.

If we study the context of these hadiths, we can see that the ruling was with reference to certain specific cases of miscreants who wished to undermine Islam, by joining Islam first and then deserting it. This is mentioned in the following verse that says what means:

{A section of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers [Muslims], but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may [themselves] turn back [from Islam]."} (Quran 3:72)

In order to protect Islam from such malicious attempts to subvert it, death penalty might have been deemed necessary.
This indeed was a drastic step adopted to ensure the solidarity of the nascent Muslim community in those days.

If it had been a general ruling applicable for all occasions, this would have been stated in the Quran because it is a life-and-death question that affects the very fabric of Islam most seriously.

On the other hand, read the verse that says what means:


{Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed [to God's will] in Islam. Leave them alone to enjoy [the good things of this life] and to please themselves: let [false] hope amuse them: soon will knowledge [undeceive them].} (Quran 15:2-3)

This verse clearly indicates that the disbelievers should be left alone. Moreover, the killing of apostates would undermine the freedom of will Allah has bestowed on each human, as is made clear in the verses that say what means:

{If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! Wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.} (Quran 10:99-100)

{Say, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject [it]: for the wrong doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a dwelling (resting place)!"} (Quran 18:29)

The verses quoted above are categorical that complete freedom of will is a condition for sincere and wholehearted submission to Allah Almighty, and no force should be used in this regard. This is because coercion does not go along with freedom of choice.   

In addition, we may consider another verse, too, which says what means:

{Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe [again] and [again] reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief, — Allah will not forgive them nor guide them on the way.} (Quran 4:137)

The example of a person who vacillates between Islam and disbelief is cited here. Note the expression: {believe, then reject faith, then believe [again] and [again] reject faith}.

How can we imagine a person becoming a Muslim a second time, after rejecting faith once, IF he is to be killed after his rejection? The significance of this verse is one of free choice; though one is expected to be responsible in the use of that choice.

Thus we see that the general teaching of the Quran is one of freedom of choice and mercy.

Everyone is a Potential Muslim means that everyone has that God given gift and potential to acquire peace in life by surrendering themselves alone to their Creator. This is what a Muslim is!

A Human being regardless will end up worshiping something in life if he doesn't worship the Creator, be it,Spirit, money, cars, fashion, Idols, Saints, human beings,himself etc..But by Worshiping the Creator and not the creation that's when you are truly free and at peace with a promise of Paradise at the end of this life.
Islam provides all the evidence to you the sceptic to prove that it is the truth from God.


The focus of a Muslim is not on this world but on the world to come.

It's obvious that this story has been sensational and many people already voiced their ignorance as this has nothing to do with Islam.

goshen26:
bad English everywhere

I hear say na you dey mod grammar for NL. How much seun dey pay you?

It's another one....

DJ Islaaaaaaaaaaam

*sighs*

If Yerima can do it and nothing happen, why not yinusa? Nonsense.

No sane human being will chop 13yrs old abuna without guilty conscience.

I can imagine the mental and physical stress the said girl is facing not to talk of excruciating pain .

This country is a zoo indeed!

goshen26:
bad English everywhere

Were you taught to start a sentence with a small letter?

The responses on this thread SHa...

Some of you are saying this has nothing to do with Islam bla bla, some Pastors also rape kids bla bla. Are you sure you read the story? WHY ARE THE PERPETRATORS BEING PROTECTED!!! Why was the Emir unwilling to assist until the pressure became a bit much? I mean I assure you if this happened in the name of Christianity, no matter who, even if a big pastor, the perpetrators would be in cuffs and paraded on TV by now. So I ask again if this has nothing to do with religion why the impunity?

I even learned that a similar thing happened before in Bida.

For those saying she ran away with a boyfriend or was enticed by money, the parents are to blame etc etc. I really pity your future. This is a 13 year old girl that comes from a humble background, so if she liked someone who had means (assuming that was even the case) how does that give the person the right to kidnap her AT 13 and convert her to another religion!!!? Are you people mad! Who didn't have a crush at 13? What's the big deal about having a crush? Did you kidnap the person because you could? If someone is kidnapped how can the parents help that? Did you not see the great lengths her parents have gone to get her back?

If you guys had actually bothered to read the story you'll see she was clearly under some sinister influence.

Chai chai chai. The lack of empathy, stupidity and more in this country don tire me. Especially amongst those of us in the south.

For the good of all that girl must be returned and the perps MUST be reprimanded. What nonsense

laidback:
The responses on this thread SHa...

Some of you are saying this has nothing to do with Islam bla bla, some Pastors also rape kids bla bla. Are you sure you read the story? WHY ARE THE PERPETRATORS BEING PROTECTED!!! Why was the Emir unwilling to assist until the pressure became a bit much? I mean I assure you if this happened in the name of Christianity the perpetrators would be in cuffs and paraded on TV by now. So I ask again if this has nothing to do with religion why the impunity?

I even learned that a similar thing happened before in Bida.

For those saying she ran away with a boyfriend or was enticed by money, the parents are to blame etc etc. I really pity your future. This is a 13 year old girl that comes from a humble background, so if she liked someone who had means (assuming that was even the case) how does that give the person the right to kidnap her AT 13 and convert her to another religion!!!? Are you people mad! Who didn't have a crush at 13? What's the big deal about having a crush? Did you kidnap the person because you could?

Besides if you guys had even bothered to read the story you'll see she was clearly under some influence.

Chai chai chai. The lack of empathy, stupidity and more in this country son tire me. Especially amongst those of us in the south.

For the good of all that girl must be returned and the perps MUST be reprimanded. What nonsense

you are very right bro! Those bas.tards

Ignorance ehn, long ago I have learnt not to take peeps comment on NL criously, always ready to paint Islam bad, just like some few hours ago abt Dr. Ngige fainted or not, d story might come up and u find ignorant folks talking from both sides of their mouth. God knows best.

ummuabdurahman:
it is sad the way people judge other people's religion blindly.If this story is true then what yunusa did is anti Islam. there is no forceful marriage in islam for a marriage to be binding in islam it entails the following
1. The consent of both the man and woman
2.The consent of the bride father or guardian
3. Two or more witnesses
4.The Mahr - meaning the bride price

These must stand for any marriage to be legitimate in islam. so tell me what has islam gotten to do with Yunusa's act.

Knowledge is power

taqqiya alert!!!

TruthHurts1:
They have no class, They have no dignity and they set low standards for themselves.

They now want to force those low standards on others. Fulani herdsmen kidnapping,raping and murdering all over the country and nobody doing anything to stop them.

Mark my words, this country's days are numbered.

religion of piss (violence).

[quote author=Igbogirlgate post=43045916]"Na their way na


Prick still dey shark her..."
Are you a child??
I even doubt you're a female with this unguided, shameful statement of yours.

chynie:
Every bad thing ur ppl do, in the name of your God yet u ppl still say is anti Islam
Pls why then do Islam have lot of psychopaths

After all what she wrote
Does Islam support his actions; Yes or No or kindly SHUT UP.

Igbogirlgate:
"Na their way na


Prick still dey shark her..."

Are you a child??
I even doubt you're a female with this unguided, shameful statement of yours.

This is terrible!
Justice MUST prevail in this matter.
It MUST never be allowed to go under the carpet!
Let's speak up now

0079jaBond:
Are you a child??
I even doubt you're a female with this unguided, shameful statement of yours.

what did I say, dat you have not heard or seen bfor? Abeg maintain your lane. Oya you have been noticed. Next!

Igbogirlgate:
what did I say, dat you have not heard or seen bfor? Abeg maintain your lane. Oya you have been noticed. Next!

Abeg shift jare...
I thought you had conscience sef

0079jaBond:
Abeg shift jare...
I thought you had conscience sef

I don't have come arrest me.

It's been a while since any story pained me like this. Each time I think of the issue, it's not that some fellows had the audacity to do something like this that annoys me. People take daring, fool hardy, wicked steps ALL the time. What gets to me is having being discovered, why is there no outrage from the right quarters. Why are the perps being protected for Christ's sake. Why are those higher in authority, like the Emir not more involved.

What's different between this and Chibok? Even Chibok is better, at least they couldn't be rescued because they were being held by numerous, murderous terrorists in unknown locations. This one the kidnapper is known, the location can be found yet no outrage.

This is why some people resort to some very diabolic means in protecting themselves and their families because sometimes it seems God is too long-suffering and merciful.

laidback:
[s]
Some of you are saying this has nothing to do with Islam bla bla, some Pastors also rape kids bla bla. Are you sure you read the story? WHY ARE THE PERPETRATORS BEING PROTECTED!!! Why was the Emir unwilling to assist until the pressure became a bit much? I mean I assure you if this happened in the name of Christianity, no matter who, even if a big pastor, the perpetrators would be in cuffs and paraded on TV by now. So I ask again if this has nothing to do with religion why the impunity?

I even learned that a similar thing happened before in Bida.

For those saying she ran away with a boyfriend or was enticed by money, the parents are to blame etc etc. I really pity your future. This is a 13 year old girl that comes from a humble background, so if she liked someone who had means (assuming that was even the case) how does that give the person the right to kidnap her AT 13 and convert her to another religion!!!? Are you people mad! Who didn't have a crush at 13? What's the big deal about having a crush? Did you kidnap the person because you could? If someone is kidnapped how can the parents help that? Did you not see the great lengths her parents have gone to get her back?

If you guys had actually bothered to read the story you'll see she was clearly under some sinister influence.

Chai chai chai. The lack of empathy, stupidity and more in this country don tire me. Especially amongst those of us in the south.

For the good of all that girl must be returned and the perps MUST be reprimanded. What nonsense[/s]

If you think Islam supports the act,simply show everyone the proof from an Islamic text or from the Shari'a and not all this your unnecessary story.
some people and their shallow reasoning *smh*

Igbogirlgate:
I don't have come arrest me.

Even with the mosquitos parading police cells at night, don't you think you'd add more distasteful and unpleasant atmosphere if I were to arrest you?

richardjemedafe1:
Abeg na only me see sumtin wrong in a 13 years old girl dress like this??


Abeg na only me see say e b like say d girl folow the housa man wilingly because of money??


Abeg make sumbody help me ask mama ese say when she they when them abduct ese?? Like c-riously why she they lie on ese age?? That girl pass 13y.

Is ese confortable were she is?? If yes,then let the sleeping dog lie*.
Hmm parent train ur kids up in a way that even when the grow the wil not depart frm it

shut up!

Let everyone share the story on their walls on FB, Channels and other TV stations should take it up, a countdown should start maybe on Nairaland front-page. Circulate it as much as possible.

Thank you.

Apparently we have only a few sensible folks online these days.

laidback:
The responses on this thread SHa...

Some of you are saying this has nothing to do with Islam bla bla, some Pastors also rape kids bla bla. Are you sure you read the story? WHY ARE THE PERPETRATORS BEING PROTECTED!!! Why was the Emir unwilling to assist until the pressure became a bit much? I mean I assure you if this happened in the name of Christianity, no matter who, even if a big pastor, the perpetrators would be in cuffs and paraded on TV by now. So I ask again if this has nothing to do with religion why the impunity?

I even learned that a similar thing happened before in Bida.

For those saying she ran away with a boyfriend or was enticed by money, the parents are to blame etc etc. I really pity your future. This is a 13 year old girl that comes from a humble background, so if she liked someone who had means (assuming that was even the case) how does that give the person the right to kidnap her AT 13 and convert her to another religion!!!? Are you people mad! Who didn't have a crush at 13? What's the big deal about having a crush? Did you kidnap the person because you could? If someone is kidnapped how can the parents help that? Did you not see the great lengths her parents have gone to get her back?

If you guys had actually bothered to read the story you'll see she was clearly under some sinister influence.

Chai chai chai. The lack of empathy, stupidity and more in this country don tire me. Especially amongst those of us in the south.

For the good of all that girl must be returned and the perps MUST be reprimanded. What nonsense

crusadistic:
If you think Islam supports the act,simply show everyone the proof from an Islamic text or from the Shari'a and not all this your unnecessary story.
some people and their shallow reasoning *smh*

You'Re the one certifiably crippled with shallow reasoning. I know what precisely Islam supports and doesn't. I live among Muslims and don't need to be told anything. I have NO intention of reading any crap you post. A girl is kidnapped in the most sadistic manner and you and your type are more interested in how people think it relates to Islam than in being angry about the act. Like any religion, your words and actions are ALL I ever need to read not any Holy book. Have I finished reading my Bible the I should be reading what you posted? Crap.

As a matter of fact, if it's just a few bad eggs giving Islam a bad name, you're one of those bad eggs. I live in the north and see your type EVERY TIME.

Oyedepo slapped a girl of about the same age who admitted being a witch on National TV and it was Christians who even attacked HIM the most.

You've not said a word against the perps you're not even outraged about the incident,yet you'Re going about looking for who said what about Islam. Nonsense.

Answer my question, why are those guys not behind bars? Who's protecting them? Don't deviate from the real issue.

Chaii chaii Dem don collect our geli pikin again??

Watin we Dems na..

Aboki abegs returns, returns quicky quicky

Papa an mama Esa, make Una carrys for mind say si no go comes bak as virgins again..

Make aboki Neva geam belle oo..

Don worries.. Dia is God oo....

This is not Islamic

richardjemedafe1:
Abeg na only me see sumtin wrong in a 13 years old girl dress like this??


Abeg na only me see say e b like say d girl folow the housa man wilingly because of money??


Abeg make sumbody help me ask mama ese say when she they when them abduct ese?? Like c-riously why she they lie on ese age?? That girl pass 13y.

Is ese confortable were she is?? If yes,then let the sleeping dog lie*.
Hmm parent train ur kids up in a way that even when the grow the wil not depart frm it

Are you being serious? I think you are evil. Would you say that if your daughter or any of your female relatives disappears like that.

What nonsense. The girl in the picture is underaged. Whether she is 13 or not is not your business. She is clearly not old enough to make such life changing decision. Her parents deserves to see her and know exactly what happened to her.

Every tribe and people has got their own cultures, tradition as well as values. The parents of the girl are in shock so are her kinsmen. They not only demand an urgent answer of her whereabout, the man who lured her away from home in Bayelsa is a pedophile and a kidnapper. He should be treated accordingly.

The inability of police, DSS and other law enforcement agents to track and rescue her speaks volume about the evil that is Nigeria society. Would an Hausa girl living Kano and a practicing Muslim who disappears with an Ijaw man be viewed same way as this case.

Would you as a person argue that if the underaged Hausa girl be allowed to stay with her Christian kidnapper and molester in warri all because she is comfortable in her new environment? Do we need Emir of Kano, Sanusi to intervene before the police do their job?

What a very wicked society and for all of you judging that little girl by her dressing, you all should stop being biased and ignorant. Lots of young people dress like that especially during inter house sports in their schools. You all should look beyond that dress and hope she is reunited with her family.

Some idiots have really ticked me off this night.

A pastor was online last year soliciting for money to buy the latest private jet, even though he already had one. I read the story and registered my displeasure there and then.

When I read of so called Pastors sleeping with a member's wife for instance, I don't go online looking to attack those who bash the pastor or Christianity, cos I know what my religion is about and I'm secure in its knowledge. I don't even care what such people have to say, my concern is on the victim of the 'Pastor's' wickedness and nothing else.

Look at this touching story, yet we have some ninjas online who would rather think it was made up to tarnish Islam. Can you imagine! Talk about parochial, twisted reasoning.

Why don't you ask yourself why you keep having to defend your religion?

I cut off from a good friend in Kaduna in 2012 for this same nonsense. Boko Haram had just struck in Kano and other places, people were outraged and condemning the perps yet this guy didn't utter one word in sympathy. Instead he was busy looking for those who were questioning Islam to attack. Another one was blaming the Nigerian police rather than BH for the killings even after BH took responsibility. I know their type. I have good Muslim friends, people I trust and I know the types of the idiots on this thread.

Please face the topic.