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Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 7:51pm On Feb 19, 2016
I'm not an economist and I'm here to learn as we learn everyday...
How can this free fall of the naira lead to the rise of Nigeria?
I'm confused...
Somebody educate us...
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by zico530(m): 7:55pm On Feb 19, 2016
Na today?
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 7:59pm On Feb 19, 2016
zico530:
Na today?
huh
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by bokohalal(m): 8:06pm On Feb 19, 2016
Our foreign exchange rate is determined by market forces. It is actually madness for anyone to advocate the expending of our scarce finances and energy in shoring up the naira. All those that are currently hoarding dollars corruptly gotten during the last administration should return them and we will have a stable dollar
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 8:09pm On Feb 19, 2016
bokohalal:
Our foreign exchange rate is determined by market forces. It is actually madness for anyone to advocate the expending of our scarce finances and energy in shoring up the naira. All those that are currently hoarding dollars corruptly gotten during the last administration should return them and we will have a stable dollar
u don confuse me totally..
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by diasporaman(m): 8:11pm On Feb 19, 2016
We in diaspora we are praying for dollar to continue falling to enable us have more when we change it to naira
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by mallamseifaldin(m): 8:13pm On Feb 19, 2016
Our leaders are very myopic what is hindering them from venturing into massive AGRICULTURE & INDUSTRIALIZATION..
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 8:14pm On Feb 19, 2016
diasporaman:
i don't understand
Me neither.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by osesology(m): 8:17pm On Feb 19, 2016
DDeliverer:
I'm not an economist and I'm here to learn as we learn everyday...

How can this free fall of the naira lead to the rise of Nigeria?

I'm confused...

Somebody educate us...
Even me too, I want to be in the know. Can someone pls elucidate more on this.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 8:18pm On Feb 19, 2016
diasporaman:
We in diaspora we are praying for dollar to continue falling to enable us have more when we change it to naira
huh? to what end?
do u remember Zimbabwe?
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by diasporaman(m): 8:22pm On Feb 19, 2016
THE BOOK OF DIASPORAMAN CHAPTER 1


Verse 1. In the first year of the reign of Buhari, King of Nigeria in the 16th year after the second millennium, Immediately after the locust years of pdp which was headed by a shoe less man. the spirit ministered unto Diasporaman.

Verse 2. The spirit spake unto Diasporaman “Seest not thou how I have weakened the naira against the dollar, euro and pounds. For 2000 pounds is currently N1m? Shall thou not find a wife, change your pounds to plenty Naira and have a big wedding which all men shall view on Linda Ikeji blog, Ovation magazine or Bella Naija”?

Verse 3. And Diasporaman answered and said “Thy servant seest the fall of the Naira at an exchange rate of N500 to a pound but patiently waiteth to see if it will weaken to N1500 so thy servant can massively turn up as thou pleaseth”

Verse 4. “Wait not Son, appoint thou a date and a beautiful damsel that thou mayest enjoy the fall of the naira at the moment, for at the appointed time, the Naira shall be exalted to its place of glory.”
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20:
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DDeliverer:
I'm not an economist and I'm here to learn as we learn everyday...
How can this free fall of the naira lead to the rise of Nigeria?
I'm confused...
Somebody educate us...
Let me explain as briefly as possible.
The product that fuels our economy is petroleum. bt it is quite unfortunate that this product has lost its international value. Leading to dollar scarcity in CBN. nw for nigeria to manage this situation.
the Cbn stopped allocating money to the bereau the change operators and pegging the official price at 199=1 dollar. dis is to discourage the importation of products that can be produced in nigeria, e.g toothpick, biscuit, cars and petroleum. forcing marketer to buy made in naija product, this will force other countries to import frm nigeria, and also come and establish their company in nigeria because it will be cheaper to invest in nigeria. nw if this is done nigeria will nw fuel their economy via exportation of agricultural and local products. there by reducing the stress of competing with bigger economies like usa and Uk for foreign product like phone, cars and fuel. which is making our naira to fall.
The bottom line is that nigeria wants to go into INDUSTRALIZATION which is nw helping CHINA.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by osesology(m): 8:23pm On Feb 19, 2016
bokohalal:
Our foreign exchange rate is determined by market forces. It is actually madness for anyone to advocate the expending of our scarce finances and energy in shoring up the naira. All those that are currently hoarding dollars corruptly gotten during the last administration should return them and we will have a stable dollar
I think u are digressing. What the op wants to know is: how does the fall of the Naira against the dollar in the Nigerian market benefits us as Nigerians economically? Because as far as I know, things have gotten worse since the continuous fall of the naira, even down to the lowest item in the market.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 8:28pm On Feb 19, 2016
osesology:
I think u are digressing. What the op wants to know is: how does the fall of the Naira against the dollar in the Nigerian market benefits us as Nigerians economically? Because as far as I know, things have gotten worse since the continuous fall of the naira, even down to the lowest item in the market.
I couldn't have said it any better..
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by emerged01(m): 8:41pm On Feb 19, 2016
DDeliverer:
I couldn't have said it any better..
What I can tell you is that you should prepare for the worse and hope for the best. If CBN do their abracadabra and the value of naira increase, we are only deceiving ourselves. For Nigeria economy to be buoyant,we must start producing in this country.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 8:50pm On Feb 19, 2016
Elosky20:
j
Let me explain as briefly as possible.
The product that fuels our economy is petroleum. bt it is quite unfortunate that this product has lost its international value. Leading to dollar scarcity in CBN. nw for nigeria to manage this situation. the Cbn stopped allocating money to the bereau the change operators and pegging the official price at 199=1 dollar. dis is to discourage the importation of products that can be produced in nigeria, forcing marketer to buy made in naija product, this will force other countries to import frm nigeria, and also come and establish their company in nigeria.
I think I understand..
The long n short of the matter is for Nigeria to start producing..
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20: 9:06pm On Feb 19, 2016
DDeliverer:
I think I understand..
The long n short of the matter is for Nigeria to start producing..
yes. the aim is for us to start producing and stop importation. after this is achieved nigeria can nw trade with other countries via TRADE BY BATTER. we give USA $1bilion dollars worth of agricultural product, they give us electronics and weapon worth of $1bilion dollars, nw with this type of trade naira will nt fall again because we are nt trading with it again.
hope i helped.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 9:13pm On Feb 19, 2016
Elosky20:
yes. the aim is for us to start producing and stop importation. after this is achieved nigeria can nw trade with other countries via TRADE BY BATTER. we give USA $1bilion dollars worth of agricultural product, they give us electronics and weapon worth of $1bilion dollars, nw with this type of trade naira will nt fall again because we are nt trading with it again.
hope i helped.
yeah, even a baby can understand this....great..

but before we can deal with other countries say America, on a trade by barter level, that will take 10...20... or even 50years..
it can't be achieved in 4years ba?
and is agricultural product the only thing we can produce?
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20:
DDeliverer:
yeah, even a baby can understand this....great..

but before we can deal with other countries say America, on a trade by barter level, that will take 10...20... or even 50years..
it can't be achieved in 4years ba?
and is agricultural product the only thing we can produce?
it can be achieved in 4 years if the government pump enough money as we can get into the initiative. it must nt be agriculture. we can start with production of
.
Car - via innoson nigeria limited and expand production because nigeria spend more money on cars, atleast we can supply to other third world countries.
.
POULTRY- investing enough money in poultry will yield interest within a year.
.
TELECOMMUNICATION- we will need to invest in GLO which a nigeria company to boast production so we can service other african countries and if possible out grow MTN.
.
we can also go into:
phone production
Building and construction in africa.
.
this are a few sectors that can yield quick return in a short period, atleast to satisfy our national needs.
.
That is why seun said "Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise" we must suffer to enjoy.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20: 9:38pm On Feb 19, 2016
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Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20: 9:40pm On Feb 19, 2016
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Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Nobody: 9:59pm On Feb 19, 2016
Elosky20:
it can be achieved in 4 years if the government pump enough money as we can get into the initiative. it must nt be agriculture. we can start with production of
.
Car - via innoson nigeria limited and expand production because nigeria spend more money on cars, atleast we can supply to other third world countries.
.
POULTRY- investing enough money in poultry will yield interest within a year.
.
TELECOMMUNICATION- we will need to invest in GLO which a nigeria company to boast production so we can service other african countries and if possible out grow MTN.
.
we can also go into:
phone production
Building and construction in africa and stop loosing our money to JULIUS BERGER
.
this are a few sectors that can yield quick return in a short period, atleast to satisfy our national needs.
.
That is why seun said "Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise" we must suffer to enjoy.
if it is this easy....why is the government not doing it?
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20:
DDeliverer:
if it is this easy....why is the government not doing it?
nobody wants to suffer, why will you go into industrialization when you can get money frm oil. plus corruption has eaten deep into our democratic system, people embezzle money allocated for industrial reform.
remember we once have NITEL which was catering for our telecommunication needs at a cheap rate bt we sold it and the buyer shut it down. only to import MTN into nigeria, to come and give us cut head call rates and all this money will end up in SOUTH AFRICA.
.
We once have working refineries bt they got spoilt and instead of the govt to repair they chose to pay subsidy to refine the oil outside the country. just to mention a few.
.
Nw south africa have: DSTV, MTN AND MULTI CHOICE, TELKOM MOBILE, VODACOM, SHOPRITE and all this are international companies. bt we have none here in nigeria
.
Nw u can see that corruption is the main problem with our growth. All we need to get back on track is patriotism, dedication and accountability. remember NO PAIN, NO GAIN
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by godoluwa(m): 10:50pm On Feb 19, 2016
Elosky20:
it can be achieved in 4 years if the government pump enough money as we can get into the initiative. it must nt be agriculture. we can start with production of
.
Car - via innoson nigeria limited and expand production because nigeria spend more money on cars, atleast we can supply to other third world countries.
.
POULTRY- investing enough money in poultry will yield interest within a year.
.
TELECOMMUNICATION- we will need to invest in GLO which a nigeria company to boast production so we can service other african countries and if possible out grow MTN.
.
we can also go into:
phone production
Building and construction in africa and stop loosing our money to JULIUS BERGER
.
this are a few sectors that can yield quick return in a short period, atleast to satisfy our national needs.
.
That is why seun said "Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise" we must suffer to enjoy.
hw many vehicles has innoson produced? hw many Nigerians can afford innoson cars?
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by godoluwa(m): 11:00pm On Feb 19, 2016
DDeliverer:
I'm not an economist and I'm here to learn as we learn everyday...

How can this free fall of the naira lead to the rise of Nigeria?

I'm confused...

Somebody educate us...
bottomline is that devaluation will brings inflation bt manageable while refusal to devalue it will destroy Nigeria economy. the best thing that CBN can do is to make forex available to manufacturing companies, importer of electronic gadgets & automobiles through LC so that the money will not be diverted elsewhere. we can never achieve producing all our needs locally in 100yrs to come. importation of toothpick is pure propaganda, we need to face the reality & stop defending thrash. we need to first have 24hrs stable electricity before we talked about production. a poster talked about buying innoson cars, my question is how many cars does innoson manufactures in a year? how many Nigerians can afford the price?
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20: 11:04pm On Feb 19, 2016
godoluwa:
hw many vehicles has innoson produced? hw many Nigerians can afford innoson cars?
that is what am saying.
1. their production rate is low because we are nt buying frm them we prefer to buy mercedes, toyota, Honda and others.
2. They are nt affordable because it is managed on little fund, and they produce little quantity. u knw u the bigger the quatity and machinery the cheaper the comodity
.
but if the FG pump enough money into their company they will boost production and also make the car affordable by subsidizing it, just like MTN mobile network rate came down after the introduction of GLO
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20: 11:14pm On Feb 19, 2016
godoluwa:
bottomline is that devaluation will brings inflation bt manageable while refusal to devalue it will destroy Nigeria economy. the best thing that CBN can do is to make forex available to manufacturing companies, importer of electronic gadgets & automobiles through LC so that the money will not be diverted elsewhere. we can never achieve producing all our needs locally in 100yrs to come. importation of toothpick is pure propaganda, we need to face the reality & stop defending thrash. we need to first have 24hrs stable electricity before we talked about production. a poster talked about buying innoson cars, my question is how many cars does innoson manufactures in a year? how many Nigerians can afford the price?
that is how we have been devalueing our naira frm N0.80 to $1 in 1985 and nw we are in N197 to $1. what difference has it made. than giving us false hope.
if u like devalue it to N500 u still need to balance ur import and export, import 50% and produce 50%. or else it will continue to go down.
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by SmartMugu: 2:09am On Feb 20, 2016
diasporaman:
We in diaspora we are praying for dollar to continue falling to enable us have more when we change it to naira
Doesn't that mean you have to travel to Nigeria to exchange your actual dollars? Western Union still pays back in the N198 price range for a dollar
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by godoluwa(m): 7:26am On Feb 20, 2016
Elosky20:
that is what am saying.
1. their production rate is low because we are nt buying frm them we prefer to buy mercedes, toyota, Honda and others.
2. They are nt affordable because it is managed on little fund, and they produce little quantity. u knw u the bigger the quatity and machinery the cheaper the comodity
.
but if the FG pump enough money into their company they will boost production and also make the car affordable by subsidizing it, just like MTN mobile network rate came down after the introduction of GLO
but the FG is nt ready to support innoson
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by blazer234: 7:31am On Feb 20, 2016
Elosky20:
j
Let me explain as briefly as possible.
The product that fuels our economy is petroleum. bt it is quite unfortunate that this product has lost its international value. Leading to dollar scarcity in CBN. nw for nigeria to manage this situation.
the Cbn stopped allocating money to the bereau the change operators and pegging the official price at 199=1 dollar. dis is to discourage the importation of products that can be produced in nigeria, e.g toothpick, biscuit, cars and petroleum. forcing marketer to buy made in naija product, this will force other countries to import frm nigeria, and also come and establish their company in nigeria because it will be cheaper to invest in nigeria. nw if this is done nigeria will nw fuel their economy via exportation of agricultural and local products. there by reducing the stress of competing with bigger economies like usa and Uk for foreign product like phone, cars and fuel. which is making our naira to fall.
The bottom line is that nigeria wants to go into INDUSTRALIZATION which is nw helping CHINA.
Do you realize that this country is not producing those things needed for commercial agriculture and industrialization? We need to buy those things from abroad and we will have to buy expensively. At the end of the day, those things we produce will still sell expensively.

And it is bureau de change, not bureau the....
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by fastlane84: 7:32am On Feb 20, 2016
Elosky20:
j
Let me explain as briefly as possible.
The product that fuels our economy is petroleum. bt it is quite unfortunate that this product has lost its international value. Leading to dollar scarcity in CBN. nw for nigeria to manage this situation.
the Cbn stopped allocating money to the bereau the change operators and pegging the official price at 199=1 dollar. dis is to discourage the importation of products that can be produced in nigeria, e.g toothpick, biscuit, cars and petroleum. forcing marketer to buy made in naija product, this will force other countries to import frm nigeria, and also come and establish their company in nigeria because it will be cheaper to invest in nigeria. nw if this is done nigeria will nw fuel their economy via exportation of agricultural and local products. there by reducing the stress of competing with bigger economies like usa and Uk for foreign product like phone, cars and fuel. which is making our naira to fall.
The bottom line is that nigeria wants to go into INDUSTRALIZATION which is nw helping CHINA.
But do we have the enabling environment to manufacture? I feel its way cheaper to import than to produce(eg. petroleum products)
Re: Let Naira Fall So That Nigeria May Rise-seun by Elosky20: 8:38am On Feb 20, 2016
blazer234:
Do you realize that this country is not producing those things needed for commercial agriculture and industrialization? We need to buy those things from abroad and we will have to buy expensively. At the end of the day, those things we produce will still sell expensively.

And it is bureau de change, not bureau the....
nobody is buying expensively. the fund for the machines will be released at the official rate of N197 to $1 by the CBN since we dont have import restriction on them, since there is no alternative in nigeria.
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