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gemale:
It's nt an issue of winning or losing. It's an issue of enlightenment & deeper realization of D mysteries of God revealed thru d Catholic church. Grab a copy of the catechism of D Catholic church & read it. Then u shall know she is indeed d bride of Christ.

The Roman Catholic Church is the apostate church and the papacy is the beast being talked about in Revelations and Daniel.
"...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev. 18:4

There is still chance for you to leave the apostate church and worship GOD in truth and in spirit.

Babacele:
There is nothing epic here . Catholics honor Mary in fulfilment of a bible prophesy where Angel Gabriel said all generation shall call her blessed. isn't Catholics that generation prophesied? Going a lil back, her cousin Elizabeth n her baby ,John the Baptist, in d womb felt the spirit of God which Mary carried .... the full story isn't from our imagination but in the bible. And besides ,when God judges the world what has religion got to do with it?

Rev. 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and HONOUR and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created"

GOD will never share the glory and honour that belongs solely to Him with Mary (a creature) or anybody. The good life Mary lived is there for us to emulate, but not even an iota of GOD's honour is to be shared with any man. Isa. 42:8 "I am the LORD: That is my name: and My Glory will I not give to another, neither my name to graven images". AMEN!

It wouldn't take much research to discover that the worship of Mary by the catholics is a pagan practice (mother and child worship) having its roots in ancient Babylon. This is the same Church that has succeeded in leading millions astray and is bent on distorting the word of GOD. They claim that all their polluted and filthy practices have origins in the bible, "Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof..." 2 Tim 3:5. They would hide the truth from their congregation and teach them all sorts of lies and deceptions from the devil. "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:8-9.

Come out of the apostate church, my people.

Happy Sabbath.

DoctorAlien:
The Roman Catholic Church is the apostate church and the papacy is the beast being talked about in Revelations and Daniel.
"...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev. 18:4

There is still chance for you to leave the apostate church and worship GOD in truth and in spirit.

A church wt Christ as her founder is apostate & d papacy dt traces its origins 2 Simon Peter appointed by Jesus Christ is d antichrist? B careful dt u dnt bcom lyk d pharisees who called Jesus "belzebuub" & u don't commit d sin of apostasy & blasphemy. I have searched far & wide even 1ce abandoning d Catholic faith bt my search 4 d truth led me back 2 her.

gemale:
A church wt Christ as her founder is apostate & d papacy dt traces its origins 2 Simon Peter appointed by Jesus Christ is d antichrist? B careful dt u dnt bcom lyk d pharisees who called Jesus "belzebuub" & u don't commit d sin of apostasy & blasphemy. I have searched far & wide even 1ce abandoning d Catholic faith bt my search 4 d truth led me back 2 her.

The same papacy that has persecuted the saints of GOD throughout the dark ages? Killing and maiming as many as would not yield to it's polluted and adulterated mode of worship? I reject the notion that the papacy is founded on GOD's word. Research and see for yourself what the papacy has been doing.

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitteth in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is GOD" 2 Thess. 2:3-4

It is no longer news that the pope claims to be GOD. Meanwhile, the word "pope" translates "father". Catholics even go to the extent of attaching "Holy" to it. Here are Jesus' words: "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heaven" Matt. 23:9

DoctorAlien:
It wouldn't take much research to discover that the worship of Mary by the catholics is a pagan practice (mother and child worship) having its roots in ancient Babylon. This is the same Church that has succeeded in leading millions astray and is bent on distorting the word of GOD. They claim that all their polluted and filthy practices have origins in the bible, "Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof..." 2 Tim 3:5. They would hide the truth from their congregation and teach them all sorts of lies and deceptions from the devil. "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:8-9.

Come out of the apostate church, my people.

Hw many tyms wld I say Catholics honor Mary nt worship her? D only reason y most Pentecostals mistake devotion 2 Mary by Catholics 4 worship is because many of dem worship God superficially. D honor we give Mary (mother of God), some of u give ur "mummy GO". All ur allegations r malicious & baseless. U speak of doctrine of men being taught by d Catholic church. Pls who preaches dis?
1. If u drink alcohol (no mata hw little), u wld end up on hell (distorting d word of God dt showed dt Jesus drank wine an alcoholic beverage while on earth)
2. If u don't pay ur tithe, u can't make heaven (something Jesus neva taught dt was only used in mosaic tyms 2 provide 4 d levites who weren't given any possessions in d promised land)
3. Wt abt dt Tanzanian pastor dt has 2 b carried abt when preaching?
4. If a woman uses hair extensions, earrings, bangles etc she wld go 2 hell.
5. Television watching is evil (deeper life)
6. Blood transfusion is evil (Jehovah's witnesses)
7. Men r nt supposed 2 wear shorts in church.
8. Wearing of jeans is evil.
9. Women r nt supposed 2 wear trousers.
& dis is just d tip of D iceberg. I've nt carried out sufficient research in dis area.

The truth is that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself "the mother church". She is indeed a mother. Let's see what type of mother GOD calls her: "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH". Rev. 17:5

There you have it. The truth is that all the churches still having elements of the doctrines (including Sunday worship) of the catholic church are harlots. The catholic church is the mother harlot. The Bible said it.

There is still a Church Holy and true to GOD, not polluted with the filthy abominations of the catholic church, "...they that keep the Commandments of GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

DoctorAlien:
The same papacy that has persecuted the saints of GOD throughout the dark ages? Killing and maiming as many as would not yield to it's polluted and adulterated mode of worship? I reject the notion that the papacy is founded on GOD's word. Research and see for yourself what the papacy has been doing.

Yes certain actions by d papacy 2 discourage schism were very overzealous. Bt u only need 2 look @ d havoc wrecked by pple lyk Jim Jones & a cohort of oda schismists 2 understand wt dey were trying 2 prevent. Most of those pple u called Saints were agents of disobedience & rebellion (almost similar 2 hw lucifer tried 2 war against God's authority). Their mission was 2 sow d tares of disunity in d body of Christ. C Pentecostalism 2day. U all claim 2 b under d guidance of D Holy spirit yet u have no unity. Confusion & strife reigns supreme in ur midst. U can't even teach d same things. One pastor says 1 thing has been revealed 2 him by d Holy Spirit only 4 anoda apostle claiming 2 b under d guidance of D same Holy spirit contradicts him. Is dt how God's spirit works? Is dis wt Jesus envisioned when he prayed dt His followers shld b one as He & d Father r 1? Answer.

When Jesus was told His mother was looking for Him, what was His reply? "...My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of GOD, and do it." Luke 8:21

Those are truly the mother of GOD.

Come out of the apostate Church, my people.

Yes, Jesus wishes that all who follow him would be one (Jn. 17:21). However, He wishes that they be one in doing the will of GOD and serving GOD in truth and in spirit, not in an abominable way. The Roman Catholic Church has "become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird" Rev. 18:2 GOD is now saying, "...Come out of her, my people..." Rev. 18:4

DoctorAlien:
The truth is that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself "the mother church". She is indeed a mother. Let's see what type of mother GOD calls her: "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH". Rev. 17:5

There you have it. The truth is that all the churches still having elements of the doctrines (including Sunday worship) of the catholic church are harlots. The catholic church is the mother harlot. The Bible said it.

There is still a Church Holy and true to GOD, not polluted with the filthy abominations of the catholic church, "...they that keep the Commandments of GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

I take it dt u r a 7th day adventist. Let me ask a question. On what day did Jesus resurrection 4rm d dead? Was it nt d day after d Sabbath (Sunday)? So u now c y d Sabbath was moved. We xtians r a pple of D new, everlasting covenant nt tethered 2 D imperfect Abrahamic & mosaic covenant. So we can't worship God on d day Jesus wrought such a great victory 4 us

DoctorAlien:
The truth is that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself "the mother church". She is indeed a mother. Let's see what type of mother GOD calls her: "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH". Rev. 17:5

There you have it. The truth is that all the churches still having elements of the doctrines (including Sunday worship) of the catholic church are harlots. The catholic church is the mother harlot. The Bible said it.

There is still a Church Holy and true to GOD, not polluted with the filthy abominations of the catholic church, "...they that keep the Commandments of GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

I take it dt u r a 7th day adventist. Let me ask a question. On what day did Jesus resurrect 4rm d dead? Was it nt d day after d Sabbath (Sunday)? So u now c y d Sabbath was moved. We xtians r a pple of D new, everlasting covenant nt tethered 2 D imperfect Abrahamic & mosaic covenant. So we can't worship God on d day Jesus wrought such a great victory 4 us a victory over d sting of death. I give u d reply of Jesus 2 D pharisees "Sabbath was made 4 man & nt man 4 d Sabbath".

gemale:
I take it dt u r a 7th day adventist. Let me ask a question. On what day did Jesus resurrect 4rm d dead? Was it nt d day after d Sabbath (Sunday)? So u now c y d Sabbath was moved. We xtians r a pple of D new, everlasting covenant nt tethered 2 D imperfect Abrahamic & mosaic covenant. So we can't worship God on d day Jesus wrought such a great victory 4 us a victory over d sting of death. I give u d reply of Jesus 2 D pharisees "Sabbath was made 4 man & nt man 4 d Sabbath".

Please give me a specific verse in the Bible where GOD nullified the Saturday Sabbath and commanded us to now keep Sunday holy. Who asked Roman Catholics to keep Saturday? Was it GOD? Was it Jesus?

And yes, I'm a Seventh-Day Adventist.

As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ was killed on a Friday, he rested in the tomb (observed the Sabbath) on Saturday and rose up on Sunday. This is a mystery.

All through Jesus' life on earth, He kept the Saturday Sabbath (Luke 4:16). So at what point were we commanded to abandon the Sabbath of GOD and now keep Sunday?

DoctorAlien:
Please give me a specific verse in the Bible where GOD nullified the Saturday Sabbath and commanded us to now keep Sunday holy. Who asked Roman Catholics to keep Saturday? Was it GOD? Was it Jesus?

And yes, I'm a Seventh-Day Adventist.

Guy Saturday or Sunday is immaterial 2 God. Where in d bible did God specify Saturday or Sunday? It was d Jews dt did dt. U r hyping dis mata d way d pharisees did doing wt Jesus accused d pharisees of "laying heavy burdens on men & nt lending a finger 2 lift it". Tell me did Jesus ever nullify circumcision? & yet d apostles did away wt it as a prerequisite 4 salvation.

gemale:
Guy Saturday or Sunday is immaterial 2 God. Where in d bible did God specify Saturday or Sunday? It was d Jews dt did dt. U r hyping dis mata d way d pharisees did doing wt Jesus accused d pharisees of "laying heavy burdens on men & nt lending a finger 2 lift it". Tell me did Jesus ever nullify circumcision? & yet d apostles did away wt it as a prerequisite 4 salvation.

Exod. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy...But the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy GOD..."

At the risk of being termed a legalist, I wish to make it known that the Sabbath is very important to GOD. We all know the seventh day is Saturday. It was the day in which the LORD rested, and He blessed and hallowed it.

Let me ask you a question: Have we done away with the 10 commandments? Are Christians no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments?

As regarding circumcision, we all know that is not a part of the 10 Commandments. We are advised to "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no longer stiffnecked" Deut. 10:16

Don't be stiffnecked any longer concerning the will of GOD for you. He loves you and wants you to walk in His ways. If you hear his word and invitation today, "Do not harden your heart..." Psa. 95:8 It is the will of GOD that we dedicate ourselves pure and living sacrifices to Him, for that is true worship.

DoctorAlien:
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitteth in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is GOD" 2 Thess. 2:3-4

It is no longer news that the pope claims to be GOD. Meanwhile, the word "pope" translates "father". Catholics even go to the extent of attaching "Holy" to it. Here are Jesus' words: "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heaven" Matt. 23:9

So what if pope means father? When u call ur "daddy GO" "our father in the Lord ", r u sinning? He is referred 2 as holy nt because he is incapable of sinning bt by d grace of God bestowed on his office (kind of similar 2 immunity clause held by d president doesn't still mean he's above d law). After all by virtue of Jesus Christ's sacrifice, r we nt made holy? D pope is nt referred 2 as God in d Catholic church. God is God & no man can take His worship. I sense a lot of pple on NL hate d Catholic church dt exists in their imagination. Instead of confirming d rumors dey hear or d doubts in their minds 4rm a knowledgeable Catholic or a priest, dey concoct fallacies, quasi truths @ best (outright falsehood most tyms) & conspiracy theories 2 back their irrational hatred 4 d Catholic church.

DoctorAlien:
Exod. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy...But the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy GOD..."

At the risk of being termed a legalist, I wish to make it known that the Sabbath is very important to GOD. We all know the seventh day is Saturday. It was the day in which the LORD rested, and He blessed and hallowed it.

Let me ask you a question: Have we done away with the 10 commandments? Are Christians no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments?

God is spirit & therefore transcends d boundaries of tym. Night is d same as day 2 Him as r tyms & seasons. As 4 d 7th day, it is relative 2 humans 4 instance in France, Sunday is considered d 7th day (their week begins on Monday). Dts y Jesus said dt God is spirit & dey dt worship Him must do so in spirit and truth. Didn't Jesus go harvesting ears of corn on d Sabbath going against d stipulation dt 1 shldnt work in d Sabbath day?

DoctorAlien:
As regarding circumcision, we all know that is not a part of the 10 Commandments. We are advised to "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no longer stiffnecked" Deut. 10:16

Don't be stiffnecked any longer concerning the will of GOD for you. He loves you and wants you to walk in His ways. If you hear his word and invitation today, "Do not harden your heart..." Psa. 95:8 It is the will of GOD that we dedicate ourselves pure and living sacrifices to Him, for that is true worship.

Didn't God order dt any male nt circumcised shld b cut off (ostracized) 4rm d pple of God?

DoctorAlien:
Rev. 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and HONOUR and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created"

GOD will never share the glory and honour that belongs solely to Him with Mary (a creature) or anybody. The good life Mary lived is there for us to emulate, but not even an iota of GOD's honour is to be shared with any man. Isa. 42:8 "I am the LORD: That is my name: and My Glory will I not give to another, neither my name to graven images". AMEN!

....and the same God said all generations shall call Mary blessed?

gemale:
God is spirit & therefore transcends d boundaries of tym. Night is d same as day 2 Him as r tyms & seasons. As 4 d 7th day, it is relative 2 humans 4 instance in France, Sunday is considered d 7th day (their week begins on Monday). Dts y Jesus said dt God is spirit & dey dt worship Him must do so in spirit and truth. Didn't Jesus go harvesting ears of corn on d Sabbath going against d stipulation dt 1 shldnt work in d Sabbath day?

How long will you continue to harden your heart? And you have not answered my question: Are we no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments? Secondly, can you provide just one verse in the Bible where GOD commanded us to now forget His Sabbath and keep the Sabbath of the beast ( Sunday)?

Babacele:
....and the same God said all generations shall call Mary blessed?

Yea, as a matter of fact, many people were called blessed by GOD. Blessed are the meek, pure in heart, poor in spirit, merciful. Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly. GOD had this to say of John the Baptist: "Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women (including Mary) there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he." Matt. 11:11 (emphasis added). Anybody can decide those words are strong enough to make it necessary to ascribe worship
to John the baptist. But is that the case?

Those that worship GOD must worship Him in truth and in Spirit, not in a filthy and abominable way, practicing all forms of deceptions and falsehood.

gemale:
God is spirit & therefore transcends d boundaries of tym. Night is d same as day 2 Him as r tyms & seasons. As 4 d 7th day, it is relative 2 humans 4 instance in France, Sunday is considered d 7th day (their week begins on Monday). Dts y Jesus said dt God is spirit & dey dt worship Him must do so in spirit and truth. Didn't Jesus go harvesting ears of corn on d Sabbath going against d stipulation dt 1 shldnt work in d Sabbath day?

Read Matt. 12:1-8 and understand. Are you trying to imply that Jesus committed sin by breaking the Sabbath? What is sin? "...sin is the transgression of the law" 1 Jn. 3:4. That is the Bible definition of sin.

No matter how much you try to bend and twist and distort and resist the word of GOD to suit yourself, the fact remains that GOD's word cannot be changed. Let no man deceive you; GOD knows those who are His. Come out of the apostate church, my people. GOD's merciful arms are wide open.

DoctorAlien:
How long will you continue to harden your heart? And you have not answered my question: Are we no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments? Secondly, can you provide just one verse in the Bible where GOD commanded us to now forget His Sabbath and keep the Sabbath of the beast ( Sunday)?

How does 1 keep d Sabbath holy? Isn't it by worshipping God, gathering as believers & doing good 2 our fellow man? Do we do dt? Yes. So isn't dt d aim of D Sabbath? As long as we do dt, I don't think God has any qualms wt it being a Saturday or Sunday.

DoctorAlien:
Read Matt. 12:1-8 and understand. Are you trying to imply that Jesus committed sin by breaking the Sabbath? What is sin? "...sin is the transgression of the law" 1 Jn. 3:4. That is the Bible definition of sin.

No matter how much you try to bend and twist and distort and resist the word of GOD to suit yourself, the fact remains that GOD's word cannot be changed. Let no man deceive you; GOD knows those who are His. Come out of the apostate church, my people. GOD's merciful arms are wide open.

D fact is as long as u serve God in spirit & truth, whether u celebrate ur Sabbath on a Sunday or Saturday is immaterial.

DoctorAlien:
How long will you continue to harden your heart? And you have not answered my question: Are we no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments? Secondly, can you provide just one verse in the Bible where GOD commanded us to now forget His Sabbath and keep the Sabbath of the beast ( Sunday)?

By d way, do u know d 10 commandments weren't d only laws handed 2 D jews by God? Y don't u wear 1 material of clothing alone (mosaic laws state dt u shldnt mix 2 materials eggs cotton & wool 2geda). Y don't we celebrate d passover? Even Paul did. Y don't we still keep slaves & free dem after a while according 2 mosaic laws). Jesus redefined d law giving us 2 laws (love of God & of neighbors). I don't c hw shifting d Sabbath 4rm Saturday 2 Sunday goes against dt.

gemale:
How does 1 keep d Sabbath holy? Isn't it by worshipping God, gathering as believers & doing good 2 our fellow man? Do we do dt? Yes. So isn't dt d aim of D Sabbath? As long as we do dt, I don't think God has any qualms wt it being a Saturday or Sunday.

You want to know how to keep the Sabbath holy? The bible tells you: Ex. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy GOD: in it thou shalt not do any work..."

It is simply a day in which we leave worldy pursuit and commune with GOD as we remember that He created all things in six days and rested on the seventh.

The eternal law of GOD is immutable; it can never be twisted. GOD is very specific; He requires that you keep the seventh day Holy to Him. He didn't say you should choose the day to keep Holy. As a matter of fact, GOD BLESSED and HALLOWED the seventh day. He didn't hallow any other day.

gemale:
By d way, do u know d 10 commandments weren't d only laws handed 2 D jews by God? Y don't u wear 1 material of clothing alone (mosaic laws state dt u shldnt mix 2 materials eggs cotton & wool 2geda). Y don't we celebrate d passover? Even Paul did. Y don't we still keep slaves & free dem after a while according 2 mosaic laws). Jesus redefined d law giving us 2 laws (love of God & of neighbors). I don't c hw shifting d Sabbath 4rm Saturday 2 Sunday goes against dt.

It is expedient at this point that we make a clear divide between the two sets of laws GOD gave to the Israelites. The divine law of GOD, which He wrote with His own fingers is the 10 Commandments. It is different from the (over 600) ceremonial laws, which He gave to them, all of which were pointing to the sacrificial work of Christ, and were ended as soon as Christ rose from the dead. The 10 Commandments are the standard by which GOD judges the whole universe. They were there before creation.