raumdeuter:


If Sanchez starts the match as a LW and during the game moves to right position permanently, a tool that you are would insist Sanchez played as a Left winger just because he was listed as a winger
in Kano

So okazaki moved permanently to the midfield against man city and yet he was addressed as vardy's strike partner ? You are now sounding pathetic.

raumdeuter:


All your entire knowledge you have you still cant make any reasonable football argument

ANY one. All you can do effectively is post pictures and like posts. BTW are you the poster Elfenomeno1 refers to as Akindanidani? If you are then I have to credit Doyin for getting one thing right at last

Am i supposed to be impressed?? Or is u mentioning elfeminine supposed to make me afraid?? I've seen primary school children drop doper lines!!

For all ur football knowledge, u dont know that Okazaki is a Leicester City Striker. Ignorance is really a terrible disease!!

raumdeuter:


Dindinrin Pataki.

Tell us the gathering of foolss you attended where they compared Fuchs with Alaba

Oponu, I know your diversionary tactics. The more you keep spewing foolishness, the easier it is for everyone to see you are looking for straws to grasp and wriggle your way out of the foolish trap you set for yourself.

Every tactics you have employed has failed. Tactics such as asking AdeLaNa to engage you. Tactics such as posting Spy's comment from the Chelsea thread here to derail the trap, posting foolish commentaries that no one is interested in, barking foolishly, ignoring your tutors, etc.

The discourse centers on your pillar of stupidity that you have erected.

What position does Okazaki play for Leicester City? Oponu afofun.

Pataki:


Oponu, I know your diversionary tactics. The more you keep spewing foolishness, the easier it is for everyone to see you are looking for straws to grasp and wriggle your way out of the foolish trap you set for yourself.

Every tactics you have employed has failed. Tactics such as asking AdeLaNa to engage you. Tactics such as posting Spy's comment from the Chelsea thread here to derail the trap, posting foolish commentaries that no one is interested in, barking foolishly, ignoring your tutors, etc.

The discourse centers on your pillar of stupidity that you have erected.

What position does Okazaki play for Leicester City? Oponu afofun.

I have never shied away from my own statement

Dindinrin pataki, Its time for you to defend your morronic statement above

Pataki:
[size=18pt]The same Fuchs is now being compared to your own David Olatokunbo Alaba in the football world with arguments for and against as to why he is better[/size]. You are really a dunce analyst.

raumdeuter:


1.Samuel Etoo is a striker but while at Inter Milan he played more as a winger. If Samuel Etoo was playing as a winger what role would you say he played in the match? His natural role (striker) or the role he plays for the team on that day (Winger)

2. Carrick played as a Central defender, So would you say because Carrick is a midfielder, In the games he played as a Defender, Was he playing midfield?

3. Okazaki while a striker, In games drops to the 10 position and for the purpose of that game makes him a midfielder
Its basic logic

I'll just concentrate my rebuttal on the enumerated points in your post as they'll cover the rest of your post that I cut out.

Now, I think what's confusing you, or better still, what you are using to hang on to that faint hope that you are right are the words - PLAYED and DROPS. The clues you are missing are right there in your posts.

Number 1 and 2, you used the word "played" for Eto'o and Carrick examples. See, when a striker (or even a goalie or any other player) plays a particular position other than his normal position in any match, the player assumes that particular position for that match (or number of matches he played there). E.g Eto'o played predominantly as a winger at Inter but he's generally known as a striker. The number of matches or seasons he played as a winger didn't change his GENERAL natural position as a STRIKER. Same thing can be said for Carrick. Carrick is a midfielder, but on any match he played as a CB, you'll hear words like "the Manchester United MIDFIELDER played as a CB for United in so, so and so match."

Now on Number 3, what you are missing is the meaning of the word DROP as you used it. Like you and every site plus other commenters had said, Okazaki DROPS into the midfield to support in defensive duties not Okazaki PLAYED in the midfield. When a players DROPS into another position in any time in a match, it doesn't change his position for that match, e.g Rooney constantly droping into the midfield while as being a striker. So Okazaki DROPPING into the midfield when they are being pressed or defending, doesn't change his position as a striker. As matter of fact, it's one of his duties as a SS in a 4-4-2 formation like Pataki and Airmark had shown you with numerous screenshots. Okazaki is preforming his duty as a SS by DROPPING into the midfield!! Very easy argument.


If Carrick DROPS into the CB position if any of our CB surges forward in order to prevent a counter-attack, he's not a CB, he only DROPPED into the CB position not PLAYED there. What's confusing you is played and dropped. If you say you are right, that means the link you posted (which recognized Okazaki's dropping into the MF but still called him a FORWARD), every football link plus everyone is wrong and ONLY you is right. Na wa o.

AdeLaNa1:
Am i supposed to be impressed?? Or is u mentioning elfeminine supposed to make me afraid?? I've seen primary school children drop doper lines!!

For all ur football knowledge, u dont know that Okazaki is a Leicester City Striker. Ignorance is really a terrible disease!!

Go play somewhere I'm busy

raumdeuter:


Your foolishness can sink the titanic

Does it matter where he starts or where he moves to during the match?

If Sanchez starts the match as a LW and during the game moves to right position permanently, a tool that you are would insist Sanchez played as a Left winger just because he was listed as a winger

You have eyes and you cant see whats happening on the field to analyze. Opolo e ti yoro like condense in Kano

MOVES in this aspect is different from DROPPING into another position. And any good site will give an analysis like; "He started from the left wing before MOVING (not dropping) to the right wing". And it still wouldn't change the fact that he's a WINGER.

sinizia:


I'll just concentrate my rebuttal on the enumerated points in your post as they'll cover the rest of your post that I cut out.
.

My initial statement was something in the line of "Okazaki does not play as THE STRIKER in Leicester"

We have seen evidence now that Okazaki in games drops into midfield which makes my assertion correct that he doesnt play as the striker

If I say Etoo does not play as THE striker in Inter Milan then would you say "everyone knows Etoo is a striker and I would do like airmark to show you his personal profile which shows he is a striker?

sinizia:


MOVES in this aspect is different from DROPPING into another position. And any good site will give an analysis like; "He started from the left wing before MOVING (not dropping) to the right wing". And it still wouldn't change the fact that he's a WINGER.

You are simply playing with words

Drops means Move Backwards because they are refering to the orientation of the field

Drop here is synonymous with Switch to right side which is another variant of moving

And if a player moves forward he can be said to :advance" E.d Ozil advanced to the striker position which means he MOVED forward

Moves and drop in this context mean the same thing

If Saches Switch to the right win aka moves to the right wng during a game, Then you would be right to say Sanchez is a left winger. You would only refer to him in the context of where he played during the game

raumdeuter:


My initial statement was something in the line of "Okazaki does not play as THE STRIKER in Leicester"

We have seen evidence now that Okazaki in games drops into midfield which makes my assertion correct that he doesnt play as the striker

If I say Etoo does not play as THE striker in Inter Milan then would you say "everyone knows Etoo is a striker and I would do like airmark to show you his stats which shows he is a striker?

May sango drown you in molten furnace for this blatant lie!!

Do you think you are with your akengbe-elemu palmwine drunkards at taki? ?

May witloe afflict those fingers wey you take type those lies above!!

raumdeuter:


My initial statement was something in the line of "Okazaki does not play as THE STRIKER in Leicester"

We have seen evidence now that Okazaki in games drops into midfield which makes my assertion correct that he doesnt play as the striker

If I say Etoo does not play as THE striker in Inter Milan then would you say "everyone knows Etoo is a striker and I would do like airmark to show you his personal profile which shows he is a striker?

Immediately you saw you goofed after i quoted you, you edited it. Even at that you said ulloa and vardy are the strikers not vardy and okazaki. I know your tricks . just accept you goofed and goof no more. Below was what you typed before you edited it. Ramuzaki like you.

raumdeuter:


Go play somewhere I'm busy

Busy getting ur ass kicked by Pataki and Airmark!!

Dadehmola:


May sango drown you in molten furnace for this blatant lie!!

Do you think you are with your akengbe-elemu palmwine drunkards at taki? ?

May witloe afflict those fingers wey you take type those lies above!!

Just saw your post after i posted mine. Dayo is an idiot.

AdeLaNa1:
Busy getting ur ass kicked by Pataki and Airmark!!

Why not by you. Why cant you be proud of yourself for once. It has to be you referring to someone

Did you get an education to be someones boy boy

Dadehmola:
May sango drown you in molten furnace for this blatant lie!!

Do you think you are with your akengbe-elemu palmwine drunkards at taki? ?

May witloe afflict those fingers wey you take type those lies above!!

Whats the meaning of this claptrap you just posted. Seems your brain is losing power. Go take some alabukun before I continue drumming sense into your thick skull

raumdeuter:


My initial statement was something in the line of "Okazaki does not play as THE STRIKER in Leicester"

We have seen evidence now that Okazaki in games drops into midfield which makes my assertion correct that he doesnt play as the striker

If I say Etoo does not play as THE striker in Inter Milan then would you say "everyone knows Etoo is a striker and I would do like airmark to show you his personal profile which shows he is a striker?

Well, in a 4-4-2 formation, they are two strikers. Vardy is the main striker, while Okazaki is the supporting striker. The tag of "striker" still hangs on him irrespective of him not being "the striker" in your argument.


If the whole argument was whether Okazaki drops into the midfield, I don't even think anyone would argue it. From what I read (I didn't start from the root of the whole argument), it's Okazaki's POSITION that's the bone of contention not whether he drops into the midfield which I think everyone had agree to.

If you say Eto'o didn't play as "the striker" in Inter Milan, to be frank with you, I will say Eto'o is naturally a striker but I'll add that he PLAYED PREDOMINANTLY in the wings at Inter Milan."


It's like Mascherano, he PLAYS predominantly as a CB for Barca, but as a DM for his country and his past clubs. So while he PLAYS as a CB for Barca, his past will always make him to be GENERALLY recognized as a DM.

Philipp Lahm will be the 2nd German player with the most number of appearances in UCL (100) after Oliver Kahn 103 appearances.

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb2Hb8zW0AENIhn.jpg:large[/img]

raumdeuter:


I have never shied away from my own statement

Dindinrin pataki, Its time for you to defend your morronic statement above

What is morronic in Alaba and Fuchs comparison? What is wrong with you? Are you really this resoundingly daft? They both play in the left side of defence, and they are both Austrians. What is more morronic is how you have foolishly for months compared Alago with Terry on this board.

http://www.goal-247.com/ComparePlayers/1839/1772/Christian-Fuchs/David-Alaba

https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/19ll4p/this_is_my_bundesliga_team_is_alaba_better_than/

Oponu, now lets get back to OKA101.

raumdeuter:



Why not by you. Why cant you be proud of yourself for once. It has to be you referring to someone

Did you get an education to be someones boy boy

Lool! If u had any sense, u'd notice that boy boy doesn't even apply to this current situation!! Besides, I dont ve time to indulge u in long unending arguments this nite!! Some of us are way too busy to be waiting around for aguments on online forums. And if u actually read with ur eyes open, u'd notice that u hardly see my moniker on this thread!!! I have no business with una e-fights for this place!!

Prophet Pataki and Woli agba Airmark abeg keep doing the Lord's work!!



Goodnight!!

sinizia:
Well, in a 4-4-2 formation, they are two strikers. Vardy is the main striker, while Okazaki is the supporting striker. The tag of "striker" still hangs on him irrespective of him not being "the striker" in your argument.


If the whole argument was whether Okazaki drops into the midfield, I don't even think anyone would argue it. From what I read (I didn't start from the root of the whole argument), it's Okazaki's POSITION that's the bone of contention not whether he drops into the midfield which I think everyone had agree to.

If you say Eto'o didn't play as "the striker" in Inter Milan, to be frank with you, I will say Eto'o is naturally a striker but I'll add that he PLAYED PREDOMINANTLY in the wings at Inter Milan."

It's like Mascherano, he PLAYS predominantly as a CB for Barca, but as a DM for his country and his past clubs. So while he PLAYS as a CB for Barca, his past will always make him to be GENERALLY recognized as a DM.

It was until I schooled them enough and timbross brought out the link before they agreed that Okazaki drops into midfield. Its not the formation that matters because formation are very fluid, Its where you actually play during the game that counts. And Okazaki for the game in question played to the midfield.

Barcelona under Pep would start 4-3-3 but after a while Alves would move so forward as a winger. If you should say Alves was playing as a winger in the game a foool like airfart would start posting pictures of their starting formation

Most of these illiterates like airfart would just go post his biodata that calls him a striker

Which is why I asked if you say Etoo didnt play as striker in Inter, Which is 100% correct. For an inherently stupid person like airmark, He would post his biodata page which would call him a striker to refute his argument instead of opening his eye to watch the game

AdeLaNa1:
Lool! If u had any sense, u'd notice that boy boy doesn't even apply to this current situation!! Besides, I dont ve time to indulge u in long unending arguments this nite!! Some of us are way too busy to be waiting around for aguments on online forums. And if u actually read with ur eyes open, u'd notice that u hardly see my moniker on this thread!!! I have no business with una e-fights for this place!!

Prophet Pataki and Woli agba Airmark abeg keep doing the Lord's work!!

Goodnight!!

Make your own argument. Your argument starts and stops with airmark and patakai are already doing it for me? Have you outsourced reasoning to them?

raumdeuter:


You are simply playing with words

Drops means Move Backwards because they are refering to the orientation of the field

Drop here is synonymous with Switch to right side which is another variant of moving

And if a player moves forward he can be said to :advance" E.d Ozil advanced to the striker position which means he MOVED forward

Moves and drop in this context mean the same thing

If Saches Switch to the right win aka moves to the right wng during a game, Then you would be right to say Sanchez is a left winger. You would only refer to him in the context of where he played during the game

Egbami!! My God!! Raumdeuter, you must be Amalinze The Cat, that Achebe talked about.

How can a left winger DROP (move backward) to a ANOTHER WING?

Is the wing BEHIND him (where the word DROP would have been effectively used) or BESIDE him ( where the word SWITCH (as you even said) would be effectively be used?




Haba, Dayokanu, you don pass all these diversionary moves abeg. Stop this argument.

Players SWITCH to flanks (wing) not DROP into them. Haba!!

Ramuzaki, airmark, Seun, et al,

Antispam don ban Pataki.

Whoever is the moderator should please release Pataki.

OKA101 must continue.

With kind regards,

Prof. Pataki.

raumdeuter:


And if a player moves forward he can be said to :advance" E.d Ozil advanced to the striker position which means he MOVED forward

Ehen. So if Ozil ADVANCED to a striker position during some point in a match, does that mean his position is a STRIKING? Does it change the fact that he's NOT a striker despite ADVANCING to a STRIKER's position? You see why I said you can't wriggle your way out of this argument?

Dadehmola:


May sango drown you in molten furnace for this blatant lie!!

Do you think you are with your akengbe-elemu palmwine drunkards at taki? ?

May witloe afflict those fingers wey you take type those lies above!!

airmark:




Immediately you saw you goofed after i quoted you, you edited it. Even at that you said ulloa and vardy are the strikers not vardy and okazaki. I know your tricks . just accept you goofed and goof no more. Below was what you typed before you edited it. Ramuzaki like you.

Busted!!

sinizia:


Egbami!! My God!! Raumdeuter, you must be Amalinze The Cat, that Achebe talked about.

How can a left winger DROP (move backward) to a ANOTHER WING?

Is the wing BEHIND him (where the word DROP would have been effectively used) or BESIDE him ( where the word SWITCH (as you even said) would be effectively be used?

Haba, Dayokanu, you don pass all these diversionary moves abeg. Stop this argument.

Players SWITCH to flanks (wing) not DROP into them. Haba!!

relax and pay attention You are losing focus

I think you are losing point and resorting to diversionary tactics

Okazaki moved backwards to midfield aka Okazaki dropped to midfield

Sanches moved to the right aka Sanchez switched to the right

Ozil moved forward ro the strikers position aka Ozil advanced to the striker position

I just proved to you that Drop" is a variation of "move". Using either of them doesnt take away anything from the statement

Let me know if anything still confuses you

sinizia:


Ehen. So if Ozil ADVANCED to a striker position during some point in a match, does that mean his position is a STRIKING? Does it change the fact that he's NOT a striker despite ADVANCING to a STRIKER's position? You see why I said you can't wriggle your way out of this argument?

If Ozil moved to the striker position that means for that game Ozil was a striker

If Sanchez moved to the right wing that means for that time he is a right winger

If Okazaki moved to the midfield that means for that game he is a midfielder

When Carrick moved to the defence for that game he was a defender, When Terry moved to the keepers position for that game he was the goalkeeper

raumdeuter:


relax and pay attention You are losing focus

I think you are losing point and resorting to diversionary tactics

Okazaki moved backwards aka he droppped

Sanches moved sideways aka he switched

OIzil moved forward aka he advanced

I just proved to you that Drop" is a variation of "move"

Let me know if anything still confuses you

Okay, but don't you think even though "drop" is a variation of move, pictorial evidences dropped by others and even by you, showed that the football sites and analysts in that SAME match still saw Okazaki as a striker, meaning his position as a striker didn't change in that SAME match?


It's different from SWITCHING to midfield and becoming a midfield in that SAME MATCH. Plus your argument which Airmark posted now showed you saying "Okazaki is not A striker for Leceister." Not even in that match.

sinizia:
Okay, but don't you think even though "drop" is a variation of move, pictorial evidences dropped by others and even by you, showed that the football sites and analysts in that SAME match still saw Okazaki as a striker, meaning his position as a striker didn't change in that SAME match?.

There is a position a 10 occupies on the field, A 10 is a midfielder, As shown conclusively by me, Okazaki was the one occupying that position during the game

It means for that game Okazaki was the 10. A midfielder

sinizia:

It's different from SWITCHING to midfield and becoming a midfield in that SAME MATCH. Plus your argument which Airmark posted now showed you saying "Okazaki is not A striker for Leceister." Not even in that match.

Forget whatever my argument with airmark is, He is known to be schizophrenic and not very stable

What is my argument with you and how are we progressing with that

raumdeuter:


There is a position a 10 occupies on the field, A 10 is a midfielder, As shown conclusively by me, Okazaki was the one occupying that position during the game

It means for that game Okazaki was the 10. A midfielder

But Okazaki does that job (occupying the 10 position especially when Leciester are defending) week in, week out, and yet he's recognized as striker. What seem to be the cause for that, then?

Or don't you feel it's a testament to the fact that he's a discplined SS in a 4-4-2 formation who can help out in the midfield in one minute and on the next minute he's in box of his opponent to help out with a striking job.


What I'll say is, in that 4-4-2 formation, even if he occupies the 10 position in the field, it still makes him a SS.

raumdeuter:


Forget whatever my argument with airmark is, He is known to be schizophrenic and not very stable

What is my argument with you and how are we progressing with that

@sinizia, i know you and others are smart to form a brilliant opinion from ramuzaki statement above. Dayo is a fraud. He wanted to engage you and screen out the fraud he committed. That's how unreal this nuccah could be.