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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:23am On Mar 06, 2016
snailspeed:


So why did you stop at 15k? Why didnt you just continue till you become the richest man in the world?
God forbid. 30k just for d moment. Just want to work dia for sum limited time before extablishin my own.
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:24am On Mar 06, 2016
emerged01:


I wonder o! It is my choice,my decision. If I decide to donate my salary,it is nobody's business.
Read again!
I never said you shouldn't tithe.
Just like I never said you shouldn't buy Gucci shoes!
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by seguno2: 11:24am On Mar 06, 2016
Btruth:
Aren't the Pastors the new Levites now?

Do Pastors fulfill the criteria, highlighted below for Levites in the Jewish nation of Israel?


Deuteronomy 14:

27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee. 28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates: 29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:24am On Mar 06, 2016
LEGALAide:

COMPLETE RUBBISH.
Christians keep deceiving themselves!
You don't give God to receive in return.
God is not a savings account!
You didn't get an increase because you tithed.
You must give not because God needs the money in order to have some money to increase!
Poor Christian beliefs.
Pathetic!
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Codyt(m): 11:24am On Mar 06, 2016
LEGALAide:

Well put.
However some men of *** threaten their members with Hell for not paying.
Well put once again.
Now that's where the problem lies. I can relate.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:26am On Mar 06, 2016
LEGALAide:

COMPLETE RUBBISH.
Christians keep deceiving themselves!
You don't give God to receive in return.
God is not a savings account!
You didn't get an increase because you tithed.
You must give not because God needs the money in order to have some money to increase!
Poor Christian beliefs.
Pathetic!
Rich christain i belive in giving. When i give, i recive and it works for me that way.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by seguno2: 11:26am On Mar 06, 2016
Manueleee:
God forbid. 30k just for d moment. Just want to work dia for sum limited time before extablishin my own.

Will it not be easier and faster for you to establish your own if you earn a bigger salary?
If you answer yes, then you should KEEP repeating/increasing your "magical" money-doubling tithe scheme so your salary keeps growing, not so?
Why won't you do that?
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:27am On Mar 06, 2016
1stCitizen:


It's not my fault that you cannot comprehend what Jesus said in the last sentence even after highlighting it for you.... and it is not my job to convince you otherwise. If you choose not to pay tithe how does that affect me

If I choose to pay how does it affect you?
Funny isn't it?
It's proof you can't answer a simple question.
Too bad!

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by snailspeed: 11:28am On Mar 06, 2016
seguno2:


Thanks.


Is this the standard of today's church?
Government's WELFARE programmes do this better and are financed by citizens paying their TAXES fully, readily and completely, not so?


It is clear that any true follower of Christ (Christian) must FIRST pay his taxes to government wholly and properly and THEREAFTER before any offering to God will be acceptable. To do otherwise is to be a pagan/ idol (man) worshiper.
Is that what we do

My people perish for lack of knowledge. Knowledge of the Word of God!

Honestly, I think you have muddled up a lot of things and have veered off on a tangent

There is no connection between paying your taxes to the government and giving in Christianity. I dont even know how you have attempted to connect it. It is totally strange

Secondly, giving to ceasar was because the Jews where in exile under the Roman empire. They wouldnt have needed to do that when they where in the land of Israel. It is always important you study the bible in context.

Thridly, the standard for the church is to give to meet the need of all. It isnt to give to enrich certain church leaders. The Jews did a collection in Jerusalam because at the time, they were all in one location. But after they were dispersed, they didnt necessarily gather in one location to collect the offerings. Some offerings were submitted in peoples houses and distributed. Others were given directly. There was no one method. The important thing was to give cheerfully, sacrificially but not of compulsion. And the goal was to meet the need of all, especially the orphans and the widows

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:29am On Mar 06, 2016
tombravo:
i was hoping id be the first to post abt tithing here. its all in d bible
Without a doubt it's in the Bible.
The same way the words "is", "when" and "was" are all in the Bible!
Just the same way!
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by seunmsg(m): 11:30am On Mar 06, 2016
1stCitizen:
The devil is very smart hence he may have pushed the Op to dedicate so much time and effort to post that long trash this early Sunday morning

Op so long as no one came to beg you for money to pay tithe I see no need for all the argument

If those that pay tithe receive no reward for it they will stop paying abi? After all their tithe no affect you.


Preaching the gospel is all about exposing the truth. It is the responsibility of all true Christians to seek the truth and share it with other brethren. The OP has done his part in preaching the hidden truth that pastors always shy away from preaching, we should commend him for this. You can only have a problem with OP's message if you are a beneficiary of the tithe scam.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Rollingdice(m): 11:30am On Mar 06, 2016
Thanks for this piece

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by snailspeed: 11:30am On Mar 06, 2016
Manueleee:
God forbid. 30k just for d moment. Just want to work dia for sum limited time before extablishin my own.

Why do you have to work there for some time if you can just give and double it? You are not making sense to me bro

Why not continue to use the tithe priciple to increase your salary? Or is there a limit to the amount the tithe principle can return

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:31am On Mar 06, 2016
mercielizzie:
I was already dressed for church when I started reading this article, I read it properly and also read the bible passages. I don off clothe. I am more than blessed already. OK bye.
Give me your pastor's number!
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by momentum85(m): 11:33am On Mar 06, 2016
JSayin:
undecidedThis tithing topic has been overflogged,overcaned,overwhipped,overkobokoed, and overwwhooped on Nairaland and every other Sunday, it will still makefront page news.

I TAYA!!!
grin grin oyibo!! Grammer!

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:33am On Mar 06, 2016
seguno2:


Will it not be easier and faster for you to establish your own if you earn a bigger salary?
If you answer yes, then you should KEEP repeating/increasing your "magical" money-doubling tithe scheme so your salary keeps growing, not so?
Why won't you do that?
Lols. Bro before you work for something and look @ d place u work. Then ask yourslf will d firm b able to pay u dat amount u are aiming for? If i should work strickly on saving, i should b able to save 80k per month and i belve if i invest on it in due time, it will start sumtin big for me. Dat i use 15k a @ first should nt b what u will base on.
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by seguno2: 11:36am On Mar 06, 2016
snailspeed:
Honestly, I think you have muddled up a lot of things and have veered off on a tangent

There is no connection between paying your taxes to the government and giving in Christianity. I dont even know how you have attempted to connect it. It is totally strange

You are effectively saying that Jesus Christ, whom I quoted muddled up things, right?
He was asked about giving to God, not so?
He replied that you should give to Caesar i.e. government (first) and then to God, right?



Secondly, giving to ceasar was because the Jews where in exile under the Roman empire. They wouldnt have needed to do that when they where in the land of Israel. It is always imrpotant you study the bible in contest.

Why would you say FALSE things about the Bible?
What could you be trying to GAIN by doing so?
Have you considered the punishment linked to such FALSEHOOD against the written Word of God?
Jesus lived His life in Israel so how could the Jews be in EXILE when he made the statement on giving first to Caesars before giving to God?



Thridly, the standard for the church is to give to meet the need of all. It isnt to give to enrish certain church leaders. The Jews did a collection in Jerusalam because at the time, they were all in one location. But after they were dispersed, they didnt necessarily gather in one location to collect the offerings. Some offerings were submitted in peoples houses and distributed. Others were given directly. There was no one method. The important thing was to give cheerfully, sacrificially but not of compulsion. And the goal was to meet the need of all, especially the orphans and the widows

You are terribly muddled up in confusing Jews with Christians so I guess it is safe to conclude that you know NOTHING about all that you have said on this thread. The distinction between Jews and Christians is so fundamental to being a follower of Jesus Christ in words and deeds.
Happy Sunday and I hope you study your Bible to prove yourself worthy of the love and sacrifice of Christ.
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:36am On Mar 06, 2016
harry:
Tithe or no tithe taketh u not to heaven. Most people that are championing not giving tithe are actually the ones that love money and have pressed 10% of their income on their calculators now and in the future and just cannot let go of what the calculator is showing. Truth is everything u own belongs to God, ur tithe is just a test to know if u r faithful enough to let go of the little so He can bless u with more.
What happens in the event that I decide not to give the said tithe to a pastor, but to the poor?
Hmmm, no pastor will ever preach that!

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by seguno2: 11:38am On Mar 06, 2016
Manueleee:
Lols. Bro before you work for something and look @ d place u work. Then ask yourslf will d firm b able to pay u dat amount u are aiming for? If i should work strickly on saving, i should b able to save 80k per month and i belve if i invest on it in due time, it will start sumtin big for me. Dat i use 15k a @ first should nt b what u will base on.


Is your god that works salary doubling magic for paying tithes LIMITED to just one place of work?
Why not keep giving even more tithes so he can move to the next level of increased salary in another place of work that can pay you higher?
Is your god INCAPABLE of going beyond the 15k magic?

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:38am On Mar 06, 2016
snailspeed:


Why do you have to work there for some time if you can just give and double it? You are not making sense to me bro

Why not continue to use the tithe priciple to increase your salary? Or is there a limit to the amount the tithe principle can return
Bro God have his own way of doing things. I asked of @1st, he did it. The Bible says, do not tempt the Lord your God. And more ova, dia are tins u consider. U could av ask wot type of work s dat. I started working dia just 5months bk and collect roughly 30k a month nt to incloud wot i get daily or weekly, while sum1 dat works dia for almost 6years dont collec such. But d way i approched God for d increasment was tru Tithe.
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:38am On Mar 06, 2016
1stCitizen:
The devil is very smart hence he may have pushed the Op to dedicate so much time and effort to post that long trash this early Sunday morning

Op so long as no one came to beg you for money to pay tithe I see no need for all the argument

If those that pay tithe receive no reward for it they will stop paying abi? After all their tithe no affect you.
OUT OF POINT!
Happy Sunday any way.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:40am On Mar 06, 2016
osothermal:
OP you are very wrong read the word of God very well and stop deceiving children of God. You said tithing is an old testament thing? Children of God mattew 23 from vs 23 Jesus criticizing the religious leaders calling them hypocrites that they are careful to TITHE even the tiniest income but ignore the more important teaching of justice,mercy and faith. Jesus said "You should TITHE yes, but don't neglect the more important things. My dear read ur Bible very well and let it guide you .
I AM A TITHER and its working for me
NOT INTERESTED IN YOUR ISSUES.
Bye.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by seguno2: 11:41am On Mar 06, 2016
Manueleee:
Bro God have his own way of doing things. I asked of @1st, he did it. The Bible says, do not tempt the Lord your God. And more ova, dia are tins u consider. U could av ask wot type of work s dat. I started working dia just 5months bk and collect roughly 30k a month nt to incloud wot i get daily or weekly, while sum1 dat works dia for almost 6years dont collec such. But d way i approched God for d increasment was tru Tithe.

You tempted your god already by paying tithe in order to get an increase in salary.
So why stop after one temptation that you made on your god, given the magical increase benefit that you received from this first temptation?

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:42am On Mar 06, 2016
sarutobie:
The fact that tithes have been abused by a lot of greedy men masquerading as preachers of the gospel does not make tithing a sin..Infact in the days of the apostles, the early Christians gave more than a 10% of their properties when they met together for fellowship..so what is the grouse here? That Christians these days give 10%? According to the practices of the Christians the OP(and others of same thought) use as a template,10% isn't even enough! Ananias and his wife were struck down dead because they gave little and tried to cover it up with lies..Christ told a rich young Jewish man who wanted to be perfect to give away ALL that he had and follow him..but the lad went away disappointed.. A lot of people say they will rather give to the poor than pay tithes,this is good BUT they don't even do that! It is just a way for them to justify not parting with their money.. When you can't give 10% of your monthly earning, how then can you share half your earnings among fellow Christians and the poor just like the apostles and the early Christians did? You can't give what you don't have..
MY FRIEND YOU DID NOT READ THE POST.
Where did I say that tithing is a sin?
I rather argued that not paying your tithe isn't a sin!

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:42am On Mar 06, 2016
seguno2:



Is your god that works salary doubling magic for paying tithes LIMITED to just one place of work?
Why not keep giving even more tithes so he can move to the next level of increased salary in another place of work that can pay you higher?
Is your god INCAPABLE of going beyond the 15k magic?
Its not magic pls. Increasment most surly come. It may come in another place of work. Change a place of work may also reflect my studies too. Workin and acedmics stuffs, u shuld knw hw hectic it will be.
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by erekoshe: 11:42am On Mar 06, 2016
Tithing is personal its between me and God.as much as salvation is personal..

That being said, I believe in tithes,but there are more important things... Leaving a righteous life is Paramount, taking care of the needy around you is equally important..

When Jesus accused the pharisees on how they tithe and leave other things undone, he said "these ought ye to have done and not to leave the others undone.."

That being said, I shall listen to no false prophet on nairaland telling me not to pay my tithe, its my earning and I pay out of it, not yours. BTW, I'll rather take it to Gods Housr than to the poot, I'll give the poor what I will and not my tithe.

Its Sunday, a lot of people are living in sin, the harvest is ready, the fields are green and our false pastors are either emphasizing on why you should or should not pay tithes. God have mercy!
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:44am On Mar 06, 2016
orosun55:


Are u sure it is summary?
YES.
Send me your email so I can send you the full book written by me.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:44am On Mar 06, 2016
seguno2:


You tempted your god already by paying tithe in order to get an increase in salary.
So why stop after one temptation that you made on your god, given the magical increase benefit that you received from this first temptation?
What is temptation?
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Eyop: 11:44am On Mar 06, 2016
Manueleee:
Its not magic pls. Increasment most surly come. It may come in another place of work. Change a place of work may also reflect my studies too. Workin and acedmics stuffs, u shuld knw hw hectic it will be.

And your increment coincidentally happened at that time and not because of payment of tithe.

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Nobody: 11:45am On Mar 06, 2016
LEGALAide:

Funny isn't it?
It's proof you can't answer a simple question.
Too bad!

Agreed that the question is simple..but equally a foolish one as well. Was tithing meant for only the Pharisees in the old testament

The good news is even if you allow the devil to push you to open a blog dedicated to anti-tithing....it will not stop those of us already paying from paying our tithes.

Praise the Lord. grin
Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Btruth: 11:45am On Mar 06, 2016
LEGALAide:

Waiting for your explanation.
because some of them are full time minister of God nii ooo....except otherwise they have their businesses?

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Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by snailspeed: 11:47am On Mar 06, 2016
seguno2:


You are effectively saying that Jesus Christ, whom I quoted muddled up things, right?
He was asked about giving to God, not so?
He replied that you should give to Caesar i.e. government (first) and then to God, right?





Why would you say FALSE things about the Bible?
What could you be trying to GAIN by doing so?
Have you considered the punishment linked to such FALSEHOOD against the written Word of God?
Jesus lived His life in Israel so how could the Jews be in EXILE when he made the statement on giving first to Caesars before giving to God?





You are terribly muddled up in confusing Jews with Christians so I guess it is safe to conclude that you know NOTHING about all that you have said on this thread.
Happy Sunday and I hope you study your Bible to prove yourself worthy of the love and sacrifice of Christ.

The Jews were taken to exile when babylon invaded and destroyed Jerusalem. As at the time of Jesus, they were still under foreign rule. Some Jews were living on Jewish land like Jerusalem but they were under foreign rule. So effectively they were in exile or you could put it better as they were being colonised. If you remember Pauls Journeys around Asia minor, he met Jews everywhere. So understand the issue and it will help us discuss properly.

The question they asked Jesus wasnt about giving to God. The question was simply if they should pay taxes to Ceasar. Their aim was to rope Jesus in because the Jews did not believe that they should pay taxes to the Romans. And they expected anyone who claimed he was the messiah of Israel not to also support the paying of taxes to Rome. So Jesus gave them a vey profound answer which shut them up. Jesus was effectively saying, since you are being colonised, you have to obey the laws of the land as long as it doesnt contradict God's law

This had no connection to the new testament giving so I dont know why you are even trying to connect it

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