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Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 9:36am On Mar 08, 2016
Hello, pls I need ur advice here, am a SSCE holder can I go for programming/hacking? Although I still have the impression of going to higher institution but as am putting up this article no clue of going back to school in the next two years. And mind you I have learn one computer course and that is computer technician (although in a small workshop and I work for street boys) but I love these three courses- programming, hacking and web design to be part of my life. Am currently in Osun state and I will be glad to have your take on whether I should go on or wait till I have the opportunity of going to school later. But to those who will think my question is worthless, the main reason am asking for this question is that am not good in Mathematics and I heard some people quoting "If you are not good in Maths u can't be good in programming".




Your take will highly appreciated.
Thanks.
Azeez Lateef.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Fulaman198(m): 10:02am On Mar 08, 2016
My take on it is that we are capable of many things as long as we have the belief in ourselves that we can do it. I know you can do it, you just have to believe in yourself more.

I recommend that you take the path of doing some online free courses on edx.org, coursera.org, udemy.com, etc. etc. that are related to programming. I would start off with either an introductory course to Java or Python. This should give you a feel of whether or not you enjoy programming.

Hacking is something I'm against and whilst I'm very capable of doing it, there is not a malicious bone in my body that could ever think of it. I'll leave that one to you to research. What I think you should get into alternatively is Computer Network Security. There ought to be good videos on that online perhaps even on Youtube.

Let me/us know if you have any other questions. Best of luck!

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by echris246(m): 10:13am On Mar 08, 2016
Who told you programming is mathematics? Programming is technical and logical (cracking sense or being smart) not necessarily mathematics. Learning a programming course is also expensive, I personally had to drop out of school because I couldn't pay my fees, I was doing a 3yrs software programming course in port Harcourt, 260,000naira for each year, only in my 1st year I learnt Java, Xql data base, C#, html web designs, net beans ect. I was even far much better than a friend of mine who graduated from University of port Harcourt, which I couldn't meet up for my 2nd year. But the price can be much cheaper depends on the school you go to.

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 10:14am On Mar 08, 2016
Fulaman198:
My take on it is that we are capable of many things as long as we have the belief in ourselves that we can do it. I know you can do it, you just have to believe in yourself more.

I recommend that you take the path of doing some online free courses on edx.org, coursera.org, udemy.com, etc. etc. that are related to programming. I would start off with either an introductory course to Java or Python. This should give you a feel of whether or not you enjoy programming.

Hacking is something I'm against and whilst I'm very capable of doing it, there is not a malicious bone in my body that could ever think of it. I'll leave that one to you to research. What I think you should get into alternatively is Computer Network Security. There ought to be good videos on that online perhaps even on Youtube.

Let me/us know if you have any other questions. Best of luck!
thanks for the encouragement bro, I will check out those stuff. And moreover ur future guide will be highly appreciated.

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Fulaman198(m): 10:18am On Mar 08, 2016
concord129:
thanks for the encouragement bro, I will check out those stuff. And moreover ur future guide will be highly appreciated.

Sure I would be more than happy to help guide you on the right path. Please, if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to keep me in your mentions.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Fulaman198(m): 10:20am On Mar 08, 2016
echris246:
Who told you programming is mathematics? Programming is technical and logical (cracking sense or being smart) not necessarily mathematics. Learning a programming course is also expensive, I personally had to drop out of school because I couldn't pay my fees, I was doing a 3yrs software programming course in port Harcourt, 260,000naira for each year, only in my 1st year I learnt Java, Xql data base, C#, html web designs, net beans ect. I was even far much better than a friend of mine who graduated from University of port Harcourt, which I couldn't meet up for my 2nd year. But the price can be much cheaper depends on the school you go to.

If you are studying Computer Science, or Computer Engineering, or even Electrical Engineering, math is an integral part (no pun intended) of the coursework. Cheers!
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 10:24am On Mar 08, 2016
echris246:
Who told you programming is mathematics? Programming is technical and logical (cracking sense or being smart) not necessarily mathematics. Learning a programming course is also expensive, I personally had to drop out of school because I couldn't pay my fees, I was doing a 3yrs software programming course in port Harcourt, 260,000naira for each year, only in my 1st year I learnt Java, Xql data base, C#, html web designs, net beans ect. I was even far much better than a friend of mine who graduated from University of port Harcourt, which I couldn't meet up for my 2nd year. But the price can be much cheaper depends on the school you go to.
you are truly correct bro. The cost of learning programming isn't encouraging for hustler like we at all
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 10:32am On Mar 08, 2016
Fulaman198:


Sure I would be more than happy to help guide you on the right path. Please, if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to keep me in your mentions.
am so impressed

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Fulaman198(m): 10:33am On Mar 08, 2016
concord129:
am so impressed

Thanks bro, no need to be impressed though. We are all here to help each other out. It's for the amelioration of a better Nigeria. One Nigeria Always!

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by echris246(m): 11:57am On Mar 08, 2016
Fulaman198:


If you are studying Computer Science, or Computer Engineering, or even Electrical Engineering, math is an integral part (no pun intended) of the coursework. Cheers!
I didn't do computer science or computer engineering, I don't know if u have heard of NIIT I did a programming course called Master Mind Series, its a 3yrs course, whichi could only do 1yrs, but within that 1st year we did maths but not the type you should be scared of..
Besides all the programming projects I did like games, calculator, websites ect. none of them required any sort of mathematics, I may be wrong cos I haven't really gone deep.
But what I mean is, if I have a software in mind I want to create I don't need to start solving any kind of mathematical equation, what I need is to figure out the model of how I want my software to be like then I will knw how to write my code.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by asalimpo(m): 5:20pm On Mar 08, 2016
echris246:
Who told you programming is mathematics? Programming is technical and logical (cracking sense or being smart) not necessarily mathematics. Learning a programming course is also expensive, I personally had to drop out of school because I couldn't pay my fees, I was doing a 3yrs software programming course in port Harcourt, 260,000naira for each year, only in my 1st year I learnt Java, Xql data base, C#, html web designs, net beans ect. I was even far much better than a friend of mine who graduated from University of port Harcourt, which I couldn't meet up for my 2nd year. But the price can be much cheaper depends on the school you go to.

Was it N260k per year or for 3 years (i.e N780k).

Anyway, even at that consider it cheap. Programming is hard. So even if some1 charges you N1m, be grateful and thank God.

Other disciplines charge outrageous amounts yet they're not half as hard as programming.

On the other hand, if you were not so cert conscious,you couldve taught yourself, in 3 years upto intermediate levels. At the cost of a laptop, some ebooks and some electricity.

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Fulaman198(m): 7:01pm On Mar 08, 2016
echris246:

I didn't do computer science or computer engineering, I don't know if u have heard of NIIT I did a programming course called Master Mind Series, its a 3yrs course, whichi could only do 1yrs, but within that 1st year we did maths but not the type you should be scared of..
Besides all the programming projects I did like games, calculator, websites ect. none of them required any sort of mathematics, I may be wrong cos I haven't really gone deep.
But what I mean is, if I have a software in mind I want to create I don't need to start solving any kind of mathematical equation, what I need is to figure out the model of how I want my software to be like then I will knw how to write my code.

If you really wanted to create a sophisticated gaming engine like unreal, you would have to know at least 3rd semester calculus and have a good understanding of physics.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by echris246(m): 12:31am On Mar 09, 2016
asalimpo:


Was it N260k per year or for 3 years (i.e N780k).

Anyway, even at that consider it cheap. Programming is hard. So even if some1 charges you N1m, be grateful and thank God.

Other disciplines charge outrageous amounts yet they're not half as hard as programming.

On the other hand, if you were not so cert conscious,you couldve taught yourself, in 3 years upto intermediate levels. At the cost of a laptop, some ebooks and some electricity.
Yes 260k per year
Yes during that time I did many things online
U can't be doing programming and don't have a laptop, or maybe desktop lols
But I had a laptop, desktop and a blackberry
Phone
But am now fully into music, I still intend to go back to school but I need to raise money first
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by echris246(m): 12:33am On Mar 09, 2016
Fulaman198:


If you really wanted to create a sophisticated gaming engine like unreal, you would have to know at least 3rd semester calculus and have a good understanding of physics.
You are right sir, I understand what you are saying
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Brezil(m): 3:57pm On Mar 13, 2016
Fulaman198:


If you really wanted to create a sophisticated gaming engine like unreal, you would have to know at least 3rd semester calculus and have a good understanding of physics.

Bro stop discouraging aspiring programmers. You don't need to be good at maths to be a good programmer. Programming is more involved with Reasoning (Logic), than calculations.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Aug 15, 2016
Yes o. I started building sites both front end and backend at 13... I was in ss1 then
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by danidee10(m): 11:35pm On Aug 15, 2016
Brezil:


Bro stop discouraging aspiring programmers. You don't need to be good at maths to be a good programmer. Programming is more involved with Reasoning (Logic), than calculations.

I think he's right

Whether you like it or not....there's a difference between. Programmer and a computer scientist who programs.

Computer science and applied software engineering are two different things

You need to go to school for the former

But anyone can be a software engineer once he puts his mind to it
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Nobody: 10:12am On Aug 17, 2016
Wow! I have been waiting for someone to ask this question, thank God someone did. Absolutely yes! Few years back after completing my SSCE, i felt useless because i don't know what to do. Then i started reading all sorts of book and i became a bookworm, during the process just to motivate myself i watch all sorts of documentary about great programmers like Bill Gate, Aaron Swartz and so on. To make this post short, i started learning android programming and few months later, i jumped into Python and C++ programming. Now i can develop a full android app from scratch and even write some useful Python and C++ program. Infact, where i work as an **** i wrote a small program that count characters on PC.

However, learning to program requires time, dedication, sleepless nights and being an introvert. Enjoy Programming wink wink . If you need any help, my email is michaelgbenga91@gmail.com
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by lekropasky(m): 4:52pm On Aug 17, 2016
concord129:
Hello, pls I need ur advice here, am a SSCE holder can I go for programming/hacking? Although I still have the impression of going to higher institution but as am putting up this article no clue of going back to school in the next two years. And mind you I have learn one computer course and that is computer technician (although in a small workshop and I work for street boys) but I love these three courses- programming, hacking and web design to be part of my life. Am currently in Osun state and I will be glad to have your take on whether I should go on or wait till I have the opportunity of going to school later. But to those who will think my question is worthless, the main reason am asking for this question is that am not good in Mathematics and I heard some people quoting "If you are not good in Maths u can't be good in programming".




Your take will highly appreciated.
Thanks.
Azeez Lateef.
where are you in Osun State?
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by larisoft: 5:03pm On Aug 17, 2016
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by larisoft: 5:04pm On Aug 17, 2016
The guys here have answered you well. The only thing I know that can stop you from programming is
1. Lack of dedication.
2. Unavailability of a computer
3. Unavailability of power supply.

If you could come to this forumn and post this question with this level of coherence, you can learn the basics.

As to programming and mathematics, two different games, man. You would need calculus to write unreal engine. But fortunately for us, you likely wont be writing unreal engine for a looooong time. And you can make a lot of impact in programming without having to write unreal engine.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Nobody: 5:05pm On Aug 17, 2016
WOW...i also have a question o,pls to all the real time bosses in tha house.
Ive always had intrest in programming and presently i just concluded my 100l in one of the fed Universities.
The passion is there to really learn,but the means is a serious issue, Now i want to know, will it be possible learning how to code without having my own personal laptop or an easy access to one?
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by larisoft: 5:08pm On Aug 17, 2016
sammyomal:
WOW...i also have a question o,pls to all the real time bosses in tha house.
Ive always had intrest in programming and presently i just concluded my 100l in one of the fed Universities.
The passion is there to really learn,but the means is a serious issue, Now i want to know, will it be possible learning how to code without having my own personal laptop or an easy access to one?

The answer is no. You will need to put in hours EVERY DAY.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by Nobody: 5:12pm On Aug 17, 2016
larisoft:


The answer is no. You will need to put in hours EVERY DAY.
Thats a serious one.
but presently with the economic situation of things in our country, What do you think is the cheapest amount i can use to get a good laptop that can comfortable help in my quest even if its farely used
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by larisoft: 8:28pm On Aug 17, 2016
sammyomal:

Thats a serious one.
but presently with the economic situation of things in our country, What do you think is the cheapest amount i can use to get a good laptop that can comfortable help in my quest even if its farely used
]

35k can get a good laptop. I suggest you read this; http://larisoftng..com.ng/2016/07/buying-laptop-for-programming.html

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Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 9:16am On Jan 25, 2017
lekropasky:
where are you in Osun State?
Bro, thanks for your concern and am also sorry for replying late, it was due to some obstacles that denied me access to online then but am now fully back online. I was in Ilesa then when I posted this topic but now i have relocated to Ilobu (Irepodun lg) very close to Osogbo. Thanks
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 9:32am On Jan 25, 2017
Fulaman198:


Thanks bro, no need to be impressed though. We are all here to help each other out. It's for the amelioration of a better Nigeria. One Nigeria Always!
Bro am happy to tell you that I have seen someone who has promised to sponsor me in my bid to further my education. though I'd conclude the plan to study Computer Engineering considering the fact that studying Programming will be too cost. Thanks so much.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 9:35am On Jan 25, 2017
My sincere appreciation goes to everyone that has contributed in one way or the other to this thread, I prayed we all succeed in all our endeavour!
Thanks, God bless.
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by seunny4lif(m): 10:28pm On Jan 25, 2017
I learned alot here
I'm a beginning too
I'm even 28 years but I like programming and I believe I can do it
I have been learning Java since like some months now
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by concord129(m): 1:19am On Jan 26, 2017
seunny4lif:
I learned alot here
I'm a beginning too
I'm even 28 years but I like programming and I believe I can do it
I have been learning Java since like some months now
So, how has the journey been?
Re: Can A SSCE Holder Go For Programming/hacking? by seunny4lif(m): 1:25am On Jan 26, 2017
grin grin
Great
Still learning alone
concord129:

So, how has the journey been?

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