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Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Ijaya123: 8:52am On Mar 09, 2016
In the Bible, Joseph was not qualified for the post but he was named Prime Minister in Egypt.

It is called favour.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by emmanuelpopson(m): 8:52am On Mar 09, 2016
[quote author=dearsly post=43601572]if politicians dying will create jobs...den let them die more!!!!...[/q

i concur.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by mechanics(m): 8:52am On Mar 09, 2016
Why talking now, to me Buhari did d right thing, hw wil u feel if u are in d family of Late Mr James Ocholi (SAN), for a bread winner of a family to die in active service and his son was given automatic employment in d ministry of Justice, do u knw wether his son is qualified or not, for his son to b cald to bar is nt a joke.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by britbuz(m): 8:52am On Mar 09, 2016
dearsly:
if politicians dying will create jobs...den let them die more!!!!...
And if a loved one of yours turn out to be a politician tomorrow?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by ruffyola(m): 8:54am On Mar 09, 2016
I agreed with cramjones on saying that the root of the incident should be repaired but on saying that there should be no scholarship or automatic employment i think he got that wrong.
Look at our past heroe like Samuel okparaji, I've heard many people saying his family had been suffering since his demise (though I don't know them physically) but we've been hearing all sort. I've heard about so many heroes in Nigeria especially Pa Samuel Akinkunmi the designer of our flag, people claimed they have been forgotten that their children are suffering that the govt are not helping them, they complained during past leaders even till now.
Now this man is late ,he died in office, he died while serving his country, had he been alive he would have cater for his family but now who will. Let the country take care of of that but the main thing is that the cause of the problem should be resolved from the root. And please don't let us be bias this problem never started in the regime of Buhari so he shouldn't take the whole blame ,not even Jonathan should be blame for this had started for long only that at least it should have reduced during his regime which I also expect same from this regime.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by akinszz: 8:54am On Mar 09, 2016
@op true talk. Ur comment no get sense. Tackle the topic not personality.
Obipat:
Pmb is human being with animal brain. A typical almijiri, what do you expect? Did he go to school? Senile president
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by agog: 8:54am On Mar 09, 2016
pls he died a serving minister.
If a military man who is on vacation dies, you wont say he did not die in active service
scarred9jan:
Spot on. I think emotional compensation should stop. Afterall the late minister did not die carrying out his official duties.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by britbuz(m): 8:55am On Mar 09, 2016
lekjons:
most persons in this thread're confused with the notion "all men are equal" which is a big lie, all men can never be equal, it hasn't happen and it'll never happen.. a king can never be equal with a chief, nor a chief with an ordinary citizen.. what the FG has done for the children doesn't change anything(whether they do it or not).. their father has worked hard for he and his family to be recognized.. becoming a minister in Nigeria isn't beans..

leopards don't eat with cats!!
Leopard is a cat
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 8:58am On Mar 09, 2016
Its just like saying because a black man shot 2 police officers in the street of America the American government should then give the children of the murdered police officers scholarships and immediate employment. That can never happen. Is it today people have being dieing on Nigerian roads? What have they done? Nothing. We will never get things right in this country if we think reasoning this way.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by akinszz: 9:00am On Mar 09, 2016
What they are saying is the kind gesture should be given to all and not being selective about it. Do knw how many breadwinners that die of motor accident?
989900:
Why would anyone have a problem with this kind gesture to a grieving family?
Have you ever been bereaved before?
BTW, the son is a qualified lawyer called to the bar about a year or 2 ago.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Reference(m): 9:01am On Mar 09, 2016
Well this is why I continue to emphasize that only restructuring can truly do more than the cosmetic changes we have on offer and that the current leadership will only maintain the status quo as they are proven 'establishment figures' i.e. operators of the Nigerian system that has led us fifty years to where we are. Some still emphasize that 'jail the corrupt and all other things will be added unto us'. Has it? Are we developing. Can't we see there is something fundamentally wrong with the way we exist in this communal entity. The economy is bad - no solution. Security is bad - no solution. Tribal and cultural chasms are widening - no solution, and on and on. This is a country clearly unable to make headway. Its disappointing.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by bjdon: 9:02am On Mar 09, 2016
amaechi1:
Very unfortunate you spend your God's given time to write this rubbish. In the first place are the children not Nigerians? Scholarship and employment are they not part of capacity building? These children has dreams and if the will help them achieve their dreams and aspirations so be it.

On a final note I believe you are just been jealous and mischievous about the whole issue. Even in the united state and other part of western world, soldiers who lost their arms or any part of their body, receives compensation or their family members, either as scholarships or other incentives.
I pray may you never be in ex- minister condition.
The OP is quite correct and you my friend are the one who is wrong. Nobody is saying the family should not be compensated, by all means give the kids scholarships and even give monetary compensation to the family, as you correctly pointed out that is done commonly in the west, when soliders or other public frigures meet an early death.
I am sure you'll agree that what is NOT DONE in the west is to just give a civil service job to anybody by diktat. Every civil service appointment in the developed world is obtained by going through the relevant recruitment process. It is the matter of the job an,d that matter ONLY that the OP is referring to, and on that point he is 100% correct. The civil service must not be the playground of politicians to give jobs to at their whim
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by akinszz: 9:03am On Mar 09, 2016
You are 100% correct.
Aquariann:
You guys keep talking about fixing that road, fixing that road... Abuja-Kaduna expressway is one of the best in the country.

I remember during late Gen Azazi's funeral mass, the officiating bishop said if the East-west road were to be in good shape, Azazi (and Yakowa) probably would not have used the helicopter.

In his addressing speech, former president Jonathan made a comment that statistics from the FRSC showed that, there were more fatal accidents on good road in Nigeria than bad roads.

Truth is, Nigerians are speed freaks on good roads. You need to travel through that road to understand what I'm saying. If you think 140kmp is too fast for a car, then be prepared to see drivers on this route doing 180-200 comfortably, no joke.

We need to change our attitude on highways
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by emi14: 9:05am On Mar 09, 2016
dearsly:
if politicians dying will create jobs...den let them die more!!!!...
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by emi14: 9:06am On Mar 09, 2016
NAIJA ! SOMETIMES I LOVE YOU GUYS.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by saintmark88(m): 9:08am On Mar 09, 2016
As far as its coming from Buharis govt, to pple like the op its wrong nd must be corrected, it wasn't wrong wen GEJ was doing same thing, if government doesn't do anything , op would still be d first to cry out "insensitive government ", "heartless government ".. op go to those countries u r talking abt n go n get a job on merit, den come back n tell me how far?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by akinszz: 9:09am On Mar 09, 2016
What do you think should be done if such happened to common man on the sreet. Thats what op is saying. #fairjusticetoall
modath:
Some people are programmed to fault anything that doesn't benefit them.

The bereaved Ocholis didn't lose 3 pets for heaven's sake, why are people losing their humanity on altar of "political correctness"? SMH!

People should try & remember James Ocholi had a relationship with the folks in government & not just an average Joe on the street..
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by pimpo: 9:09am On Mar 09, 2016
Saifullah01:
I don't think there is a big deal about this. The federal government awards kids of a deceased federal minister. It's just similar to a laudable legislation in the state of New York, US - regents award to children of deceased police officers in the state of New York ( http://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s16 ).What I think we should be talking about is standardising these awards and defining its parameters.

And for the minister's son employment, it's no coincidence that it's the ministry of justice that is offering him the job and not the ministry of labour where his father worked. Obviously due deligence and background checks would have been done as per his qualification before the announcement of the offer. #justmy2cents
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by smileysmiley(f): 9:09am On Mar 09, 2016
Saifullah01:
I don't think there is a big deal about this. The federal government awards kids of a deceased federal minister. It's just similar to a laudable legislation in the state of New York, US - regents award to children of deceased police officers in the state of New York ( http://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s16 ).What I think we should be talking about is standardising these awards and defining its parameters.

And for the minister's son employment, it's no coincidence that it's the ministry of justice that is offering him the job and not the ministry of labour where his father worked. Obviously due deligence and background checks would have been done as per his qualification before the announcement of the offer. #justmy2cents
you have said it all "award to children of deceased police officers"... how many children of deceased police officers in Nigeria are being awardedhuh Stop trying to prove a point when there is none, this is a clear case of "na dem dem", if their father was a police officer we would not have been hearing anything about their case now
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by vislabraye(m): 9:09am On Mar 09, 2016
amaechi1:
Very unfortunate you spend your God's given time to write this rubbish. In the first place are the children not Nigerians? Scholarship and employment are they not part of capacity building? These children has dreams and if the will help them achieve their dreams and aspirations so be it.

On a final note I believe you are just been jealous and mischievous about the whole issue. Even in the united state and other part of [b]western world, soldiers who lost their arms [/b]or any part of their body, receives compensation or their family members, either as scholarships or other incentives.
I pray may you never be in ex- minister condition.
I was just reading the posts but since you mentioned the bolded, I just had to respond. It is very understandable if the children of soldiers are awarded scholarships or compensated. How many children of soldiers have the Nigerian government compensated ?
If children of soldiers are awarded scholarships, I don't think people here will complain because I believe they deserve it more than anyone else. The US you mentioned will not grant automatic employment to the children of ministers or those of senators. I've not heard of such. You can correct me if you know of any.
I'm not here to condemn what the government did or commend them. Nothing can replace the life that was lost.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Gkemz: 9:10am On Mar 09, 2016
Op i disagree with you. No amount of compensation can substitute the life of the lost loved ones. We shouldn't see it as a means of discouraging merit but a way of sympathizing with the family. Automatic employment and scholarship given to the children will help alleviate their sufferings.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:11am On Mar 09, 2016
modath:
Bros, we won't get into any argument about this cos it won't serve any purpose but I want to ask you just one question,

1. Do you feel the same or exhibit the same reaction when you hear about the demise of someone you know & someone you have zero relationship with?

Call me a bloody female but this doesn't alleviate their suffering.

The Ocholi children didn't gain nothing & it won't provide succor for their souls, their parents could probably have done much more for them.

This is not about the Ocholi kids. There is nothing anyone can offer them to put joy in their hearts.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Naijazeera: 9:12am On Mar 09, 2016
Where were you when GEJ promised the family of the late immigration employment fraud employment, did you write the same emotional trash.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by djjosh(m): 9:19am On Mar 09, 2016
TheNonce:
angry





So I ask! Is it only when a minister "kicks the bucket" that such road safety innovations or measures are taken? !
if it is so, then ministers should continue to die abeg...so we can have good roads.lolz
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by viklucci: 9:19am On Mar 09, 2016
yeah you r right. nice article by d way but don't u think ur wrong particularly in this case cus the son in question was just called to bar and offering him an automatic employment in d ministry of justice sounds about right.....so what else do u suggest if not employing someone who had just been called to bar into d ministry of justice?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 9:22am On Mar 09, 2016
God bless cramjones
This was all in my head but would not have been organized enough to put it in writing
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by SycophanticGoat: 9:23am On Mar 09, 2016
lekjons:
most persons in this thread're confused with the notion "all men are equal" which is a big lie, all men can never be equal, it hasn't happen and it'll never happen.. a king can never be equal with a chief, nor a chief with an ordinary citizen.. what the FG has done for the children doesn't change anything(whether they do it or not).. their father has worked hard for he and his family to be recognized.. becoming a minister in Nigeria isn't beans..

leopards don't eat with cats!!
Even my 12 years old nephew would make more sense than this.. Please think more and write less, maybe then you can relate better with the topic and readers on here..
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by sagitariusbaby(m): 9:25am On Mar 09, 2016
Saifullah01:
I don't think there is a big deal about this. The federal government awards kids of a deceased federal minister. It's just similar to a laudable legislation in the state of New York, US - regents award to children of deceased police officers in the state of New York ( http://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s16 ).What I think we should be talking about is standardising these awards and defining its parameters.

And for the minister's son employment, it's no coincidence that it's the ministry of justice that is offering him the job and not the ministry of labour where his father worked. Obviously due deligence and background checks would have been done as per his qualification before the announcement of the offer. #justmy2cents
We use Naira and Kobo here not cent pls, they wanna westernised everything
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Scubs: 9:28am On Mar 09, 2016
[b]
Saifullah01:
I don't think there is a big deal about this. The federal government awards kids of a deceased federal minister. It's just similar to a laudable legislation in the state of New York, US - regents award to children of deceased police officers in the state of New York ( http://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s16 ).What I think we should be talking about is standardising these awards and defining its parameters.

And for the minister's son employment, it's no coincidence that it's the ministry of justice that is offering him the job and not the ministry of labour where his father worked. Obviously due deligence and background checks would have been done as per his qualification before the announcement of the offer. #justmy2cents
[/b

And to buttress your point sir, he is actually qualified to be employed in the ministry of Justice because he was recently called to bar. The op's point about fixing root cause of the problem is noted but nothings faults the employment as been bad. #JustMyTHoughtsToo
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by SAEJO: 9:28am On Mar 09, 2016
THIS SHOWS HOW EMPTY THE WOLVES WHO CALL THEMSELVES OUR LEADERS ARE UPSTAIRS
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by gigabyte13: 9:28am On Mar 09, 2016
Obipat:
Pmb is human being with animal brain. A typical almijiri, what do you expect? Did he go to school? Senile president
What have you been able to achieved with all your certificates? Certificates celebrants. Hate wont make life conducive for you.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by humbleself242(m): 9:29am On Mar 09, 2016
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