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Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Olushauneddy(m): 9:29am On Mar 09, 2016
Frankly, the death of Ocholi is act of shame to our federation. I didn't find it difficult to comprehend what really happened that sent the minister to his early grave.
Is either one or all of the 3 factors that contribute to a crash-free driving malfunctioned during that journey. Inspite of all the safety measures campaign of the FRSC and the billions of Dollars allocated annually to the ministry of works on road infrastructures that still could not stop a minister of the federal republic of Nigeria from perishing on the Nigerian road.

1. The driver.

2. The vehicle.

3. The road.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 9:33am On Mar 09, 2016
There are times one just don't criticise the actions of others. This is one of such moment.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 9:36am On Mar 09, 2016
Nonsense post......it is just said a job....not mentioning d job(can even b a maid, security guard).....so how on earth do u knw he is not. qualified?......or are u trying to tell me d guy is a never do well.......plz op spend ur tym creating meaningful thread
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by montezz(f): 9:42am On Mar 09, 2016
gigabyte13:
What have you been able to achieved with all your certificates? Certificates celebrants. Hate wont make life conducive for you.
Yes. Certificates is worth nothing in Nigeria thanks to the "amiable" leaders you are defending.
@topic,i cant agree more with the op. Yeah,he was called to bar...yes,he deserves to be compensated and more because his father was a colleague to the mighty but why aint they talking about the driver and the orderly who died with them? Has any one in political class come out to mourn with their families? What is in for their kids? I believe their families needs as much support/favor from the FG as the minister's if not more. In this case,i see favoritism and nepotism.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by mayweather2020: 9:43am On Mar 09, 2016
cramjones:
This is not the first time we would hear things like "automatic employment" or "automatic scholarships" in Nigeria. It has indeed become a national banter in the Nigerian political space. The latest one being PMB to the family members of the late James Ocholi, SAN. Let us see why this makes the government look bad, and why actions like this continually affirms that Nigeria is a failed state!

Firstly, what does automatic employment really mean? It simply means that whether qualified or unqualified, you would be given "job". This further shows that an appreciable proportion of the the work done in our Ministries are performed by unqualified people. In a country where actual work gets done, would never have any allowance for "automatic employment". Employment in any serious economy is based on merit and capability. The keyword is "capability". Even if you knew someone to get the job, you must be capable.

Secondly, this phenomenum shows that the job position was not needed in the first place. it was created based on emotions and the need to "compensate" a political family. What this means is that there would be virtually no work being done, but salary paid. Perhaps that is why there is no need to prove capability or qualification, because the position is simply created to pay someone salary, and not out of need to drive the goals of the ministry forward.

Thirdly, this attitude brings us to the big picture of the rot in our civil service. I met a young man recently who told me he worked in the civil service in Abuja, and only shows up to work twice a month! There is absolutely no how Nigeria can develop if we see government jobs as places to earn salary rather than to work. When work is not performed nothing moves. Could this be why Lagos seems to be the only city that is a bit insulated by the recession because they work for their money and do not rely solely on oil money where less work is needed?

Could the western world be right about their stereotype of blacks being lazy? Is it by fluke that Japan, South Korea, Germany and the rest of the pack are where they are today, while we wallow in our mediocrity, nepotism and lacadesical approach to work? GEJ did the same "automatic employment" to the family of those murdered as by the past Minister of Interior, Abba Moro, through the immigration employment scam. Rather than bring the killer minister to justice he opted for a murderer to remain in his cabinet and "solved" the problem by "automatic employment".

Can Buhari and his government take a different turn, by bringing to light and fixing our dead emergency response system, dilapidated highways, and most especially fix our comatose, non-functional health care system. Won't this be a much better way to honor the family of the late James Ocholi?

I wish the Ocholi family well. This is not meant to attack them, but to highlight a fundamental problem with our system. May peace and comfort anchor this grieving family, and may the souls of the departed rest in peace.

-CramJones
Your name really spelt who you are..Mr Jonzy wey don jones..If you cant appreciate the effort of this government Mr man GO and DIE..Enemy of Nigeria.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Richydos(m): 9:46am On Mar 09, 2016
Thought they said there are no jobs in Nigeriahuh So where is the automatic employment coming from?... We have varieties of graduates roaming the streets even the superb 1st class with no automatic jobs for them....what about those dt got burnt along Jos road and all other sort of victims affected by road accidents.... Is it only when it affects politicians that we get to know jobs are availablehuh...... Besides someone rightly asked if he was even on an official assignment..... Rest in peace to the deceased N God grant the bereaved strength bear the loss..... CHANGE INDEED TO THE COUNTRY CALLED NIGERIA
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by NOETHNICITY(m): 9:49am On Mar 09, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Because he gets a position he did not merit. It is as simple as that. Jobs like that should be merited and not gifted.

It is a pity they lost so much but we need sanity to get the right people in the right positions.
hw do u knw he does not merit it! Have u assessed him in anyway?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Charly68: 9:51am On Mar 09, 2016
Jobless people sitting down to castigate every good intention of a leader..what can one do to please wailing wailers..so the president has done by showing kindness to the helpless orphans who lost their parents in the unfortunate accident.. What a heartless write up.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by zeezoom: 9:52am On Mar 09, 2016
Aquariann:
You guys keep talking about fixing that road, fixing that road... Abuja-Kaduna expressway is one of the best in the country.

I remember during late Gen Azazi's funeral mass, the officiating bishop said if the East-west road were to be in good shape, Azazi (and Yakowa) probably would not have used the helicopter.

In his addressing speech, former president Jonathan made a comment that statistics from the FRSC showed that, there were more fatal accidents on good road in Nigeria than bad roads.

Truth is, Nigerians are speed freaks on good roads. You need to travel through that road to understand what I'm saying. If you think 140kmp is too fast for a car, then be prepared to see drivers on this route doing 180-200 comfortably, no joke.

We need to change our attitude on highways
Exactly what am thinking, the rate at which govt officials on convoy speed on that road makes one wonder if they are supermario with extra life
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by akinszz: 9:52am On Mar 09, 2016
That 1 dey clueless...
Naijazeera:
Where were you when GEJ promised the family of the late immigration employment fraud employment, did you write the same emotional trash.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by vipez(f): 9:58am On Mar 09, 2016
ShakurM:
Where was appointments and compensations for sons and daughters of those whom bad roads claimed their lives on a daily basis?

I agree. After presidential condolences, I don't see why there should be an extra privilege simply because his father was a minister of the federation. I don't even know who he was until he became the departed.

Instead of them to start road safety campaigns and the repair of our roads on a grand scale, they only scratched the surface. It took the death of one of their own for them to recognise other lives matter on the road.
but do Nigerians always have to be dumb? huh huh

so he died due to bad road? #smh
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by countsparrow: 10:05am On Mar 09, 2016
No wonder Nigeria is srill the way it is...

Many people die from road accidents everyday without compensation to their Family, why is this one different... Because he is Mr Ocholi... If Nigerian leaders have done the right thing when they had the chance to, this surely wouldnt have happened... No matter who leads Nigeria, they care more about themselves than the masses.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Obipat(m): 10:06am On Mar 09, 2016
gigabyte13:
What have you been able to achieved with all your certificates? Certificates celebrants. Hate wont make life conducive for you.
I have been able to make use of my common sense, Buhari, no common sense
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by amaechi1: 10:10am On Mar 09, 2016
bjdon:
The OP is quite correct and you my friend are the one who is wrong. Nobody is saying the family should not be compensated, by all means give the kids scholarships and even give monetary compensation to the family, as you correctly pointed out that is done commonly in the west, when soliders or other public frigures meet an early death.
I am sure you'll agree that what is NOT DONE in the west is to just give a civil service job to anybody by diktat. Every civil service appointment in the developed world is obtained by going through the relevant recruitment process. It is the matter of the job an,d that matter ONLY that the OP is referring to, and on that point he is 100% correct. The civil service must not be the playground of politicians to give jobs to at their whim
Would say he is correct if you were the Ex-minister's family?
This is african nor UK or USA. People go to pay condolence with substance in this part of the world and it our culture. OP may as well migrate to western world if he does like it.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by stexsy(m): 10:28am On Mar 09, 2016
cramjones:
This is not the first time we would hear things like "automatic employment" or "automatic scholarships" in Nigeria. It has indeed become a national banter in the Nigerian political space. The latest one being PMB to the family members of the late James Ocholi, SAN. Let us see why this makes the government look bad, and why actions like this continually affirms that Nigeria is a failed state!

Firstly, what does automatic employment really mean? It simply means that whether qualified or unqualified, you would be given "job". This further shows that an appreciable proportion of the the work done in our Ministries are performed by unqualified people. In a country where actual work gets done, would never have any allowance for "automatic employment". Employment in any serious economy is based on merit and capability. The keyword is "capability". Even if you knew someone to get the job, you must be capable.


Secondly, this phenomenum shows that the job position was not needed in the first place. it was created based on emotions and the need to "compensate" a political family. What this means is that there would be virtually no work being done, but salary paid. Perhaps that is why there is no need to prove capability or qualification, because the position is simply created to pay someone salary, and not out of need to drive the goals of the ministry forward.

Thirdly, this attitude brings us to the big picture of the rot in our civil service. I met a young man recently who told me he worked in the civil service in Abuja, and only shows up to work twice a month! There is absolutely no how Nigeria can develop if we see government jobs as places to earn salary rather than to work. When work is not performed nothing moves. Could this be why Lagos seems to be the only city that is a bit insulated by the recession because they work for their money and do not rely solely on oil money where less work is needed?

Could the western world be right about their stereotype of blacks being lazy? Is it by fluke that Japan, South Korea, Germany and the rest of the pack are where they are today, while we wallow in our mediocrity, nepotism and lacadesical approach to work? GEJ did the same "automatic employment" to the family of those murdered as by the past Minister of Interior, Abba Moro, through the immigration employment scam. Rather than bring the killer minister to justice he opted for a murderer to remain in his cabinet and "solved" the problem by "automatic employment".

Can Buhari and his government take a different turn, by bringing to light and fixing our dead emergency response system, dilapidated highways, and most especially fix our comatose, non-functional health care system. Won't this be a much better way to honor the family of the late James Ocholi?

I wish the Ocholi family well. This is not meant to attack them, but to highlight a fundamental problem with our system. May peace and comfort anchor this grieving family, and may the souls of the departed rest in peace.

-CramJones
but in this case the guy deserves d job since he is a lawyer, he is capable
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by 989900: 10:29am On Mar 09, 2016
akinszz:
[s]What they are saying is the kind gesture should be given to all and not being selective about it. Do knw how many breadwinners that die of motor accident?[/s]
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by lordonwils(m): 10:30am On Mar 09, 2016
Some people sef!!! Just because something benefits ur neighbour and not u, u look for ways to bring it down by discrediting it or by direct sabotage.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by TheNonce: 10:34am On Mar 09, 2016
huh
Obipat:
Pmb is human being with animal brain. A typical almijiri, what do you expect? Did he go to school? Senile president
You write like a mong! Is your nickname "ebele" by any chance!
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by SuccessJay(m): 10:39am On Mar 09, 2016
There's nothing wrong with PMB compensating d family...let's not be bias about dis and more over, it's even too early for all dis criticism...
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by crownwealth: 10:41am On Mar 09, 2016
And this is another stupidity from our government.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by mart2k(m): 10:42am On Mar 09, 2016
obailala:
I absolute concur with this. It is meaningless, needless and ill thought to grant automatic employment or scholarships to the rich children of a rich man all because the man was a minister. Besides, what happens to the children of the thousands of poor Nigerians that lose thier lives regularly on Nigerian roads?
Uar going too far, let's talk about compensation for those that died wit him.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by mart2k(m): 10:43am On Mar 09, 2016
obailala:
I absolute concur with this. It is meaningless, needless and ill thought to grant automatic employment or scholarships to the rich children of a rich man all because the man was a minister. Besides, what happens to the children of the thousands of poor Nigerians that lose thier lives regularly on Nigerian roads?
Uar going too far, let's talk about compensation for those that died wit him. Let d govt recognise them first..
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by TaasH: 10:45am On Mar 09, 2016
[quote author=cramjones post=43600625]This is not the first time we would hear things like "automatic employment" or "automatic scholarships" in Nigeria. It has indeed become a national banter in the Nigerian political space. The latest one being PMB to the family members of the late James Ocholi, SAN. Let us see why this makes the government look bad, and why actions like this continually affirms that Nigeria is a failed state!

Firstly, what does automatic employment really mean? It simply means that whether qualified or unqualified, you would be given "job". This further shows that an appreciable proportion of the the work done in our Ministries are performed by unqualified people. In a country where actual work gets done, would never have any allowance for "automatic employment". Employment in any serious economy is based on merit and capability. The keyword is "capability". Even if you knew someone to get the job, you must be capable.

Secondly, this phenomenum shows that the job position was not needed in the first place. it was created based on emotions and the need to "compensate" a political family. What this means is that there would be virtually no work being done, but salary paid. Perhaps that is why there is no need to prove capability or qualification, because the position is simply created to pay someone salary, and not out of need to drive the goals of the ministry forward.

Thirdly, this attitude brings us to the big picture of the rot in our civil service. I met a young man recently who told me he worked in the civil service in Abuja, and only shows up to work twice a month! There is absolutely no how Nigeria can develop if we see government jobs as places to earn salary rather than to work. When work is not performed nothing moves. Could this be why Lagos seems to be the only city that is a bit insulated by the recession because they work for their money and do not rely solely on oil money where less work is needed?

Could the western world be right about their stereotype of blacks being lazy? Is it by fluke that Japan, South Korea, Germany and the rest of the pack are where they are today, while we wallow in our mediocrity, nepotism and lacadesical approach to work? GEJ did the same "automatic employment" to the family of those murdered as by the past Minister of Interior, Abba Moro, through the immigration employment scam. Rather than bring the killer minister to justice he opted for a murderer to remain in his cabinet and "solved" the problem by "automatic employment".

Can Buhari and his government take a different turn, by bringing to light and fixing our dead emergency response system, dilapidated highways, and most especially fix our comatose, non-functional health care system. Won't this be a much better way to honor the family of the late James Ocholi?

I wish the Ocholi family well. This is not meant to attack them, but to highlight a fundamental problem with our system. May peace and comfort anchor this grieving family, and may the souls of the departed rest in peace.

I sensed greedness on this post.
To my believe and idealy i think a Uni graduate is capable to work in any organisation except those which required specific discipline which judiciary is among. Beside if u read the profile of the son is a law graduate who was employed in the justice ministry then what disqulified him abi he didnt graduated successfully?
I think is either you are politikally bias or you are heartless Mr Man.
If you can put urself in their shoe how wil you feel? Do u think is easy to loose one out of ur parents talkless of both at semtym? Mtswww
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Fmaniac(m): 10:48am On Mar 09, 2016
God pass dem all,but dey wil sack civil servants claimin dez no enough fund to av dem paid,we d youths ar jobless,uncountable ppl dying on d road everyday yet sum selected few ar hyped,celebrated n compensated wit job because of dsame fate dt almost evry family had experienced in dis same discriminatory country
God help us all..heartless govt,hrtless leaders
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Obipat(m): 10:50am On Mar 09, 2016
TheNonce:
huh



You write like a mong! Is your nickname "ebele" by any chance!
I choose ebele thousands Buhari. Are by chance mohamed that forged result and still failed himself in core subjects. abo.ki feeling funky
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Dbeliever(m): 10:51am On Mar 09, 2016
HOW CAN YOU BE TALKING NONSENSICALLY LIKE THAT. PUT YOURSELF IN THAT SHOES.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by akinszz: 11:02am On Mar 09, 2016
Empty skull[quote author=989900 post=43611070][/quote]
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by chernest2002: 11:05am On Mar 09, 2016
Please can someone enlighten me on how Aba moro caused the death of immigration job seekers and the scam in that system. I just don't understand please.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Rekeb: 11:13am On Mar 09, 2016
If government didnt do anything, this is the same group of people that will condemn them. They will say the man was not compensated because he is not Hausa/Fulani, muslim or some useless reasons. Look, It is very common everywhere for any organisation to go an extra mile to try to relieve the pains of family that lost their primary bread winner while in service. Please check with many multinationals like Shell, Exxon Mobil etc and see the extent they can go in this type of issues. This family lost the father, the mother and a brother. Please let's be reasonable here.

NB: Who told you that the boy would even want to work with the Ministry of Justice with the relatively low government salary?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by jimmyzulikeh: 11:15am On Mar 09, 2016
Could you please stop complaining and leave PMB alone to finish his work, haven't your forefathers assigned and agree in one Nigeria? Why complaining? You haven't see anything yet. That's the [CHANGE] you want.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by obailala(m): 11:19am On Mar 09, 2016
mart2k:
Uar going too far, let's talk about compensation for those that died wit him. Let d govt recognise them first..
It's crazy how the govt reacts impulsively sometimes based only on emotions and no reasoning.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Dom2020: 11:37am On Mar 09, 2016
so on point
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