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Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by flexyfranky(m): 11:44am On Mar 09, 2016
It is only in Nigeria that the Political Class will keep trampling on the citizenry. They (The political Class) keep making laws to favour themselves, use political power to gain economic power. Where as, in the West, they use economic power to gain political power. You see a man that just joined politics today, with no shoes, no good house, but after 6months, such person will be a multi millionaire. But in the West, before you come to power, it is either you are business man, a successful lawyer, daoctor, or a political guru who read well, started politics in his days in University and grew to become prominent in the country. But reverse is the case here; when you see them join politics in order to feed their families and acquire wealth. Well, my heart goes to the families, there is still no need for this automatic employment. Our "rulers" should be proactive in their thinking. God help this country.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by excel101(m): 11:54am On Mar 09, 2016
cramjones:
This is not the first time we would hear things like "automatic employment" or "automatic scholarships" in Nigeria. It has indeed become a national banter in the Nigerian political space. The latest one being PMB to the family members of the late James Ocholi, SAN. Let us see why this makes the government look bad, and why actions like this continually affirms that Nigeria is a failed state!

Firstly, what does automatic employment really mean? It simply means that whether qualified or unqualified, you would be given "job". This further shows that an appreciable proportion of the the work done in our Ministries are performed by unqualified people. In a country where actual work gets done, would never have any allowance for "automatic employment". Employment in any serious economy is based on merit and capability. The keyword is "capability". Even if you knew someone to get the job, you must be capable.

Secondly, this phenomenum shows that the job position was not needed in the first place. it was created based on emotions and the need to "compensate" a political family. What this means is that there would be virtually no work being done, but salary paid. Perhaps that is why there is no need to prove capability or qualification, because the position is simply created to pay someone salary, and not out of need to drive the goals of the ministry forward.

Thirdly, this attitude brings us to the big picture of the rot in our civil service. I met a young man recently who told me he worked in the civil service in Abuja, and only shows up to work twice a month! There is absolutely no how Nigeria can develop if we see government jobs as places to earn salary rather than to work. When work is not performed nothing moves. Could this be why Lagos seems to be the only city that is a bit insulated by the recession because they work for their money and do not rely solely on oil money where less work is needed?

Could the western world be right about their stereotype of blacks being lazy? Is it by fluke that Japan, South Korea, Germany and the rest of the pack are where they are today, while we wallow in our mediocrity, nepotism and lacadesical approach to work? GEJ did the same "automatic employment" to the family of those murdered as by the past Minister of Interior, Abba Moro, through the immigration employment scam. Rather than bring the killer minister to justice he opted for a murderer to remain in his cabinet and "solved" the problem by "automatic employment".

Can Buhari and his government take a different turn, by bringing to light and fixing our dead emergency response system, dilapidated highways, and most especially fix our comatose, non-functional health care system. Won't this be a much better way to honor the family of the late James Ocholi?

I wish the Ocholi family well. This is not meant to attack them, but to highlight a fundamental problem with our system. May peace and comfort anchor this grieving family, and may the souls of the departed rest in peace.

-CramJones
. What about the families of those that brought glory to our great country Nigeria but are no more, what has the Federal Govt. done for their children? I'm not against what the President did, but he should equally do same to others
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 12:03pm On Mar 09, 2016
I rarely agree with cramjones,but this time I couldn't agree more.

100% agreed. smiley
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by flexyfranky(m): 12:10pm On Mar 09, 2016
lekjons:
most persons in this thread're confused with the notion "all men are equal" which is a big lie, all men can never be equal, it hasn't happen and it'll never happen.. a king can never be equal with a chief, nor a chief with an ordinary citizen.. what the FG has done for the children doesn't change anything(whether they do it or not).. their father has worked hard for he and his family to be recognized.. becoming a minister in Nigeria isn't beans..

leopards don't eat with cats!!
Why do you think becoming a minister is a big deal in Nigeria? You mean to say its a very difficult thing? My dear, come out of your myopic thinking. Let me list out things you will do to get to that position. (1) Go to school, graduate with a good CGPA or at least 2.2. (2) Have the mind to kill your fellow man for the fame. (3) Have an occultic group you wanna belong to. With all these, you are on your way to being famous and eat with the political class.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Misterdhee1(m): 12:11pm On Mar 09, 2016
For God sake, this man was a Federal Government Apointee before he died.. Employing the children doesn't even compensate them enough for the loss of their dad. Instead of criticizing such action, We should clamor for such compensations to be spread across all workers at our various work places, as long as a worker dies during the course of their working contracts.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Tellemall: 12:57pm On Mar 09, 2016
omenka:
I understand all you've said ma'am. Just like you said, people mostly react to these things emotionally. Nigerians would sure sympathise with the family over the incident but trust them to also give the government some knocks over this decision, asking the same question some of us are asking here.

Perhaps they should have allowed this whole dust settle before taking the decision OR they would have done it behind the scenes discreetly.
"Discreetly".


You see, when one touts the need for a government of transparency and screams at the ineptitude of the past administration because that administration was full of unmerited favors and nepotism, one must not drop those standards.


If by being discreet, you mean things should be done secretly, still unmerited, then you've got no standards and follow any turn of the road provided it suits your sentiment.


Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
There ought to be no compensation. Their banks will compensate the next of kin. Their ministries will aid in the funerals. That's as much as fellow citizens get. Why should they get more? The government claims there are no funds, but who knows how many departed friends and family have been" discreetly " handled on the governments account, judging from how quickly this compensation has come out. Who is corrupt and who isn't?

No offense, but many people have died in road accidents and they have not been in any way compensated. The accidents left their children orphans and nobody felt it right to help these people. If we say we don't want corruption, then there has got to be equality. It starts at the top. The men on the street will take things seriously when the people at the top do.

Discretion indeed. Equality first! Or forget it and allow Nigerians to go on embezzling as they please. After all, they choose to do so with their discretion.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by thesicilian: 1:11pm On Mar 09, 2016
Kgdavid:
Misinformationists like you never cease to amaze me. Where and when did boko haram kill a general? Has even boko haram claimed they killed the man? But I see what you're doing... It's quite clever. Repeat this fictional narrative often enough and those who refuse to think will soon accept it as a he truth abi? Keep up the good work
When last did you see your ophthalmologist?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 1:28pm On Mar 09, 2016
modath:
Some people are programmed to fault anything that doesn't benefit them.

The bereaved Ocholis didn't lose 3 pets for heaven's sake, why are people losing their humanity on altar of "political correctness"? SMH!

People should try & remember James Ocholi had a relationship with the folks in government & not just an average Joe on the street..
The house dont need to take your comment seriously because you celebrated Alamesiagha death and was asking if he vomit the yams before he died now you are being sympathetic because you see everything through the prism of party lines.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 2:02pm On Mar 09, 2016
I hope the so called relevant people in this country will read this.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by modath(f): 2:27pm On Mar 09, 2016
Ecoterrorist:
The house dont need to take your comment seriously because you celebrated Alamesiagha death and was asking if he vomit the yams before he died now you are being sympathetic because you see everything through the prism of party lines.
My default mode when it comes to your usual vituperations is to ignore cos I'm not about that life that you so delight & take pride in... but this is weighty which is why all i'll ask is that you provide evidence if you can which I'm positive you can never find as your opinion is based purely on your kind of psyche & what feelings you could muster at the news of the Ocholis tragedy!!!!

I don't rejoice at people's misfortunes simply cos we don't see eye to eye. I also cant seem to understand how easy it is to harbour bitterness & hate either so miss me with your BS.

I'm not You, being partisan/sentimental about certain things hasn't robbed me of humanity & it won't happen,i might be disgusted & actually make fun of them, it won't be in tragic situations ...

BTW, I still have doubt that Alams is truly dead.... looks like conspiracy theory to me.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 2:31pm On Mar 09, 2016
modath:
My default mode when it comes to your usual vituperations is to ignore cos I'm not about that life that you so delight & take pride in... but this is weighty which is why all i'll ask is that you provide evidence if you can which I'm positive you can never find as your opinion is based purely on your kind of psyche & what feelings you could muster at the news of the Ocholis tragedy!!!!

I don't rejoice at people's misfortunes simply cos we don't see eye to eye. I also cant seem to understand how easy it is to harbour bitterness & hate either so miss me with your BS.

I'm not You, being partisan/sentimental about certain things hasn't robbed me of humanity & it won't happen,i might be disgusted & actually make fun of them, it won't be in tragic situations ...

BTW, I still have doubt that Alams is truly dead.... looks like conspiracy theory to me.
who cares about your ramblings but you need to stop being so blinded by party affiliations that you will stoop low to mock the dead because of that dumb President.


Look yourself in the mirror before you comment again



Bye
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by joseph1832(m): 2:36pm On Mar 09, 2016
Ecoterrorist:
who cares about your ramblings but you need to stop being so blinded by party affiliations that you will stoop low to mock the dead because of that dumb President.


Look yourself in the mirror before you comment again



Bye
Modath, ever wondered why some people can't take or swallow their own advice?

Ecoterrorist, shey light dey Unity Estate? tongue
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by judondasylva(m): 2:42pm On Mar 09, 2016
CORRUPTION & WASTAGE: Buhari And Jonathan, At A Glance. FACT IS FACT.

1] Jonathan sold Petrol at N87 while Buhari is selling at average of N300 & above, yet Buhari supporters think Jonathan was more corrupt and wasteful.

2] When Jonathan Budgeted N1bn for feeding in Aso-Rock in 2011, and N517m in 2015, APC cried wolf and now Buhari's budget for same is N1.7billion. Yet Buharists are mute and still think GEJ was more corrupt and wasteful.

3] Jonathan spent N1.4bn to service all presidential jets in one year while Buhari spends N6bn on same in 6month yet Buharists
think GEJ was more corrupt and wasteful.

4] Jonathan gave more funding to education while Buhari's 2016
budget favours Ministry of information more than education
yet Buharists think GEJ was more corrupt/wasteful.

5] Jonathan spent an average of N8million on each international
trip while Buhari spends an average of N55million on each
international trip, yet Buharists think GEJ was more corrupt and
wasteful.

6] Jonathan created Over 5.8millon jobs in 5yrs while buhari has
sacked over 2million workers in 8months. Check Federal
Bureau of Statistics.

7] Jonathan made Nigeria's economy the best in Africa and No 1 investment destination & quadrupled our GDP in 4yrs while Buhari has dragged Nigeria's economy down to 14th position in ranking in just 7months.

8] Jonathan left Naira exchange rate @ N185 to $1 but Buhari with his Adama and Eve economics has destroyed the Naira in just 8 months which now sells at N315 to $1.

9] It took Jonathan less than 2weeks to select his cabinet including foreign based technocrats while it took Buhari 6months to do same. Even with indicted people and no single economist among the 36 names.

10] Buhari claimed that subsidy was fraud (Who is subsidizing who@) but buhari has spent N1.2trillion on fuel subsidy in the last 5 months and still no fuel while all Buharists have suddenly gone dumb.

11] Buhari/APC accused Jonathan of corruption but have not been able to pin one stain on him, while Muhammadu Buhari himself followed the crowd that entered into the #DasukiGate.

12] Under Jonathan freedom and liberty of Nigerians was not determined by party affiliation, but today under Buhari his perceived enemies and political opponents are leveled with frivolous allegations of crimes and intimidated with either the EFCC or the DSS.

13] Buhari does not have an Honorary WAEC but bags an
illegal Honorary (Ph.D) from a university that have no PhD student and Not approved by NUC and yet Buharists respect his NEPA Bill more than GEJ's PhD.

14. Buhari used his secondary school principal's recommendation letter to become Military Head of State and again used Court Affidavit to become President and no one reminded him that these are the height of corruption.
He Refused to declare his assets public, suppressing the FOI and denied all his 81 election promises and stayed in the last 8 months blaming former leaders. Jonathan was in that position, he never complained or blamed anyone, but faced his work even when Buhari's disgruntled brother ensured that Nigeria will know no peace. - Hope For Nigeria....
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by modath(f): 2:51pm On Mar 09, 2016
Ecoterrorist:
who cares about your ramblings but you need to stop being so blinded by party affiliations that you will stoop low to mock the dead because of that dumb President.


Look yourself in the mirror before you comment again



Bye
Really, see kettle ooo,make a laugh abeg, cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

You do, if you didn't you wouldn't be so hot & bothered..

You are the biggest hypocrite ever liveth, you hate PMB , own it, but not everyone feels that way & you can't force it, so quit the crap!!

& being who you are, you can't get anything as evidence to support your falsehood so you will gloss over it like you never did... shift abeg, take your negativity go one corner & hug yourselves..
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Nobody: 2:58pm On Mar 09, 2016
joseph1832:
Modath, ever wondered why some people can't take or swallow their own advice?

Ecoterrorist, shey light dey Unity Estate? tongue
When i left this morning there was no light. It has been epileptic for three days now
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Kay03: 3:14pm On Mar 09, 2016
Saifullah01:
I don't think there is a big deal about this. The federal government awards kids of a deceased federal minister. It's just similar to a laudable legislation in the state of New York, US - regents award to children of deceased police officers in the state of New York ( http://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/s16 ).What I think we should be talking about is standardising these awards and defining its parameters.

And for the minister's son employment, it's no coincidence that it's the ministry of justice that is offering him the job and not the ministry of labour where his father worked. Obviously due deligence and background checks would have been done as per his qualification before the announcement of the offer. #justmy2cents
can you compare the sacrifice made by a police officer who died on duty to that of a minister?
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Achorise: 3:55pm On Mar 09, 2016
Thank God for the awareness, you and I will make it right. The young and informed Nigerians. lets keep the advocacy on.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Babacele: 4:13pm On Mar 09, 2016
modath:
My default mode when it comes to your usual vituperations is to ignore cos I'm not about that life that you so delight & take pride in... but this is weighty which is why all i'll ask is that you provide evidence if you can which I'm positive you can never find as your opinion is based purely on your kind of psyche & what feelings you could muster at the news of the Ocholis tragedy!!!!

I don't rejoice at people's misfortunes simply cos we don't see eye to eye. I also cant seem to understand how easy it is to harbour bitterness & hate either so miss me with your BS.

I'm not You, being partisan/sentimental about certain things hasn't robbed me of humanity & it won't happen,i might be disgusted & actually make fun of them, it won't be in tragic situations ...

BTW, I still have doubt that Alams is truly dead.... looks like conspiracy theory to me.
Mo many of us think Alams death is Machiavellian until he s buried n we confirm his DNA, we won't believe. n besides Ocholi hasn't stolen a generation's destiny at least none that we know of unlike some who did n couldn't turn their community to eldorado ,or empower the pple such that a selective OBJ would have been scared away ,...but rather enslaved their people's minds hence u see some weird thinking here that make Satan green with envy.
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by joseph1832(m): 4:34pm On Mar 09, 2016
Ecoterrorist:
When i left this morning there was no light. It has been epileptic for three days now
Hmm. For once, you're telling the truth. tongue
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by Babacele: 4:37pm On Mar 09, 2016
Is the president empowered to grant mercy to prisoners, offer schorlaships, give jobs or any help to the needy or helpless folks in certain situations as is being practised globally? We the people of Nigeria through the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria have given PMB that power from 2015 to 2019 so this mischievous essay by cramjones is useless before God and man unless you are a SATANoid. Sai Buhari!
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by blackprowler: 6:07pm On Mar 09, 2016
cramjones:
This is not the first time we would hear things like "automatic employment" or "automatic scholarships" in Nigeria. It has indeed become a national banter in the Nigerian political space. The latest one being PMB to the family members of the late James Ocholi, SAN. Let us see why this makes the government look bad, and why actions like this continually affirms that Nigeria is a failed state!

Firstly, what does automatic employment really mean? It simply means that whether qualified or unqualified, you would be given "job". This further shows that an appreciable proportion of the the work done in our Ministries are performed by unqualified people. In a country where actual work gets done, would never have any allowance for "automatic employment". Employment in any serious economy is based on merit and capability. The keyword is "capability". Even if you knew someone to get the job, you must be capable.

Secondly, this phenomenum shows that the job position was not needed in the first place. it was created based on emotions and the need to "compensate" a political family. What this means is that there would be virtually no work being done, but salary paid. Perhaps that is why there is no need to prove capability or qualification, because the position is simply created to pay someone salary, and not out of need to drive the goals of the ministry forward.

Thirdly, this attitude brings us to the big picture of the rot in our civil service. I met a young man recently who told me he worked in the civil service in Abuja, and only shows up to work twice a month! There is absolutely no how Nigeria can develop if we see government jobs as places to earn salary rather than to work. When work is not performed nothing moves. Could this be why Lagos seems to be the only city that is a bit insulated by the recession because they work for their money and do not rely solely on oil money where less work is needed?

Could the western world be right about their stereotype of blacks being lazy? Is it by fluke that Japan, South Korea, Germany and the rest of the pack are where they are today, while we wallow in our mediocrity, nepotism and lacadesical approach to work? GEJ did the same "automatic employment" to the family of those murdered as by the past Minister of Interior, Abba Moro, through the immigration employment scam. Rather than bring the killer minister to justice he opted for a murderer to remain in his cabinet and "solved" the problem by "automatic employment".

Can Buhari and his government take a different turn, by bringing to light and fixing our dead emergency response system, dilapidated highways, and most especially fix our comatose, non-functional health care system. Won't this be a much better way to honor the family of the late James Ocholi?

I wish the Ocholi family well. This is not meant to attack them, but to highlight a fundamental problem with our system. May peace and comfort anchor this grieving family, and may the souls of the departed rest in peace.

-CramJones
If you did not know that Nigeria has long been a functionally failed state, I don't know what to make of your wisdom then. I don't mind when ignorant people attack me for being a hater but I would wish those who laid claim to any knowledge to know better. The process by which you rise in the Nigerian ladder is such that you must be part of the failed understanding of how government works and if you think otherwise like me, they simply deny you a voice and force you to rot away as I am. That debate by which you seek to prove your point, you'll never get it. If you don't know me on Twitter, at least on here you can see my posts where I always say Nigeria is a joke. There's no way to summarise Nigeria but by that way; everything is wrong here. If it attempts to be right, someone comes and kills it!
Re: Why PMB Got It Wrong With James Ocholi' family "compensation" - CramJones by fpeter(f): 12:34pm On Mar 10, 2016
for the first time i must say i agree with CramJones.
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