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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:17pm On Mar 09, 2016
bjdon:
Ok who do we blame for this one

IBB---Already Blamed

GEJ--Already Blamed

Ngozi--Already Blamed

Nigerian People---Already Blamed

I guess the only person to blame now is Lord Lugard!

And what makes you think the first three people on your list are not to be blamed I don't understand why most of these Igbo boys always support criminals.

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by obynaDmob(m): 6:18pm On Mar 09, 2016
introvertedsoul:

[size=16pt]No need to complicate issues. . . You could simply answer his question and say veto power was used, but then again there was no bill to be vetoed. With that said, it is glaringly obvious BUHARI's actions are illegal. NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW, NO ONE!!![/size]



Oshey law enforcement agent.. grin
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Wallade(m): 6:20pm On Mar 09, 2016
JUHABACH:


unbundling the NNPC would be tatamount to repealing the NNPC Act. suchh actions require both the executive and the legislative, else it is unconstitutional. this is basically a major reason why enactment of laws in nigeria occur at snail-slow pace

Where is the PIB bill? It has spent close to 10 years in the house of reps and senate. Did they pass it or have you seen any effort to pass it yet.

We all know the outcome if the executive government goes through the senate and house of representatives on this matter. They will frustrate it.

I still stand with PMB on this matter.

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:21pm On Mar 09, 2016
tubouncen:
Ok

Bro they summoned him because it didnt favour them, if it'd favorur them, they would have kept mute...

Don't let ur hatred for buhari consume ur entire system cos u still have atleast 3more years to have him as YOUR president... Learn to read and decipher posts before commenting
You gotta learn to write like a literate and sane creature. Where on earth does a President wake up and "unbundle" a corporation that was established by law? What act is enabling the establishment of these so-called units and subunits? This is a democracy for God's sake. We use laws not decrees! Tell your dear Buhari to get this into his head and wake to governance. Being a Buhari fanatic should not make you display your ignorance and foolishness in public fora. #No offence intended#

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by tubouncen(m): 6:23pm On Mar 09, 2016
Fit2Rule:

You gotta learn to write like a literate and sane creature. Where on earth does a President wake up and "unbundle" a corporation that was established by law? What act is enabling the establishment of these so-called units and subunits? This is a democracy for God's sake. We use laws not decrees! Tell your dear Buhari to get this into his head and wake to governance. Being a Buhari fanatic should not make you display your ignorance and foolishness in public fora. #No offence intended#

Where has ur democracy take u to?
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Wallade(m): 6:23pm On Mar 09, 2016
introvertedsoul:

[size=16pt]No need to complicate issues. . . You could simply answer his question and say veto power was used, but then again there was no bill to be vetoed. With that said, it is glaringly obvious BUHARI's actions are illegal. NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW, NO ONE!!![/size]

Call him above the law or a lawless man wannabe. I don't care on this matter.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by JUHABACH: 6:25pm On Mar 09, 2016
Wallade:


Where is the PIB bill? It has spent close to 10 years in the house of reps and senate. Did they pass it or have you seen any effort to pass it yet.

We all know the outcome if the executive government goes through the senate and house of representatives on this matter. They will frustrate it.

I still stand with PMB on this matter.

it doesnt matter if a million men "stand" with PMB on this matter. his actions will remain null and void as long as constitutional provisions are being violated.

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by introvertedsoul: 6:25pm On Mar 09, 2016
obynaDmob:



Oshey law enforcement agent.. grin

Thank you my half witted buddy. cheesy
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Taeewo(m): 6:27pm On Mar 09, 2016
Ffg
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:27pm On Mar 09, 2016
tunde300us:
I think we should be very careful following fly to soak away. 5 new subsidiaries were created and they want NNPC to write them before doing that,and yet some ppl re all over nairaland with so many abusive words. No be una fault na internet wey be free na
Go back and read again. They aren't subsidiaries. They are new units. The NNPC have been unbundled. These new units are run by CEOs and not just Managers. They are going to operate independently. God help us... If they go through with this, there won't be an NNPC no more. Let's leave politics behind and face the reality of governance. Please take this message to your grandpa PMB
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Wallade(m): 6:28pm On Mar 09, 2016
JUHABACH:


it doesnt matter if a million men "stand" with PMB on this matter. his actions will remain null and void as long as constitutional provisions are being violated.

Go to court. He didn't violate the constitution. He will only do the needful by officially requesting the legislative arm to repeal and amend the NNPC act.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:30pm On Mar 09, 2016
tubouncen:



It is wrong because he didnt follow due process, bt if he was to follow due process i'm very sure it will take up to 6month if they didnt still frustrate him, where's d budget today?....

Have u ever wondered why pdp and fayose kept mute about it... Had it been that its a wrong turn they would have shouted
My friend, I would never support cutting corners in a democratic setting. President Buhari has to be a leader and also act as one.He is the president of Nigeria and by all means the most powerful and influential person in Nigeria.
You know why we still reverence obasanjo till tomorrow despite his obvious flaws? That's because he was a leader. not just by title but by deed. He had a unique and democratic way of getting the job done Buhari's party has the majority of both chambers, if Buhari cannot influence his party men to key into his policies and get his bills done ASAP, then we can agree that he is a failure already. All successful leaders in the world today have a way of going around uncooperative legislators. Even Obama had it worse, he contends with a Republican controlled chamber who are bent on making him fail yet he still somehow gets his Bills passed.
Obasanjo did it, Yar Adua did it, even the "worst president in our history", Goodluck did it. So what are we talking about?

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by blackpriest0911: 6:34pm On Mar 09, 2016
I stand with Buhari, NNPC is the most corrupt
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:34pm On Mar 09, 2016
tubouncen:


Where has ur democracy take u to?
Exactly where we are
So long he contested an election knowing Nigeria is a democracy, he's bound by law to operate within the tenets of democracy. If Buhari is no longer comfortable with the rule of law and wants to dictatorize our democracy, he'll have himself to blame. #Ihavespoken#
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by introvertedsoul: 6:37pm On Mar 09, 2016
sapiosexual1:

My friend, I would never support cutting corners in a democratic setting. President Buhari has to be a leader and also act as one.He is the president of Nigeria and by all means the most powerful and influential person in Nigeria.
You know why we still reverence obasanjo till tomorrow despite his obvious flaws? That's because he was a leader. not just by title but by deed. He had a unique and democratic way of getting the job done Buhari's party has the majority of both chambers, if Buhari cannot influence his party men to key into his policies and get his bills done ASAP. then we can agree that he is a failure already.
Obasanjo did it, Yar Adua did it, even the "worst president in our history", Goodluck did it. So what are we talking about?

Your post is an infinite loop of contradictory paradoxes.
Of what "bills" do you speak?
Let that question sink in. . . .
Then you'd realize Buhari just made a huge blunder!
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:42pm On Mar 09, 2016
introvertedsoul:


Your post is an infinite loop of contradictory paradoxes.
Of what "bills" do you speak?
Let that question sink in. . . .
Then you'd realize Buhari just made a huge blunder!
My friend you realize the post you quoted was a response to an earlier quoted post? You should read the first quoted post then you'd get my drift. I know you wouldn't, cos that's not what an introverted person would do.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by introvertedsoul: 6:44pm On Mar 09, 2016
sapiosexual1:

My friend you realize the post you quoted was a response to an earlier quoted post? You should read the first quoted post then you'd get my drift. I know you wouldn't, cos that's not what an introverted person would do.

A wise man once said.
Quiet people have the loudest minds . . . Go figure.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by 989900: 6:45pm On Mar 09, 2016
Useless bunch of senators.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by obynaDmob(m): 6:50pm On Mar 09, 2016
introvertedsoul:


Thank you my half witted buddy. cheesy


Ur "buddies" are usually half wits? U leave me in awe undecided
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Reference(m): 6:52pm On Mar 09, 2016
Peterwins:
The crux of the matter:




That is what the shallow brains criticising the Senate fail to see. If it is not legal another government will just consider it null and void. The bane of our democracy is the continued degradation of our institutions.

Having said that I personally want to see the end, not the split of the NNPC. We should completely privatise the oil industry if we want to diversify the economy.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by introvertedsoul: 6:53pm On Mar 09, 2016
obynaDmob:


Ur "buddies" are usually half wits? U leave me in awe undecided

Umm nope. . . You are an exceptional case.
Not a bad thing though, you can always say to people " I am special". . . . with a smile on your face. cheesy
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by onegig(m): 6:54pm On Mar 09, 2016
Bunch of illiterates who just sit, idle away and pass stupid bills when they feel like. Maybe they need to read the NNPC act of 2004.


It is within the power of the presidency and NNPC as a corporation to create subsidiaries.


NNPC Act 2004 Pt 1. no. 6.

(1) The Corporation shall have powers to do anything which in its opinion is calculated to facilitate the carrying out of its duties under this Act including, without limiting the generality of the following, the power –
..........................................................................
(d) to establish and maintain subsidiaries for the discharge of such functions as the Corporation may determine.


So what contravene's the law ? The PIB that they need to face squarely. What have they done with it in 6 years?

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Progress2468(m): 6:55pm On Mar 09, 2016
mrphysics:
Rubbish from the senator, all they sit and do during plenary is to make stupid laws that will favour them, and make laws that will fight against the president.


rubbish from saraki led senators. how many laws that will favour the masses have they made.

I stand with buhari and I expect the APC senators to reject this move.

Receive sense !!!!!!!
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 6:56pm On Mar 09, 2016
introvertedsoul:


A wise man once said.
Quiet people have the loudest minds . . . Go figure.
Nothing to figure my friend cos that's totally out of context. We're talking of not doing ur home work before making a loose class contribution and ur talking of how well ur mind can blow a trumpet. Congrats to your talented mind, it deserves a place in the guiness records.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Progress2468(m): 6:59pm On Mar 09, 2016
onegig:
Bunch of illiterates who just sit, idle away and pass stupid bills when they feel like. Maybe they need to read the NNPC act of 2004.


It is within the power of the presidency and NNPC as a corporation to create subsidiaries.


NNPC Act 2004 Pt 1. no. 6.

(1) The Corporation shall have powers to do anything which in its opinion is calculated to facilitate the carrying out of its duties under this Act including, without limiting the generality of the following, the power –
..........................................................................
(d) to establish and maintain subsidiaries for the discharge of such functions as the Corporation may determine.


So what contravene's the law ? The PIB that they need to face squarely. What have they done with it in 6 years?

Your narrow-mindedness won't make you understand that these are not subsidiaries but independent entities which are expected to act as such
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Reference(m): 6:59pm On Mar 09, 2016
Wallade:


You should know that will be herculean task; how long has the Petroleum Industry Bill (PIB) been in the house of representative and senate? They didn't pass it till date and you are asking PMB to toe that line too knowing that the perverts, selfish and corrupt reps and senators will trade on it till infinity to enrich their pockets and frustrate the move.

I stand with PMB on this one. Sometimes he may need to exercise fiat in a bid to achieve expected results. I choose to treat this as an executive decision. Senate and reps can go to hell!

You too don't understand. No law means no law. It will be illegal and in sane societies no one will do business with an illegal entity whether local or foreign, whether banks or customers. And like I said, a new government can easily nullify and reverse it. The President is not a law or an institution unto himself. Its like you want to register a business and the CAC says come to us first and you ignore them. There are consequences.
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by onegig(m): 6:59pm On Mar 09, 2016
CFCman:

If Buhari goes ahead to unilaterally unbundle the NNPC, what stops concerned individuals from suing the FG? A Federal High Court would easily rule in favor of the plaintiff(s), holding that the president's actions were illegal, null and void.
The president is backed by laws. He hasn't contravend anything.

Read up on the NNPC act of 2004. Clearly states the Corporation or Presidency has the right to create new subsidiaries, merge or modify existing ones unilaterally .

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Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by sevule(m): 7:00pm On Mar 09, 2016
introvertedsoul:


I am questioning his motive my friend.
I can remember vividly that there is a Petroleum Industrial Bill or something of that nature on the tables. . .
Wouldn't that make this "overhaul" or the PIB itself superfluous?
So what really is the rationale behind this "unbundling" or whatever they have chosen to call it.

@INSPIRED
I definitely disagree with you on this one. First question you have to ask is how long has the PIB been before the Senate? The answer is 10 years!!!! It is pretty obvious that the senators are NOT interested in passing the PIB in any form.
For goodness sake have you ever heard of a bill that took 10 years to pass?
Since the senators are CLEARLY UNWILLING to do anything about the NNPC, Buhari has simply sidestepped them AND HE HAS MY FULL SUPPORT!!
As to legality or illegality of his actions, that would be up to the lawyers to decide. Nigeria DESPERATELY[/b]needs a leader with [b]AN IRON FIST because as we say in pidgin english "We no dey hear word"
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by introvertedsoul: 7:01pm On Mar 09, 2016
sapiosexual1:
Nothing to figure my friend cos that's totally out of context. We're talking of not doing ur home work before making a loose class contribution and ur talking of how well ur mind can blow a trumpet. Congrats to your talented mind, it deserves a place in the guiness records.

Thank you. . . Learn to spell Guinness and then we can proceed.
Cheers
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by Nobody: 7:03pm On Mar 09, 2016
tubouncen:
Ok

Bro they summoned him because it didnt favour them, if it'd favorur them, they would have kept mute...

Don't let ur hatred for buhari consume ur entire system cos u still have atleast 3more years to have him as YOUR president... Learn to read and decipher posts before commenting
........Gbammm! !! cool
Re: Senate Probes NNPC Unbundling, Says Buhari’s Action Illegal-vanguard by tubouncen(m): 7:03pm On Mar 09, 2016
sapiosexual1:

My friend, I would never support cutting corners in a democratic setting. President Buhari has to be a leader and also act as one.He is the president of Nigeria and by all means the most powerful and influential person in Nigeria.
You know why we still reverence obasanjo till tomorrow despite his obvious flaws? That's because he was a leader. not just by title but by deed. He had a unique and democratic way of getting the job done Buhari's party has the majority of both chambers, if Buhari cannot influence his party men to key into his policies and get his bills done ASAP, then we can agree that he is a failure already. All successful leaders in the world today have a way of going around uncooperative legislators. Even Obama had it worse, he contends with a Republican controlled chamber who are bent on making him fail yet he still somehow gets his Bills passed.
Obasanjo did it, Yar Adua did it, even the "worst president in our history", Goodluck did it. So what are we talking about?

''Maybe'' because he doesnt want dollar to change hand... Cos those beer parlour touts will always want something in return...My opinion though....

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