Henry240:
On the recent controversy, here's the official position of the SANDF



[b]The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) on Wednesday
[March 9] dismissed reports that it would send troops to
Nigeria to help fight Boko Haram.


“There is no such decision to send any military elements by
the RSA to assist with the fight against Boko Haram,”
spokesperson Siphiwe Dlamini said.
African news website Daily Nation reported that President
Jacob Zuma had arrived in Nigeria to “seal a deal” on the
deployment of South African special forces to fight the
Islamic extremist group. Zuma is on a two-day state visit to
that country.
Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula met her
Nigerian counterpart Mansur Dan Ali earlier this week,
reportedly to finalise modalities for the deployment.
In a statement following talks with Nigerian President
Muhammadu Buhari, Zuma said the two reiterated the need
for joint regional and continental efforts to combat
terrorism and extremist groups.

“Considering our commitment to finding African solutions to
African problems, we have agreed to work together to deal
with these challenges,” Zuma said.

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms all forms of extremism".[/b]

I said it before that Nigerian won't allow any nation's troops on it soil to fight boko haram. The time it would have been possible is long gone when the crisis was a very serious issue, not now that It about to end. The worst is to train troops just like the US and UK troops in Nigeria currently. You will hardly hear of them when they come.

croat:


Tavor is simply trash...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0qkpf5O0A?t=432

Set it at 7:12

People are fascinated by the bullpup design not knowing how under powered the 5.56 mm cartridge is! In fact US specops operating in Afpak are known to ditch their M4s for 7.62 mm Paki army G3s.

iblawi:
I said it before that Nigerian won't allow any nation's troops on it soil to fight boko haram. The time it would have been possible is long gone when the crisis was a very serious issue, not now that It about to end. The worst is to train troops just like the US and UK troops in Nigeria currently. You will hardly hear of them when they come.

I decided to stay away from this topic because i didn't want the toxic venom brewing underneath to escalate and ruin this thread.

Any Nigerian leader who accepts foreign boots on the ground, not part of the MNJTF would face impeachment proceedings.

However, i see nothing wrong with a mutually beneficial relationship between the SANDF and the Nigerian military. It should start with port to port visits, joint naval drills and joint boarding ops.

kikuyu1:
People are fascinated by the bullpup design not knowing how under powered the 5.56 mm cartridge is! In fact US specops operating in Afpak are known to ditch their M4s for 7.62 mm Paki army G3s.

M4 isn't a bullpup, a bullpup design benefits are that you have full lenght barrel for 5.56x45 mm NATO and better control in full auto.

For example, VHS-2 which is produced in Croatia and used by Croatian armed forces and is in final competition for primary french assault rifle.

[img]http://www.hs-produkt.hr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/VHS-K21.png[/img]

kikuyu1:


People are fascinated by the bullpup design not knowing how under powered the 5.56 mm cartridge is! In fact US specops operating in Afpak are known to ditch their M4s for 7.62 mm Paki army G3s.

Brethren it's about choice, 5.56 is just as effective as 7.62 as long as you are shooting human targets.

Tavors can also fire a 300blk.

croat:


M4 isn't a bullpup, a bullpup design benefits are that you have full lenght barrel for 5.56x45 mm NATO and better control in full auto.

For example, VHS-2 which is produced in Croatia and used by Croatian armed forces and is in final competition for primary french assault rifle.

[img]http://www.hs-produkt.hr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/VHS-K21.png[/img]

why are you trying to go off topic ! the discussion was about the lethality and effectiveness of a 556 vs 7.62 ,nowhere did i read him claiming a M-4 is a bullpup

africaken254:
why are you trying to go off topic ! the discussion was about the lethality and effectiveness of a 556 vs 7.62 ,nowhere did i read him claiming a M-4 is a bullpup

The 7. 72 will always be better.

But the smaller 5.56 means soldiers can carry more ammo and other equipment.

africaken254:
why are you trying to go off topic ! the discussion was about the lethality and effectiveness of a 556 vs 7.62 ,nowhere did i read him claiming a M-4 is a bullpup

7.62mm is better, however for Navy 5.56 is preferable.

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MikeCZAR:
The 7. 72 will always be better.

But the smaller 5.56 means soldiers can carry more ammo and other equipment.

the russians even favored an even smaller round,5.45×39 mm .7.62 is good for sniping but for close quarter combat i would prefer 5.56

africaken254:
the russians even favored an even smaller round,5.45×39 mm .7.62 is good for sniping but for close quarter combat i would prefer 5.56

Brilliant post.

kikuyu1:


People are fascinated by the bullpup design not knowing how under powered the 5.56 mm cartridge is! In fact US specops operating in Afpak are known to ditch their M4s for 7.62 mm jPaki army G3s.

Eerrmmmm...have u bin shot with a 5.56 before?...when u say infact dat means u have evidence to show that they reali ditch their M4's...can we see those evidence...jux curious

M14A1:

Brethren it's about choice, 5.56 is just as effective as 7.62 as long as you are shooting human targets.

Tavors can also fire a 300blk.

thank you Mr. M14A1..U reali dnt want to b shot with a 5.56...the 7.62 *39 is also an effective round..the 7.62 nato is in a different league of its own

Henry240:
Nigerian Army MRLS I.D

Just guessing but it looks like the BM-21 Grad to me

patches689:
SAAF budget gets slashed - SA Army budget gets big boost:



Thrilled to see OP Cornona taking off and giving the Reserves something to do.

Bit unfortunate considering we are in need of new maritime patrol and strategic lift platforms.

Ghana has 24 units of Chinese WZ-523/type-05 IFV with 25mm cannon plus their 50 units of Typhoon MRAP. Wonder why the WZ 25mm gun looks like a Bushmaster instead of Type 87 looks. Can the Ghanaian guys explain their confusing IFV gun? Also, are these women combatants? Why are they in black not army green?

DaV8King:


Just guessing but it looks like the BM-21 Grad to me

Tornado-G 122mm MRLS

zuluoscar1:

Eerrmmmm...have u bin shot with a 5.56 before?...when u say infact dat means u have evidence to show that they reali ditch their M4's...can we see those evidence...jux curious

He made a legitimate assessment. The 7.62 is a more powerful round than the 5.56, and i can say that all Nigerian soldiers fielding the Tavor, would love to keep it but wish they came in chambered in 7.62.

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Nigerian Police, MINUSMA

SA Navy:

Image Credit: Doug Drysdale

On the recent controversy, here is the Nigerian position. We seen the position of South-Africa, here's the official position of Nigeria, directly from the Defence minister's spokesman.




[b]Defense Cooperation: 'Nigeria Is Not Asking South African
Forces To Help Fight Boko Haram - Defence Minister



The Minister of
Defence, Mansur
Mohammed Dan-Ali,
had yesterday faulted
a newspaper report
quoting him that South
African Special Forces
would come in to help
the country in the fight
against Boko Haram
insurgents.
This denial was made even as the President of the Republic
of South Africa, Jacob Zuma was on an official visit to
Nigeria.


Prior to Zuma's visit, the officials of the Nigerian Defence
ministry and that of SA had met in separate meetings in the
two countries to fashion out how they could fashion out
mutual military technological and personnel training
exchange.

The meeting culminated in the signing of MoU on Defence
Cooperation which will include the training of special forces
to combat internal strifes like terrorism. But it did not state
that such forces would be deployed into either countries to
help in fighting any form of conflict.
It was to this misrepresentation of fact in the media that the
Nigerian Ministry of Defence is putting up a clarification to
correct the misconception generated by the report about the

Nigeria-SA Defence cooperation .
An elaborate statement was issued by the office of the
minister to that effect:
"The attention of the Office of the Minister of Defence has
been drawn to a misleading newspaper publication (carried
in Punch Newspaper of March 8th, 2016) quoting the
honourable minister, Mansur Mohammed Dan Ali, that the
South African Forces would help Nigeria in the fight Boko
Haram", the statement issued by the minister's spokesman,
Col. Tukur Gusau reads.


"That report was totally misleading and false.
"Wondering where the Punch NewsPaper reporter may have
sourced such unpatriotic and misleading report, the Ministry
of Defence wants to unequivocally state that there was never
a time that the minister of Defence had made such
statement or alluded to it.
"It is a fact that on Monday, March 7, 2016, the Honourable
Minister and other top service chiefs had hosted his visiting
counterpart, the Republic of South Africa's Minister of
Defence, Ms.Nobise Mapisa-Nqakula, and her delegation of
military officials at the Defence Headquarters where they
discussed bilateral security issues that would be of benefit to
the two African nations.
"It would be recalled that the
Honourable Minister and his
team were in South Africa
recently where the two
country launched a
partnership initiative that led
to the signing of MoU on
Defence Cooperation by the
defence chiefs of the two
countries.
"The visit of Ms Mapisa-Nqakula to Nigeria was a return visit,
and a prelude to what President Muhammadu Buhari would
discuss with the visiting President South African President,
Jacob Zuma in respect of that MoU.

"And during the Monday meeting at the Ship House Defence
Headquarters, Abuja, two major issues bothering on
transfer of skills, technology processing and development.
"There was never a time during and after the meeting at the
Ship House that the issue of Special Forces as mentioned in
the PUNCH Newspaper of March 8,2016 edition, was
mentioned in the tune with what that publication inferred.[/b]


Stillchris, Iblwai, Patches689

Guys, please excuse my long post, thanks!

@ViceAdmiral
The Military is building a Marine corps base on Impalila island to function as a launch point for Helicopter/Boat/foot patrols along the Okavango river and as a training in Jungle warfare...not sure when it's going to be operational
Also,I think a strong military presence is required over there because of our not so friendly neighbor

Picture curtesy of Nigerian Military couples
I'm especially fond of this image

sudan army BTR-82A/S armoured personnel carriers (APC)

agaugust:
Ghana has 24 units of Chinese WZ-523/type-05 IFV with 25mm cannon plus their 50 units of Typhoon MRAP. Wonder why the WZ 25mm gun looks like a Bushmaster instead of Type 87 looks. Can the Ghanaian guys explain their confusing IFV gun? Also, are these women combatants? Why are they in black not army green?

We have the Chinese WZ-523 but the vehicle in the picture is a mowag vehicles. As for the black uniform, I do not know why but it probably vehicle operators that wears it. I have also seen specialize unit wear it to.

jln115:
SA Navy:

Image Credit: Doug Drysdale

One of the last times we will see the Protea deployee operationally

Navy has her replacemeny budgeted for this year.

Has anyone seen the specific naval budget breakdown? The wording of all the articles i have seen is very confusing re: Op Biro and its funding

gottfried21:
@ViceAdmiral
The Military is building a Marine corps base on Impalila island to function as a launch point for Helicopter/Boat/foot patrols along the Okavango river and as a training in Jungle warfare...not sure when it's going to be operational
Also,I think a strong military presence is required over there because of our not so friendly neighbor

Picture curtesy of Nigerian Military couples
I'm especially fond of this image

The SADF had a base there according to wiki

africaken254:
the russians even favored an even smaller round,5.45×39 mm .7.62 is good for sniping but for close quarter combat i would prefer 5.56

What su..cks about the smaller 5.56 in close quarters is that some men don't drop immediately when hit.

jln115:

Bit unfortunate considering we are in need of new maritime patrol and strategic lift platforms.

Those can wait!

The army seriously needs new equipment. It isn't a time for expansion.

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