₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
Believe me if u take the average statistics of southern Nigeria it will be very close to south Africa if not better
The north keep pulling us back

Tunami:
bbc forgot to note that nigeria is greater than south africa in terms of corruption, child marriage, militancy, fraud, fulani killers, terrorism etc all this also includes what makes us the giant of africa.

tsephanyah:
Nigeria is not near south Africa

thesicilian:
I love South Africa, I think I'll rather live there than Nigeria. Although to be fair, if not for the whites, I'm sure South Africa would be much less developed than even Nigeria's abysmal state today

omowolewa:
S/Africa is great, great enough to be Nigerians' haven

The unpleasant part of it is that S/Africa is gradually loosing it.

greatsodade:
Mumu talk don start again...u most be biafra 2nd born after kanu. Not pulling u down abeg the south sef weytin dey there fro SW to SE...let's be realistic?
All hope is nt lost though, but truth is our dear country is a trash.

prelinctus:
Sadly, as long as whites are still in South Africa, they'll forever remain miles above Nigeria.

SleekMallam:
In terms of mega watts of energy generated and transmitted? Anyone?

GAR3TH:
why do people even compare Nigeria and South Africa. It's not even close, South Africa beats Nigeria in all categories including GDP per capital (which is what should have been used in the article instead of total gdp).

Fact is South Africa is still dominate figure in Africa and Nigeria needs to stop playing around and catch up. I'm Nigeria but Nationalism or not, Nigeria that has oil, minerals and a large tax population of 180 million is still behind a nation of 50 million tax population and little natural resources after so many decades is nothing to be proud about.

yes Nigeria is developing, but when you look at Nigeria's large national budget and compare it to average South Africa, then compare the slow rate and pace of development in Nigeria and compared to the rapid pace of southafrica.

Ask yourself who is actually better of. Fact is this thing called Nigeria has to change. There is nothing worse than blind nationalism.

ATERI:
South Africa needs to refund all the money Nigeria spent to educate them during the Apartheid era, in order to have a proper bragging right. We didn`t just educate them around the world, but also brought them to our higher institutions to educate them, at a time our universities were some of the best in the world.And that is on top of financing their guerrilla fighters around the world They would never have been able to take over from their white masters if we had abandoned them when they were begging us on their kneels. Who is comparing dad and his son? The problem is, when you don`t get the balance of leadership right many rubbish will catch up with you. Everything South Africa is excited about today is handed over to them by somebody. Wait for another 20 years to see where South Africa would be
Anyway, where you have BBC and the World Bank discussing anything Nigerian, their job is to devalue and degrade. Truth is, there is nothing to compare between a grand old dad that has come to wisdom through life experience and a son born with donated silver spoon in his mouth celebrating some flashes in the pan.

MduZA:
Nigeria should also refund all the money spent in the form of bursaries given to Nigerian students studying in our world class universities today....surely if south Africa was not against dictatorship and the abacha regime you would have not been able to attain democracy...favour has been returned...i dont remember hearing of a Nigerian soldier firing a short for the freedom of south African freedom fighters,its official,very soon south African special forces will be deployed in your country to rescue you from BH..we will never make noise about it because we are not the empty chest beaters...just like Tanzanians,Angolans and Zambians who effectively fought for our freedom , they are not boosting abou it..let those who believe that good things only come from the whites be recolonized...we dont think like them,actually we are not them.

ATERI:
To be honest with you, if Nigeria were to be IMF, your country would have died in debt. You were the one that killed Abacha in 1998, right? Well all the British, the Americans and the Australians you worship today used to say you were not human enough to be independent and, by the way, we are talking 70s,80s and early 90s. Talk to those that are a bit older than you when you are able, they would tell you that you never have a base on the Continent of Africa without our money, Thabo Mbeki is still around, talk to him because we accommodated him in Nigeria around this time
We helped you at a time money was no issue in Nigeria. We did it because we saw you and continue to see you as our brothers. We did it because that is who we are. How I wish we are what you call us-chest-beaters. If that has been the case, we would have documented everything we did for you and every naira we spent on you and your country. We would be on television everyday reminding you how we have brought you to where you are today. Have you ever seen us do that?
The question I want you to ask yourself is how many countries have you South Africans helped to free from imperialists on the Continent of Africa? Oh sorry, you are the masters of cash-and-carry military. Young man, Nigeria has been fighting and dying for Africa since the 1950s. How many conflicts have you brought to an end on the Continent of Africa? How many African Presidents have you given refuge so that peace can reign in their countries on the Continent of Africa? I`m asking you because BBC is comparing you to your grandpa in Nigeria.
The problem I have with your country is not just your primitive cockiness, but to be treating your fellow Africans the way you were treated by the whites in your country. Even if they didn`t do as much as Nigeria did for you, all of them played a big role in your eventual freedom. The Nigerians that come to your country are the ones that could not get visas to London and Amsterdam, so your God forsaken country is not the first choice of any educated and intelligent Nigerians. You and your country need to calm down. Enough of your rubbish

naruto02:
This mumu always trying to blame the north for Nigeria's problems. Akuya

ATERI:
To be honest with you, if Nigeria were to be IMF, your country would have died in debt. You were the one that killed Abacha in 1998, right? Well all the British, the Americans and the Australians you worship today used to say you were not human enough to be independent and, by the way, we are talking 70s,80s and early 90s. Talk to those that are a bit older than you when you are able, they would tell you that you never have a base on the Continent of Africa without our money, Thabo Mbeki is still around, talk to him because we accommodated him in Nigeria around this time
We helped you at a time money was no issue in Nigeria. We did it because we saw you and continue to see you as our brothers. We did it because that is who we are. How I wish we are what you call us-chest-beaters. If that has been the case, we would have documented everything we did for you and every naira we spent on you and your country. We would be on television everyday reminding you how we have brought you to where you are today. Have you ever seen us do that?
The question I want you to ask yourself is how many countries have you South Africans helped to free from imperialists on the Continent of Africa? Oh sorry, you are the masters of cash-and-carry military. Young man, Nigeria has been fighting and dying for Africa since the 1950s. How many conflicts have you brought to an end on the Continent of Africa? How many African Presidents have you given refuge so that peace can reign in their countries on the Continent of Africa? I`m asking you because BBC is comparing you to your grandpa in Nigeria.
The problem I have with your country is not just your primitive cockiness, but to be treating your fellow Africans the way you were treated by the whites in your country. Even if they didn`t do as much as Nigeria did for you, all of them played a big role in your eventual freedom. The Nigerians that come to your country are the ones that could not get visas to London and Amsterdam, so your God forsaken country is not the first choice of any educated and intelligent Nigerians. You and your country need to calm down. Enough of your rubbish

ikeg7416:
I'm not even south African and I feel insulted for them that BBC had the audacity to compare south Africa to Nigeria. What an insult to South Africa. Even comparing Somaliato Nigeria is an insult to Somalia. There's not BBB one country in Africa Nigeria is on their level, not one. ****

Ioannes:
Walahi, I don't blame the south Africans at all. if not for Gej who fvcked us up several times last year during the Mandela burial and the illegal money laundering scandal, as well as our brothers from we-know-where who like carrying drugs upandan, why will South Africa, whom we helped liberate from apartheid some few years ago be making yanga at us.

issorite.

mrvitalis:
Believe me if u take the average statistics of southern Nigeria it will be very close to south Africa if not better
The north keep pulling us back

nickxtra:
Naija, better by far.

nickxtra:
Naija, better by far.

Olakunle007:
Truth be said, Nigeria has bright future in compare to South Africa. We might be behind now but I see us filling the gap very soon. The number of problem Nigeria faces here, South Africa can't withstand half of it. I only blame our leaders for holding us behind. I pray Buhari do the needful and save our good name. #IBealiveInNigeria*

Rikidony:
This week South Africa's President Jacob Zuma visited Nigeria and stressed that Africa's two economic giants could work together. Relations have been fraught, not helped by South African deaths in a Nigerian pastor's building and a $5bn Nigerian fine for a South African phone company.

Here, two writers take a tongue-in-cheek look at how the nations see each other.

How us South Africans view Nigerians

Milton Nkosi, Johannesburg
The view of Nigerians by South Africans can be described as a form of sibling rivalry, at best.


South Africans generally see Nigerians as having a chip on their shoulder along with an over-confidence tinged with a bit of arrogance.

Each time there's a so-called 419 email scam involving strangers offering millions of dollars in exchange for banking details, locals here tend to blame it on the Nigerians.

That's even if there is no evidence of which country the scam originates from.

Stereotypically, problems such as organised crime - including drug lords and prostitution rings - are seen as a Nigerian import.

Newspapers were very critical of Nigeria when a church building collapsed in Lagos two years ago killing 106 people - 81 of them were South African.


Authorities in the capital Pretoria complained that the bodies were not repatriated quickly enough.

The current deadlock between South African telecoms giant company MTN and Nigerian authorities about the $5bn (£3.5bn) fine imposed by Nigeria sits comfortably amongst many other squabbles.

I think South Africans have never honestly accepted being leap-frogged by Nigeria to the number one spot as Africa's largest economy .

Until 2014 South Africa had always held the number one position.

So it came as some sort of relief to locals here, when data was released saying Johannesburg had more than twice as many dollar millionaires as Lagos.

The xenophobic attacks last year did not help the situation, even though no Nigerians who attacked specifically because of their nationality.

Nigeria recalled two diplomats after a row about visa restrictions, although both capitals denied that was the reason.
Sometimes it deteriorates to a level of frivolous accusations that Nigerian men who come into the country with the financial strength of hard currency take South African women from the local boys.

How us Nigerians view South Africans
Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani, Abuja
To many Nigerians, South Africa is the closest to the West that you can find on the African continent.

The country's shops could be mistaken for those found on Oxford Street in London.
Its roads are smooth and wide.
And its climate gives your complexion that peculiar glow which lets everyone back home know, without your having to boast, that you have just returned from abroad.
All this makes South Africa the holiday destination of choice for many Nigerians whenever an American or British visa is proving too hard to get.


And so, it is with sadness that Nigeria watches as South Africa regresses in ways that were previously associated with other African countries, such as frequent electricity outages.

If they succeed in ruining their country, where else in Africa shall we seek a similar haven whenever the West doesn't want us?
Although, to be honest, our sadness is tinged with a good dose of schadenfreude.
Nigerians feel that South Africans hate us, even if their hatred is of a paradoxical kind.
They hate us for our "swagger", our ability to command instant attention by hook or crook.


They hate us for being the walking, living proof that colour of skin is not a sufficient deterrent to economic success in post-apartheid South Africa.

They hate us for our smartness and sharpness, which sometimes leads to the swiping of a few hundred thousand rand.
On the other hand, they love our musicians and Nollywood actresses and pastors.
And their women keep getting swept off their feet by our men.

Nigerians feel that many South Africans would rather we were tipped off the edge of the continent, leaving them to take the stage as Africa's one and only beautiful bride.

But, like wise co-wives in polygamous arrangements all over the world, Nigerians know that we must learn to live with them.
After all, there is more than enough space in Africa for the two countries and their peoples to shine.


Who wins the numbers game?

Biggest economy : Nigeria wins, with a GDP of $568.5bn in 2014 compared to $350.1bn in South Africa

Most millionaires in one city: South Africa wins with 23,400 in Johannesburg, compared to 9,100 in Lagos

Most people: Nigeria wins by quite a bit with 177.5 million people compared to 54 million in South Africa

Most educated: All South Africans go to primary school compared to 85% of Nigerians

Longest lives: South Africans live longer, with a life expectancy of 57 years compared to 52 for Nigerians


Sources: World Bank, AfrAsia Bank


www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35763121

vickylala239:
Rubbish where is our musicians...
Actresses actors....
Most black nation...
Nations cup...
Under 17 world cup...
We beat south blue black

vandalZA:
Lolest!!!!!!

Under music: South Africa over 7 grammies won & Nigeria none

Under movies: South Africa 1Oscar & Nigeria none

Population: Nigeria the giant

Nations cup won:
Nigeria 1 world cup under17 in football.
South Africa 1 world cup under19 in cricket & 2 world cups in Rugby.

I hope you got your answer my friend!

thesicilian:
I love South Africa, I think I'll rather live there than Nigeria. Although to be fair, if not for the whites, I'm sure South Africa would be much less developed than even Nigeria's abysmal state today

989900:
MduZAmurdered!

*dropsmic

greatiyk4u:
In terms of what please

mrvitalis:
Believe me if u take the average statistics of southern Nigeria it will be very close to south Africa if not better
The north keep pulling us back