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| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Austin4lif: 4:59pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
HarkymTheOracle:may d God of Ndigbo never allow you people elope with our daughters again |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by EazyMoh(m): 5:37pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
The weddings (traditional and court) are the least of your problems. I think ahlul-kitab weddings are recognized by Sharia. You can't stop people there from drinking, but you shall not. Anyway you can plan Islamic Nikkah on the sidelines of those weddings since it can take less than 5mins. just get your Wally to ask her dad/any relative (her technical waliy) to recite the formula trice with them replying, then mention the dowry with witnesses present and you have a genius marriage. I wish you a happy married life, and urge you to be strong and stand for kids, speaking of which I have you have a plan for them in case you die. are they to live with your parents/relatives? That's the biggest of your problem. Because she and her family may not even think twice before converting them out when you die. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Saladin25(m): 5:55pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
Austin4lif:Keep shut. Are you even a Muslim?... gods of Ndigbo my foot. My Muslim brother will marry your ndigbo daughter and she will revert to Islam. Mosha Allah |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by muhammad23(m): 5:57pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
Salam alaekum brother.... In as much as the religion is not against marrying ahlu l kitab as it has been explained by many responders.....I urge you to put a solid plan in place that ensures that your children will follow the footsteps of Islam...my brother... it is a difficult thing to do.....as the Yorubas will say.." Iya lo l'omo"....the woman spends the most time with the children and its easy for her to sway them to her own path...but if you've both had a mutual and binding agreement that the children will practise Islam, then you have a lot of work to do pennding the time she converts to Islam In sha Allah....I might not be objective enough coa most of the cases I have seen, 2 family friends precisely. The children ended up in the church...infact the father of one of the families used to lead our family asalatu group we had then....buy even at that, he couldnt fully win his own family to his side. ...I pray almighty Allah makes it easy for you and makes it an achievement for you to be able to convert your wife to be to the right path Salam Alaekum |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by seunajia: 6:53pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
MsNas:The guys you are referring to are right. Those that advised him to proceed, like you, are right too. However, by my rough estimation more people have failed at keeping their homes together after marrying women of a different faith. i.e, they either end up losing their own faiths and/or their children. Moreover, "a family that prays together stays together". The important role of women in the home cannot be over-emphasised. "Train a woman, train a nation". She'll probably spend more time with the children and have greater influence on them. Further, women tend to be stronger in faith and they drive the home spiritually. A Christian wife may try, but she can't give what she doesn't have. An option people often explore is conversion. But it is wrong to coax/coerce her to convert to Islam because of you. She has to be truly convinced. In the end, this is a very tough decision that should be taken without sentiments. It all depends on individuals and their peculiar circumstances. I'd be married myself if not for the same issue. May Allah continue to guide us. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 7:54pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
MsNas:I am not sure I will make Jannah buh I am sure I am on the path to jannah by marrying a Muslim woman. Marrying a christian woman is Doom. Trust me I tried it. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 8:02pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
olakrim:I dont know how sane this idea is. Reason out the BOLDED. what kind of Muslim are? 4yrs+ what? RELATIONSHIP? |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by hollermeelaycon(m): 9:04pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
mukhcech:I disagree wif u on this brother, Islam never forbids it nor cursed it like most pple on dis forum r doing. It is permitted lets juz pray for dem, lets make people see d beauty of Islam n nt d imperfection in its followers. Wit al dis u r making it seem as if dey r hated n mind u dey r very regarded in Islam. If d Qur'an n hadith allows it who r we to say d contrary |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 9:21pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
hollermeelaycon:Lets agree to disagree then. Just like I can't pray doom for myself, I wont pray same for someone else. Some women with Musliim names aint even marriageable. I hope u find time to reflect on those verses. (Baqarah 221 ) And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember. (Mumtahina 10 ) O you who have believed, when the believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them. Allah is most knowing as to their faith. And if you know them to be believers, then do not return them to the disbelievers; they are not lawful [wives] for them, nor are they lawful [husbands] for them. But give the disbelievers what they have spent. And there is no blame upon you if you marry them when you have given them their due compensation. And hold not to marriage bonds with disbelieving women, but ask for what you have spent and let them ask for what they have spent. That is the judgement of Allah; He judges between you. And Allah is Knowing and Wise. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by MsNas(f): 10:08pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
mukhcech:Uncle, did I mention your name?Please, don't come for me unless I send for you. The bolded part of your sentence is what got me annoyed in the first place. Like, are you serious? Islam my Islam. Because your marriage or relationship to a christian failed means all other cross-religious marriage like that is doomed? You are in dire need or education. I'm sure you're one of those people that I will refuse to mention. This is why they call use fanatics. I'm done with you. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by MsNas(f): 10:11pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
seunajia:Thanks and may Allah (SWT) bless you for this highly educated and diplomatic answer free from bigotry and fanatism. Barka Juma'ah |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Saladin25(m): 11:39pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
Those people abusing or condemning this OP are not serious. Once The Quran and the Sunnah permits it. Who are we to judge him? If you can't do it don't criticise people that is in that line. You that you marry a Muslim wife how are we sure your wife or husband won't leave Islam. My Alfa married a Muslim woman from a Muslim background. She practices Islam not a Muslim by name after more than 2 decades that they got married, she Just decided she won't be practicing Islam again. My Ustaz thought it was a joke until woman now shown it to everyone that she won't practice Islam anymore. The marriage crashed. My mum's friend an Igbo woman from a Catholic family got married to an Hausa man. The man never forced her to practice Islam. Even the husband do persuade her to go to church. After 7years they got married she reverted to Islam. Now the woman am talking about practice Islam as if she was born into a Muslim family to the extent that she talk to non-muslims about Islam. Only Allah(SWT) guides anyone he wishes to guide and allow some people to go astray. My prayer is we should die in Islam. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Abumadea: 12:07am On Mar 12, 2016 |
hollermeelaycon:He has his reasons for making such comments, probably from experience. U and I know how stubborn christians are. They are very hard to change and u know women are deciesive. They spend more time with the kids than we fathers. What if all she recite in the presence of the children is jesus is lord? What if the guy dies early leaving children and the wife. U and I know the woman will take the children to church. Again, the lady agreed not to take the kids to church while she will still be going to church. That means, she never agreed to accept Islam. The guy might be making a terrible mistake truly cos Allah says in the quran: do not marry the unbelieving woman until she believe. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 3:17am On Mar 12, 2016*. Modified: 3:41am On Mar 12, 2016 |
MsNas:And you are supposed to be a Muslim. If you are I wonder if you are sane. The Bride should not read this stupid statement from an acclaimed muslim. she will be depressed. MsNas:Madam, I am not your uncle. Next time something I posted annoys you, Go hit your Head on a rock/wall. Everyone is in dire need of Education and you are no exception. I am done with you before now abi u think say I wan marry you before(I will be doomed if I even think of maeeying ur type- u knw wat I mean). That is why they call you liberal or apologetic muslim ba? |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by olakrim(op): 9:18am On Mar 12, 2016 |
HoldenCaulfield:I believe urs will be easier when the time comes,cos yorubas are more flexible when it comes to religion and marriage compare to the igbos base on what I have heard. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by olakrim(op): 9:22am On Mar 12, 2016 |
EazyMoh:You jst showed me how to really balance it, that's exactly wat I want to know. May Allah reward u.... |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by hollermeelaycon(m): 10:13am On Mar 12, 2016 |
mukhcech:Ma Sha Allah yah Akhi Surah Al-maidah Today, all good things have been made lawful to you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful to you, and your food is lawful to them. The chaste believing women and the chaste women of the people who were given the book before you, are lawful to you, provided that you give them their dowers, and marry them, neither committing fornication nor taking them as mistresses. The deeds of anyone who rejects the faith will come to nothing, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers. Pls lets always try n understand all teachings concerning an issue fairly. We only need to make this brother understand how to make his home berra, no mata d situation if we clearly follow d Sunnah we will av all course to b thankfull I still stand on d ground dt diz bruvah is on halal path n he shud forge ahead in halal manner too. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by hollermeelaycon(m): 10:27am On Mar 12, 2016 |
Abumadea:I see u r already a judge concerning wt Allah has clearly stated in the Qur'an. Pls kindly refer to surah Al-Maidah ayat 5 n also ayat 48 wch i post below We have sent down the Book to you with the truth, fulfilling [the predictions] revealed in the previous scriptures and determining what is true therein, and as a guardian over it.. Judge, therefore, between them by what God has revealed, and do not follow their vain desires turning away from the truth that has come to you. To every one of you We have ordained a law and a way, and had God so willed, He would have made you all a single community, but He did not so will, in order that He might try you by what He has given you. Vie, then, with one another in doing good works; to God you shall all return; then He will make clear to you about what you have been disputing. Seek more knowledge on dis issue n refrain from condemning d idea |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 11:26am On Mar 12, 2016 |
olakrim: hollermeelaycon:After 4 yrs of Disobeying Allah's Command, It shouldn't surprise anyone if your mind is made up to continue following your whimps and desires. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Nobody: 11:53am On Mar 12, 2016 |
mukhcech:And how is he disobeying Allah's command? |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by EazyMoh(m): 1:15pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
olakrim:Masha Allah am glad I'd could help. Barakallahu fih. Wish you I could attend the wedding. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by MsNas(f): 6:48pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
mukhcech:Lmao. Look at this unsightly porcupine asking me if I'm sane? Lmao. It's you and your generations who are insane. Yea, I am a Muslim, a right thinking one at that. Who says a person can judge my level of Islam? Lmao. I know your type. Holier than thou, while commiting atrocities in the confines of their darkened room. Even if I was unmarried, I can't marry a slow thinking penguin like you, so You're doomed Anyways. Yes. I stand by my words. I am not trying to please anybody from any religion. I have my own voice. Just because I'm a Muslim, I should cover the excesses of some Muslims like you? Please, go back to bed. You think you've seen a weak ass female to rain on her parade on NL right? Lmbo. I'm done with you. Bye Chewbacca. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Abumadea: 8:02pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
hollermeelaycon:I can see u don't onderstand my post. Allah has made it clear; DO NOT MARRY the unbelieving woman UNTIL SHE BELIEVE. THAT'S A LAW FROM ALLAH. DO NOT. AM A MARRIED MAN WITH EXPERIENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF U ARE MARRIED. I know the influence of mothers over children and Allah knows best. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 9:18pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
MsNas:With the above emphasized statement from your post. It is either you re Mad or You not a Muslim. Choose the suitable option anytime. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 9:29pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
MsNas:This Mad woman thinks everyone is like her. So because you commit evil both publicly and iin the confines of your darkened room, u think everyone does. You have not address your excesses buh you want to cover another person excesses. Address the fact that you dont even know the basic responsibility and requirement of a Muslim woman. Then and only then I will see u above the class of a Prostitute. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 9:45pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
olakrim: hollermeelaycon:- Fiqh of the family » Conditions of Marriage. arures 20227: Wants to marry Christian woman I like one girl, and we are gonna get WED in future. My parents are fully agreed with my decision, so her parents. Everything is going alright. The problem I am encounted with is, "She is Christian." While discussing with each others, I have asked her to Embrace ISLAM, And I have been given many information regarding islam so she can understand each and everything, It seems she doesnt want to EMBRACE islam. As she said " I am very very strong christian, I just cannot accept any faith than christianity, I cannot become muslim. She doesnt eat pork, nor, does she drinks, She is a Chaste lady with her true feelings and a Clean heart. This is true that she has nothing against my faith. She is agree to accept me with my faith and she wants me accept her with her faith, and the children would be MUSLIMS. This is what we have decided so far. Some of my friend adviced me to FORCE her to EMBRACE ISLAM, Like threaten "I won't marry you if you dont Embrace islam" This is what my friend adviced me, But as far as I realize, This wouldnt be fair at all. please Tellme Should i force her to become muslim? I guess, to embrace islam she must have the feelings that ALLAH is one and she should have the real feelings instead of fake feelings. I dont want to force her cause I scare, that IF she becomes muslim JUST to show me, JUST to get married with me, Its gonna be SIN on me. I want she to become muslim from her true feelings and real feelings with that ALLAH is one and he is the god. I am trying my best to provide her knowledge of islam and to showing her the right path. Please tellme Should i force her? IF she refuses to embrace Islam, Can i marry her? Can I and her get married and lives as husband and wife?. Published Date: 2002-06-19 Praise be to Allaah. Allaah has permitted us to marry Jewish and Christian woman, on condition that they are chaste and avoid zina (unlawful sexual relations), and that the wali (guardian) of that Christian woman is a Muslim. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Made lawful to you this day are At‑Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girlfriends. And whosoever disbelieves in Faith, [i.e. in the Oneness of Allaah and in all the other Articles of Faith i.e. His (Allaah’s) Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al‑Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work; and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers” [al-Maa'idah 5:5] What is meant by chaste is refraining from zina (unlawful sexual relationships). Ibn Katheer said: This is the view of the majority, which the most correct opinion, so as to avoid the combination of her being a non-Muslim with her being unchaste, which would mean that she is totally corrupt and thus her husband will get, as the Arabic proverb says, “Bad goods and cheated on the weight.” The apparent meaning of the aayah is that what is meant is those who are chaste and refrain from zina. Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/55 The condition of the woman’s wali being a Muslim is indicated by the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “And never will Allaah grant to the disbelievers a way (to triumph) over the believers” [al-Nisa’ 4:141] However, we do not advise you to marry a non-Muslim woman, nor do we advise you to marry just any Muslim woman. For married life is not based only on beauty and attraction, rather the wise Muslim must look with insight at what is beyond that, because he needs to be sure that his house will be looked after in his absence, and he needs to bring up his children, and he will not be able to find that or other things which every wise husband seeks, except with a religious Muslim woman. This is the advice of our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Please whoever is deleting this truth post should fear the Day of Judgement and accountability. I have posted this before buh it was deleted. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Fundamentalist: 12:56pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
olakrim:Your wife's wali must be a muslim without such there is no marriage. ( HARAM) NO bowing (HARAM) NO buying of alcoholic drinks (HARAM) NO dancing (HARAM) NO 'traditional ' or 'court' marriage (HARAM). Marriage is marriage in islam and can be contracted within five minutes not the igbo type of wedding were the bride is sold to you with exorbitant bride price ( israf also haram ). we have beautiful sisters on and offline while you wasting your time with a kafira. we have seen end results of such marriages, where most of the children become apostates in islam a very common phenomenon in south west. What will you tell ALLAH on the day of judgement. please rethink your steps. marriage is for the sake of Allah |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 3:35pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
Fundamentalist:My Brother Leave am, Trouble siddon, Yanga go wake am. IN SHA ALLAH HE WILL LIVE TO REGRET IT BECAUSE HE WAS WARNED. |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by Fundamentalist: 12:57pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
mukhcech:i can't leave him, he is my brother in religion ,'' RELIGION IS SINCERE ADVICE'' - HADITH. i just told him the reality |
| Re: Different Religion And Tribe: How Do I Balance The Wedding by mukhcech(m): 3:53pm On Mar 19, 2016 |
Fundamentalist:you are right. |
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