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Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by ableguy(m): 4:15pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy: I didn't, anyways I am sorry. 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by ableguy(m): 4:19pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
shala01: I wonder ooo 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by ableguy(m): 4:22pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
AmAlbert: Thanks, staying with jehovah forever!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 4:24pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
unitysheart:In general many religious organizations do not offer any spiritual assistance to the sheep. My aunts were members of the baptist church before they and their families abandoned the church for a Pentecostal church in kaduna, because the church could not explain why their pastor preferred to attend the governor's inauguration, instead of officiating at their first son's burial. Also, I don't pay attention to internet hate groups either for muslims or any group of christianity 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by okitz4(m): 4:25pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux: Oga u lie, big 1, I'm one of dem, I have different versions in my phone, in short they is an app designed by Witnesses with provisions for other versions of the Bible, Y lie?, what will u gain? 7 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by ableguy(m): 4:26pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
irunooboo: Only unrepentant sinners are disfellowshiped, wicked ones are expelled not sinners to keep the congregation clean and for those that appreciate. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by dfrost: 4:26pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux: Do you really want an honest answer or you to ridicule them on a public forum? That I know they avoid if it's ridicule. I know a guy. 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Evidence042(m): 4:26pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Humility is what it takes to be approved by God. Seeing urself as intelligent, smart or even an elite without be humble will rub you off God's favour. Paul Grundy and his likes feels that they re so wise, intelligent and I tell u one thing, Jehovah doesn't approve such self intelligence rather it tantamount to self destruction. 3 things is need for one to be concealed in the day of Jehovah' anger - Seek Jehovah, Seek Righteousness, Seek Meekness. Meekness means being humble to accept. One thing is this- Grundy and his likes are thinking from human point of view...... Not here to argue at all. I'm a Bonafide Witness of Jehovah and what I ve learnt from the Bible has made my life meaningful. Humble urself before Jehovah and he will give u understanding.. Apparently, Grundy and his people are all Ex-witnesses who left with anger and grudges probably they felt they weren't rightly disciplined or allowed human philosophy to steal their heart 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 4:27pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
ableguy:You just proved that guy right |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by bezimo(m): 4:27pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Stay away from those Jehovah witness folks.They pervert the true gospel of Jesus Christ.You would be misguided eventually and miss it if you follow them.I hope you are not one of them. The likes of Mormon, Jehovah witness, be super careful. Find a true bible believing and Holy Spirit believing church and worship. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by oglalasioux(m): 4:27pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
okitz4: You are not a Jehovah's witness. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by dfrost: 4:30pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
[quote author=irunooboo post=44098522]I was disfellowshiped in 2010 after i slept with an elder and a ministerial servant while the others were reproved I am attending christ embassy now and God has truly shown me the way [/quotel] What an irony. He has shown you the way indeed. Timeo danaos et dona ferentes... |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Nobody: 4:30pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux:Ok now you have just spoken the first lie. you fell into a ditch. You don't have to lie to win the argument. I'll call up one of my classmates at NTA abuja and reconfirm. He has always used the Catholic D. Version when we are arguing with an islamic cleric in kaduna. Then you must retrace your assertion as a mark of honour! 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by ableguy(m): 4:30pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
irunooboo: The Bible expressly condem fornication and said no one guilty of it will be in God's Kingdom!!! So stop deceiving yourself even those that are not serving GOD know it's wrong. 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by Maximus85(m): 4:30pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux: Hmmm. I really do understand where you are coming from. We are talking about perfection and Imperfection here. The bible say that everything that God made was good, perfect. Satan came along and deceived Adam and Eve. He thwarted God's original purpose. He insinuated that we can survive without God. I used to fell like God should have destroyed Satan instantly and reset everything. But will that removed the accusations against God? He called God a liar, he questioned God's sovereignty (right to rule) so God in his humility allowed Satan prove himself. God allow him take over the rulership of the earth. If this is not true, Satan wouldn't have tempted Jesus with the world if it's not really his. Can you expect anything good from Satan? 1 John 5:19 "We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one." Is God the wicked one here. Satan knows that he has just a very little time left, so he's doing everything possible to destroy God's work. You call all these natural disaster, that world's problems are practical. Can't Satan control nature? Can't he control people to start destroying others? I saw a video on YouTube white roosters raped a hen to death.... You call that nature. Cain killed Abel, you feel what he did is normal or practical? What excuse has he to give for killing his own brother? Under whose influence is he, God's or Satan's. Under whose influence would a person in charge of people's pension pay herself 36m in a month while pensioners are dying of hunger and malarial? Satan is the cause of all the problems in the world... See what Revelations 12:12 "On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time." The time to end Satan and his work is very close. God has given the wicked spirit enough time to prove himself and he has failed, we humans can see, the billions of angels in heaven have seen, so when God, our God of justice destroy Satan and his cohorts, no one will say Satan might be right to question God's sovereignty and no such rebellion can ever occur again. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by atoleybaba(m): 4:32pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux:when next a witness comes knocking on your door, open for dem and let dem talk with u 4 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by rottennaija(m): 4:32pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
okitz4: He is a jw. He just wants others to take him seriously, that why he is pretending. At first, it appears he isn't, I needed to check his profile to find out. @bolded, you get it wrong too. Other try their best to follow the Bible as well. I guess you haven't studied their lives much. That is exactly one of the hypocrisy I'm talking about. You claim others burrow their doctrine from paganism but you don't know that your 1914 doctrine is also borrow from paganism. I'm sure you don't know about that. Try learning a little about pyramidology and Russel. that's how you will know how the whole idea of 1914 came in and when Rutherford later did away with pyramidology doctrine calling it paganism, they had to look for a way of still maintaining the 1914 doctrine without discrediting themselves and they are good, because they found a way, but still fall short, relating event that had to relationship to arrive e at 1914. But we'll, since it has paganic origin, you wouldn't fund any link in any of the Watchtower library. |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by TeddyPendergrass(m): 4:36pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy: nice copy of paste. you should copy and paste a book. I am confident it will sell well, or maybe get many likes. jehovah witnesses do not claim to know everything in the bible. some of the believes they use to have in the past are no longer held so because their understanding of the bible continues to improve and so they have to let go of believes they previously held that are contrary to what the bible says. this is why some of their old believes no longer hold. yes I am one of jehovahs witnesses 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by okitz4(m): 4:37pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux:must u lie to win an argument?, I am one of dem, am proud because I learn and speak the truth, 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by hooged: 4:38pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
ableguy, keep it up bro, your post really show that you listen and concentrate during the program, don't forget to attend the special talk on Sunday. 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by atoleybaba(m): 4:39pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
irunooboo:nice achievement clap for urself. Iiar....meanwhile proud jw here.. 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by chival1960(f): 4:41pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
paulGrundy:Paul its either he is a New convert or he has them as relations trust me he would still deny it to make his point. All I want you to do is let the matter be cos JW from experience don't open their minds to others they don't even want to reason with you but they forcefully want you to accept all they say and believe them without doubt. The issue with them is that they argue blindly I work with them and have them as friends. But let the bible guide us Not religion. The bible is the truth that we have and know. 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by rabzy: 4:41pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Paul grundy et al. Still at it. How are you doing. |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by TeddyPendergrass(m): 4:41pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
Saylawchar: see you have discredited yourself by saying the bible jehovahs witnesses use is different. no its not. it only puts back the words jehovah where the so called religious leaders have taken out from 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by blezzy080: 4:42pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux:visit JW.org 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by ableguy(m): 4:43pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux:He is right, when they call they even encourage you to get your own bible, some have admitted that what they learn was surprising to them since they never knew it's in the bible. 2 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by TeddyPendergrass(m): 4:43pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
irunooboo: Hahahahahahahaha wow!! so you left jehovahs organisation because you were disfellowshiped and the other's were reproved? pretty obvious why you were disfellowshiped 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by okitz4(m): 4:44pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
rottennaija: explain ur assertion about the paganism related to 1914, others? Oga check ur records, are Christmas and Easter celebrations scriptural?, |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by TeddyPendergrass(m): 4:46pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
oglalasioux: you know what? ask a question you will like to have answered...I didn't follow the trail of questions you asked earlier. let's sort that out yeah 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by adten2(m): 4:46pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
[quote author=oglalasioux post=44079152] You that have searched the scriptures give me just an answer to one of the questions I put up. Okay. I'll give you time to ask people you think knows the bible if you don't know. I'm particularly waiting for a Jehovah's Witness answer.[/quote Ogalasuiux I must tell that I am amazed by the way you put up your questions earlier. The Bible has answers to all your questions but to start with lets talk about question 8 (what happens after death). The Bible’s answer The Bible says: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalm 146:4) Therefore, when we die, we cease to exist. The dead can’t think, act, or feel anything. “To dust you will return” God explained what happens when we die when he spoke to the first man, Adam. Because Adam was disobedient, God said to him: “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) Before God created Adam “out of dust from the ground,” Adam did not exist. (Genesis 2:7) Likewise, when Adam died, he returned to dust and ceased to exist. The same thing happens to those who die now. Speaking of both humans and animals, the Bible says: “They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.”—Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20. Death is not necessarily the end of everything The Bible often compares death to sleep. (Psalm 13:3; John 11:11-14; Acts 7:60) A person who is fast asleep is unaware of what is happening around him. Likewise, the dead are not conscious of anything. Yet, the Bible teaches that God can awaken the dead as if from sleep and give them life again. (Job 14:13-15) For those whom God resurrects, death is not the end of everything. I am a Jehovah's witness and I'll like to have further discussions with you. Incase you don't have a Bible to check the Bible verses you can read the Bible online on www.jw.org 3 Likes |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by oglalasioux(m): 4:47pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
dfrost: I'll never ridicule anyone or any group. I've posted on this forum before that I respect whatever anyone believe so far that belief doesn't affect another person. I raised an instance where I said I can never be against Shekau and his Boko haram gang if they believe they are going to heaven to meet seventeen virgins. The problem I have with Shekau is that he insists he must kill innocent people to achieve that. Our belief as Christians is another problem. Do we believe everything wrong in the world is as a result of Adam and Eve eating a fruit? I'll give you a vivid instance. During world war 2, at a ghetto in Warsaw, Hitler's SS surrounded a Jewish community to annihilate them. The Jewish Rabbis urged everyone to surrender because it was written in the Torah that the Jews will be killed. Some secular Jews said okay; those who believe in the Torah should stay. They fought their way out of the ghetto and escaped while the religious Jews were all killed or transported to a concentration camp. That's what religion can do to you when you believe everything is predestined because of the sins of Adam and Eve. It's happening here in Nigeria; once a family member hits it big no one wants to work again. They say it's that person's destiny to be rich and take care of others. It's the bane of corruption in Africa. I don't have any problem with religion or churches. What I have a problem with is the impact of their teachings to the society. 1 Like |
Re: Things I Learnt From Jehovah's Witnesses, Memorial Of Christ Death! by okitz4(m): 4:47pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
TeddyPendergrass:why bother Urself,? this man is an apostate 1 Like |
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