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Achorise:
they need help, help them.I was once a member, since I met JESUS my life has changed tremendously. look for a good church to know God better.

You met jesus, where

Achorise:
you said I spread lies by viewing my opinions it an insult. I have never said anything against YOU inform of insult to you and your religion, I'm well brought up by and taught well.Have tasted other religious bodies to know if they lack love?

what is dis 1 saying again? oh u haven't tested other religions? or u mean me?

paulGrundy:
Funny thing is that the early church didn't do house to house preaching, they preached at market places, olympias and public squares. Mass-media is even more effective method than door to door.



Catholics, pentecostals e.t.c congregate at a church, just that I have seen NO WHERE in the bible where kingdom hall was mentioned.



Unitarians do not believe in hell fire, pentecostals don't believe in image worship, purgatory.
Oness pentecostals don't believe in trinity. Church of christ, 7th day adventist do not believe in the immortality of the soul. Watchtower blood transfusion doctrine has taken a 90% reversal change.

You claim to know the bible yet you out of ignorance have always misrepresented the bible. Who told you the early Christians didn't preach from house to house? Check your scriptures well.

okitz4:
lol, Baba we don't take instructions from one person, u claimed to be a JW before, since u have been in the faith, u should know how it is run, you are certainly saying wat u don't know and understand

Jw wanna be s everywhere.

Achorise:
Don't sound paranoid.You know the so called society controls everything, you dare not ask questions. A boy in ABK eat your communion bread and wine, he's not even a member, just an invitee to memorial service. What do you make out of it bro.I won't condem, but critically examine some of your doctrines objectively.

Is it poison? Just scrutinise yourself very well, it's made for consumption.

rottennaija:
Russel was a freemason. He extoll it in his writings without mixing words. The records is out there though the WT wouldn't want any of their Witnesses to know. But that not the point of the matter.

The matter was that jw claim that other religious groups have believes based on paganism but they themselves do not know that their 1914 doctrine is based on paganism eventhough the GB try to hide such facts. (that is aside from the fact that the calculation and date isn't correct in the first place)

Where you there did u know the man before. What's the fact about ur write up. You didn't answer my question

MoneypassGod:
By calling him an apostate u just proved his point to be true. Witnesses believe only their religion is righteous and others are doomed, even though they have no proof.

Is that how you translate apostate? Visit your dictionary asap. Thanks.

oglalasioux:
The problem with religion is it's different versions. Only lies have different versions.

visit

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121014211451AAUSEa7

ableguy:
Jw wanna be s everywhere.

bro help me see oo, first he claimed to b a JW, second he said he has met Jesus, this guy ehh, speaking different things, saying things he knows little about

BIBLESPEAKS:
Truth is static, it dsnt change, but our understanding of truth is progressive according to God's will and purpose.

Jesus taught his disciples about Gods kingdom, even before then they had read about the kingdom from the laws and prophets...still, they didn't fully understand it, all the while thinking it was a government to free the jews from the romans. It only became clearer to them after jesus died and ascended to heaven. Even we today now have a clearer understanding about God's kingdom than paul and other first century christians.

After prophet daniel had seen visions concerning the last days and he didn't understand, God told him: "as for you, daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant." - dan 12:4.

The truth about God's kingdom is static, dsnt change, but our understanding of it is progressive according to Gods will and purpose. So it is with the body of truth. So an evidence that a religion is progressive and on track is that they are always ready to adjust their understanding to be more aligned with truth. They realise that God grants understanding progressively.


unfortunately that's something people who think in human terms cnt understand. you cannot weigh the bible on a scientific scale, you cannot judge a religion with human wisdom, u'll get it all wrong.

I've explained all of these to you on older threads, but U're so consumed with lashing jehovah's witnesses. Do u know how many persons have gotten baptised since u started as yooguys and then paulgrundy and now? Its pathetic, just quit and be helped.

He obviously cannot survive without fighting the witnesses, nice question u asked him. How many persons has he baptised?

irunooboo:
shut the Bleep up and stop spamming my mentions

You seem offended.

ableguy:
You claim to know bible yet you out of ignorance has always misrepresented the bible, who told yiu the early Christians didn't preach from house to house? Check your scriptures well.

Read Act 5 vs 42 Act 20 vs 17 to 20 read your sef

okitz4:
bro help me see oo, first he claimed to b a JW, second he said he has met Jesus, this guy ehh, speaking different things, saying things he knows little about

Don't mind them.

Memyselfu2009:
Read Act 5 vs 42 Act 20 vs 17 to 20 read your sef

So you are saying the early christians didn't go from house to house?

Jaymima:
Every good tree produce good fruit. Ponder over that.

Abi ooo.

okitz4:
what is dis 1 saying again? oh u haven't tested other religions? or u mean me?

looool,Don't let ur guts push you to consume it , if you are not among the remnant, you know what you were taught.

Achorise:
looool,Don't let ur guts push you to consume it , if you are not among the remnant, you know what you were taught.

u certainly don't have any idea of ur claims, wats dvlink between remnants and our discussion?
am not remnant but sure have hope of God's Kingdom

ableguy:
You met jesus, where

I didn't meet religion I met the man behind Christianity, to you it's foolishness because its spirituality discernned.

okitz4:
u certainly don't have any idea of ur claims, wats dvlink between remnants and our discussion?
am not remnant but sure have hope of God's Kingdom

I thought you said it's meant for consumption, why not tell me why everybody is not consuming it.

okitz4:
bro help me see oo, first he claimed to b a JW, second he said he has met Jesus, this guy ehh, speaking different things, saying things he knows little about

If you meet Jesus, you will know the difference between religion which you practice and Christianity.It's a spiritual thing bro.when it happens to a man the difference will be so clear.It's not doctrinal or based on condemnation.

adorablepepple:

Check out in www.jw.org

Achorise:
I thought you said it's meant for consumption, why not tell me why everybody is not consuming it.

I understand better your intentions, you want to publicly ridicule JW u claimed to b JW, yet u don't understand d significance of d emblem? abi wen u wia a JW explanations wia not made in respect of d emblem?.... Bros we know you

@ Oglalasioux the questions raised are very interesting questions and spiritually inclined but I will recommend you to read the brochure ( A book for all people published by JW). The opening conversation and the subsequent topics discussed will fascinate you and answer all of your questions. Consider this why did the unlettered men that wrote the bible not argue about the sphericity of the earth or the physical laws of nature as well as all areas the bible touched concerning science.

ableguy:
You claim to know bible yet you out of ignorance has always misrepresented the bible, who told yiu the early Christians didn't preach from house to house? Check your scriptures well.

Since you claim that am ignorant, the onus is on you to refute my claim.

ableguy:
So you are saying the early christians didn't go from house to house?

Early christains did not proselytize by going from house to house, although they held their meetings in peoples house. Going to kingdom hall is not the same as doing preaching work. The most common method was open air evangelism e.g Jesus' sermon on the mount, peters conversion of the 3000 on the day of pentecost. JW's don't even practise it as much as they claim to follow the bible closely.

@ Oglalasioux This alone I found : the true God made mankind upright but they have sought out many schemes which includes false religion all over the place, believe in evolution believe in science that include proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, crime, violence is that the best of evolution. Massive degradation of the earth due to exploit of science. It is still argued till today is technology a curse or blessing. You decide!!!

last time I checked some of the best scientist and poet Sir Isaac Newton, Milton, the world has produced believe only selected few are going to heaven and many will enjoy life on earth. They are not just scientist that made sure their spiritual aspect of their lives are fulfilled

I wish to marry a Jehovah Witness someday because I want to raise good children. But must I have to be a member first?

favoured234:
What is conflicting about the submission?

You said,

"Jehovah witness not my thing... Awake and watchtower very educative... I like."

And I insist it's contradictory. Remember Witness' views and beliefs are promoted in those journals, especially WatchTower. So if you found the journals likable and educative, then you shouldn't be in a haste to say, "...witness not my thing."

Well, you can say you find some of their beliefs unacceptable, but however, that you find a number of articles on the journals interesting and educative. "Jehovah witness not my thing" isn't a proper way of saying you don't attend Witness.

ableguy:
Is that how you translate apostate? Visit your dictionary asap. Thanks.

An apostate is someone who renounced a belief or religion and changes to another. About 50% of jw aren't born jw, at one point in time they converted frm their former church or religion to become jw. How come u dont refer to these as apostates?

BIBLESPEAKS:
Truth is static, it dsnt change, but our understanding of truth is progressive according to God's will and purpose

Am glad you used the bolded. But the truth is that some watchtower "light" did not progress, take for example WT's teachings on superior authorities. Superior authorities were taught to be earthly authorities prior to 1929, during rutherfords presidency he said it reffered to God only. After which it's meaning was later changed to mean earthly authorities.

Romans 13:1-2 “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.”

Until 1929, the “superior authorities” or “higher powers” were correctly said by Watchtower to be the earthly rulers to whom Christians paid taxes and whose laws they were obligated to follow.

“They taught the Church to obey the laws, and to respect those in authority because of their office, even if they were not personally worthy of esteem; to pay their appointed taxes, and, except where they conflicted with God’s laws (Acts 4:19; 5:29), to offer no resistance to any established law. (Rom. 13:1-7; Matt. 22:21)” Studies In the Scriptures Series I - The Divine Plan of the Ages p.266

“The Bible directs the followers of Jesus to be subject to the powers that be. (Romans 13:1-7; 1 Peter 2:13-17) But while seeking to be thus law-abiding in every respect, Christians are to recognize that there is still a higher law and a still higher Ruler, and are to be subject to the worldly powers only in the absence of a contrary admonition from the Higher Power - from God.” Watch Tower 1916 Jan 15

With one of Rutherford’s revelations, this changed in 1929.

“The instruction of the thirteenth chapter of Romans has long been misapplied. The improper application has really been the basis for the false doctrine of the “divine right of kings” or rulers to rule and oppress the people. The apostle is, in substance, telling the members of the church that they should always be obedient to God, and that the motive for such obedience must be love for God and a delight in doing’ his will.” Watchtower 1929 Jun 1 p.163

“Both of these scriptures have reference to the government, order and discipline in the organization of the Lord. Applying these words to earthly governments has been misleading and wrongful so far as Christians are concerned.” Watchtower 1929 Jun 15 p.183

From 1929 to 1962, the Superior Authorities became “the Most High God Jehovah and his exalted Son Jesus Christ.” (This Means Everlasting Life (1950) p.197)

Jesus taught his disciples about Gods kingdom, even before then they had read about the kingdom from the laws and prophets...still, they didn't fully understand it, all the while thinking it was a government to free the jews from the romans. It only became clearer to them after jesus died and ascended to heaven. Even we today now have a clearer understanding about God's kingdom than paul and other first century christians.

After prophet daniel had seen visions concerning the last days and he didn't understand, God told him: "as for you, daniel, keep the words secret, and seal up the book until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant." - dan 12:4.

You have rightly spoken, but then the question is how many of the apostles writings/expectation turned out to be incorrect? None. Daniel may not have fully understood the scriptures, but all the parts/flashes of light apportioned to him turned out to be accurate and correct. Can we say the same of the watchtower?

The truth about God's kingdom is static, dsnt change, but our understanding of it is progressive according to Gods will and purpose. So it is with the body of truth. So an evidence that a religion is progressive and on track is that they are always ready to adjust their understanding to be more aligned with truth. They realise that God grants understanding progressively.

Brighter light is not unique to witnesses alone, Catholics, church of christ, 7th day adventist hold same view, but theirs builds on itself, if a "light" does not build on itself, it is not from God, it is just a mere reflection of a small groups opinion.
Moreover God can never include lies and falsehoods in his light. Some incorrect predictions e.g end of the world in 1975, turned incorrect can NEVER be from God, you know why? Because God can never lie.

unfortunately that's something people who think in human terms cnt understand. you cannot weigh the bible on a scientific scale, you cannot judge a religion with human wisdom, u'll get it all wrong.

So what is the authorised scale to judge religions?

I've explained all of these to you on older threads, but U're so consumed with lashing jehovah's witnesses. Do u know how many persons have gotten baptised since u started as yooguys and then paulgrundy and now? Its pathetic, just quit and be helped.

You haven't explained anything to me, I guess you explained it to Yooguyz.

I have equally told you a lot of times that I am NOT yooguyz.

For the guy who says that preachingfrom house to house is not in the bible......Please read Acts 20 vs 20 and Acts 5 vs 42 from your own bible versions.If really you wanna know about jw just ask one of them or visit our website www.jw.org