₦airaland Forum

ableguy:
Why would someone even go as far as opening a site just to criticise JWs , I told the reason. You all are slanders. Why can't you just do without copying and pasting another man's thought.

I don't know about paul Grundy's motive for opening the thread, check up on him on jwfacts.com. I don't know about yooguyz' motive and rottenaija. But I copy and paste from grundy's website because its accurate, honest and shows both sides of the story compared to jw.org, although its highly critical of JW's, besides I admire him a lot that's why I adopted his name as my nairaland monicker.

I personally have a strong hatred for lies and all manner of falsehoods right from when I was small, sometimes I feel that I am called to the ministry to attacking all manner of falsehoods. In my church I was barred from moderating any segment in church because I spoke against tithing and exposed how pastors use unbiblical methods to raise money. I have written against so many falsehoods not just in JW but also against Islam and mormons but my articles have been deleted and I was even barred once, except for my JW articles. I don't believe that denomination is the way to salvation, but denominational people can be saved.

ableguy:
So that what would happen? Continue in your ways, create as many sites as you want. Keep on slandering, see jehovah's witnesses see you.

You see, you couldn't provide an answer because you know you were telling lies.

oglalasioux:
Brilliant question.

You told us how you enjoyed Jehovah's Witnesses' teachings. I pointed out to you that the things you learnt will leave you more confused.

My point. Religion (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) is a Jewish scam. The bible doesn't answer any of mankind's questions;

1. Why are we here?
2. How did we get here?
3. Why are we in different races and languages?
4. Why are they disasters and wars?
5. What is consciousness?
6. Why are some poor and some rich and some in between?
7. Why is religion proliferating by the day?
8. What happens after death?
9. Is there a devil and hell?
10. Is there a heaven and God as the religions want us to believe?

Dare to tell me religion has given you a satisfactory answer to any of the above questions except quoting from a bible that is decadent and divided and leaving you more confused.

If the bible has a satisfactory answer why does different denominations give different answers to these questions?

Mr u said "The bible doesn't answer any of mankind's questions". U again said "a bible that is decadent and divided and leaving you more confused.". Now, u ended up saying "If the bible has a satisfactory answer why does different denominations give different answers to these questions?". Can u see clearly now dat u r complicating urself? Which human being will think & reason like dis that wn't get confused & abnormal? Hw can u xpect a book dat u dn't trust to now give u a satisfying answer? HOW? Anyways, whether u acpt it or not, d fact remains dat d bible can give u reliable & accurate ans to mankinds big questions. That I'm overly sure of.
Now to ur questions, if only u r serious & want to learn frm d bible directly, call any of d witnesses wen dey r passing ur area & throw ur ques @ dem & see how u'll b clearified with d aid of a bible. Even many of their kids can ans some of ur ques which is nt obtainable in our day to day churches.

ableguy:
That means he is one, right? You just alluded to the fact, so why make issue?

Never heard a jw refer to another jw as an apostate. Its pathetic dat u just made dat up.

astute07:
What prophesy do we make up? We don't prophesier; we tell others abt bible prophesies & its coming to pass; if u blind to notice.@ matt24:4-14; matt24:36-37.
Just wake up from ur Choking fantasy.

Its obvious u dont even know ur history. Ur type na follow follow.

jurjur:
Now u see y dey never bothered about u wen u left? Simply cus u choosed never to ever learn in your whole miserable life. Now, how is their bible different? Rumour-mongers like u go about spreading false info abt som1 without confirming d authenticity of d msg. I have conpared their bible even d most recent edition with other bibles & they convey same msgs unless if u dn't undrstnd simple english. It might interest u to know that their's is even much preferable to others if u r a lover of english lang. They always modify their english to suit d most recent english still passing exactly same info. Ain't u supposed to b very thankful to them for that? Many children that can read fluently finds it very difilcult to read other translations cus of those "thou,thine,thee,etc" & as a result, d msg frm God's word won't be passed. But give that same child JW bible & see d benefit.

Now u said it's a strong spiritual bondage. How come u were able to leave without anyone casting & binding, screwing & loosing? My brother, if it's as u said it, I'm soooo sure u must hav been a lunatic by now.
Call them & ask for clearification on any of their teachings u dn't undrstnd

@jurjur

Its just a shame to see how you guys claim to be jw's but insult and use disparaging word at people for no reason. someone makes an assertion, would it not be more ideal to refute such assertion objectively than calling him "Miserable Life", "Lunatic". and tmrw use the mouth to want them to listen to ur preaching.

paulGrundy:
I don't know about paul Grundy's motive for opening the thread, check up on him on jwfacts.com. I don't know about yooguyz' motive and rottenaija. But I copy and paste from grundy's website because its accurate, honest and shows both sides of the story compared to jw.org, although its highly critical of JW's, besides I admire him a lot that's why I adopted his name as my nairaland monicker.

I personally have a strong hatred for lies and all manner of falsehoods right from when I was small, sometimes I feel that I am called to the ministry to attacking all manner of falsehoods. In my church I was barred from moderating any segment in church because I spoke against tithing and exposed how pastors use unbiblical methods to raise money. I have written against so many falsehoods not just in JW but also against Islam and mormons but my articles have been deleted and I was even barred once, except for my JW articles. I don't believe that denomination is the way to salvation, but denominational people can be saved.

You took the moniker of someone who wrote entirely against the witnesses, you wrote many articles and threads denouncing falsehoods but only the ones against witnesses are not deleted.

Maybe you should relax on witnesses and recreate those other threads, so that your war against falsehood can be more encompassing.

Ku ise.

rabzy:
You took the moniker of someone who wrote entirely against the witnesses, you wrote many articles and threads denouncing falsehoods but only the ones against witnesses are not deleted.

Maybe you should relax on witnesses and recreate those other threads, so that your war against falsehood can be more encompassing.

Ku ise.

MoneypassGod:
Its obvious u dont even know ur history. Ur type na follow follow.

Really; if so; u cud v amazed me by giving example. Wat an idiocy type u R

paulGrundy:
I don't know about paul Grundy's motive for opening the thread, check up on him on jwfacts.com. I don't know about yooguyz' motive and rottenaija. But I copy and paste from grundy's website because its accurate, honest and shows both sides of the story compared to jw.org, although its highly critical of JW's, besides I admire him a lot that's why I adopted his name as my nairaland monicker.

I personally have a strong hatred for lies and all manner of falsehoods right from when I was small, sometimes I feel that I am called to the ministry to attacking all manner of falsehoods. In my church I was barred from moderating any segment in church because I spoke against tithing and exposed how pastors use unbiblical methods to raise money. I have written against so many falsehoods not just in JW but also against Islam and mormons but my articles have been deleted and I was even barred once, except for my JW articles. I don't believe that denomination is the way to salvation, but denominational people can be saved.

You need help why claim to hate something and yet follow up with its articles. That's selfish of u; I must say: makes u a big HYPOCRITE

oglalasioux:
A Jehovah's witness will NEVER touch any other bible except the New World Translation which they translated themselves. Their reason is nothing but to twist the lie their own way.

Hmm hmmm hmmmm! Hehehehehehehe! It still baffles me that homans can still be dis senseless in this modern world. How can a grown up lik u b spreading unconfirmed info abt an organisation u know ntin bout? If dey go to study d bible wit pple @ their homes & d person owns a bible, u can hardly see dem use their own bible (JW's bible) cus dey want u the house owner 2 c 4 urself dat what dey r sayn is deeply rooted in d scripture & nt of their own making. Mr man stop spreading lies cus ......... Anyway, y am I even being surprised wen I know u originate frm ur father. Mtcheeewww!

jurjur:
Oga dat site is not their site but it's owned by one of their previous member who misbehaved & was disciplined. Instead of repenting from his bad ways, he choose to b an apostate & publicize falsehood against dem. Their site is Jw.org. U can still read abt their history & other infos there. U can still discuss wit dem face to face

hmmmm history of? Oh Russell's miracle wheat seed scam?

paulGrundy:
You see, you couldn't provide an answer because you know you were telling lies.

oboy u still de here? You tough ooo. Leave those people o, na their own be the best, upon all the back to back false prohecies!
They cant even prove any of your points wrong for that matter.

astute07:
Really; if so; u cud v amazed me by giving example. Wat an idiocy type u R

Below is one of d many failed prophecies by ur beloved governing body frm a 1909 Watchtower publication;

''...In view of this strong bible evidence concerning the times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A.D. 1914. Then the prayer of the church, ever since her lord took his departure- 'Thy kingdom come'- will be answered; and under that just administration, the whole earth will be filled with the glory of the Lord- with knowledge, righteousness and peace (Psa. 72:19; Isa. 6:3; hab. 2:14); and the will of God shall be done 'on earth as it is done in Heaven.'''

1914 passed and the Watchtower association had to deal with the fact that it had brought neither ''the final end of the kingdoms of this world,'' nor ''the full establishment of the kingdom of God.''

Like I said b4, u dont know ur history, u just follow every crap u r told like a blind sheep.

MoneypassGod:
Below is one of d many failed prophecies by ur beloved governing body frm a 1909 Watchtower publication;

''...In view of this strong bible evidence concerning the times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A.D. 1914. Then the prayer of the church, ever since her lord took his departure- 'Thy kingdom come'- will be answered; and under that just administration, the whole earth will be filled with the glory of the Lord- with knowledge, righteousness and peace (Psa. 72:19; Isa. 6:3; hab. 2:14); and the will of God shall be done 'on earth as it is done in Heaven.'''

1914 passed and the Watchtower association had to deal with the fact that it had brought neither ''the final end of the kingdoms of this world,'' nor ''the full establishment of the kingdom of God.''

Like I said b4, u dont know ur history, u just follow every crap u r told like a blind sheep.

Like am still telling u; up till this very moment u d blind one; get ur facts straight.so is this d only one against d JW.phewww give ur self some brains; & get to know ur bible more better.u with such diocy one of a slackened history.
I can imagine with ur (wat shud I call it) name.U so backward; pls update ur facts.U so left behind.

astute07:
Like am still telling u; up till this very moment u d blind one; get ur facts straight.so is this d only one against d JW.phewww give ur self some brains; & get to know ur bible more better.u with such diocy one of a slackened history.
I can imagine with ur (wat shud I call it) name.U so backward; pls update ur facts.U so left behind.

I just gave u a fact about ur scam history since u didn't know, and all u did was to repeat what i said. are u that dumb??

okitz4:
I understand better your intentions, you want to publicly ridicule JW u claimed to b JW, yet u don't understand d significance of d emblem? abi wen u wia a JW explanations wia not made in respect of d emblem?.... Bros we know you

look @ you,what a level of hypocrisy I see in you,you guys slaughter churches on your pulpit,by that building hatred among your members for churches,80% of your teachings is against Christendom,you criticise every doctrine of churches to your members,and close their minds from seeing the tenacity and faith of other religion.

Now,you are angry cos of my opinion about your emblem.

you hardly see a church discussing JW on their alters every Sunday,or their doctrines,But you guys can not do without destroying churches on your pulpits.

astute07:
You need help why claim to hate something and yet follow up with its articles. That's selfish of u; I must say: makes u a big HYPOCRITE

Just because the watchtower claims to have the complete truth doesn't mean all she teaches is the truth. A liar would would claim that he is saying the truth. Talk is cheap. If you claim that paulGrundy's articles are falsehoods, then show me ONE example of a falsehood. The problem is that the society has trained you to believe that everything that she doesn't tell you are lies.

irunooboo:
I was disfellowshiped in 2010 after i slept with an elder and a ministerial servant while the others were reproved I am attending christ embassy now and God has truly shown me the way

Chaii! Poor orphan! How I wish ur parents r still alive to witness how their disowned daughter's brain is reading anti-clockwise. mmhhH! Such a pity! U r just but an apology to womanhood & a disgrace to ur family. U were disciplined by d only church in d world dat does not condone evil & immoral practices. Instead of showing a spirit of repentance, all u cud do is 2 move on to d ones dat hav no regards 4 morals & u even have d temerity, d chutzper, d hardihood 2 come here & open dat gutter u call mouth to even say it? Chaiii! U must have hailed frm sodom & gomorrah.

oglalasioux:
You that have searched the scriptures give me just an answer to one of the questions I put up.

Okay. I'll give you time to ask people you think knows the bible if you don't know.

I'm particularly waiting for a Jehovah's Witness answer.

Hmm hmmm! Na Waooo! Since u are particularly waiting for a JW to giv a response, y not b reasonable & man enof 2 invite dem over so u'll look straight into their eyeballs & throw ur ques @ dem. Any big deal in dat? Abg wake up & stop sleeping on d bicycle

jurjur:
Chaii! Poor orphan! How I wish ur parents r still alive to witness how their disowned daughter's brain is reading anti-clockwise. mmhhH! Such a pity! U r just but an apology to womanhood & a disgrace to ur family. U were disciplined by d only church in d world dat does not condone evil & immoral practices. Instead of showing a spirit of repentance, all u cud do is 2 move on to d ones dat hav no regards 4 morals & u even have d temerity, d chutzper, d hardihood 2 come here & open dat gutter u call mouth to even say it? Chaiii! U must have hailed frm sodom & gomorrah.

are u really a christain? I doubt if u're a witness or maybe thats the true code of conduct amongst witnesses and you just displayed it here. Ironooboo aint real, she is just an internet troll, nothing of such ever happened. If this is really how witnesses behave although you just proved me right, then yours is a sorry case bro!! So much hate. I pity

astute07:
Like am still telling u; up till this very moment u d blind one; get ur facts straight.so is this d only one against d JW.phewww give ur self some brains; & get to know ur bible more better.u with such diocy one of a slackened history.
I can imagine with ur (wat shud I call it) name.U so backward; pls update ur facts.U so left behind.

astute07:
Like am still telling u; up till this very moment u d blind one; get ur facts straight.so is this d only one against d JW.phewww give ur self some brains; & get to know ur bible more better.u with such diocy one of a slackened history.
I can imagine with ur (wat shud I call it) name.U so backward; pls update ur facts.U so left behind.

lol...which fact is there to update? Does the truth "auto-updates?"
madam answer him and stop abusing him, they have put facts before u, why dont you just prove him wrong with your own facts, does all your insults nullify his points?
Why did Russell always treat his wife like piece of sh,i.t? Didn't the bible ask husbands and wives to submit to one another?
Russell went against that in all ramification!
What do you have to say about all his messy divorce saga and his miracle wheat seeds?
According to Russel, the Holy spirit is present in his organisation i.e JW only, so why then did all the Holy spirit inspired didnt come to pass?
Or did the Holy spirit lie?
Funny

Omagzee:
lol...which fact is there to update? Does the truth "auto-updates?"
madam answer him and stop abusing him, they have put facts before u, why dont you just prove him wrong with your own facts, does all your insults nullify his points?
Why did Russell always treat his wife like piece of sh,i.t? Didn't the bible ask husbands and wives to submit to one another?
Russell went against that in all ramification!
What do you have to say about all his messy divorce saga and his miracle wheat seeds?
According to Russel, the Holy spirit is present in his organisation i.e JW only, so why then did all the Holy spirit inspired didnt come to pass?
Or did the Holy spirit lie?
Funny

I never knew u stayed with Russell back in d days to know d full details than a one sided story.How nice keep on telling me tales of 1914 saga.u damn old.

MoneypassGod:
Below is one of d many failed prophecies by ur beloved governing body frm a 1909 Watchtower publication;

''...In view of this strong bible evidence concerning the times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the kingdom of God, will be accomplished at the end of A.D. 1914. Then the prayer of the church, ever since her lord took his departure- 'Thy kingdom come'- will be answered; and under that just administration, the whole earth will be filled with the glory of the Lord- with knowledge, righteousness and peace (Psa. 72:19; Isa. 6:3; hab. 2:14); and the will of God shall be done 'on earth as it is done in Heaven.'''

1914 passed and the Watchtower association had to deal with the fact that it had brought neither ''the final end of the kingdoms of this world,'' nor ''the full establishment of the kingdom of God.''

Like I said b4, u dont know ur history, u just follow every crap u r told like a blind sheep.

Y re-write a watchtower u obviously don't understand.to prive ur self more worth y don't u add up d site u took ur little myopic version of ur story on 1909.

unlike you; I don't follow; i get facts & updates with my personal research esp on Bible prophesies.& u really d blind one here; taking notes & craps on hearsay which u call what-- history.

Plss; park well; get ur facts straights click on JW.org for more basic findings.

Omagzee:
lol...which fact is there to update? Does the truth "auto-updates?"
madam answer him and stop abusing him, they have put facts before u, why dont you just prove him wrong with your own facts, does all your insults nullify his points?
Why did Russell always treat his wife like piece of sh,i.t? Didn't the bible ask husbands and wives to submit to one another?
Russell went against that in all ramification!


What do you have to say about all his messy divorce saga and his miracle wheat seeds?
According to Russel, the Holy spirit is present in his organisation i.e JW only, so why then did all the Holy spirit inspired didnt come to pass?
Or did the Holy spirit lie?
Funny

Rant Rant lies falsify quotes;like really;R u that backward to still believe on hearsays.bros get ur fact straight inasmuch; u where never there to witness live on his marriage. Secondly go to Jw.org to get real facts on origin & Russell.

astute07:
Y re-write a watchtower u obviously don't understand.to prive ur self more worth y don't u add up d site u took ur little myopic version of ur story on 1909.

unlike you; I don't follow; i get facts & updates with my personal research esp on Bible prophesies.& u really d blind one here; taking notes & craps on hearsay which u call what-- history.

Plss; park well; get ur facts straights click on JW.org for more basic findings.

U do personal research and yet u know nothing about ur history. Do urself a favour, meet one of ur elders and ask him if jw ever made prophecies that didn't come to pass. Or better still type ''failed prophecies by jw'' on google. U will be amazed by d results.

jurjur:
Chaii! Poor orphan! How I wish ur parents r still alive to witness how their disowned daughter's brain is reading anti-clockwise. mmhhH! Such a pity! U r just but an apology to womanhood & a disgrace to ur family. U were disciplined by d only church in d world dat does not condone evil & immoral practices. Instead of showing a spirit of repentance, all u cud do is 2 move on to d ones dat hav no regards 4 morals & u even have d temerity, d chutzper, d hardihood 2 come here & open dat gutter u call mouth to even say it? Chaiii! U must have hailed frm sodom & gomorrah.

Fuccck you bastard

Why d rain of abusive words?

astute07:
Rant Rant lies falsify quotes;like really;R u that backward to still believe on hearsays.bros get ur fact straight inasmuch; u where never there to witness live on his marriage. Secondly go to Jw.org to get real facts on origin & Russell.

astute07:
Rant Rant lies falsify quotes;like really;R u that backward to still believe on hearsays.bros get ur fact straight inasmuch; u where never there to witness live on his marriage. Secondly go to Jw.org to get real facts on origin & Russell.

i think you're the backward one here. Make your own personal research, oh! Your church forbids that. Your website hid alot of details about him just to keep members in the dark.
What a pity. But this doesnt change the fact that Russell was a wierd fellow and a false teacher and there is nothing you can do to remove it from history!

astute07:
I never knew u stayed with Russell back in d days to know d full details than a one sided story.How nice keep on telling me tales of 1914 saga.u damn old.

you'r damn old, you're this , you're that. That is all you can say. But the truth stands whether young or old. The early founders of JW were false teachers who claimed the Holy spirit inspired them to prophesy-prophecies that never came to pass. You sound pained, but speak with elders, confront them, ask them, and send mails to J.W for answers...... Ohhh! you will be disfellowshipped for doing that!

When some want to find fault, they need to dig false or manipulated stories of people that existed when my father was not even born. I ju ba for una. If you cant present facts using the scriptures that counters someones beliefs, why present stories of the past, the answer is that you are just desperate to make them look bad!

I tell me you what I believe now, you want to counter it with what others who lived before I was born believed. I tell you what I do now, but you want talk about what some people who died before I was born did.

You say their believes where wrong, I say my believes are different, yet you are angry with me for adjusting the believes you claim where wrong.
If you believe my present beliefs are wrong,why can't you bring up facts to counter what I believe in.

Omagzee:
i think you're the backward one here. Make your own personal research, oh! Your church forbids that. Your website hid alot of details about him just to keep members in the dark.
What a pity. But this doesnt change the fact that Russell was a wierd fellow and a false teacher and there is nothing you can do to remove it from history!

how did you knw about russell? pls explain.