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Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 10:25pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
politricks: Exposing ignorance in annoyance can't take you anywhere as you couldn't find the means to discredit the truth and thwart Christian faith. Go and read when Christ followers were called Christians and what made them earned the name - being christ-like; they were not called the name for being violent and discredited people. You still have long way to go, just let be doing it in part! 1 Like |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:51pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Rexyl:And that was the only thing you could pick from my post. Address my other points because it seems you are the only one that here that knows how to defend your religion. Your other supporters are avoiding my posts. Probably they are on their way to question their pastors. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by checkolatunji: 10:58pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus: You get sense @all? Must you fabricate lies nii? Where you take get all this rubbish wey you dey spill out? Ogbeni go take your usual Tramadol make you go dull on top your bed. Dumb Skull |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 11:28pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
checkolatunji: You can confirm it from your newspaper called Quran. If Mary the mother of Jesus is Aaron's sister, that makes her Moses' sister since Moses and Aaron are brothers. So, the Quran is indirectly saying that Moses is Jesus' uncle. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:35pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:Only 3 errors? Cool!!! Now take these errors from the bible. it will take you a lifetime to defend each. I will give you in four batches because i swear to God my phone hanged when i copied it at once. GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness. GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day. GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created. GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created. GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created. GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created. GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created. GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created. GE 1:26 Man is to have dominion over fish, birds, cattle, and all wild animals, yet-- GE 2:15-17 It is wrong to be able to tell good from evil, right from wrong. GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time. GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later. GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction. LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.) GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation. GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation. (Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience as well as with the fact that God allegedly does not change his mind: NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17.) GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:36pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses. EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses. GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit. GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years. GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil. HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil. GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's. 2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike. GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is. PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view. GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god. EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire. EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god. LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing. NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce. 2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it." |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:37pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him." 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love. GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self- control. GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord. JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth. GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood. GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood. NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood. GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind. NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind. GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark. GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark. GE 7:1 Noah was righteous. JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous. LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous. JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective). 1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians). RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous. GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark. GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?). |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:38pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:GE 11:7-9 God sows discord. PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord. GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world. 1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion. GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah. LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah. GE 11:26 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born. GE 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time). GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years. GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen. EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God's face and live. No one has ever seen him. GE 10:5, 20, 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel. GE 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel. GE 15:9, EX 20:24, 29:10-42, LE 1:1-7:38, NU 28:1-29:40, God details sacrificial offerings. JE 7:21-22 God says he did no such thing. GE 16:15, 21:1-3, GA 4:22 Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac. HE 11:17 Abraham had only one son. GE 17:1, 35:11, 1CH 29:11-12, LK 1:37 God is omnipotent. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God. JG 1:19 Although God was with Judah, together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots. GE 17:7, 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting. GA 6:15 It is of no consequence. GE 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession." GE 25:8, AC 7:2-5, HE 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled. GE 17:15-16, 20:11-12, 22:17 |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 11:39pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:Abraham and his half sister, Sarai, are married and receive God's blessings. LE 20:17, DT 27:20-23 Inbreeding is wrong. GE 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on. PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view. GE 19:30-38 While he is drunk, Lot's two daughters "lie with him," become pregnant, and give birth to his offspring. 2PE 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous." GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses. JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt). 1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations. JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one. GE 27:28 "May God give you ... an abundance of grain and new wine." DT 7:13 If they follow his commandments, God will bless the fruit of their wine. PS 104:15 God gives us wine to gladden the heart. JE 13:12 "... every bottle shall be filled with wine." JN 2:1-11 According to the author of John, Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine. RO 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine. GE 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer; henceforth his name is Israel. GE 46:2 At a later time, God himself uses the name Jacob. GE 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz. GE 36:15-16 Teman, Omar, Zepho, Kenaz. 1CH 1:35-36 Teman, Omar, Zephi, Gatam, Kenaz, Timna, and Amalek. GE 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Zebulun, Issachar, Dan, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Joseph, and Benjamin. RE 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan, but adds Manasseh.) GE 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite. AC 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem, bought from the sons of Hamor. EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in- law of Moses. NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses. EX 3:20-22, DT 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians, to plunder their enemies. EX 20:15, 17, LE 19:13 God prohibits stealing, defrauding, or robbing a neighbor. EX 4:11 God decides who will be dumb, deaf, blind, etc. 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love. EX 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians. EX 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils. EX 12:12, 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed. EX 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed, then afflicted with boils, and then their first-born cattle destroyed, the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback. EX 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them. PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from God. EX 12:37, NU 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600,000. Allowing for women, children, and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2,000,000 Israelites left Egypt. 1KI 20:15 All the Israelites, including children, number only 7000 at a later time. EX 15:3, 17:16, NU 25:4, 32:14, IS 42:13 God is a man of war--he is fierce and angry. RO 15:33, 2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is a god of love and peace. EX 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary). GA 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary). EX 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever. EX 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images. EX 20:5, 34:7, NU 14:18, DT 5:9, IS 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins. DT 24:16, EZ 18:19-20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins. EX 20:8-11, 31:15-17, 35:1-3 No work is to be done on the Sabbath, not even lighting a fire. The commandment is permanent, and death is required for infractions. MK 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized for breaking the Sabbath). RO 14:5, CN 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath commandment was temporary, and to decide for yourself regarding its observance. EX 20:12, DT 5:16, MT 15:4, 19:19, MK 7:10, 10:19, LK 18:20 Honor your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments. It is reinforced by Jesus. MT 10:35-37, LK 12:51-53, 14:26 Jesus says that he has come to divide families; that a man's foes will be those of his own household; that you must hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and even your own life to be a disciple. MT 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth your father. EX 20:13, DT 5:17, MK 10:19, LK 18:20, RO 13:9, JA 2:11 God prohibits killing. GE 34:1-35:5 God condones trickery and killing. EX 32:27, DT 7:2, 13:15, 20:1-18 God orders killing. 2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord slaughters 185,000 men. (Note: See Atrocities section for many more examples.) EX 20:14 God prohibits adultery. HO 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry." EX 21:23-25, LE 24:20, DT 19:21 A life for a life, an eye for an eye, etc. MT 5:38-44, LK 6:27-29 Turn the other cheek. Love your enemies. EX 23:7 God prohibits the killing of the innocent. NU 31:17-18, DT 7:2, JS 6:21-27, 7:19-26, 8:22-25, 10:20, 40, 11:8-15, 20, JG 11:30-39, 21:10-12, 1SA 15:3 God orders or approves the complete extermination of groups of people which include innocent women and/or children. (Note: See Atrocities section for many other examples of the killing of innocents.) EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie. NU 14:30 God breaks his promise. EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie. 1KI 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception. EX 34:6, DT 7:9-10, TS 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. He does not lie. 2TH 2:11-12 God deludes people, making them believe what is false, so as to be able to condemn them. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. The context makes clear, however, that deception is involved.) [Mehn! C thousands of errors in just 1 book they claim to b God's word. Christianity itself is blasphemous to God Almighty] |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by maverickboy: 11:43pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:Mr, you've got many claims up there and I hope you will be able to defend them with me. so let's do it one after the other. 1. Is ablution alien to Judaism and Christianity as far as bible is concerned? 1 Like |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 12:19am On Mar 23, 2016 |
maverickboy: Of course |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 12:22am On Mar 23, 2016 |
@politricks, your Quran's error is much it's just dat dere iz no much time nd I was already asleep before you replied my first post... But I will take each slowly... |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 9:11am On Mar 23, 2016 |
When the truth has been stated and some people are still struggling to believe it, then it's up to them if they would choose to beleive the errors and live by lies all their lives. Politricks Yeah all you have quoted as errors in the Bible and which made you to condemn it are for the rise and fall of the ignorant and to pierce the hearts of the fools, making it harder for them to believe so that their sorrow will multiple for rejecting simple truth. Better understanding and correct Interpretation of those verses are given to spiritual people. The more you stress yourself to find faults, the more your sorrow will be. I am not exaggerating or harsh, just saying the plain truth. Again don't think this is a silly conclusion, it's just the best option to leave for the ignorant. If you conderm Bible I wonder where you have placed Quran, do you mean it just emerged from nowhere? You have just complicated issues about your faith. Yeah plainly stated... Christ first miracle... turning water to wine...meaning what? Bible condernming wine, how come? The Spirit of God telling Peter to kill and eat, while he should stop thinking certain animals are unclean... What is the divine response? That why Jesus would speak in parables and only a few or none could understand what he meant, because they are spiritually and in some cases mentally lacking to comprehend what the Spirit was saying Man your situation will be like the Ethiopian steward, who wanted to know God's message, but couldn't understand with the time and energy spent to get the meaning. God knew he could never understand if not helped out. That's why he sent Philip to interpret the prophesy he had preserved for long (Isaiah 53). You too can read it and come up with another argument. God is in heaven where he does as pleased and his thought no man can understand. He can either save or punish you for ignorant. That is why he is God. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:04am On Mar 23, 2016 |
Rexyl:So if i were to convert to christianity(God forbid) and i needed some clarification about these things, is this the trash you will write? |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 10:09am On Mar 23, 2016 |
politricks: As stated before the word of God was like trash to that Ethiopian eunuch. Only God can save you and others like you if he wills. Man your situation will be like the Ethiopian steward, who wanted to know God's message, but couldn't understand with the time and energy spent to get the meaning. God knew he could never understand if not helped out. That's why he sent Philip to interpret the prophesy he had preserved for long (Isaiah 53). You too can read it and come up with another argument. God is in heaven where he does as pleased and his thought no man can understand. He can either save or punish you for ignorant. That is why he is God. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:24am On Mar 23, 2016 |
Rexyl:Please stop spamming my mentions you are not making any sense. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 10:41am On Mar 23, 2016 |
politricks: Hope you are not defeated. God's word making no sense to you again? I wish to handle the spiritual aspect while others are making clarifications based on history. Man, you need Bible. By the time more truths are emerging you will run. Do you know gifts are diverse according to the Bible you have condemned. By the time others too begin to show you the way, the truth and the life, you will be overwhelmed. How can rat be placed before elephant? |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by politricks: 10:51am On Mar 23, 2016 |
Rexyl:Defeated? More like irritated. Prove those errors are not errors afterall or forever hold your peace don't give me the holy spirit bullshit because the bible was written in plain english. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Rexyl(m): 11:24am On Mar 23, 2016 |
politricks: That's why It requires complete reading and spiritual understanding of the Bible to know what God means at a particular time. The messages meant for a particular time may be different from those meant for a generation and those meant for eternity. Those messages you collated as errors are meant to achieve purposes for which they are stated. Christians have moved past to know the truth and pursue eternal goal. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 8:52pm On Mar 26, 2016 |
@politricks You did copy and paste. I can defend everything you posted.... You were supposed to bring them one after the other cos' it might take time going through all. And point of correction, the bible was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and not English..... Maybe I will have to take each point one after the other..... |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by SUPERPACK: 9:24pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
lordnicklaus:hope u are nt compiling an encyclopedia. |
Re: Pagan Roots/origins Of Islam by Nobody: 9:07am On Mar 29, 2016 |
No@superpack |
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