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Re: PDP & South’s Hope For The 2019 Presidential Election: Zakzaky by jpphilips(m):
author=ShiaMuslim post=44004690]

first assumption dismissed: I did not have Islamic studies. I understand English very well, and you too should understand English I believe.
I dont believe you, if you understood any English, you will not misquote a clear statement I made in simple English.


when it is said Nigerian Shia Muslims are not of the Zaidi Shia sub-group or school of thought or religious persuasion referred to as "Fivers", but Mainstream Shia "Twelvers", that includes every Nigerian Shia including Zakzaky. you can check on the IMN's official website. they mark events that have to do with ALL the 12 holy Imams of the Prophet Muhammad's progeny as the mainstream Shia (referred to as Twelvers) do. Zaidis only believe at Five Imams and do not commemorate the Imams starting with the sixth to the twelfth. it is religious doctrine, not politics.
This is a big fat lie, Ayotallah said in one of his Friday's address that Al Zakzaky is a "Zaidi Shia" ALL Terrorists of Shia extraction are all "Zaidi" so why would Al Zakzaky be any different? Do you expect Al zakzaky to write that he is a terrorist on his website?
Can you mention any SHia terrorist that is not a "Zaidi", just one please I want to learn.



Zaidis are non-existent in Nigeria. i have not come across any website or publication related to Nigerians that claims to be Zaidi. if you still think i am wrong, i stand to be corrected. you can refer us to any such publication, and let us read. the Zaidis are a Shia sub-group found in Yemen, just as the Shia sub-group found in Syria are called Alawites, to which the Syrian president belongs to. the Shia of Yemen are called Zaidis, and the former president of Yemen, Ali Abdullah Saleh was a Zaidi.
Zaidis are not in Nigeria I have said it before, Al zakzaky is one that was sent by the Ayotallah to radicalize our peaceful Shia moderates.
He and his followers are starting a Zaidi movement in Nigeria and radicalizing other Shia in the process, how is that difficult for you to understand? Why do you think that every Government is hunting him like a rat? for fun?


what you need is to open up your mind and listen. are you above mistake and correction? you keep assuming and making up stories. these only add to your confusion. i am telling you these things not because i am pained or anything but because i know these things which are very common for any Shia Muslim to know and very basic knowledge you can read online and in many books.
The Kinda books written by Al Zakzaky and his followers you mean? give me a break!!


he is not my leader and i am not pained by his detention. i am pained by your assumptions because they are not true. Zakzaky is the leader of an organization called Islamic Movement in Nigeria. so whether you be Shia, Sunni, Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Protestant, Buddhist, Hindu, Atheist or Jehovah's Witness, if you belong to or follow or support an organization called IMN, then Zakzaky is your leader. he is therefore not the leader of every Shia in Nigeria because he is a Shia cleric or because his organization propagates Shia beliefs. you have rightly cited that Zakzaky is NOT THE ONLY Shia cleric in Nigeria. therefore not every Shia see him as his leader and not every Shia look up to him for spiritual guidance or religious knowledge. there are Shia clerics unrelated to him within and outside Nigeria. he is just one of many, and in my view he is not the most knowledgeable or most qualified when compared to Shia scholars of knowledge around the world. he just happens to be the most popular because of the number he attracts and possibly his means to reach out and win followers. it is just like the churches in Nigeria and their sizes; likewise Islamic groups (be they Sunni ones like NASFAT and Ansarud-deen or Shia ones like IMN etc.).
[/quote]You obviously don't understand English, Ayotallah speaks of Al Zakzaky on a daily basis, issuing threats to Buhari and you open your mouth saying that Zaidi radicalism is confined to Yemen alone.
Re: PDP & South’s Hope For The 2019 Presidential Election: Zakzaky by drss(m): 6:26pm On Mar 27, 2016
d persecution shia muslims ar suffering in d hands of terrorist is terrIble. any time u hear boko haram bomb mosque, check properly na shia mosque. boko haram na sunni organization. see wat they ar doing to dem in iraq, syria n pakistan, by sunni isil. na so so bomb dem dey bomb their shrine n worship centers.
sunni muslims ar d biggest problems of dis world.
Re: PDP & South’s Hope For The 2019 Presidential Election: Zakzaky by jpphilips(m):
drss:
d persecution shia muslims ar suffering in d hands of terrorist is terrIble. any time u hear boko haram bomb mosque, check properly na shia mosque. boko haram na sunni organization. see wat they ar doing to dem in iraq, syria n pakistan, by sunni isil. na so so bomb dem dey bomb their shrine n worship centers.
sunni muslims ar d biggest problems of dis world.
I don't agree with you both Suni and Shia have radicalized factions, we should do more to understand the radicalized factions other than stereotyping the whole sects, Since you know that Boko haram is a Sunni radical movement, how about Hezbollah is it not a Shia radical movement? Ansah Allah are they not Shia radicals? Al Qassan Brigade is Suni by Politics but Shia militarily, are they angels too?

Because they were dismantled in Kaduna by the one stop General Buhari does not mean they were never a threat, if you doubt the capabilities of these Shia radicals, read the history of Yemen, Lebanon and Syria.

Finally, nigerians must stand together and fight Terrorism irrespective of the divide propagating it, you made it sound like Shia extremists are angels while Sunni extremists are demons, both are evil and their operations should be condemnable.

So long as we agree that Abubakar Shekau should be destroyed, Al zakzaky must be destroyed as well, there is no double standard in the resilience of the Nigerian people in the fight against terror.
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