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LinuxMint:
how did you knw about russell? pls explain.

who are you? I owe you no explanation. If you wanna find out, google might help, wikipedia is there for you too. There are books out there u can read too. Make your own research, cus that is what I did and it paid.

Omagzee:
who are you? I owe you no explanation. If you wanna find out, google might help, wikipedia is there for you too. There are books out there u can read too. Make your own research, cus that is what I did and it paid.

lol you gave me photos? funny. give me proofs not portraits...that means you dont knw russell . stop spreading baseless lies. if u don't have a backing to your claims, keep ur opinions to urself and stop decieving people.

LinuxMint:
good.that means you dont knw russell . stop spreading baseless lies. if u don't have a backing to your claims, keep ur opinions to urself and stop decieving people.

move on bro, i posted an attachment of his photo and u saw it. I read about him from reliable source, why do we have history books? I guess everything we learnt from history is false then. Were u there when WW2 was fought? No, i guess it never happened because you were not there. Funny how you are quick to tag other churches "false" and "of the devil" when your's was built on a foundation of falsehood. Lol Russell with his scam miracle wheat seeds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj7o66SruHLAhUMymMKHWbwATsQFggSMAA&sig2=hM_9Po5Mfhy1xZFFWjQlzA&usg=AFQjCNEOAe6eXSfiPyIfvE0G5GLZpKPe1Q

Bring forward your own source of history and prove me wrong, untill then, dont quote me again bros

Omagzee:
move on bro, i posted an attachment of his photo and u saw it. I read about him from reliable source, why do we have history books? I guess everything we learnt from history is false then. Were u there when WW2 was fought? No, i guess it never happened because you were not there. Funny how you are quick to tag other churches "false" and "of the devil" when your's was built on a foundation of falsehood. Lol Russell with his scam miracle wheat seeds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj7o66SruHLAhUMymMKHWbwATsQFggSMAA&sig2=hM_9Po5Mfhy1xZFFWjQlzA&usg=AFQjCNEOAe6eXSfiPyIfvE0G5GLZpKPe1Q

Bring forward your own source of history and prove me wrong, untill then, dont quote me again bros

I still insist that you don't knw russell. he was one of d few persons who saw falsehood in christainity n withdrew 4rm them. he stood 4 d truth. he studied d bible along wit other scholars.pls read wikipedia well.

dolphinheart:
When some want to find fault, they need to dig false or manipulated stories of people that existed when my father was not even born. I ju ba for una. If you cant present facts using the scriptures that counters someones beliefs, why present stories of the past, the answer is that you are just desperate to make them look bad!

I tell me you what I believe now, you want to counter it with what others who lived before I was born believed. I tell you what I do now, but you want talk about what some people who died before I was born did.

You say their believes where wrong, I say my believes are different, yet you are angry with me for adjusting the believes you claim where wrong.
If you believe my present beliefs are wrong,why can't you bring up facts to counter what I believe in.

nice. because they can not find faults with refined understanding of truth, so digging into irrelevant past that cannot be verified now become their hobby.

LinuxMint:
I still insist that you don't knw russell. he was one of d few persons who saw falsehood in christainity n withdrew 4rm them. he stood 4 d truth. he studied d bible along wit other scholars.pls read wikipedia well.

He stood for the truth with all his false prophesies and how he misled his followers with it and his miracle wheat seeds abi?
hahahahaah, stop being frugal with the truth. I just gave u link, same link is from wikipedia. Open it and read, he was a false teacher who never submitted to his wife as the bible has instructed, he was corrupt(miracle wheat seeds scam), he had a thing for manson, all this i learnt from the same wikipedia you asked me to read well.
Bro plssssssssss dont quote me again plsssss, except who have something reasonable to nullify all maybe a source that counters all i have learnt from the same wikipedia you mentioned.

Wikipedia opinion on Jehovah witnesses. stop lying against them
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell

Omagzee:
He stood for the truth with all his false prophesies and how he misled his followers with it and his miracle wheat seeds abi?
hahahahaah, stop being frugal with the truth. I just gave u link, same link is from wikipedia. Open it and read, he was a false teacher who never submitted to his wife as the bible has instructed, he was corrupt(miracle wheat seeds scam), he had a thing for manson, all this i learnt from the same wikipedia you asked me to read well.
Bro plssssssssss dont quote me again plsssss, except who have something reasonable to nullify all maybe a source that counters all i have learnt from the same wikipedia you mentioned.

mind you allegations against him cannot be verified. read Wikipedia again

joyandfaith:
mind you allegations against him cannot be verified. read Wikipedia again

who be this one,so if aint verified, why was it published in the first place? your arguement is invalid.....move on!

joyandfaith:
mind you allegations against him cannot be verified. read Wikipedia again

who be this one,so if aint verified, why was it published in the first place? your arguement is invalid.....move on!

Omagzee:
He stood for the truth with all his false prophesies and how he misled his followers with it and his miracle wheat seeds abi?
hahahahaah, stop being frugal with the truth. I just gave u link, same link is from wikipedia. Open it and read, he was a false teacher who never submitted to his wife as the bible has instructed, he was corrupt(miracle wheat seeds scam), he had a thing for manson, all this i learnt from the same wikipedia you asked me to read well.
Bro plssssssssss dont quote me again plsssss, except who have something reasonable to nullify all maybe a source that counters all i have learnt from the same wikipedia you mentioned.

keep on digging into all falacies abt russell. don't ever stop .okay?.. bt accept d fact that the light of bible truth gets brighter daily, n nothing can stop it.

do study the bible accurately, and stop basing ur sentiments on human faults nor their doctrines...

pls study the bible.

LinuxMint:
keep on digging into all falacies abt russell. don't ever stop .okay?.. bt accept d fact that the light of bible truth gets brighter daily, n nothing can stop it.

do study the bible accurately, and stop basing ur sentiments on human faults nor their doctrines...

pls study the bible.

bro, u de fine trouble ooo...
Rutherford own still de there oooo...
What do u do on most kingdom hall gatherings? I'll tell u. You guys dissect, crucify, condemn and speak ill of other christian organisations, claiming yours is the one and only true organisation (faulting doctrines, same doctrines you just told me not to fault) and when we point out the falsehood behind the foundations of your organisation, u start spewing meaningless junks, i call it hyposcrisy. I attend meetings too bro so i know what i am saying. For the last time, dont quote me, you are not making sense so quote me not.

Omagzee:
bro, u de fine trouble ooo...
Rutherford own still de there oooo...
What do u do on most kingdom hall gatherings? I'll tell u. You guys dissect, crucify, condemn and speak ill of other christian organisations, claiming yours is the one and only true organisation and when we point out the falsehood behind the foundations of your organisation, u start spewing meaningless junks, i call it hyposcrisy. I attend meetings too bro so i know what i am saying. For the last time, dont quote me, you are not making sense so quote me not.

keep on digging.
like i said, study the bible. and do so prayerfully.

LinuxMint:
keep on digging.
like i said, study the bible. and do so prayerfully.

study the bible too bro, its agaisnt hypicrisy, because you just showed how much of a hypocrite u are. U and your organisation..... study history too bro, it lays bare the truth.
Now run along and never look back!

Omagzee:
who be this one,so if aint verified, why was it published in the first place? your arguement is invalid.....move on!

read Wikipedia very well. Russell denied it. watchtower denied it. what else do you want?

Omagzee:
study the bible too bro, its agaisnt hypicrisy, because you just showed how much of a hypocrite u are. U and your organisation..... study history too bro, it lays bare the truth.
Now run along and never look back!

you are having hypertension over an allegation occurred before your parents are borne. if you do not like Jehovah witnesses move on with your life, you are not worst that Hitler who devoted his life to exterminate jw.

I admire Jehovah's Witnesses for their humility. Like the apostles who also at some point have some wrong belives formerly e.g Peter believe anyone that's not a Jew is unclean ... But he adjust his understanding after realizing what happened in the home of the roman soldier Cornelius , that's humility . but if anyone ridicule peter for his former believes, such a person lacks proper thinking ability.


So also , the witnesses have adjusted their understanding once they admit its wrong . that's humility .


FOR THOSE GNASHING their teeth on the witnesses, have you realize that rather than adjust 98% of nowadays churches still hold on to false believes like immortal soul , hellfire , trinity, Mary is the mother of God , everybody go to heaven , and other false and silly teachings ? . plain Nonsense

Omagzee:
bro, u de fine trouble ooo...
Rutherford own still de there oooo...
What do u do on most kingdom hall gatherings? I'll tell u. You guys dissect, crucify, condemn and speak ill of other christian organisations, claiming yours is the one and only true organisation (faulting doctrines, same doctrines you just told me not to fault) and when we point out the falsehood behind the foundations of your organisation, u start spewing meaningless junks, i call it hyposcrisy. I attend meetings too bro so i know what i am saying. For the last time, dont quote me, you are not making sense so quote me not.

Jehovah witnesses speak against church spiritual crimes- blood shedding, involvement in war, lack of love, condoning immorality, tribalism, nationalsm, etc. they do not mention any church.

joyandfaith:
read Wikipedia very well. Russell denied it. watchtower denied it. what else do you want?

what is this one saying?

Denied that he made false prophecies or he sold miracle wheat seeds? Or he was unsubmissive in his marriage?
That he denied it, does not in any way change the fact that he was a false prophet and corrupt fellow. When a theif is caught red-handed, he'll still deny and swear he's innocent.
Dont quote me again untill u bring up something reasonable, hard evidence cus u're not making sense.
Now run along lad

Omagzee:
study the bible too bro, its agaisnt hypicrisy, because you just showed how much of a hypocrite u are. U and your organisation..... study history too bro, it lays bare the truth.
Now run along and never look back!

start your study now before it becomes too late.

Jozzy4:
I admire Jehovah's Witnesses for their humility. Like the apostles who also at some point have some wrong belives formerly e.g Peter believe anyone that's not a Jew is unclean ... But he adjust his understanding after realizing what happened in the home of the roman soldier Cornelius , that's humility . but if anyone ridicule peter for his former believes, such a person lacks proper thinking ability.


So also , the witnesses have adjusted their understanding once they admit its wrong . that's humility .


FOR THOSE GNASHING their teeth on the witnesses, have you realize that rather than adjust 98% of nowadays churches still hold on to false believes like immortal soul , hellfire , trinity, Mary is the mother of God , everybody go to heaven , and other false and silly teachings ? . plain Nonsense

thank you. Jehovah witnesses are not perfect . instead of being dogmatic, they admit their mistakes and move on

joyandfaith:
Jehovah witnesses speak against church spiritual crimes- blood shedding, involvement in war, lack of love, condoning immorality, tribalism, nationalsm, etc. they do not mention any church.

bloody liar! Most of their articles target catholics and the orthodox church, which are mentioned explicitly. I read awake and W.T alot, you cant fool me. Try harder.

oglalasioux:
I challenge you that your website doesn't answer any of the questions I raised. If I'm wrong prove it to me by tackling at least one of the questions.

I started reading Jehovah's Witness books and journals 20 years ago. I have a library of Awake! Watchtower, Young People Ask and so much more. I don't argue blindly. I've done a 15 years research and come to the conclusion that God, as dished out to us by Judaism, Christianity and Islam, doesn't exist.

Jehovah's Witnesses are great people. I owe much of what I know in my chosen profession to what I learnt from Awake! over the years. Unfortunately, they don't have tangible answers to world's nagging questions.

Interestingly, science can answer a great deal of mankind's questions with evidence. Thanks.

Mr science, I see how UV been dragging up and down on this thread , can you please use science to explain why we speak different languages ?

Omagzee:
what is this one saying?

Denied that he made false prophecies or he sold miracle wheat seeds? Or he was unsubmissive in his marriage?
That he denied it, does not in any way change the fact that he was a false prophet and corrupt fellow. When a theif is caught red-handed, he'll still deny and swear he's innocent.
Dont quote me again untill u bring up something reasonable, hard evidence cus u're not making sense.
Now run along lad

I will keep quoting you. nothing like prophesies. you may call them prophesies. miracle seeds were mere allegations against Russell. when he died, he willed all his property to watchtower. he did not take a dine. would you compare him to ur pastors who amass wealth for themselves.
stop talking like a kindergarten kid.

Omagzee:
bloody liar! Most of their articles target catholics and the orthodox church, which are mentioned explicitly. I read awake and W.T alot, you cant fool me. Try harder.

can you make a reference?

joyandfaith:
I will keep quoting you. nothing like prophesies. you may call them prophesies. miracle seeds were mere allegations against Russell. when he died, he willed all his property to watchtower. he did not take a dine. would you compare him to ur pastors who amass wealth for themselves.
stop talking like a kindergarten kid.

again u're off point, cus there were prophesies, not just one and you saying what u like here.
He sold wheat seeds bro, you lack honesty and i refuse to engage you. Bros stop lying abeg and above all, do not mention me.

Omagzee:
He stood for the truth with all his false prophesies and how he misled his followers with it and his miracle wheat seeds abi?
hahahahaah, stop being frugal with the truth. I just gave u link, same link is from wikipedia. Open it and read, he was a false teacher who never submitted to his wife as the bible has instructed, he was corrupt(miracle wheat seeds scam), he had a thing for manson, all this i learnt from the same wikipedia you asked me to read well.
Bro plssssssssss dont quote me again plsssss, except who have something reasonable to nullify all maybe a source that counters all i have learnt from the same wikipedia you mentioned.

Stop saying things you know very little about. Do you know who produced the wheat, do you know what the American agricultural ministry said about it, do you know his level of involvement with it and what great lengths he exerted to prove he never defrauded anyone.

Do you know his wife personally, her personality, and what made her left.

Don't just quote allegations research the issue and know the full details.

joyandfaith:
can you make a reference?

alot of them bro, but for u my friend, it is a waste of time cus i referenced a link and you defended yourself by saying all sort of distorted crap so why should i waste my time referencing another one?
What do i have to prove to a dishonest person like you who in the midst of glaring evidence still deny? Bro quote me not for the last time.

rabzy:
Stop saying things you know very little about. Do you know who produced the wheat, do you know what the American agricultural ministry said about it, do you know his level of involvement with it and what great lengths he exerted to prove he never defrauded anyone.

Do you know his wife personally, her personality, and what made her left.

Don't just quote allegations research the issue and know the full details.

hahahahahaha, who be this one, u sound pained ooooo. But i wont reply u see your answer :

wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Taze_Russell&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj7o66SruHLAhUMymMKHWbwATsQFggSMAA&sig2=hM_9Po5Mfhy1xZFFWjQlzA&usg=AFQjCNEOAe6eXSfiPyIfvE0G5GLZpKPe1Q

Omagzee:
alot of them bro, but for u my friend, it is a waste of time cus i referenced a link and you defended yourself by saying all sort of distorted crap so why should i waste my time referencing another one?
What do i have to prove to a dishonest person like you who in the midst of glaring evidence still deny? Bro quote me not for the last time.

see Mr honest producing unproven allegations to discredit jw?. if someone alleges you wrongly and allegations are widespread in various social media and internet, what what would you do? jw has denied miracle seeds. what do you want again?
issue of prophesies or predictions are other things entirely. some of those things were misunderstanding of bible truths and improved understanding could be found in www.jw.org . why digging out irrelevancies to discredit jw. you people are OK with ur pastors robbing you , promoting all sorts of crimes against humanity. I think direct your energy to correct wrongdoing in ur church instead of attacking jw like Stalin and Hitler who eventually failed because you cannot fight the truth and win.

joyandfaith:
see Mr honest producing unproven allegations to discredit jw?. if someone alleges you wrongly and allegations are widespread in various social media and internet, what what would you do? jw has denied miracle seeds. what do you want again?
issue of prophesies or predictions are other things entirely. some of those things were misunderstanding of bible truths and improved understanding could be found in www.jw.org . why digging out irrelevancies to discredit jw. you people are OK with ur pastors robbing you , promoting all sorts of crimes against humanity. I think direct your energy to correct wrongdoing in ur church instead of attacking jw like Stalin and Hitler who eventually failed because you cannot fight the truth and win.

bla bla bla, guess what? You just got snubbed!

Omagzee:
again u're off point, cus there were prophesies, not just one and you saying what u like here.
He sold wheat seeds bro, you lack honesty and i refuse to engage you. Bros stop lying abeg and above all, do not mention me.

were you there and did you buy some seeds?
nothing like prophesies but predictions. few predictions and have humbly correct themselves in the book God kingdom rules. a copy of the book can be found in www.jw.org

OK. you are a thief and armed robber. defend yourself against the allegation