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| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by OAUTemitayo: 12:49pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
You cannot use the issue of a child born out of wedlock in this instance because at least two independent parties consented to have sexual intercourse which under the law is an agreement to both take responsibility for the result of their joint action Timidelaw: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 12:53pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Great research i must say, one which didn't require any stress, as the internet is flooded by people of like minds that you quoted. All persons who at one point or the other, had the chance to place this unity(Nigeria) at the correct spot, but messed up with the opportunity due to self-centered life giving excuses for failure. emaculate99: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 12:55pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
good one, please can you relate that to the instance of rape also painted? Point out the consent OAUTemitayo: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by emaculate99: 12:55pm On Mar 28, 2016*. Modified: 4:33pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
horlapelumi:I agree with you on one point. The amalgamation was to provide good administration during the colonial era and was necessitated because of the economic interest the European have for the country. However, trading has no boundary. Before amalgamation, there have been signs of economic contact among these people. Apart from that, amalgamation is not needed for expansion of trade. if i am to follow your logic then i can say that there will be no export and import without amalgamation of the trading locations. Benin Republic is not a part of Nigeria and yet there is movement of goods from it to Nigeria and vice-versa. therefore, your point holds no ground. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by OAUTemitayo: 12:56pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:You have not answered my question that it is justified to force people into a union without their consent ![]() On South Africa, the indigenous people of South Africa are the Zulus and the Afrikaans knows this. The Zulus of South Africa are okay with the white immigrants from Europe. In as much as they are okay with it, it is not a problem. You cannot use that to justify the compulsion of Igbos who are Christians majorly together with hard-line Islamists and Fulani's who want the total imposition of Sharia. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by horlapelumi(m): 12:58pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
emaculate99:It was argued that most countries in Asia and Europe are united because of the singular identify that have, asked the to mention any country that has a single ethic group,, non, all we have is unity in diversity, it has been from time immemorial that we live together in unity in diversity, what makes up Israel is it 12tribes not on single tribe. And it would only be a person with poor knowledge of fact that most countries in the world exist together because of the unity in diversity Why bring in contract when common sense answer it all. Moreover I will like to remind you of our state of civilisation during that period. And I will leave you with this; what was the reactions of our men when the proclamation was made? Implied consent is what we are talking about here |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by OAUTemitayo: 1:01pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:You are digressing and shooting yourself in the leg. Rape produce a child who has biological compartments working together and peaceful to produce desired results that satisfies the child. But this amalgamation produced a geographical expression where the compulsed compartments are fighting and killing themselves. They are two different things |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by greatness22(m): 1:02pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Make i sidon 4 here. **brings out 2bags of popcorn and hollandia yoghurt** |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by emaculate99: 1:03pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:Yeah, they had a chance to unite the people but how can they unite a country which contained different groups of people who had no interest of getting themselves united? It is not the case that they failed to unite the people. It is the case that the people cannot be united due to the fact that they are not ready to get themselves united. From the quotes, you will understand that they made these statements having experienced failed trial of joining the parts that made up Nigeria together due to the people's lack of interest. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:04pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
You must take a look back at the argument and read in contest and not pick out point, after an answer is given, you say its out of consent. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by OAUTemitayo: 1:04pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:How can you expect Chief Obafemi Awolowo to put the Interest of an entity created to promote British hegemony over the Interest of his own people? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:05pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Please mention countries today that was created because they wanted to emaculate99: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:06pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
You dont find such. Why not do a clinical study on Botswana and Somalia, you will be better clarified. You get what you want. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by horlapelumi(m): 1:07pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
emaculate99:What are this signs of economic contact? Import and export would very much be in place without amalgamation just that you might need international passport and visa to buy from Onitsha while in lagos. One of the essence as argued above is to foster intercommunal relationship through this trade and thereby encourage expansion of our local markets not international markets. I also hope you know that Benin has a border and every goods coming from there pay duties. Imagine if such is happening because you want to buy goods from ibadan |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Sasuwa(f): 1:08pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Hausa/fulani have buhari, yoruba have tinubu and igbo has Nnamdi kanu . Thing done balanced |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:08pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
You keep talking of diversity of the nation. Am yet to see a reply to the point made on the Rivers state situation, neither have you answered the insurgency being operational mainly in the North(same people) or the Niger Delta in the South........ The lies of the leaders for their failure is what is driving us, and not any mistake of amalgamation. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by emaculate99: 1:09pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
horlapelumi:from history, you will understand that the 12 tribes that made up Israel has something in common. They came from a single origin, Jacob. Did Nigeria come from the same origin? Nigeria came out from no single origin yet it amalgamation was imposed on Nigeria without consulting the people concerned. Are you trying to tell me that it is right to impose something on people who with their actions and inactions are not willing to accept? Amalgamation is made for the selfish interest of the colonialists and not because the people want it. You know that. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by emaculate99: 1:13pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:United Kingdom during the creation of the union was done through the signature of a pact. Nigeria has nothing of such pact and yet Nigeria being country of people with a lot of differences, the people need to be consulted and a pact should be entered between the north and the south. Amalgamation should not be imposed on them. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:13pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
lol. i cant but laugh when you talk of origin, if we go by that then all African countries should be one. emaculate99: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:15pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
On consent, How many countries come willing to state their readiness to be a country. A peep back into history will tell us better. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by emaculate99: 1:17pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:How can Africans be one? Do Africans come from the same origin? Africans come from different origins. The yoruba have their story about their origin. The Igbo has the same and this goes for the Hausas, you cannot claim that they all have the same origin. However, if you ask from any of the 12 tribes of Israel, they will point to the fact that they come from the same origin. |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:18pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
*Such is the flawed foundation of the country that even after over hundred years of the amalgamation, Nigeria is still battling with basic problems such as food security problems (we are still importing majority of what we are eating such as rice and others even though we have an arable land that is more than enough), inadequate power generation (despite spending over twenty trillion naira on the sector we are still generating 4000MW for a population of over 160 million when South Africa a country with half population of ours generates over 50,000MW), poor road network, poor health facilities, terrible education sector (or how do you explain students dying on the collapse of classrooms that should have been renovated) etc.* Reading the above from my opponent argument, i begin to wonder how the amalgamation is to be blamed for this. I believe it was written in error... |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:19pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Please take me on a journey to origin of Africans, but do so to the perfect end please. Do so before coming to yoruba, ibgo and s, lets see where it all ends emaculate99: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by horlapelumi(m): 1:20pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
emaculate99:In answering that, i would like you to know that an implied consent is deem to be legal consent in law. consider the reactions of our people when the proclamation was made, no agitation against it whatsoever which simply means, go ahead, we are behind you. why bring in Contract when common sense has the answer |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by OAUTemitayo: 1:21pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:Rivers state is made up of different languages so their conflict is understandable. Ijaws and ogonis are not the same |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by horlapelumi(m): 1:23pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
emaculate99:also in history you will agree that tribes in Nigeria have something in common, they come from the same geographical location. And as i have earlier stated amalgamation was not imposed rather it was posited without any opposition which means it is good enough to work with |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:24pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
i really love this, but am short of words to reply to thus. Your argument proves your brilliancy, but that reply leaves me speechless.... OAUTemitayo: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:24pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Are we therefore looking for a family to become a nation? |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by emaculate99: 1:25pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
If Nigeria is really meant to be united and blended into a single united country through amalgamation, do you think there will be need for us calling for unity everyday? The constant call of unity after amalgamation is as a result of the fact that amalgamation of the country has failed to unite the people. why should we still continue to make use of something that has failed in what it is meant to do? Is it not a mistake if such amalgamation failed in performing what is necessary intended for? horlapelumi: |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:26pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Which group of people who make up a nation are all one in all respect. Ok, for the Boko haram issue in the North, i believe your reply will be some are dark others fair, and some are tall others short. Come on..... |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by OAUTemitayo: 1:28pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Timidelaw:The poor state of the country is borne of mediocrity imposed by the use of tribal consideration above expertise. JAMB is a very good example |
| Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Semi Finals Winner: OAU by Timidelaw(m): 1:29pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
This as well as your last question makes me feel you are yet to get the topic. 1914 Almagamation; an Historical mistake(I blatantly oppose this). What exactly are we saying? It's simply not the act(cause we are not responsible for that) but the result(which we should take full responsibility for) So why even tell us all what the British guys have said? emaculate99: |
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