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Babacele:
fairness in what ,how and by who?

Fairness in the distribution, excution and implementation of any federal project. Fairness in policy excutions, fairness in all other things that have skewed nigeria towards its failures and un-progressiveness.
some people may call for new federalism but i think it is a tall order in nigeria today, hence there are ways some of the flaws in the state can be solved.

The igbo nation as we know it has never been the problem of the nation nigeria, but has been in the fore front of some fairness and orderlines

Scholes007:
Fairness in the distribution, excution and implementation of any federal project. Fairness in policy excutions, fairness in all other things that have skewed nigeria towards its failures and un-progressiveness.
some people may call for new federalism but i think it is a tall order in nigeria today, hence there are ways some of the flaws in the state can be solved.

go to specifics :dates,places, names and numbers n let us talk. for example from 1999 till date I can count from CBN governors, IG of police , Finance Ministers, Aviation, Army chiefs,Special advisers, etc that are Igbo. maybe u should educate us.

blackpanda:
God forbid!

First of all, we cant trust an igbo man not to split and destroy this country since it is clear they dont believe in the Nigerian project in the first place.

Secondly, they are not the only group that hasnt produced president. What u a benue man thats talking?? Marginalization has nothing to do with

Then, because of an igbo man's innate greed and lust for money, we cant trust them not to sell out nigeria

Not to mention igbos arent even united. An average igbo man wants to pull down the next igbo man. So it will be next to impossible to even win within the SE region, let alone at national level!

clearly you are wrong. An igbo man never fight to poll his brother down. Igbo have this rear nature of defending his brother even in odd situation. As for the unity of igbos you are also very wrong, igbos is never divided in the south east you quoted though there maybe some set backs in the region called south south especially rivers that does not equate to disunity.

Babacele:
go to specifics :dates,places, names and numbers n let us talk. for example from 1999 till date I can count from CBN governors, IG of police , Finance Ministers, Aviation, Army chiefs,Special advisers, etc that are Igbo. maybe u should educate us.

i don't get you question very well, are you saying appointment equates to fairness?

Scholes007:
i don't get you question very well, are you saying appointment equates to fairness?

persons in positions determine 'fairness' to their people unless u can tell me Igbo sons n daughters in power, n most especially d GEJ's 6 years , are Hausa Fulani or Ofenmanus who have shortchanged 'our people'. let us be academic n use empirical evidences rather than evasive approach. Eg when Yoruba n Hausa states are busy employing Igbo s into their civil service , a Theodore Orji was sacking non-Abian igbos. Theo must be a 'yolobaman'.

Igbos presidency will never be untill Igbos get over their needless hate for others.

focus7:
Igbos presidency will never be untill Igbos get over their needless hate for others.

How

Scholes007:
what sort of game plan are you talking about? You view will be highly appreciated.

Thanks my brother from another mother. Honestly, the south East needs to build more bridges. Be tactical while planing their politics. And never put ALL their EGGS in one basket. There should always be plan B. I see South Eastern produces president in 2023 because most Nigerians believe it's long overdue. However, This depends on how they play their politics come 2019.

Dakad:
Thanks my brother from another mother. Honestly, the south East needs to build more bridges. Be tactical while planing their politics. And never put ALL their EGGS in one basket. There should always be plan B. I see South Eastern produces president in 2023 because most Nigerians believe it's long overdue. However, This depends on how they play their politics come 2019.

And what do you mean by putting eggs in one basket? What nonsense is that? Look, It is either true federalism or Biafra, as this useless country is right now, there is no hope of ANY progress, any time soon, be it Igbo President or not, aren't you ashamed of your self? you ought to be.

Babacele:
persons in positions determine 'fairness' to their people unless u can tell me Igbo sons n daughters in power, n most especially d GEJ's 6 years , are Hausa Fulani or Ofenmanus who have shortchanged 'our people'. let us be academic n use empirical evidences rather than evasive approach. Eg when Yoruba n Hausa states are busy employing Igbo s into their civil service , a Theodore Orji was sacking non-Abian igbos. Theo must be a 'yolobaman'.

what do you mean by 'fairness' is determine by people in power to their people? Are you saying a person from a particular group/place in Nigeria should determine development of his group alone?
Well, i see no reason bringing GEJ or T. A. Orji into this. Gej 6 years saw a much tolerance and peace among the citizens in nigeria unlike what is/was obtainable from other. Also i see no reason turning T. A. Orji's obnoxious policy which affects all nigerians into igbo nonsense. He retrenched non-Abians, which include all other nigerians not only igbos. His blonder was resisted by all including Abians.( mind you he rescind the policy and entrenched all retrenched worker into Abia state civil service so you have no point at all )

Dakad:
Thanks my brother from another mother. Honestly, the south East needs to build more bridges. Be tactical while planing their politics. And never put ALL their EGGS in one basket. There should always be plan B. I see South Eastern produces president in 2023 because most Nigerians believe it's long overdue. However, This depends on how they play their politics come 2019.

You are welcome my brother, i may not understand what you mean by putting all eggs in one basket but i believe we should be tactical while building/amending bridges with others. As for plan B i think we should look for more than that.

Scholes007:
what do you mean by 'fairness' is determine by people in power to their people? Are you saying a person from a particular group/place in Nigeria should determine development of his group alone?
Well, i see no reason bringing GEJ or T. A. Orji into this. Gej 6 years saw a much tolerance and peace among the citizens in nigeria unlike what is/was obtainable from other. Also i see no reason turning T. A. Orji's obnoxious policy which affects all nigerians into igbo nonsense. He retrenched non-Abians, which include all other nigerians not only igbos. His blonder was resisted by all including Abians.( mind you he rescind the policy and entrenched all retrenched worker into Abia state civil service so you have no point at all )

so who is marginalising who na?

DaBullIT:
Besides there's a rotating formula

OBJ to Yaradua to GEJ to Buhari next president is Yoruba


Believe it or not, there are three main tribes in Nigeria

Yoruba, Hausa, Ibo

but base on the rotation formular, the last time I checked, GEJ is not an Ibo man. Still wondering if the Midwest and the Middle-belt are not also feeling intimidated if we follow your rotating formular.

Scholes007:
what do you mean by 'fairness' is determine by people in power to their people? Are you saying a person from a particular group/place in Nigeria should determine development of his group alone?
Well, i see no reason bringing GEJ or T. A. Orji into this. Gej 6 years saw a much tolerance and peace among the citizens in nigeria unlike what is/was obtainable from other. Also i see no reason turning T. A. Orji's obnoxious policy which affects all nigerians into igbo nonsense. He retrenched non-Abians, which include all other nigerians not only igbos. His blonder was resisted by all including Abians.( mind you he rescind the policy and entrenched all retrenched worker into Abia state civil service so you have no point at all )

u labour painfully to defend untruths .....and u seem to have no shame in doing that... so you don't want us to talk about Orji but other Nigerians....hypocrisy!

1. more peace n tolerance under GEJ? victims of BH in the country especially the NE whose population is about 20million would readily n robustly disagree with you. now under PMB they re not only getting peace returning to them, hope n love from their country they can also feel.
2 . From Taraba,Benue, Nasarawa, Plateau,to Kaduna were seemingly state sponsored heavy tribal fights which usually leave hundreds dead daily under GEJ . Presently it has reduced by 90% despite the Agatu crisis which has been brought under control. about 18million Nigerians live here in the middle Belt plus Abuja's 5 million we have about 23million people . may I remind u that Abuja was under attack n GEJ was deliberately clueless abi how u go explain the Oct 1, United Nation building, Madalla, Police HQ, Nyanyan bombings n his refusal to buy CCTV camera budgeted for? now hope n peace have returned under PMB.
3. our soldiers especially those arrested falsely for mutiny n would have been murdered to cover up 1 of the biggest heist in the history of this nation, their friends n family would readily disagree with you that they had peace and tolerance under GEJ.
4. of course it was an uncommon peace in Kano under GEJ. 9 million Kanawas can tell u now what peace is .
5. In his inordinate ambition to win at all cost, d clueless team subjected the SW to ridicule by allowing renegades like Obanikoro,Adesiyan, Andy Ubah, General Momoh, Omisore n co to unleash physical and psychological pains on d SW which translated into peace under GEJ?
6. Apart from the artificial chaos being created by Ipob youths after the heavy defeat of their candidate GEJ, kidnappings, pipeline vandalization have reduced drastically in d SE n SS since u want to be referred to together(and don't complain of marginalization wen it backfires in future wen other PDP like Nigerians say GEJ was Igbo candidate) and other forms violence have reduced appreciably under PMB.
7. Before the coming of Wike,Rivers was very peaceful under d leadership of Rotimi Amaechi - a true ND( who couldn't understand like me y GEJ would waste Azazi, refused implement UNEP report on ogoni, couldn't make a refinery work for 6 years among several sins).
8. Despite the fuel scarcity which is not new to us, we Nigerians have unflinching faith in PMB's leadership till ,by His grace, 2019.

Dakad:
Thanks my brother from another mother. Honestly, the south East needs to build more bridges. Be tactical while planing their politics. And never put ALL their EGGS in one basket. There should always be plan B. I see South Eastern produces president in 2023 because most Nigerians believe it's long overdue. However, This depends on how they play their politics come 2019.

Rochas Okorocha-Owelle of Nigeria- understands that so does several igbos. we have our plan B not fueled by hatred n gra gra but by tact ,diplomacy and faith in the project Nigeria.

Babacele:
Rochas Okorocha-Owelle of Nigeria- understands that so does several igbos. we have our plan B not fueled by hatred n gra gra but by tact ,diplomacy and faith in the project Nigeria.

Ok. I hope most people from South East share same opinion because this same Okorocha narrowly won 2015 election. Take a case of this Anabra disqualified senetor who finally decamped to APC after losing at appeal court should have stepped down for Ngige so as to produce senate president without banking on luck. Though Saraki's ambition paved way for Ekweremadu but that's more of chance rather than what it's should have been a right if Ngige was elected as senator

Dakad:
Ok. I hope most people from South East share same opinion because this same Okorocha narrowly won 2015 election. Take a case of this Anabra disqualified senetor who finally decamped to APC after losing at appeal court should have stepped down for Ngige so as to produce senate president without banking on luck. Though Saraki's ambition paved way for Ekweremadu but that's more of chance rather than what it's should have been a right if Ngige was elected as senator

Okorocha does not need to beg any SEastener who is reasonable to support an igbo presidency. I can bet igbos are not that stewpid. Whatever, Okorocha has paid the price and other Nigerians willingly shall submit this sovereignty to him insha Allah In Jesus Name, amen.

Somehow this does not seem right

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