TheGoodJoe:


A journalist said he will answer a Super Eagles call up if he gets it. It is his interest in Nigeria that sparked the debate.

TheGoodJoe:


Please, Wilfried Bony scored a total of 25 EPL goals for Swansea. 16 in his first season. Go to Wikipedia and look at his career statistics.

forgiveness:


Do you mean the other 9 goals doesn't count or no longer scored in the EPL?

Or are you counting only league goals?

Remember, Iheanacho only scored 3 goals in the the League while Solanke scored 7 goals in the Eredivisie. .

forgiveness:


Do you mean the other 9 goals doesn't count or no longer scored in the EPL?

Or are you counting only league goals?

Remember, Iheanacho only scored 3 goals in the the League while Solanke scored 7 goals in the Eredivisie. .

TheGoodJoe:


How can the other nine count when we are talking of Bony's performance in his first season.

In Bony's first season in the EPL, he scored 16 goals. That is, 2013-2014 season.

The EPL is one League. We can not count other goals when we are talking League goals.

When Bony scored 31 goals in 30 League games, it was only in the Eredivisie. No there competition. If we want to add that, then we call total games.

forgiveness:


That is a pass mark for someone who scored 3 goals in his first season in Eredivisie and 12 goals in his second season in the Eredivisie and came all the way to score 16 and 11 goals in his first and second season respectively in the EPL.


Don't you think so?

TheGoodJoe:


The 25 goals he scored is total games. The discussion was in respect of the Eredivisie and the EPL.

Iheanacho has three goals in three starts. Solanke has seven goals in Seventeen starts. That is the difference.

Iheanacho's start to goal ratio is flawless but Solanke's own isn't.

The boy has the ability and he should raise his game.

TheGoodJoe:


The point is that Bony had a smoking form the season before he joined Swansea. 31 goals in 30 matches is terrific.

Going from that to 16 goals in 34 matches is a bad drop. It shows he met tougher oppositions and defenders than he faced at the Eredivisie.

forgiveness:


It is no longer first season and second season again!?


Stop changing gear, Na you start na you won com take style change am.

forgiveness:



That means statistically speaking Iheanacho should be dropped for Sadiq Umar because he had 2 goals in two starts. Waoh! Is goal ratio is more flawless than Iheanacho and Solanke.

Don't you think so?

TheGoodJoe:


Please can you show me where I said first and second season?

TheGoodJoe:


It seems you do not understand the post.

Graziano Pelle
Eredivisie
First season = 27 goals
Second season = 23 goals.

Epl
First season = 12 goals
Second season = 9 goals so far.

This alone shows how far difficult it is in the EPL.

forgiveness:


With all pleasure Sir.




Even these statistics are misleading.

TheGoodJoe:


Who said that? First of all, the EPL is a tougher ground. Second, he has two games and Nacho has three. Thirdly, Nacho has shown the same consistency in another competition.

So, I will tip Nacho over Sadiq but I will like to see Sadiq get more games to see if he can maintain the consistency.

If Sadiq can maintain the consistency, then there is something special there.

TheGoodJoe:


So how did I combine the two seasons as one as you want to combine Bony's first and second season as his EPL goals in a season.

I said Bony scored 16 goals in his first season in the EPL. You said no. 25 goals.

I told you it is not true that in one season he scored 16. You said is it not two seasons?

So please show me where I combined two seasons as one. Because, that clearly showed me separating each season.

TheGoodJoe:


When did I say that an Eredivisie good goal scorer can not score in the EPL. I am asking you, which of the league is harder.

If you do not know, why are you arguing.

The best player of the Eredivisie in recent years, Bony is benching in Man City.

That is enough to tell you how difficult it is in the EPL.

Pelle benches in some games.

Sorry, Bonny scored 25 goals in his first season in EPL
11 goals in the second season

In the Eredivisie

3 goals in the first season

15 goals in the second season
Chai!

forgiveness:


One out of 5

Suarez
Eredivisie
First season =37 matches = 15 goals
Second season = 42 matches = 22 goals
Third season = 43 matches = 28 goals

Premier league
First season = 13 matches = 4 goals
Second season = 39= matches = 17 goals
Third season = 44 matches = 30 goals


Van Nisterooly
Eredivisie
First season =36 matches = 16 goals
Second season = 46 matches = 38 goals
Third season = 33 matches = 32 goals

Premier league
First season = 49 matches = 36 goals
Second season = 52 = matches = 44 goals
Third season = 44 matches = 30 goals


Van Persie
Eredivisie
First season =17 matches = 0 goals
Second season = 28 matches = 16 goals
Third season = 33 matches = 6 goals

Premier league
First season = 41 matches = 10 goals
Second season = 38 = matches = 11 goals
Third season = 31 matches = 13 goals

Dennis Bergkamp
Eredivisie
First season = 23 matches = 2 goals
Second season = 32 matches = 6 goals
Third season = 34 matches = 16 goals

Premier league
First season = 41 matches = 16 goals
Second season = 34 = matches = 14 goals
Third season = 40 matches = 22 goals


Jimmy Hasselbaink
Eerste divisie (second level of Dutch Football) Chai!
First season = 4 matches = 0 goals
Second season = 11 matches = 6 goals
Third season = 26 matches = 2 goals

Premier league
First season = 40 matches = 22 goals
Second season = 44 = matches = 20 goals
Third season = 41 matches = 26 goals



Eiður Smári Guðjohnsen
Eredivisie
First season = 15matches = 3 goals
Second season = 0 matches = 0 goals
Third season = 43 matches = 28 goals

Premier league
First season = 36 matches = 13 goals
Second season = 47 = matches = 23 goals
Third season = 44 matches = 10 goals


Dirk Kuyt
Eredivisie
First season =30 matches = 6 goals
Second season = 36 matches = 10 goals
Third season = 37 matches = 16 goals

Premier league
First season = 48 matches = 14 goals
Second season = 44 = matches = 11 goals
Third season = 51 matches = 15 goals

Time will not permit me to list all the players who played in the Eredivisie before coming to become super stars with with their ease at scoring goals in the Premier League


As you can see, statistics doesn't lie.

Now, list the ones(10) players from the Eredivisie that found it difficult to score goals in the EPL .

Knock-Out. Badt guy!

But it's not true that the Dutch league is more competitive than EPL. And you know it!

Chai...but the way you capitalized on his anecdotal stats is classic. You're such an evil man!

joseph1013:
I don't know if others think like me but I believe some of these arguments spice up the house. For someone like me who has become incredibly busy these days, it's good to get here and see 5 pages unread.

These threads always have a way of going back to normal regardless of the arguments. It's a plus.

ucheo:
These thread has been derailed by petty and jobless argument.we are meant to be reading about dream team not bony, pelle, Dutch league.
Forgiveness and Co please you can open a thread for argument and leave this place. This is more like secondary school days talk. Please forgive me if my words but we can't continue like these

joseph1013:
I don't know if others think like me but I believe some of these arguments spice up the house. For someone like me who has become incredibly busy these days, it's good to get here and see 5 pages unread.

These threads always have a way of going back to normal regardless of the arguments. It's a plus.

TheGoodJoe:


I say yes. Mikel is playing some of the ball of his Defensive Midfield career. He has the weight of experience, he is a Passer but Coach Siasia should not play that two in the midfield again.

As much as Mikel played well I'm the two games in Alexandria, Egypt there was no balance in the midfield until Iwobi entered. This happened in both games.

I feel a Mikel, Azubuike, Iwobi partnership will be ideal. I do not trust Onazi to stay disciplined at the back. Onazi caused us to fail in a lot of games with his reckless running forward and leaving us exposed at the back.

CFCman:


Last year, I had Onazi as a potential over-aged member of the squad due to his past senior performances. I think if he is deployed as an AMF, he could still be useful to the Dream Team.

Leon Balogun could be another overaged choice in defense too.

CFCman:


Last year, I had Onazi as a potential over-aged member of the squad due to his past senior performances. I think if he is deployed as an AMF, he could still be useful to the Dream Team.

Leon Balogun could be another overaged choice in defense too.

TheGoodJoe:


Onazi's playing time is reduced at Lazio. So I think Coach Siasia should go with a player he is familiar with than Onazi who is not seeing much games now.

joseph1013:

Knock-Out. Badt guy!

But it's not true that the Dutch league is more competitive than EPL. And you know it!

Chai...but the way you capitalized on his anecdotal stats is classic. You're such an evil man!

bigblangston:
Wonderful debate coming from these two titans, Anyone trying to bring in tribal issues into these should check himself if he's not tribalistic himself, no where was it written in the debate that ethnicity was made a yardstick for preference, This is how wonderful analysts are known. Good job guys. Icons vs Bascovanveli tagged LEGEND(icons) versus ICON (basco) next on the list

Icon4s:


You are Right bro.

Some times it is good to sit back and watch 2 or 3 guys argue a course and learn a lot of things. Kudos to TheGoodJoe and forgiveness. You guys rock.

forgiveness:
SIASIA PROPOSES COLOMBIA, HONDURAS FRIENDLY MATCHES


April 5, 2016

Dream Team VI Head Coach, Samson Siasia, has submitted his programme for the Rio 2016 Olympic football event after his adventure with the Super Eagles failed to qualify Nigeria
for next year’s Africa Cup of Nations in Gabon.

The coach, whose fate will be tabled before the expanded meeting of the board of Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) and Sports Minister Solomon Dalung today, told reporters that his Olympic blueprint incorporated proposal for friendly matches to be played with Columbia and Honduras.



If ratified by NFF, the matches will he played in Brazil, where Nigeria will camp for one month after an extensive training in Europe.

Siasia said he planned to open a training camp in Nigeria with a legion of home-based players as soon as the federation approves his programme.

“We will go into camp with some home-based players the moment we get the green light from the federation. The exercise will allow us assess the boys to determine if some of them can be included in the final 23-man squad for the Olympic Games . We hope to camp in Europe and spend one month in Brazil, where we will play friendly matches with Honduras and Colombia,” Siasia stressed.

While he was away as the caretaker coach of the Eagles, Fatai Amoo was put in charge of the U-23 team which stunned Brazil 1-0 in a friendly match, organised by the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) at the Estadio Kieber Andrade in Caciacica Vittoria.


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