Temi231:


Thank you,

The cement is actually 1500. I misquote.

Thanks

You're welcome Sir.

There's actually an excellent fence calculator that was posted on here before. You can search for and I'll do the same for you.

write2obi:

I thought brabus clearly stated that you are not representing him? How come you are still answering for him?

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I am confused!

I don't know what else you want.
You already said with the traffic on the thread the op should get a reply hopefully.

I recommend they post onto, cc them or go to their thread. I'm sure some of the guys will soon reply.

spyder
sege
adventures
Skimanski

agarawu23:

With the traffic on this thread, this poster cant get full reply from builders in the house.

Seun , lawyer, lalasticlala can u please help us delete or lock this thread? It's not serving for its purpose anymore.

3strike:


A man's word is his Bond.....You all can read between the lines. na 9:22pm now.

Closing for the day folks......................Anyone wey get ear make dem hear.

3strikes don talk him own o. My service to humanity.

Make i sleep jor. The traffic when north west dey cause for that vgc area dey make person leave house by 4am to at least reach office quick.
I will watch the brabus is a fraudster movie tomorrow as a warm up to the oncoming game of throne season film.
Brabus is a fraudster

mavverick:
I don't know what else you want.
You already said with the traffic on the thread the op should get a reply hopefully.

I recommend they post onto, cc them or go to their thread. I'm sure some of the guys will soon reply.

spyder
sege
adventures
Skimanski

Eguns has replied.
Brabus is a fraudster

Temi231:
Please house,

My builder gave me this quote for fencing 50 by 100 one plot of land

2,500 Blocks at d rate of 120per Block. Cement 51bags at the rate of 5,550per Cement. Graph 3Load at the rate of 12,000per Load. Sand 3Load at the rate of 11,000per Load. Workmanship 120,000.
Is this correct please and I hope no magomago. Thank u in advance for your good response

@ Temi231, you should be fine with 2200 blocks for the 50 * 100 plot of land. Assuming you have a 12ft wide gate and the fence is 10 coaches high with 2 coaches foundation.

I'm assuming this is happening in Ogun state based on the figures posted.

1. N120 per block is fine
2. N1,500 per bag of cement is cool and the quantity estimated is equally not bad. Instead, I'll advice you add extra 10 bags for the blinding. So, 60 bags should be more than adequate for this.
3. Gravel - N12,000 per load is not bad at all. Likewise, Sand at N11,000. However, I have my reservations with the quantity of sand budgeted when compared with the quantity of gravel. Though I can understand there are types of gravel which sand constitute about 50%. Whatever the case maybe, I think 3 loads is too much considering the fact that you're not raising any concrete column. There was no mention of iron rods.
4. The labour charge is okay considering the following work to be done.
- Excavation - 20k
- Blinding - 15k
- Block Setting - 85k

mavverick:
I don't know what else you want.
You already said with the traffic on the thread the op should get a reply hopefully.

I recommend they post onto, cc them or go to their thread. I'm sure some of the guys will soon reply.

spyder
sege
adventures
Skimanski

sir, including "jjc" who don't know their moniker? What's the usefulness of this thread then?

brabus:


@ Temi231, you should be fine with 2200 blocks for the 50 * 100 plot of land. Assuming you have a 12ft wide gate and the fence is 10 coaches high with 2 coaches foundation.

I'm assuming this is happening in Ogun state based on the figures posted.

1. N120 per block is fine
2. N1,500 per bag of cement is cool and the quantity estimated is equally not bad. Instead, I'll advice you add extra 10 bags for the blinding. So, 60 bags should be more than adequate for this.
3. Gravel - N12,000 per load is not bad at all. Likewise, Sand at N11,000. However, I have my reservations with the quantity of sand budgeted when compared with the quantity of gravel. Though I can understand there are types of gravel which sand constitute about 50%. Whatever the case maybe, I think 3 loads is too much considering the fact that you're not raising any concrete column. There was no mention of iron rods.
4. The labour charge is okay considering the following work to be done.
- Excavation - 20k
- Blinding - 15k
- Block Setting - 85k

Thank you so much sir.

I really appreciate.

Please I will also like to know how much to do rafting on a 60 by 120 plot of land. It's swampy land but not deep like 1.5meter I guess.

BTW, I will ask him why he didn't put the rod on the list. Although the building has finished just remain fencing

Thank you once again for answering my second question

EgunMogaji:


You're welcome Sir.

There's actually an excellent fence calculator that was posted on here before. You can search for and I'll do the same for you.

Thank you Mr egun. I may surf the net for that too.
God bless

Temi231:


Thank you so much sir.
I really appreciate.
Please I will also like to know how much to do rafting on a 60 by 120 plot of land. It's swampy land but not deep like 1.5meter I guess.
BTW, I will ask him why he didn't put the rod on the list. Although the building has finished just remain fencing
Thank you once again for answering my second question

You're welcome. I laugh when I read the bolded part "swampy land but not deep like 1.5meter." But that's a very good description, it's a 5 board raft and I believe you should be fine with the following:

1. 30 ton Granite (1) - this is to assume you're getting all the granite needed to raise the concrete columns which are required at every 3m interval.
2. 20 ton Sand (3)
3. Iron Rods
. 1 ton of 10mm rods (for the ground beam stirrups and column rings) - I'll recommend an inverted T beam in swampy area.
. 2.5 ton of 12mm rods (for runners and 3.2m high columns) - I believe you'll require around 33 - 35 columns in a 60 x 120 plot when columns are spaced at 3m interval.
4. Cement (150 bags) - for raft and columns
5. Boards
. 1 x 12 x 12 planks - 280 pcs (to be reused for column formwork)
. 2 x 3 x 12 white wood - 250 pcs (for props and braces)
. Nail - 2.5 bags
6. Labour
. Concrete Work - Pay based on local rates or better still contract it out to a concreter. N80 - N100k should be fine for the ground beams.
. Carpentary - pay based on local rate
. Iron Bending - pay based on local rate
7. Contingencies (Allow extra N50k for unbudgeted expenses)

Give or take N1.5 or a little more should do the job. Take note the importance of removing the vegetable soil before concrete pour to prevent settlement and cracking.

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_{Please take note that this is only a guesstimate and all figures posted here could change based on different site condition and requirement. And as a result, this shouldn't be taken as a professional estimate or recommendation for any construction. Please consult your local builder for final estimate based on your site condition.}

n3xt:
@ lastpage, do you follow skyscrapercity. You'll love the discussions by the professionals in there.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2645

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1481

I've been a member since almost decade now.

cc: EgunMogaji

No, l dont.

I'll give it a shot!
Thanks for the headsup.


Lastpage!

Follow this thread by harneyprojects... You can estimate the fence work yourself and negotiate on a level ground with your builder https://www.nairaland.com/3018907/fence-design-costing-constuction-harneyprojects

There is misconception in Nigeria about what constitutes a raft foundation and there are many other types of foundation that economic logic dictates we consider before settling for raft foundation.
But first things first, do a comprehensive Geotechnical test to bring to light the bearing capacity of the soild at different depts along the soil profile, The soi profile of the land, the water table.... Its only with this information and an accurate design can a proper estimate be made...
You cant just say swampy land and quote 1.5m has the suited depth of your raft...its wrong
Do a Geotechnical test

agarawu23:

With the traffic on this thread, this poster cant get full reply from builders in the house.

Seun , lawyer, lalasticlala can u please help us[b] delete or lock this thread?[/b] It's not serving for its purpose anymore.

Speak for yourself Bro!

You think all those people are not reading this thread and they have decided its best left open?
No be today now.

You cant lock the thread ......simply because some people have a disagreement over Client/Contractor Money..... or one person is acting like an Egit!
There is more to the thread than that.




Lastpage!

podosci:
Follow this thread by harneyprojects... You can estimate the fence work yourself and negotiate on a level ground with your builder https://www.nairaland.com/3018907/fence-design-costing-constuction-harneyprojects

@Temi231

A bit more technical but I assure you that it's worth applying yourself to whatever calculation is taught by Podosci and AbdulWatecx. Those two are engineering icons on here and you'll learn and save money.

There's a lot of noise here by a few disgruntled nicompoops pissing about but you'll be able to sort the wheat from the chaff.

lastpage:


Speak for yourself Bro!

You think all those people are not reading this thread and they have decided its best left open?
No be today now.

You cant lock the thread ......simply because some people have a disagreement over Client/Contractor Money..... or one person is acting like an Egit!
There is more to the thread than that.[color=#000099][/color]




Lastpage!

hmmmm........

Same old story everyday,
Same argument without positive outcome,
Same issues without a way forward,
Different "punch lines" everyday,

Any positive result since? NO

Those involved should open a thread and sort things out there. Majority of ppl come to this thread to learn and gain things about building construction (which I Blv that's the main reason for this thread).

DISCUSS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN BUILDING CONSTRUCTION

the lunatic is back and calling his betters nincompoops, honestly, he is a textbook example of a stubborn goat, baba have you paid your ex wives and their children their entitlements for last month or do you want to spend time in jail before you do?how's your one year, one block project going? #babagoslow. @brabus, guy please make sacrifices, these guys are really destroying your reputation here big time.

agarawu23:
hmmmm........

Same old story everyday,
Same argument without positive outcome,
Same issues without a way forward,
Different "punch lines" everyday,

Any positive result since? NO

Those involved should open a thread and sort things out there. Majority of ppl come to this thread to learn and gain things about building construction (which I Blv that's the main, reason for this thread).

DISCUSS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IN BUILDING CONSTRUCTION

guy park well joor, so you know that the thread is great yet you asked for it to be deleted because some people were called out for their misdeeds? the contract was conducted here in public so let it be sorted out in the public, anyway, how's your night?

abouzaid:
guy park well joor, so you know that the thread is great yet you asked for it to be deleted because some people were called out for their misdeeds? the contract was conducted here in public so let it be sorted out in the public, anyway, how's your night?

great when we have reasonable things to read.

My night was cool. Yours?

But there're changes.

I don't think I'm a mortuary attendant in the US anymore and I now allegedly work for a renowned Nigerian topmost builder

Oh and that I also pay spousal support, that's a new one, I'm sure there'll be more but the day is still young.

So yes there're changes

lastpage:


Again, you are showing your "Ijebu-gene"!
Always "smelling Money from far-off"!

l will invest in a ferry service (as in standard types, not the Canoe wanna-be ferry service without all the works) that will make driving unattractive for car owners who live in Ikorodu area and work in Ajah/Lekki/V.I axis.... or at least can take them long with their cars.

I know a lot of people cant swim, (at least not in the Atlantic! ) and so, are scared of boarding a ferry (remember that Senatorial candidate who lost his life crossing the waters in Ikorodu, during the 2015 elections?) ... but when they see a standard ferry service that guarantees "minimum protection", l am sure they would opt for it, than driving all around through Ikorodu-Ketu-Mile12- Ojota-3rd mainland-Ikoyi-VI/Lekki/Ajah, back and forth.

[b]Can we have a consortium for this..... just like people come together, to fund estates?[/b]



Lastpage!

If you're for real, I'm all in.

I believe we can make it like that of Staten island NY to Downtown (Manhattan) NY ?

podosci:
There is misconception in Nigeria about what constitutes a raft foundation and there are many other types of foundation that economic logic dictates we consider before settling for raft foundation.
But first things first, do a comprehensive Geotechnical test to bring to light the bearing capacity of the soild at different depts along the soil profile, The soi profile of the land, the water table.... Its only with this information and an accurate design can a proper estimate be made...
You cant just say swampy land and quote 1.5m has the suited depth of your raft...its wrong
Do a Geotechnical test

It's strange to say even some fence may require piling. And that is the biter true. The best thing to do for a site that is questionable is soil test!

a renowned Nigerian builder that you can't even give your home building project, baba you no get shame o, it's far honourable for you to keep your trap shut than to be rambling like a confused and subdued pretender trying to masquerade behind an alpha male screen.how is the operation one year, one block going? let's have hope, maybe we would attend the house warning ceremony in the year 3016, #fakelifestyle.

agarawu23:
great when we have reasonable things to read.

My night was cool. Yours?

great my brother, please forgive my online tantrums, i no be like that o.

l will invest in a ferry service (as in standard types, not the Canoe wanna-be ferry service without all the works) that will make driving unattractive for car owners who live in Ikorodu area and work in Ajah/Lekki/V.I axis.... or at least can take them long with their cars.

I know a lot of people cant swim, (at least not in the Atlantic! ) and so, are scared of boarding a ferry (remember that Senatorial candidate who lost his life crossing the waters in Ikorodu, during the 2015 elections?) ... but when they see a standard ferry service that guarantees "minimum protection", l am sure they would opt for it, than driving all around through Ikorodu-Ketu-Mile12- Ojota-3rd mainland-Ikoyi-VI/Lekki/Ajah, back and forth.

Can we have a consortium for this..... just like people come together, to fund estates?

Lastpage!

Qc1:

If you're for real, I'm all in.
I believe we can make it like that of Staten island NY to Downtown (Manhattan) NY ?

This is it! This is the only thing that this “platform” should aim as its objective "to brings the parties together to make things happen." To bring elites and professionals together to "Think ahead for Nigeria." But then, for the grievance mongers, whom I suppose happiness isn’t their goal. Whatever they do, they certainly can’t allow that to happen.

Yet, again this thread has entered the uncharted waters due to confusion over who wins the championship belt of the Ultimate Victim and strong desire to get something for nothing. My only regrets is why I came as a black.

So happy someone could still swim in the murky water. I'll be more happier if these dream can come to reality some day.

God bless, Nigeria.

Morning All

I find it strange when some people say that the forum does not have any effect, now when brabus defrauded me with a fake building plan, he has only paid 50k out of 400k and has been giving me story since, things have taken a new dimension when he stopped picking up my calls. If you think that I have forgotten, brabus I have not forgotten my remaining balance, just re-strategizing.

Bosun Davies Shoyoye / Brabus / N3xt / BrabusINTL, when am i getting the remaining balance ?

If you advice some clients to do a Geothecnic test on his property, they might ignore the advice...If he proceds to doing the test, to acquire the services of a competent Geothecnic company is difficult..... There are many chalenges in Nigeria preventing the middle and lower class from constructing the perfect structure

Thank you all for your positive responses, i will surely make the best use of your advice.

mavverick:
Morning All

I find it strange when some people say that the forum does not have any effect, now when brabus defrauded me with a fake building plan, he has only paid 50k out of 400k and has been giving me story since, things have taken a new dimension when he stopped picking up my calls. If you think that I have forgotten, brabus I have not forgotten my remaining balance, just re-strategizing.

Bosun Davies Shoyoye / Brabus / N3xt / BrabusINTL, when am i getting the remaining balance ?

Bros, I know many people have been programmed to desire pity more than anything — even above respect or love and this stems from their selfishness. How many times more will a constructive discussion been derailed when you feel that only your opinion counts because you’re the only one who “knows what it feels like to be a victim”?

Just so you may know based on our last conversation, I've asked you to explore other means of getting the fund if you cannot wait for me to offset your request for a refund from my pocket. No need to rehash the same old argument. So long I didn't give you the fake approval (and that it came from the government office itself), eni to je gbi, lo maa ku gbi.

Thanks.


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Next time, when you call and I didn't pick, just leave me a message. I returned your calls yesternight.

Well my comments are just one of many, and I do not feel I am pouring sand into another persons gari, that is thier business.

So you didnt give me the fake approval, it was a ghost that gave me ?
So you didnt collect the money ?
So you didnt provide the guarantee ?
So I didnt tell you that you will be the responsible one if any issues occur, which clearly it has.
Did I not make it clear you will be responsible ?
If the refund doesnt come from your pocket, did you expect me to collect it from Buhari before ?

As others have told you, you clearly have a big problem.

brabus:


Bros, I know many people have been programmed to desire pity more than anything — even above respect or love and this stems from their selfishness. How many times more will a constructive discussion been derailed when you feel that only your opinion counts because you’re the only one who “knows what it feels like to be a victim”?

Just so you may know based on our last conversation, I've asked you to explore other means of getting the fund if you cannot wait for me to offset your request for a refund from my pocket. No need to rehash the same old argument. So long I didn't give you the fake approval (and that it came from the government office itself), I'm ready to bear whatever the consequences.

Thanks.


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Next time, when you call and I didn't pick, just leave me a message. I returned your calls yesternight.

mavverick:
Well my comments are just one of many, and I do not feel I am pouring sand into another persons gari, that is thier business.

So you didnt give me the fake approval, it was a ghost that gave me ?
So you didnt collect the money ?
So you didnt provide the guarantee ?
So I didnt tell you that you will be the responsible one if any issues occur, which clearly it has.
Did I not make it clear you will be responsible ?
If the refund doesnt come from your pocket, did you expect me to collect it from Buhari before ?

As others have told you, you clearly have a big problem.

Just so you may know based on our last conversation, I've asked you to explore other means of getting the fund if you cannot wait for me to offset your request for a refund from my pocket. No need to rehash the same old argument. So long I didn't give you the fake approval (and that it came from the government office itself), eni to je gbi, lo maa ku gbi.

Thanks.

I knew everyday you need something to fight about, something to complain about, something to cry about, someone to make your folly. Without this, you feel like you will cease to exist. I'm sorry pick on someone else for today. I need to leave now for something that will bring money to the table. While I'm away, please leave me a message.

By the way, how is Adeekiti, Rushtec, Opalu, KolaShangOne doing on your project? Funny they didn't read the warning signs.

mavverick:
Morning All

I find it strange when some people say that the forum does not have any effect, now when brabus defrauded me with a fake building plan, he has only paid 50k out of 400k and has been giving me story since, things have taken a new dimension when he stopped picking up my calls. If you think that I have forgotten, brabus I have not forgotten my remaining balance, just re-strategizing.

Bosun Davies Shoyoye / Brabus / N3xt / BrabusINTL, when am i getting the remaining balance ?

Morning guys,

So Brabus own a $50,000 sony set but common 400k naira he no fit pay?

Speaking of blackman's mentality..#fakelife.

And then he wants naija to progress..even after selling FAKE BUILDING APPROVAL to his client who was putting food on his table?....

Are you guys on nairaland reading this or just purposely decide to look the other way?

Btw ...we all waited to the movie yesterday but obviously all na bragado....you are a boy who cant keep his word ...one day ur kids will be able to google their Daddy's name online and will be so proud of how honorable he was.