twinskenny:
enough comic relief... anyway just came back from enugu shame i couldnt meet our able engr oga Spyder himself.. going back real soon too, lovely city a must say.... and by the way i really enjoyed the fews days good to get away from buzzling and huzzling of lagos city


God always reward those who keep to there words... Oga brabus do the needful so that this matter can rest once and for all God will help you too.

Don't mind me, I sneaked out of Enugu on Monday and just came back, I will make sure we see in Enugu when next you come, need to share a bottle or two of some non alcoholic stuff wen you come. We must work together soon, I am just starting a finish at Umuahia and will tell the client about you. Thanks.

Here's another twist to it (except you believe some people are not prone to error in life). Maverrick took a loan from the bank to build a house. And he contacted his old friend, Brabus to build the house. And you are the manager of the bank. Maverrick's loan is meant to build a house but he couldn't got what he bargained for from Brabus.

Now, as the bank manager, here's you word to Maverrick:

adanny01:


Does it really matter, when a client gives you money, am sure there is an agreement of what he gets as value of it. If you fail, you renegotiate and pay back what you are supposed to. Thats the point. I dont need all the break down since i am in the field, same as you but bigger as in BEME.

We are talking of value here. The value of the carcass above to a builder and to the client differs. The difference is the profit. However, since the contract involves you delivering a non existing carcass. You have to be sure that your value plus a reasonable profit margin say 10-20% is equal to the clients value. If its not equal, you will have a serious problem such as you have at hand.

The value of 400k to Maverick is orginal building permit but to you as the contractor it wasnt, hence the problem. Learn to give value for money as agreed or refund when you fail. If you cant refund show serious commitment and regret.

Now, let's consider the plight of Maverrick in this case. He was been haunted by the bank manager for an unintentional offense and at the same time couldn't recover the fund from Brabus. Worse still, he's been called names for falling victim.
Wouldn't it be better if the bank manager work with him to recover some of the lost fund. You may believe there's truly no need for that.
If we continue to shout Dasuki is a thief (like we are used to back in the days), nothing will happen until we the populace work with the law enforcement agencies to bring Dasuki to book.


Anyway, do you really think I'll pay Maverrick in 10k installment. Let's see what happens by September.

Singular or plural, na the same old putrid stench

spyder880:


Don't mind me, I sneaked out of Enugu on Monday and just came back, I will make sure we see in Enugu when next you come, need to share a bottle or two of some non alcoholic stuff wen you come. We must work together soon, I am just starting a finish at Umuahia and will tell the client about you. Thanks.

You dey sneak go take non-alcoholic drinks abi? I dey watch una for Sony 4K.

agarawu23:
oga, where you hide your list since 2 days? I find u go house I no see u

I go buy new 400 leaves hard back,
Some strong men here snatch my 60 leaves like ballot box on election day

brabus:
@ agarawu23,

I don't know what to say. Welcome to Hajji's School of Building.

Na so we dey roll for here. as the proprietor don talk, just learn how to do it without getting dirty.

Oga brabus, I don check my list your name appear three times with different name,abeg tell me the real one cos my list is getting ready like the Nigerian Budget

erico2k2:

Oga brabus, I don check my list your name appear three times with different name,abeg tell me the real one cos my list is getting ready like the Nigerian Budget

You remind me.

Back in the primary school days, my dad will write XYZ's property on all my textbooks. As a result my friends do call me Son of Mr Property.

n3xt, NextHome, BrabusNG and Brabus are the official userIDs.

adanny01:


If Maverick took this case to the police, these would have probably happened:
1. Brabus gets arrested and spend time in jail
2. Brabus has to post bail
3. Brabus will need a lawyer and pay for services
4. Brabus will lose his case
5. Brabus will pay the 400 through the court and pay for Maverick's lawyer.

All this will cost Brabus much more than settlement out of court. You would probably call Maverick a wicked man.

But no, Maverick has accepted 300k, 50k upfront and balance 10k every week for 25 wks spanning more than 6months. It shows that Maverick actually wants Brabus to own up and be upright. This whole issue am sure is not about the money, but about who Brabus is.

Dont you think Maverick has been too kind to get the kind of things you have been saying about him.

What if the thief actually shows up to your neighbours house every day and you keep ignoring. Its not rocket science to suspect you are in on it. A Doctor may get patients everyday claiming to feel like their hearts will fail, yet he has to test them before sending them home with clean bill of health. You have to rule out the chances.

If the thief is accused wrongly and you ignore, who stands for the thief. Will you allow him get jungle justice saying its not your business?

Bro wake up, he was consenting to sharp practices. That is the sole reason he is looking for communal efforts to pressure his ex.builder to cough out the money. Who is fooling who? Maverick paid for "clear road" so the building can continue. Let us stop talking about Maverick as if he is mentally challenged...

n3xt:
Here's another twist to it (except you believe some people are not prone to error in life). Maverrick took a loan from the bank to build a house. And he contacted his old friend, Brabus to build the house. And you are the manager of the bank. Maverrick's loan is meant to build a house but he couldn't got what he bargained for from Brabus.

Now, as the bank manager, here's you word to Maverrick:



Now, let's consider the plight of Maverrick in this case. He was been haunted by the bank manager for an unintentional offense and at the same time couldn't recover the fund from Brabus. Worse still, he's been called names for falling victim.
Wouldn't it be better if the bank manager work with him to recover some of the lost fund. You may believe there's truly no need for that.


Anyway, do you really think I'll pay Maverrick in 10k installment. Let's see what happens by September.

Pls get my point, your predicament to my understanding is not because you are stuck in the middle but because you refuse to cooperate, accept fault or offer a workable solution. On top of it you throw attitude into the matter. The latest is

Anyway, do you really think I'll pay Maverrick in 10k installment. Let's see what happens by September.

Its not the bank manager's responsibilty to chase Mavericks contractor. It is Brabus the contractor who either has to be really diplomatic with Maverick or make sure he finishes the house as agreed or make refund. It is you who signed the contract and it is you who is liable. Businesses fail but you dont let your client bear the brunt, it is you who failed not your client so he deserves a refund.

Visit a bar, if they give you a flat beer, you are entitled to a replacement, period. There bar can go settle with the supplier. It is not the bar tenders fault just like you, but he bears the immediate loss. He can go and redeem his loss from his supplier.

Besides, since Maverick took a loan and gave you which you agreed to build the entire house, you have no excuse thats why contracts are binding. Maverick is responsible for his loan and its not your business so the bank cant come to you.

Ikhige:



Bro wake up, he was consenting to sharp practices. That is the sole reason he is looking for communal efforts to pressure his ex.builder to cough out the money. Who is fooling who? Maverick paid for "clear road" so the building can continue. Let us stop talking about Maverick as if he is mentally challenged...

Now you see!

All this while you were partisan but pretended not to be.

I have read them and Maverick showed that was not what he paid or agreed for! This brings us back to the matter of value i was telling Brabus. If i pay you money for supply of 0.55 guage aluminum sheet and you suppy 0.45, i have all right to request for refund.

They have passed this stage and i dont see why you are returning it there.

Are you being for real ?
When will I receive first payment ??

n3xt:


I like that. Standing order GTBANK to GTBANK. You have it bro.

It'll be setup as requested.


_____
Sheriff, I no wan hear story o say supplier never pay o. I don set standing order for 10k per week.

adanny01:


Now you see!

All this while you were partisan but pretended not to be.

I have read them and Maverick showed that was not what he paid or agreed for! This brings us back to the matter of value i was telling Brabus. If i pay you money for supply of 0.55 guage aluminum sheet and you suppy 0.45, i have all right to request for refund.

They have passed this stage and i dont see why you are returning it there.

You soft d*cks are more concerned about where I stand, that is not it. By your example, he/she will be making refunds ASAP without disturbing others on nairaland. Bro, someone built his mom's house when he was 19 yrs old (2007) with no knowledge about building and no one messed up cos everyone were aware that he can fight for his rights through conventional medium. I can't teach you your rights. You don't come online to beg for justice, you fight for it.

Ikhige:
You soft d*cks are more concerned about where I stand, that is not it. By your example, he/she will be making refunds ASAP without disturbing others on nairaland. Bro, someone built his mom's house when he was 19 yrs old (2007) with no knowledge about building and no one messed up cos everyone were aware that he can fight for his rights through conventional medium. I can't teach you your rights. You don't come online to beg for justice, you fight for it.

You are getting hostile and confused? SMH

adanny01:


What do u suggest, Maverick picks up his glock and heads to Brabus home to fight for his right? SMH

Please drop the weed for a sec. picking up a glock is not conventional! go to the relevant authorities to report him. Haba! make I come teach you primary 4 social studies?

Ikhige:



Bro wake up, he was consenting to sharp practices. That is the sole reason he is looking for communal efforts to pressure his ex.builder to cough out the money. Who is fooling who? Maverick paid for "clear road" so the building can continue. Let us stop talking about Maverick as if he is mentally challenged...

You chose to believe Maverick asked for "clear road" even after seeing this or would you say you jumped on the thread ignorantly?

adanny01:


You chose to believe Maverick asked for "clear road" even after seeing this or would you say you jumped on the thread ignorantly?

If they can communicate and laff about it after 6pages, why can't they just take it offline and stop disturbing us here? You all can talk and talk but that won't serve any purpose at all. If anyone is not meeting up to agreement, you go enter keke go police station. I am tired of you all. Ogbeni go sleep, you guys can't just get it. Wetin concern commot for road concern see theif? Na wah o. New generation nazi warriors, we all must see things their own way...wey sense?

It is good to do a good job no matter what. We did this job in Federal palace hotel, victoria ireland lagos, last year and has been given another contract which I am going to update you guys. Chill

abouzaid:
you're gradually looking for trouble with words like irate ipob and ibolas, we don't discuss such here o.

Thanks for making it clear that we don't do e-warfare in the property section. The most controversies I've witnessed on Nairaland property forum were generated by Brabus and his various clients. This forum afforded me the opportunity to build my house in Lekki from diaspora with ease as a result of the lessons I learnt from people that showcased their projects and also from the seasoned builders on this forum. I was particularly inspired by a guy 'Oluwa Champion' who posted his building project from foundation to completion on this forum. I believe that this forum gave me the opportunity to make a savings of nothing less than 2 Million Naira as a result of the lesson I learnt from it.
I must say that I felt extremely disappointed when the Brabus/Maverick saga degenerated into people insulting each other recklessly. However annoyed we are, we should refrain from using abusive and insultive language. The fundamental mistake Brabus makes every time is that he tries to be confrontational with his clients instead of applying good customer service strategy to manage the situation. I remember telling him in one of my post that there's no point for him to get into a fight that he's surely going to be the looser. I hope he will redeem his promise to refund the sum of 250K to Maverick and draw a line on the case.
The property forum is the best on Nairaland and I hope we'll continue to have a useful and grown up discussion as we used to.

In order to cleanup this thread... a new thread has been opened to accommodate all the bickering, bashing, praising and reviews.

Review, Bash or Praise Your Clients, Builders, Contractors, Suppliers or Service Providers.

https://www.nairaland.com/3038050/review-bash-praise-clients-builders


Hajji M.

After finishing

agarawu23:
A house of your own and a business to maintain your life and households. The rest na 'jara'

Daily arguments won't pay bills or put food on your table.

Dude reply my pm

@ Bolded, I want to assume you dont really mean that.
dont throw away the baby with the bath water....like u said.
you wont believe the amount of business and benefit brought to bear , solely by reason of this forum's existence.
this section probably facilitates scores of successful and honest transactions on the daily. I for one have benefited and can attest to that.

adanny01:


Is it because some of us are silent that it gives you the audacity to imply on our behalf that fraudsters should have a field day while we refuse to care. The fact is, am scared to my bones in dealing on Nairaland because of people like Brabus. The man clearly did wrong and has begun reinbursment, after which he missed several datelines. Whatever you are saying sounds like an encouragement to him and others who plan to defraud.

Call a spade a spade and dont throw the bath water with the baby!

No one has stopped you from asking relevant questions. If it pleases you, skip all post of the affected people.

brabus:
Hajji Mufutau55,
My unreserved apologies to you for the umpteenth time on this thread and so many others for been the subject that causes a total shutdown of the most popular thread on Nairaland properties.

I wish there's something I could do quickly to make this go away. Anyway, as a prodigal son, I'm tendering my note of apology to you and all other users of this thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

Apology accepted Sir. And I like the agreement/promise of the N250k payoff. Please let it happen and soon. Thank you.

Hajji M.

nabiz:
After finishing

Oga Nabiz... No advertisement in this thread o. Thaks.

Hajji M.

allCopacetic:
@ Bolded, I want to assume you dont really mean that.
dont throw away the baby with the bath water....like u said.
you wont believe the amount of business and benefit brought to bear , solely by reason of this forum's existence.
this section probably facilitates scores of successful and honest transactions on the daily. I for one have benefited and can attest to that.

Thank you. I can assure you that we still have a lots of honest, hardworking, dedicated people on Nairaland.
I deal and recommend many of them on a daily basis, but some with "Disclamer" until their agreement is fulfilled, which in most case is.

Hajji M.

mufutau55:

Oga Nabiz... No advertisement in this thread o. Thaks.
Hajji M.

mufutau55:

Oga Nabiz... No advertisement in this thread o. Thaks.
Hajji M.

ah! Noted Good morning

Oga esoorita, you no try at all. You go stand by ringside dey watch things degenerate.

I'm sure no one knew I went through all that I was revealing in the past few days because I was silent about it since last year. Everyone just feel Brabus don kill another big fish again. Otherwise, why will he be the only one to be attacked by all client as if I be ojuju calabar.

What will do you when your life, your family, your friend is been threatened because you collect work? I should continue to work in such site so that Nairaland go clap for me say I finish house.
What will you do when a client who wanted to build 2 duplexes at the same time had only N4m of his own money and is only hoping to get loan from friend and bank to complete work? Meanwhile, I no get X-Ray vision to scan which client be fully loaded or acting big man. I should continue to work with which money.

They're all humans of Nairaland.

Good to see you brought back good old memories of how myself, am_alone and spyder880 were building our individual houses back then in 2011. There was no bickering, no insult. Even though everybody knew say Na chicken-coop-later-turned-Chateau I dey build that time (one block, one month). Everybody is just trying to do their thing it was cool. No beef.

Pics to refresh our memories.

@ bolded.... without a doubt,
I've had first hand experience

mufutau55:


Thank you. I can assure you that we still have a lots of honest, hardworking, dedicated people on Nairaland.
I deal and recommend many of them on a daily basis, but some with "Disclamer" until their agreement is fulfilled, which in most case is.

Hajji M.

Myosotis:


Dude reply my pm

I just pmed u now, reply with your msg.

GM

abouzaid:
you're gradually looking for trouble with words like irate ipob and ibolas, we don't discuss such here o.

Oga
Na just ibod I talk o. I ain't looking for any trouble, here no be politics section.

GM
How was your night?

erico2k2:

I go buy new 400 leaves hard back,
Some strong men here snatch my 60 leaves like ballot box on election day

baba, this time around, na higher education you need some name go appear 100 times in a day

erico2k2:

I go buy new 400 leaves hard back,
Some strong men here snatch my 60 leaves like ballot box on election day

*raises hand*

So Professori, how una dey take handle noisemaker wey school forcefully expel and then they register under another name mid course?

Is gate closed at your site or madam is continuing the work?