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For me, I don't hide my opinion about things like this, I don't try to impress anyone or to be politically correct. I will allow you to bring up the ibaka sea project by Godswill Akpabio, you will discover the way some sections of the media propagated how unviable the project will be, they attacked and attacked the project to a halt.. now fast forward to 2016 a railway project was claimed to have budgeted for in this year infrastructure budget to a whooping sum of 60billion dollars.. choi! and the national assembly removed them because they are hindering the success of PMB (that's what they want us to believe)lol.. This same project was denied by Budgit.com at least they're somehow credible because they published the first budget when it was passed, stolen, padded and represented again (LWTMB! this budget don suffer what a funny country).
Now looking at the attention diversion strategy the conspirators of this drama, actually wanted to put the masses against nass, and absorb PMB from the blame. now ask yourself, why did the newspapers report that the Nass removed those project, ? "Mind you the main target here is Calabar -lagos railway line" the reason is to divert attention and blame...
Then on another angle, why is the railway line seem to be more important to calabar than to lagos?
what and what have changed on viability of calabar/akwaibom to host sea port, but railway line by some sections of the media propaganda. The answer is simple, the railway line is a project that's aimed at diverting attention and those supporting it now, are supporting it because it's not a project that will give you (south south) economic independence,rather a parasitic one to lagos...
why not use that same money to make all the coastlines viable for goods and services.. they will come and tell me how important the mirage railway line will be,but they'll never tell you same about ibaka sea
shine your eyes! this project is a poisonous project aimed at diverting a lot of things not only attention!

Ibaka sea port.
You can ask Jonathan and friends to fund that.
$3 billion only. Just a tiny amount out of the over $150 billion they looted.
Lagos - calabar is inconsequential to us and will lead to a destruction of our coastal fiona and fauna.
We would rather have lagos -shagamu- ibadan - ife -akure - Benin to terminate at Warri.

oduastates:
Ibaka sea port.
You can ask Jonathan and friends to fund that.
$3 billion only

really? so what happens to the propaganda against it? how unviable it is..

Super story

How is the ibaka port going to be different from the onne port?

Obiagelli:
How is the ibaka port going to be different from the onne port?

onne is exclusively reserved for crude oil export by FG..

Obiagelli:
How is the ibaka port going to be different from the onne port?

Can u imagine that SS/SE have no deep seaport and people are talking railway? The world is wicked.

Obiagelli:
How is the ibaka port going to be different from the onne port?

How is Lagos - Calabar railway going to be different from the objective of 2nd Niger bridge.

What actually changed? Why is the southwest aggressively against 2nd Niger bridge but favours the rail line?

Hypocrites think the Easterners are still dumb.

Stolen:
Can u imagine that SS/SE have no deep seaport and people are talking railway? The world is wicked.

But onne is not viable at the moment, what is the guarantee ibaka will?

I honestly don't see anything wrong with the costal rail project, i all for linking the entire country by standard guage rail.

LadyExcellency:
How is Lagos - Calabar railway going to be different from the objective of 2nd Niger bridge.

What actually changed? Why is the southwest aggressively against 2nd Niger bridge but favours the rail line?

Hypocrites think the Easterners are still dumb.

Why should the country only be linked by road?
Why exactly are you against this project?

Pls lets aviod this SE vs SW thing here, i need to be educated on why the coastal rail is bad for us.

I am neither in APC or in PDP but i think APC should have concentrated efforts to link APC states and not struggling to PDP states with APC states

oduastates:
Ibaka sea port.
You can ask Jonathan and friends to fund that.
$3 billion only. Just a tiny amount out of the over $150 billion they looted.
Lagos - calabar is inconsequential to us and will lead to a destruction of our coastal fiona and fauna.
We would rather have lagos -shagamu- ibadan - ife -akure - Benin to terminate at Warri.

Despite the yearly allocation of several billions of naira for the construction of a proposed greenfield deep seaport at Ibaka in Akwa Ibom State by both the State Government and the Nigeria Ports Authority (NPA) since 2011, the project has remained elusive, with no evidence of a port being built at the proposed site.

The project is missing in the National Integrated Infrastructure Master Plan and in the list of similar projects planned in partnership between the federal government and state government, with expectations of private investors collaborations, investigations by LEADERSHIP have revealed.

The Ibaka Deep Seaport, a project for which the federal ministry of transport, the NPA and the Akwa Ibom State Government have held several workshops and taken commendations at several events is also missing in a maritime and air transport report prepared by Steer Davies Gleave for the Infrastructure Consortium for Africa (ICA) hosted by

The African Development Bank.

The study, which was carried out to assess the potential for enhanced private participation in the maritime and air transport sectors in Africa however identified the Lekki Deep Seaport measuring 970m of container berths, 320m dry bulk berth, 1-2 oil berths and located 60km east of Lagos.

The Badagry greefield port, Koko Port and Olokola Port were also listed with their capacity and promoters.

The water at Ibaka is said to have a natural draft of 11 metres, without dredging, making it a huge potential for possible deep seaport construction.

Akwa Ibom State has continued to budget for the port, which Governor Godswill Akpabio said would create employment for 100,000 Nigerians.[/b]

The NPA had also told LEADERSHIP in Uyo at the PCC meeting that the deep seaport would be completed in 2015.

When LEADERSHIP visited the proposed site of the deep seaport at Ibaka, there was nothing to show that a seaport was being planned at coastal community.

[b]A lonely dilapidated narrow road, better described as a colonial road leads to Ibaka, from Oron. As early as 2011, the Akwa Ibom State Governor told a Nigeria Ports Consultative Council (PCC) meeting in Uyo that his government had concluded plans to dualise the road.

http://allafrica.com/stories/201312160580.html

Akpabio budgets billions every year for this invisible seaport.

1. Ibaka seaport is not in the FG gazette and there is zero FG budget for it.

Meaning the FG doesn't know anything about this seaport officially

2. Akpabio budgets billions for this bridge every year with not even bush clearing or fence erected.

Meaning Akpabio pockets free billions every year.

asorocker:
I am neither in APC or in PDP but i think APC should have concentrated efforts to link APC states and not struggling to PDP states with APC states

They are not spending apc money but nigeria's money. The Apc should not go the gej route that deliberatly staved lagos and rivers of projects over politics

Obiagelli:
They are not spending apc money but nigeria's money. The Apc should not go the gej route that deliberatly staved lagos and rivers of projects over politics

But even if they had money they wanted to spend for the pdp states at least they could use the money to complete second Niger bridge and East west road before coming up with a project that they are not sure they can complete on schedule.

LadyExcellency:
How is Lagos - Calabar railway going to be different from the objective of 2nd Niger bridge.

What actually changed? Why is the southwest aggressively against 2nd Niger bridge but favours the rail line?

Hypocrites think the Easterners are still dumb.

It's shameful the way you guys have reduced this Lagos-calabar railway to anothe SW vs SE nonsense. For Godsake, this project cut across states in the south west, south east and south south. It would ease the movement of people and goods across the entire southern Nigeria and you guys are opposing it just to spite the south west. If you hate the people of south west that much, do you also hate your brothers in the south south?

The Northerners are united in promoting the Lagos to Kano rail line, we are here pulling down each other out of stupidity. I am sure it is similar mentality like the ones being displayed here that made law makers from the south to look away when northern law makers were cancelling the Lagos-calabar railway line and moving funds meant for it to that of Kano. Who gains from this nonsense at the end of the day?

asorocker:
But even if they had money they wanted to spend for the pdp states at least they could use the money to complete second Niger bridge and East west road before coming up with a project that they are not sure they can complete on schedule.

The second niger bridge is already captured in the budget. You argument illogical, how do you know they will not meet the schedule for the rail while you somehow know they will for the eastwest road

seunmsg:
It's shameful the way you guys have reduced this Lagos-calabar railway to anothe SW vs SE nonsense. For Godsake, this project cut across states in the south west, south east and south south. It would ease the movement of people and goods across the entire southern Nigeria and you guys are opposing it just to spite the south west. If you hate the people of south west that much, do you also hate your brothers in the south south?

The Northerners are united in promoting the Lagos to Kano rail line, we are here pulling down each other out of stupidity. I am sure it is similar mentality like the ones being displayed here that made law makers from the south to look away when northern law makers were cancelling the Lagos-calabar railway line and moving funds meant for it to that of Kano. Who gains from this nonsense at the end of the day?

I am waiting for someone to tell me the cons of this rail project

Obiagelli:
I am waiting for someone to tell me the cons of this rail project

@Obiagelli
I would advise you not to bother engaging some of these people especially as it concerns the benefits of this rail project. I was engaged in an argument this afternoon and I was totally appalled at what I encountered. A particular character specifically argued that a coastal railway would add absolutely no value to Nigeria's economy and that on the downside, it would destroy the 'sea front view' (whatever that means). He also went further to claim that a coastal railway 'would kill people by accidents,' lamenting that the amount of road accident we have is already enough and we shouldn't be adding other sources of accidents.

At first I thought I may have been 'seriously' conversing with a 'Musiwa' a.k.a becomrich, but then it dawned on me that the person I was conversing with was just a hardcore ipob adherent. 'Some' of these guys are hell bent on opposing anything from this government, irrespective of its benefits. Some also do not want any major developmental projects in the SE or SS just to justify their irrational prejudice against Buhari; you sometimes read statements like "Buhari should take his projects to the SW and north and leave the SE&SS alone." But then again, there are even some who specifically do not want anything that links the SE to the SW or other regions of the country. It would be an impossible task explaining to some of these guys with this mindset the importance of anything called a railway. Save your breath!

Those who term this 'cal-Lag railway confusion' a conspiracy against the development of the SS by the SWners and the Northerners should understand this, no serious economical development project that can maximally boost the economy of any region has really been executed by the FG. Almost all the existing infrastructures that REALLY affect Nigeria's economy were built by those who founded Nigeria. Lagos sea/air port, existing Lag-Kano railway, Lag-Ibadan express, Benin-Sagam express...

If we've had reasonable and dedicated government in Nigeria, minimum of 4 of the country's 8 coastal states would have seaports. There would be to and fro railway in these connections below:
1. Lag-Sokoto-Maiduguri-Calabar-Lagos.
2. Calabar-Abuja-Sokoto
3. Lagos-Abuja-Maiduguri.

As much as I agree with the OP that a deep seaport is very well needed in the SS, Lag-Cal coastal railway line is not less important.

Obiagelli:
Why should the country only be linked by road?
Why exactly are you against this project?

Pls lets aviod this SE vs SW thing here, i need to be educated on why the coastal rail is bad for us.

Please leave Nairaland and get yourself into the real business of socio-political-economics of Nigeria to get insight on why the battle for the soul of Nigeria for better understanding of regional politicking authored by the eminent Regionalist Obafemi Awolowo.

You are not qualified to discuss this thread and so with some other keyboard warriors that just invaded the thread.

seunmsg:
It's shameful the way you guys have reduced this Lagos-calabar railway to anothe SW vs SE nonsense. For Godsake, this project cut across states in the south west, south east and south south. It would ease the movement of people and goods across the entire southern Nigeria and you guys are opposing it just to spite the south west. If you hate the people of south west that much, do you also hate your brothers in the south south?

The Northerners are united in promoting the Lagos to Kano rail line, we are here pulling down each other out of stupidity. I am sure it is similar mentality like the ones being displayed here that made law makers from the south to look away when northern law makers were cancelling the Lagos-calabar railway line and moving funds meant for it to that of Kano. Who gains from this nonsense at the end of the day?

If I may ask, whose fault is it that the said "fictitious" project was removed?

Why is the Southwesterners trying so had to blame the Easterners?

Let the truth be told, the colonialists built the railways with the same purpose and objective as this Lagos-Calabar rail line. If you can decipher why the colonialists developed Nigeria railways then, you have my answers.

obailala:
@Obiagelli
I would advise you not to bother engaging some of these people especially as it concerns the benefits of this rail project. I was engaged in an argument this afternoon and I was totally appalled at what I encountered. A particular character specifically argued that a coastal railway would add absolutely no value to Nigeria's economy and that on the downside, it would destroy the 'sea front view' (whatever that means). He also went further to claim that a coastal railway 'would kill people by accidents,' lamenting that the amount of road accident we have is already enough and we shouldn't be adding other sources of accidents.

At first I thought I may have been 'seriously' conversing with a 'Musiwa' a.k.a becomrich, but then it dawned on me that the person I was conversing with was just a hardcore ipob adherent. 'Some' of these guys are hell bent on opposing anything from this government, irrespective of its benefits. Some also do not want any major developmental projects in the SE or SS just to justify their irrational prejudice against Buhari; you sometimes read statements like "Buhari should take his projects to the SW and north and leave the SE&SS alone." But then again, there are even some who specifically do not want anything that links the SE to the SW or other regions of the country. It would be an impossible task explaining to some of these guys with this mindset the importance of anything called a railway. Save your breath!

I can not figure out how you reason!! You have no argument here, what concerns another opinion made by someone else with mine? let me stop here you don't worth the long epistle.

LadyExcellency:
Please leave Nairaland and get yourself into the real business of socio-political-economics of Nigeria to get insight on why the battle for the soul of Nigeria for better understanding of regional politicking authored by the eminent Regionalist Obafemi Awolowo.

You are not qualified to discuss this thread and so with some other keyboard warriors that just invaded the thread.

Don't mind those little mind! they don't read fast! they think everything is APC and PDP... the people behind this buhaha are the same people against sea port in South south! they'll only call you names, because they have already configured minded that is fickled! I don't worry about them so much... They are people who are roaming proving to people that some blacks are not capable of reasoning..

why coastal rail.? it will destroy the Flora and fauna of Calabar.

LadyExcellency:
Please leave Nairaland and get yourself into the real business of socio-political-economics of Nigeria to get insight on why the battle for the soul of Nigeria for better understanding of regional politicking authored by the eminent Regionalist Obafemi Awolowo.

You are not qualified to discuss this thread and so with some other keyboard warriors that just invaded the thread.

ok

Obiagelli:
The second niger bridge is already captured in the budget. You argument illogical, how do you know they will not meet the schedule for the rail while you somehow know they will for the eastwest road

N60b is not enough to construct more than 800km of rail way line else where between Abuja and Kaduna they are proposing N140b ,if the second niger bridge was captured in the budget the federal government can as well use money to support and supplement the N17bn that is not enough to complete the bridge


However, aside having a major cut of about N8.8bn in the Presidency’s original figure with purchase of vehicles receiving the deepest cuts, the new version has provision of N17bn for capital expenditure allocated to Niger Bridge at Asaba-Onitsha in Delta and Anambra States. However, there was no such provision in the first version submitted to the National Assembly

http://thewillnigeria.com/news/national-assembly-gets-revised-2016-budget-as-buhari-budgets-n17bn-for-second-niger-bridge/

asorocker:
N60b is not enough to construct more than 800km of rail way line else where between Abuja and Kaduna they are proposing N140b ,if the second niger bridge was captured in the budget the federal government can as well use money to support and supplement the N17bn that is not enough to complete the bridge


However, aside having a major cut of about N8.8bn in the Presidency’s original figure with purchase of vehicles receiving the deepest cuts, the new version has provision of N17bn for capital expenditure allocated to Niger Bridge at Asaba-Onitsha in Delta and Anambra States. However, there was no such provision in the first version submitted to the National Assembly

http://thewillnigeria.com/news/national-assembly-gets-revised-2016-budget-as-buhari-budgets-n17bn-for-second-niger-bridge/

The coastal road isn't 100% fg funds, read about it.

In anycase someone said earlier this is not a pdp vs apc case but agrees its a SW v SE matter, while the north is enjoying its one project without dispute. So of you are inately stupid

Obiagelli:
In anycase someone said earlier this is not a pdp vs apc case but agrees its a SW v SE matter, while the north is enjoying its one project without dispute. So of you are inately stupid

whenever issue that bothers on economy comes up, yorubas dump party affiliation, same with hausafulani but igbo people can not see beyond party! we are talking of economy here!!! the sw people are cunny! their plan is very simple! can't you see it?? why is it very difficult?

seunmsg:
It's shameful the way you guys have reduced this Lagos-calabar railway to anothe SW vs SE nonsense. For Godsake, this project cut across states in the south west, south east and south south. It would ease the movement of people and goods across the entire southern Nigeria and you guys are opposing it just to spite the south west. If you hate the people of south west that much, do you also hate your brothers in the south south?

The Northerners are united in promoting the Lagos to Kano rail line, we are here pulling down each other out of stupidity. I am sure it is similar mentality like the ones being displayed here that made law makers from the south to look away when northern law makers were cancelling the Lagos-calabar railway line and moving funds meant for it to that of Kano. Who gains from this nonsense at the end of the day?

Nigeria is no more about its people. It's about its regions.. that tribalism.
Bros u sef can see what ur country men have been saying from top till bottom of this thread.
Someone was even mention apc state and pdp state.. like if there is no easy movement apc can progress no achieve anything.

PRXPERT:
whenever issue that bothers on economy comes up, yorubas dump party affiliation, same with hausafulani but igbo people can not see beyond party! we are talking of economy here!!! the sw people are cunny! their plan is very simple! can't you see it?? why is it very difficult?

You bigots have no shame I swear. How is this rail project about Yorubas being cunny? Why you guys are trying desperately to destroy a project that will benefit all southerners is what I don't understand.

For your information, the Lagos-Calabar coastal railway project was conceived and designed by the Goodluck Jonathan administration. The PMB administration only saw the sense in the project and decided to continue with it. It is not a Yoruba project as you are desperately trying to portray it.

Cross River is a state with huge tourist potentials. Making the state easily accessible to almost all parts of southern Nigeria through high speed rail is a project that should not even cause any argument. How can you develop calabars tourist potentials if people can't access the state easily?

And please, stop comparing the ibaka sea port with the railway project. They are two distinct projects meant to serve different purposes. Both are desirable and one should not be cancelled for the other. Any reasonable person from the south south should support the Lagos-calabar rail project and still push for the Ibaka sea port. Calling for the cancelling of the rail project because government is not finding the sea port project is simply crass.