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Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by mightyhazel: 11:58am On Apr 19, 2016 |
basbone:gbam! Any body who feels like shd dash herdsmen dia ancestral lands No problems! 7 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Emekamex(m): 11:59am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Emancipation: This nigga just said it all, if you allow the Fulani settle, you may never have peace in your land. They are just too crude and loathe eduaction, how then should I live with such people. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by BekeeBuAgbara: 12:01pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
joborskill:Uchu, what brings Igbo in this matter, are you stuupid? The Ondo state governor Olusegun Mimiko who is also against the bill, is he an Igbo man? Don't let hatred kill you. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by juman(m): 12:03pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
Grazing bill is not a good solution. Ranch system is the way out. 9 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by mountlarry: 12:05pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
joborskill: We not saying the same thing. If you have a parcel of land and the government takes it from you because someone's right of grazing on your land is to be met, and you say we are saying the same thing? What is wrong with negotiating with your host community if they willing to offer their lands? How many times have you heard that igbos destroy and rape at will in their host communities? What is wrong in training the herds men on modern rearing techniques? They are intelligent and can learn new methods 6 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by donguutti: 12:07pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
What happened to the old grazing reserves in northern Nigeria, what was the cause of their failure. What steps have been taken to mitigate future failure of grazing reserve.Since the introduction of this bill , no one has touched this issue.All the sophisticated zombies care about is land allocation from government. What happens if pig farmers decide to hire mercenaries to kill farmers on whose lands they Feed their pigs.Would we open Piggery reserves for them.Are we rewarding crime?In a time of stressed government revenue , is it appropriate to create another commission to PAD the bduget,(zombie style) 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PassingShot(m): 12:07pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
asha80:See "painment" |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by lanicky(f): 12:08pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
You have brought up an interesting issue. If Fulani herdsmen are not our problem then why should the government consider provision of grazing fields to end the violence. Although, I believe that the herdsmen need grazing fields regardless of whether or not it would end the violence, the violence of cattle rustlers(whoever they are) is what most people are concerned about. Also, I read about the forceful acquisition of ancestral lands to help the herdsmen. Government have always had to do some things forcefully in public interest. We all know that our meat primarily comes from the North, therefore they provide a public service to everyone in the country. We need them as much as they need us. If at all the government would acquire lands forcefully, they should be willing to pay the full value of the lands. IMO, I think they are better off granting grazing licence to private individuals. That way, they won't need to acquire lands forcefully. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Gext22: 12:08pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
There you have it ladies and gentlemen - the weak link in the southern regional chain. How In God's name did we get this kind of unfortunate region as neighbors? The guy was even making Comparisons to harmless traders who buy Lands at exorbitant prices and are often at the mercy of the state governments. And the herdsmen have proven from history to be unyielding and to overreach regardless of compromise. The Ss/se is In serious trouble of existential proportions if we do not remove ourselves from these fifth columnists and perpetual traitors who don't mind selling us all in the name of political sophistication and temporary political gain. 30 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PassingShot(m): 12:10pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
Lalasticlala Mynd44 Seun, let's discuss this at the FP. |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by luvinhubby(m): 12:14pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
PassingShot:If they want to establish ranches, the cows are sold for good money which they can use to purchase the land of their choice for the cattle rearing, the Igbo traders rent & buy their own shops & properties, let the Fulanis do so. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Litmus: 12:14pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
In all the so-called civilized Nations of the world whose political and social systems we say we want to adopt, this practices of moving cattle across the Nation would be banned if it brought with it unrest and deaths. Quite apart from what the West might do or not do, the reasonable thing to do is ban the movement of Herders until safety of the people can be assured. Actually, given the state of security in Nigeria, tackling terrorists, kidnappers, militants and so on, it is share madness for Nigeria to let herders continue to rove throughout Nigeria, armed. I love Nigeria culture and believe they should be preserved as much as possible, including Fulani herding their cattle, but right now, the "Herders Culture” is the perfect vessel for individuals or groups intent on causing harm, to lives and property, to exploit. The practise should be ether contained in ranches in the home origin or banned at least for now. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Gext22: 12:16pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
luvinhubby:These guys are unbelievable. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Iykopeee: 12:24pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
joborskill: The FG shud provide grazing field in the north, thats the solution to the problem. no igbo man got land for free in the north and federal govt didn't provide any free land for the igbos to build houses etc aswell. Now why shud we allow an idiiot to demand for free land in the EAST? if the fulani cant buy land and build ranches in the east, to hell. 8 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PreyingMantis(m): 12:25pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
PassingShot:My friend, let them stay in their states and rear their cattle. No one is against that. There is an abundance of arable grazing land in Northern Nigeria. Cattle rearers are business people like myself and I have NEVER received any type of preferential treatment from the government for doing my business. Rather I've experienced situations where I am constantly being harassed, harangued and over-taxed just because I find myself doing business in a particular location. Why would you take my land and give to a Fulani business man? Not just that, you also create a separate kingdom for them where it is forbidden for anyone to interfere in whatever goes on inside there. I do not know how much you people were paid by the evil APC government to come and launder this evil bill from the pit of hell. Whatever it is, it will be met with VERY STIFF resistance especially from Igboland. No inch, I repeat, no inch of Igboland will be ceded to any Fulani cattle rearers by this wicked Fulani government. We're getting ready for them. The dogs and the baboons are already warming up to soak themselves in Fulani blood. A word should be enough for the wise. 25 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PassingShot(m): 12:25pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
luvinhubby:And who has told you the ranches to be established for them will be free? Whichever way, they will pay a form of renting fee to the govt. |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PassingShot(m): 12:29pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
[s] PreyingMantis:[/s] Dull thing, certain businesses are controlled and regulated by the govt. Govts establish markets and take rents from shop owners. Most abattoirs are owned and run by govt while cattle owners pay certain amounts. No one is taking your land. Which land you get? I doubt if you have a single plot of land in your name. So, which land is that your land anyone is taking from you, empty chest beater? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PreyingMantis(m): 12:38pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
Gext22:They are the Bosnians Fani Kayode was referring to. They wouldn't know what hit them when shiit hits the fan. 2 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by olaitoro(m): 12:39pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
PassingShot: imagine the hypocrisy and bigotry of an average yoruba man. The fulani cattle business is now a unique one Why on God's earth do we have this cowards as neighbour in the south My friend your comment is reek of bigotry and hypocrisy. Spit 23 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Nobody: 12:42pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
BekeeBuAgbara: everyone knows the Easteners are the major opposers of the bill due to personal hatred for Buhari and the fulani's 2 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by olaitoro(m): 12:44pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
PassingShot: paying renting fee to the govt and not to owners of the land 5 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PassingShot(m): 12:45pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
santos247:What's your point here? It is the pastoral normads that have ensure self sufficiency for the country in terms of meat production since the birth of Nigeria. I am not aware about us depending on imported meat to meet our meat demands. 2. If the Fulani man has every right to graze in every part of Nigeria, i want to start pork production and i want my pigs to graze the fields in Kano, Sokoto and Katsina.. I will develop a system where my pigs will feed on fresh grass of the Kano emirate and produce good quality meat. . Dont i have that right too??You're free to establish piggery anywhere you deem fit. The biggest piggery in Nigeria used to be in the North. What's your point here? 3. Cattle production is just a bussiness venture like Poultry, pig, Fish farming etc. Every prospective farmer must acquire land from existing land systems in the respective locations and abide by every existing local laws.You're a big joke right? from time immemorial, the Nigerian cattle farmers have been known to move about with their cattle, grazing and destroying farmlands in the process. Why did all past govts fail to force them to "acquire land from existing land systems"? 4. How much tax do the CAttle rearers pay to the natonal purse from their sales of cattleSome of you are too naïve to understand that we already have the challenge with us and solutions must be proffered. Instead of being emotional about it and spewing trash, why not we suggest workable alternatives to the govt's plan rather than maintaining the hard posture that bring continued fights and destructions? If you do not support the govt plan, please tell us the realistic alternative way for govt to take these herdsmen out of the street and the farms? The answer should not be "they must buy lands from their operation locations, bla bla bla" without telling us how to ensure it happens. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Nobody: 12:46pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
mountlarry: No body is forcing u to forfiet your land. The FG has access to land across the country and i believe they have perfected plans for the allocation of lands. Dont make this look like the FG intends to demolish everyones house and convert the lands to grazing fields. The grazing area might be forests or bushes it all depends. This is a brilliant move by the FG to stop the menace of cattle rustling. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by olaitoro(m): 12:46pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
PassingShot: paying renting fee to the govt and not to owners of the land I pray that your land will be collected for cattle rearing and the rent goes to the govt....amen your hypocrisy stinks 2 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by blackmatter007: 12:46pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
joborskill: No one restricted the fulani to one location, They are free to trade anywhere in the country, you are a hateful human to compare igbo business methods with that of the fulani's. Concerning the Topic, all we are saying is the bill is outrageous, how can you seize someone's land and expect the person to collect permission from you to sue you to court? Nah it is never done anywhere. In saner Climes modern animal husbandry are practiced to improve meat and milk production but in the fulani's case, it is Different, they expect the federal Government to finance their business, How about the federal Government seizing lands in the north and building Shops, Malls and giving it out to the igbos free of charge? I will never support that crazy bill and i hope it is trashed out! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Nobody: 12:46pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
olaitoro: most of the yorubas like that are muslims,they care more about their religion than anything else. Now trending on twitter #GrazingCommissionBill 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by skyman200(m): 12:47pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
It can, t happened, we are in the south waiting for them, they are the one who will run. 2 Likes |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Nobody: 12:48pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
[s] donguutti:[/s] why not propose alternative options instead of criticizing this brilliant move? |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by PassingShot(m): 12:50pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
olaitoro:You're too dull to know that the FG has expanse of lands across the country it can use as it deems fit. the govt will not take any individual's land for this purpose. You have a very long way to go in politics and governance. Your ignorance stinks to high heavens. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why We Must All Support The Grazing Bill For The Fulani's by Nobody: 12:52pm On Apr 19, 2016 |
lanicky: since we all know the fulanis are scattered all over the country just like the igbos and every nigerian, will it not be good for the FG to create grazing fields for them to stop unnecessary confrontations between them and farmers? The cattle rearing is their business and the grazing field is a form of intervention from the FG to support them in grazing their cows. Just like the FG supports every farmers will loans and fertilizers to boost their farming. it is common sense and i supporr the grazing license too |
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