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dada01:
The problem here is, you as an individual hw would you feel if you see ur "unrepented" parent or sibling crying, suffering and languishing in hell. You will feel cool uuuhh. Hw many times have u offended your parents growing up despite repeated scolding, guess ur hands or ur eyes have been plucked out right?

For me as a human, it is not morally upright goddamit. I love my family to make them go thru pains.

Much for a "all caring and loving god"

Rubbish poem.

......dada01

Jozzy4:
see your life , instead of u to address the scripture he gave you, u are here attacking his personalty . see you

Now raise ur eyes to the bold , what do u see ? people burning their own sons and daughter in fire , same thing u accuse God of doing.

the vital point in that scripture is that God see that act as criminal , he said @ color Such as never come into my heart , if such idea never come into his heart, u begin to realize that the hellfire doctrine is of the devil. only the devil and his demons could come up with such a wicked and sadistic idea of torture.





Christ knew Jer 7:31 so well, so his teaching here never ever support the hellfire teaching

1. @ bold ... teachers of hellfire said its when people die tht they arw immediately sent to hell , BUT can you see how Jesus destroy that notion ? the harvest is the close , not when a man die.

2.see the color @ green ... Can u see Just as the weeds are burnes with fire ? hey , do weeds burn forever in fire ? thts a serious case for hellfire teaching , weeds are destroyed once and for all , and they die out of existence . Christ said the end of the wicked will be JUST AS weeds, analice eternal destruction perfetly illustrated not eternal hellfire . EXPOSED


3. this is funny,check the highlighted italics .. many think Jesua ia talkin about a pagan greek soul , but pls DO This SOUL HAVE TEETHS too ?

Jessicha:
Replay! haha jozzy4 already did that .

analice107:
Your case is hopeless.

analice107:
Unlock your dada maybe you can have space in your head to reason.
When man fell, he automatically picked up Satan's nature. Anyone with that nature is an enemy to God, and God has prepared a place to put those who hate him at the end of ages.
Just keep living your life in rebellion and die in it, at resurrection, you will stand before him, if your name is not found written in the book of life, YOU WILL BE CAST TO HELLFIRE WITH SATAN WHOSE NATURE YOU SHARE.
Hello, stay off my mention. Your reasoning is warped.

dada01:
wooah look who is reasoning straight. Intimidation of hell is what i have live with from childhood, so just bullshit that.
I dont play to galery, but i doubt you would b able to say thrash to my face as u just did if we are to meet in person, except you want that to happen!!

I will just leave u to ur faith seeing u re already an extremist, you are not any different from boko haram terrorist, atleast u exihibited most of their trait. Just f**k off my lane.
An lice.

U CAN MENTION ALL U WANT AM DONE WITH YOU

.....DADA01

dada01:
wooah look who is reasoning straight. Intimidation of hell is what i have live with from childhood, so just bullshit that.
I dont play to galery, but i doubt you would b able to say to my face as u just did uf we are to meet in person, except you want that to happen!!

I will just leave u to ur faith seeing u re already an extremist, you are not any different boko haram, atleast u exihibited most of their trait. Just f**k off my lane.
An lice.

U CAN MENTION ALL U WANT AM DONE WITH YOU

.....DADA01

analice107:
Hahahahahahahaha. I feel so threatened right now.
Guy, I was done with you before you got here. Good thing it's a faceless forum so you can throw up whatever you like. If we were to meet in person, what will you do? Lekwa.

You have lived with the fear of hellfire all your life, now you are liberated right? Then why are you here wailing? JW and atheists are in the same boat. God doesn't exist hellfire doesn't exist but you all won't rest. You guys are the ones opening up threads about God and hellfire.
You know why JW and atheists can't rest? Deep down their sunconciousness, they know the truth, but just like the Bible said in 11Corinthians 3: 3-4 But if our gospel is hid, it is hid to them that are lost.
In whom THE god OF THIS WORLD HAS BLIND THE MINDS of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God should shine unto them.

dada. If you have Satan's nature in you, repent and discard it, if not, if death meets you, after resurrection, you will be cast into hellfire where those with the same nature will be. If you like let Watchtower scream from here to heaven and back, the truth remains that, anyone whose name is not found written in the book of life, has the nature of Satan, and shall walk down to the fiery flames of fire with Satan forever and ever.

analice107:
Maybe it's me as you said, but you said if God will take the pain away from the woman, why should she worry? You didn't make any mention of what God should to the criminal. Or did you and I missed it?

You dolphinheart are clever or you think you are. Now you have added the angle of repentance. Why didn't you include it in your first post so that we could treat it together?

Listen, just like it doesn't take a criminal to kill twice before he is termed as a killer, so also it doesn't take him a lifetime to repent of his crimes.

My forgiving the criminal is something I must do, because he who says to a criminal "Thou shall not kill", also said to me "If you forgive not men their trespasses, your father who is in heaven will not forgive you your own trespasses". But this matter is not about me. Whether I forgive him or not, if he doesn't repent and dies in that state, he will stand judgement if found guilty by reason of his resisting the free gift of Christ' nature which would have empowered him to live right. Every guilty person gets sentenced.

Wait... What do you consider to be fair punishment justifiable enough for a man who is found without the nature of Christ?

You Know What? If we will not treat man's responsibility in this whole matter, then am done talking to you. All you see is hellfire, you refuse to see its a choice they make.

I don't get it at all. It's wrong for men to burn, but you don't see anything wrong with man's rebellion.

You don't see anything wrong with the fact that they reject the road that leads away from hellfire.

And I keep saying, it's not basically the theft or murder on themselves that leads men there but the satanic nature in them which propels them to commit those cries. So long as that nature is in them they are enemies to God, and God made hell for his enemies.
Why have you people not mention that nature even for once? Are you people advocating for Satan?
Am done with you sir.

analice107:
Chai JW. Pls stay off my mention.

analice107:
Unlock your dada maybe you can have space in your head to reason.
When man fell, he automatically picked up Satan's nature. Anyone with that nature is an enemy to God, and God has prepared a place to put those who hate him at the end of ages.
Just keep living your life in rebellion and die in it, at resurrection, you will stand before him, if your name is not found written in the book of life, YOU WILL BE CAST TO HELLFIRE WITH SATAN WHOSE NATURE YOU SHARE.
Hello, stay off my mention. Your reasoning is warped.

Jessicha:
empty talk.

analice107:
What really happened to you? Why are you so bitter? How did God fail you?

analice107:
What really happened to you? Why are you so bitter? How did God fail you?

urahara:
Cant someone decide to open a thread to have a discussion without it getting so emotional and infantile

analice107:
I asked you a question boy. What's emotional and infantile in the question I asked you?
Your bitterness against God stems from what or where?
Is it personal or generic? Are you fighting Satan's battle?
He who kicks against the brigs will end up featuring his ankles. I can't tell you to stop, I don't have what it takes to do that. Just do what you have to.

cloudgoddess:
And not once throughout your life have you considered other ways she could have effectively taught you that lesson? Burning you and potentially causing serious irritation to delicate body tissues, was necessary for you to learn to respect peoples' things? Your mother was abusive and probably borderline psychotic, and you rejoice for it. This clarifies so much about your way of thinking. You've been desensitized to abuse, so understandably your sense of justice is skewed and inhumane.

And on top of that, this analogy is still lacking because it does not even remotely reflect the hell situation in severity or implication. A more equal comparison would be, instead of putting pepper in your eyes and anus ( ), your mother splashing petrol on your eyes and anus, lighting them on fire, and repeating this process for literal infinity, with no chance of you returning to a state of non-suffering. Repeated pain and torture for the rest of existence, far longer than any human lifespan. Eternal punishment for a finite crime.

dorox:
The belief that God will punish unrepentant sinners in hellfire for eternity is a doctrine that is held among people of diverse religions and across various sects of the same religion. I would like for us to discuss the morality of this belief and see if we can come to any moral justification of eternal torture. Inorder words can a suitable contextual framework be found that justifies the evil of hell? For example killing another human being is evil but if the killing is framed in the context of defending one' s family from marauding bandits, then a case can be made that the love for family and the duty to protect that love justifies the use of evil in that particular situation.

Since the reason for opening this thread is to discuss the morality of hell and to see if it is compatible with the notion of God, any scriptures can be quoted from whichever religion one subsribes to including viewpoints from oral African religions are welcomed. It is assumed for the purpose of this discussion that hell is real, so it will be pointless and a waste of space to quote scriptures in support of the proposition that hell is real.
What our argument and scriptures (for those who chose to quote one) should attempt to do is make a case that justifies hellfire as morally right and compatible with the attributes of God, or morally wrong and incompatible with the attributes of God.

analice107:
On this note, am incline to think that JW are subtle and undercover Atheists.

Evangkatsoulis:
If God is the ultimate moral arbiter, you can't talk about moral his actions are. That means hellfire can be assigned to be good by God.