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Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by enlightenedmind: 4:28pm On Apr 24, 2016
christopher123:
I am not talking from political context ...you have written all you have done but you still have not answer the basic question ? Why is African violet and why is Nigeria treating and putting fears in Igbo for wanting out ..that is the question and do you realise that Igbo populations is bigger than many EU countries like Luxembourg, Finland etc..we are talking of Igbo nation that has upto 36 million

The question is why don't Igbo excessively perform their foundermental freedom of association ?
What will Nigeria loose or gain if Igbo leave?
Why are Nigeria scared of Igbo leaving ?


These are questions and I uses EU as a case study or example

Pls answer me
One is that freedom of association has nothing to do with Seceding a sovereign state. No one group or state has the right to do that. All Nigerians must have a referendum because this decision affects all Nigerians not just biafrans. Why Nigerians are really skeptical about voting the biafra is not because of oil or whatever. It is simply Nigerians see that the whole Biafra thing will not benefit the common Igbo man who has no political, social or financial interests in all these. It will further oppress them.
Secondly, at least more than half of Igbo people say that there is a problem in our constitution and system of govt that marginalizes some groups, not just igbos [MIDDLE-BELTANS] Have never been president too but the answer is not Biafra. Biafra is seeking ethnically clean groups, that is not possible in modern society. They say they do not want Biafra but are not happy with the current way the system is run.

That means the problem is with the constitution not tribal. Igbos forget that there are many groups maginalized here. Many, thanks to the corruption of our politicians. We must fight and eradicate corruption across all states from igbo to hausa, chriatain to muslim before we can begin to decide if we split. If there is corruption, and we split, i feel sorry for those who will find themselves in biafra. The will be looted dry.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 4:29pm On Apr 24, 2016
georgen2u:
If U we're a woman I would had made U m you my babe. Imagine the matured epic response to a hater of progress... keep it up man
Thanks

I just wanted an intellectual discourse but it seems that it is not forth coming

So I am giving up...as it stands now. I am yet to see anybody give me an intelligent answer or cogent response

All I have been seeing is emotional response no logical response

I need an intellectual engagement ..but i t seems it's a scarce commodity here
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 4:37pm On Apr 24, 2016
enlightenedmind:
One is that freedom of association has nothing to do with Seceding a sovereign state. No one group or state has the right to do that. All Nigerians must have a referendum because this decision affects all Nigerians not just biafrans. Why Nigerians are really skeptical about voting the biafra is not because of oil or whatever. It is simply Nigerians see that the whole Biafra thing will not benefit the common Igbo man who has no political, social or financial interests in all these. It will further oppress them.
Secondly, at least more than half of Igbo people say that there is a problem in our constitution and system of govt that marginalizes some groups, not just igbos [MIDDLE-BELTANS] Have never been president too but the answer is not Biafra. Biafra is seeking ethnically clean groups, that is not possible in modern society. They say they do not want Biafra but are not happy with the current way the system is run.

That means the problem is with the constitution not tribal. Igbos forget that there are many groups maginalized here. Many, thanks to the corruption of our politicians. We must fight and eradicate corruption across all states from igbo to hausa, chriatain to muslim before we can begin to decide if we split. If there is corruption, and we split, i feel sorry for those who will find themselves in biafra. The will be looted dry.
Now this is the better response ...not all groups will want referendum. We can't lump everybody up. If a particular section wants referendum why don't give it to them? Some people are very okay with Nigeria some people are not okay with Nigeria

So conducting referendum to all will be tantamount to waste of resources ,time and energy.


The whole EU won't conduct a referendum it's only Britain so it is and that has been the global standard practise . the same way it way done in Ireland the same way it was done in Catalonia we can't always do the wrong thing in Nigeria. This is one of the reasons Igbo want out. Nigeria keeps doing the wrong thing for obvious reason

Referendum is done in affected places not on generality.. This is the global best practise
From the look of things , igbo are not going or wants to go because of marginalisation ..I don't think so.Igbo to me wants to leave so that they can chart their own course and find their own destiny . TO ME THAT IS NOT A BAD THING to ask

Just like when a wife wants out you tell your in-laws to go for a referendum . this is exactly what you have opined

The whole EU isn't going for a referendum but only Brits not even the Scots

That's is the best global practise

As you can see your argument and postulation doesn't hold water

I ask again

Why is Nigeria not comfortable with Igbo leaving or staying?
What will Nigeria loose if Igbo stays or go?

I really need to get answers here pls
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 4:59pm On Apr 24, 2016
enlightenedmind:
I am really tired of this Biafra posts that absolutely miss the point. Fisrtly OP, u comparing Nigeria and the Igbos to Britain and the EU is unfounded and not even valid. The EU is a group of COUNTRIES formed to facilitate free trade and movement of labour within countries. Each country exist as a sovereign state within the EU. This also means that immigrants to any of these European countries have access to all EU countries. Different countries have different immigration rules and are not comfortable with that. Given that Britain lives on a welfare system, it is of utmost importance they control immigration. That is why Britain is leaving the EU. Not because they are enslaved.

Secondly, Britain is a country not a section of a country. The EU is not a country. The EU is exactly the same as the OAU, AU, UN. Any country can leave if they feel the rules are no more convenient. By The way, scotland has been wanting to leave the UK for decades now. But they cannot. A specific part of a country cannot just decide that it wants to leave. You saying that BRITAIN IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD BCOZ THEY VOTED TO LEAVE THE EU IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT IN THIS CONTEST. When Britain lets scotland go, then u can make that argument.


The current constitution is written to reflect all resources, needs, players of all sections of the country. Any part leaving is denying everybody else in the country their fundamental rights of association by birth. The matter of seceding must be planned in a gradual process. there are others in this country too u know. an cutting any part of nigeria away is like saying "the rest of u can die, we do not care".

And also pitching this problem as a religious divide is a new low. The corruption in nigeria has nothing to do with religion and tribe. Even if u go to Biafra I can assure u that nothing will come out of it. Because u guys brought up the concept of Biafra to solve a problem that does not exist. You have failed to identify the problem and this pride and hatred may lead to unfounded events that does not benefit the people but satisfies personal political interests.
The problem I have with people is that they believe in resources ! Oh you meant oil right ? Have you heard of the term Dutch disease ? Pls look it up in dictionary . it is the effects of over dependency on oil and that is what we have been offering

What develops a country isnt resources because if it were resources African would have been developed all these years and Japan and Korea with no resources be poor but the reverse is the case

The best resources a country can get is brain and human resources... We just can't refine common crude and Igbo ja not even keen on taking the resources ...I felt that they want to have their destinies in their hands and not be lumped together with people that have different ideologies

Ideologies is what makes a nation
America believe in liberty
Russia believe on communism
China people in people communism
Angola believe in a Christian economy
Saudi believe in Arab emancipation and economy
Biafra believe in freedom and optimism ...that has been demonstrated

What is this country's ideology

We have to be honest here ....

Nigeria regions have different ideology ..some believe in self advancement while some believe that enaything Western education is totally bad.

Now how can these entities work together ?
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HammerTheirPapa(f): 5:02pm On Apr 24, 2016
gidgiddy:
A lot of Nigerians, particularly those outside the SS/SE zones, tend to forget that Nigeria is just an artificial creation of the White man. It is really funny when some Nigerians talk about the Holliness of 'one Nigeria' forgetting that Nigeria is just a mere 'British product'. Less than 200 years ago, the three major tribes of what later became Nigeria where self governing. The Hausa/Fulani had their Emirate of Sokoto. The Yorubas had their Oyo Empire. The Igbos where a loose confederation of clans with their allegiance to the ancient Nri Kingdom. The White Man came and said we 'one Nigeria' and since then till today we have been at each other's throats. We have already slaughtered each other in the millions for the sake of Lord Lugard. I'm an Igbo man and no matter what anyone says or does, I will never forget my God given right to decide for myself if I want to be Nigetian or not. Aimless followers of Lord Lugard can carry on.
Even our hero Awolowo called nigeria a geographic expression. Why we yorubas want to die to maintain this geographic expression is I can not understand, can't we use a fraction of our commonsense as yorubas?
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HiddenShadow: 5:07pm On Apr 24, 2016
christopher123:
OK let's assume whatever because in Igbo land there is a saying that it's good to assume that whatever bite you in night is mosquito ..in another word it is saying that ignorance is bliss

I for one didn't vote and have never voted cos vote don't count here in Nigeria and I stand to be corrected

Let's take the Igbo population is 4 million at least they are still bigger than Swaziland and other countries like St Kitts and Nevis

The question is why don't Nigeria have dialogue ?
Why do African prefer the crude and violent way to do things ?
Why do black man prefer violence than dialogue ?

Is freedom of association a luxury in Africa ?

Even cats love staying with cats
The whites have built their society based on Christian teachings.

Other Races especially Africans are still governed by the teachings of paganism and islamism

When you compare the teachings propagated by these religions, you will understand why some tribes in Africa are wild and evil while others are gentle and good
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HammerTheirPapa(f): 5:09pm On Apr 24, 2016
enlightenedmind:
I am really tired of this Biafra posts that absolutely miss the point. Fisrtly OP, u comparing Nigeria and the Igbos to Britain and the EU is unfounded and not even valid. The EU is a group of COUNTRIES formed to facilitate free trade and movement of labour within countries. Each country exist as a soverign state within the EU. This also means that immigrants to any of these European countries have access to all EU countries. Different countries have different immigration rules and are not comfortable with that. Given that Britain lives on a welfare system, it is of utmost importance they control immigration. That is why Britain is leaving the EU. Not because they are enslaved.

Secondly, Britain is a country not a section of a country. The EU is not a country. The EU is exactly the same as the OAU, AU, UN. Any country can leave if they feel the rules are no more convenient. By The way, scotland has been wanting to leave the UK for decades now. But they cannot. A specific part of a country cannot just decide that it wants to leave. You saying that BRITAIN IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD BCOZ THEY VOTED TO LEAVE THE EU IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT IN THIS CONTEST. When Britain lets scotland go, then u can make that argument.


The current constitution is written to reflect all resources, needs, players of all sections of the country. Any part leaving is denying everybody else in the country their fundamental rights of association by birth. The matter of seceding must be planned in a gradual process. there are others in this country too u know. an cutting any part of nigeria away is like saying "the rest of u can die, we do not care".

And also pitching this problem as a religious divide is a new low. The corruption in nigeria has nothing to do with religion and tribe. Even if u go to Biafra I can assure u that nothing will come out of it. Because u guys brought up the concept of Biafra to solve a problem that does not exist. You have failed to identify the problem and this pride and hatred may lead to unfounded events that does not benefit the people but satisfies personal political interests.
Wetin this one dey yarn? Why can't you stay in a different country from Easterners, You've made more than 100 posts on Biafra but you have not answered this simple question. Answer the Common sense question.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 5:15pm On Apr 24, 2016
HiddenShadow:
The whites have built their society based on Christian teachings.

Other Races especially Africans are still governed by the teachings of paganism and islamism

When you compare the teachings propagated by these religions, you will understand why some tribes in Africa are wild and evil while others are gentle and good
A better answer and I believe that at some point the whites were pegans . I could remember the dark ages.

Maybe that's why Igbo want out becuase thye have evolved from pegan PR heathen to 99.99 % of them as Christian maybe they want to build their society and country based on Christian principle without any undue interference

Maybe Biafra will be the poster card for African development

Maybe Biafra concept will re draw the map that European cartographers did in Europe like 300 years ago without any consultation to Africa

I think it will be nice to see how African go about this Biafra thing

Will it be their normal violent nature
Will they toe the civilisation


What is the fear of Biafra ?
What will Nigeria loose ?
I think Africa will gain more in terms of respect from global powers and also integrity

What's your take ?
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 5:17pm On Apr 24, 2016
HammerTheirPapa:
Wetin this one dey yarn? Why can't you stay in a different country from Easterners, You've made more than 100 posts on Biafra but you have not answered this simple question. Answer the Common sense question.
Uptill now I have not been able to get any cogent answer


I give up
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HiddenShadow: 5:28pm On Apr 24, 2016
christopher123:
A better answer and I believe that at some point the whites were pegans . I could remember the dark ages.

Maybe that's why Igbo want out becuase thye have evolved from pegan PR heathen to 99.99 % of them as Christian maybe they want to build their society and country based on Christian principle without any undue interference

Maybe Biafra will be the poster card for African development

Maybe Biafra concept will re draw the map that European cartographers did in Europe like 300 years ago without any consultation to Africa

I think it will be nice to see how African go about this Biafra thing

Will it be their normal violent nature
Will they toe the civilisation


What is the fear of Biafra ?
What will Nigeria loose ?
I think Africa will gain more in terms of respect from global powers and also integrity

What's your take ?
Even Satan knows that Biafra will threaten his Kingdom as they become exemplary case study for Africans to copy

The simple truth most Igbos don't know is that their total embracement of Christianity has stirred up Hell against them.

The struggle for freedom must not be fought physically only but also Spiritually especially in the place of prayer.

My question to you is

How often do you pray for freedom and encourage others to pray.? Daily Weekly Monthly Yearly or Never
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HammerTheirPapa(f):
christopher123:
Personally I think we have to learn from our colonial masters on how to behave and civilisation.

The African man is backward ..very backward

In Europe there are tribes and ethnicities but these tribes are mostly formed in nations not lumped together
Slavs in Slovakia
Saxons in England
Norrs in Scandinavian
Bavarians in Germany
Dutch's in Holland
Irish in Ireland
Scots in Scotland
Francs in France and Belgium
Romas in Romania
Iberians in Portugal and Spain
Catalonia wanting their own countries and having referendum

But in Africa Tutsi killing hutsi
Fulani rampaging everywhere
Central African Republican is a war Republican
South Sudan and Sudan we saw it
So many examples

Why is it not like this in Europe
Why is the killing not like this in south east Asia
Why don't the latin America kill each other because of tribes


We have to understand this ...to me I think if we have to die staying alone it's better to live staying apart and be friends

I am for peace I hate war
Very succint!

"I AM GOING TO OPPRESS YOU AND YOU MUST NOT LEAVE THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE I HAVE GUNS TO KILL YOU".

The above statement capture the Unevolved African man's (beast) mentality whenever he acquires power. The fulani case is even worse because they also practice a religion that is intolerant of dissenting views and allows them to 'oppress the kaffurs'. So it is double wahala-AFriCan+Muslim.

The next war won't be fought as it was in 1967 as the world now have the facts. It is much difficult to sell propaganda in this information age as the Brits did for them in 1967. I doubt if Brits won't want to be seen as helping Muslim Fulani to kill Christian Biafrans.
Whatever happens fulanis won't get the kind of support they got in 1967-70, and if they don't embrace peace and settle this Biafran problem by dragging their region out of nigeria and ban the internet there to maintain feudal control, their loss in loss in the next war may be costly for them. They might have to go back to foutta djallon to survive because even some hausas are waking up.

Soon tables will turn as it has always done in the history of every country. 1000 year old empires have been brought down in history when their rulers thought they will last forever. The fulanis should learn, they can't have it all.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 5:35pm On Apr 24, 2016
HammerTheirPapa:
Very succint!

"I AM GOING TO OPPRESS YOU AND YOU MUST NOT LEAVE THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE I HAVE GUNS TO KILL YOU".

The above statement capture the Unevolved African man's (beast) mentality whenever he acquires power. The fulani case is even worse because they also practice a religion that is intolerant of dissenting views and allows them to 'oppress the kaffurs'. So it is double wahala-AFriCan+Muslim.

The next war won't be fought as it was in 1967 as the world now have the facts. It is much difficult to sell propaganda in this information age as the Brits did for them in 1967. I doubt if Brits will want to see as helping Muslim Fulani to kill Christian Biafrans.
Whatever happens fulanis won't get the kind of support they got in 1967-70, and if they don't embrace peace and settle this Biafran problem by dragging their region out of nigeria and ban the internet there to maintain feudal control, their loss in loss in the next war may be costly for them. They might have to go back to foutta djallon to survive because even some hausas are waking up.

Soon tables will turn as it has always done in the history of every country. 1000 year old empires have brought down in history when their rulers thought they will last forever.
Lol

I will beg you for two things
1 pls don't shoot me
2 pls don't fight war


I believe in dialogue ..lol
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 5:38pm On Apr 24, 2016
HiddenShadow:
Even Satan knows that Biafra will threaten his Kingdom as they become exemplary case study for Africans to copy

The simple truth most Igbos don't know is that their total embracement of Christianity has stirred up Hell against them.

The struggle for freedom must not be fought physically only but also Spiritually especially in the place of prayer.

My question to you is

How often do you pray for freedom and encourage others to pray.? Daily Weekly Monthly Yearly or Never
Well it's good to believe in miracles and also believe in empirical

I still don't get it why African are violent and why Nigeria keep t
Saying Biafra will be bloody ....must everything be bloody in our sights as African

Can we dialogue
Just wondering
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HiddenShadow: 5:38pm On Apr 24, 2016
HammerTheirPapa:
Very succint!

"I AM GOING TO OPPRESS YOU AND YOU MUST NOT LEAVE THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE I HAVE GUNS TO KILL YOU".

The above statement capture the Unevolved African man's (beast) mentality whenever he acquires power. The fulani case is even worse because they also practice a religion that is intolerant of dissenting views and allows them to 'oppress the kaffurs'. So it is double wahala-AFriCan+Muslim.

The next war won't be fought as it was in 1967 as the world now have the facts. It is much difficult to sell propaganda in this information age as the Brits did for them in 1967. I doubt if Brits will want to see as helping Muslim Fulani to kill Christian Biafrans.
Whatever happens fulanis won't get the kind of support they got in 1967-70, and if they don't embrace peace and settle this Biafran problem by dragging their region out of nigeria and ban the internet there to maintain feudal control, their loss in loss in the next war may be costly for them. They might have to go back to foutta djallon to survive because even some hausas are waking up.

Soon tables will turn as it has always done in the history of every country. 1000 year old empires have brought down in history when their rulers thought they will last forever.
Superbly presented.

Truth will always surface no matter how long it is buried with falsehood
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HiddenShadow: 5:40pm On Apr 24, 2016
christopher123:
Well it's good to believe in miracles and also believe in empirical

I still don't get it why African are violent and why Nigeria keep t
Saying Biafra will be bloody ....must everything be bloody in our sights as African

Can we dialogue
Just wondering
Check the spirits behind Nigerians.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 5:42pm On Apr 24, 2016
HiddenShadow:
Check the spirits behind Nigerians.
Well I lack the capacity to do such ...I tackle things from physical and logical views

Spirituality is sureal and I don't want to dabble into that
Lol
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by Bitterleafsoup: 5:43pm On Apr 24, 2016
christopher123:
Now this is the better response ...not all groups will want referendum. We can't lump everybody up. If a particular section wants referendum why don't give it to them? Some people are very okay with Nigeria some people are not okay with Nigeria

So conducting referendum to all will be tantamount to waste of resources ,time and energy.


The whole EU won't conduct a referendum it's only Britain so it is and that has been the global standard practise . the same way it way done in Ireland the same way it was done in Catalonia we can't always do the wrong thing in Nigeria. This is one of the reasons Igbo want out. Nigeria keeps doing the wrong thing for obvious reason

Referendum is done in affected places not on generality.. This is the global best practise
From the look of things , igbo are not going or wants to go because of marginalisation ..I don't think so.Igbo to me wants to leave so that they can chart their own course and find their own destiny . TO ME THAT IS NOT A BAD THING to ask

Just like when a wife wants out you tell your in-laws to go for a referendum . this is exactly what you have opined

The whole EU isn't going for a referendum but only Brits not even the Scots

That's is the best global practise

As you can see your argument and postulation doesn't hold water

I ask again

Why is Nigeria not comfortable with Igbo leaving or staying?
What will Nigeria loose if Igbo stays or go?

I really need to get answers here pls
Good luck on that intelligent answer. But to me it is the crab in the barrel attitude that a high percent of black people are inflicted with.
The fear that Igbos will excel as Biafra is why they will not let them go. If they must suffer let us all suffer as 1.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HammerTheirPapa(f): 5:46pm On Apr 24, 2016
enlightenedmind:
One is that freedom of association has nothing to do with Seceding a sovereign state. No one group or state has the right to do that. All Nigerians must have a referendum because this decision affects all Nigerians not just biafrans. Why Nigerians are really skeptical about voting the biafra is not because of oil or whatever. It is simply Nigerians see that the whole Biafra thing will not benefit the common Igbo man who has no political, social or financial interests in all these. It will further oppress them.
Secondly, at least more than half of Igbo people say that there is a problem in our constitution and system of govt that marginalizes some groups, not just igbos [MIDDLE-BELTANS] Have never been president too but the answer is not Biafra. Biafra is seeking ethnically clean groups, that is not possible in modern society. They say they do not want Biafra but are not happy with the current way the system is run.

That means the problem is with the constitution not tribal. Igbos forget that there are many groups maginalized here. Many, thanks to the corruption of our politicians. We must fight and eradicate corruption across all states from igbo to hausa, chriatain to muslim before we can begin to decide if we split. If there is corruption, and we split, i feel sorry for those who will find themselves in biafra. The will be looted dry.
Guy you are talking trash if you really want us to believe that fulani and yorubas hates Biafra because they love the Igbo man and want him to benefit in nigeria.

Please do you roll some shiit into your marijuana before smoking? grin

Hear yourself talk- You hate Biafra and shoot their unarmed protesters because you love the East?

Christopher123, MagicBishop, Devilisalai, isn't this the most hilarious shiit you've ever heard? grin grin grin grin
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by HiddenShadow: 5:49pm On Apr 24, 2016
HammerTheirPapa:
Guy you are talking trash if you really want us to believe that fulani and yorubas hates Biafra because they love the Igbo man and want him to benefit in nigeria.

Please do you roll some shiit into your marijuana before smoking? grin

Hear yourself talk- You hate Biafra and shoot their unarmed protesters because you love the East?

Christopher123, MagicBishop, Devilisalai, isn't this the most hilarious shiit you've ever heard? grin grin grin grin
We call that orientation DELUSIONAL/HYPOCRISY
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by Ariani: 5:50pm On Apr 24, 2016
"if-I'm-not-sure-I'll-make-it-alone-then-Let-us-all-stick-together-and-see-if-we-could-make-it-together-in-a-jealous-tribalistic-wicked-painful-way mentality. "

The above sums up the disposition of western and Northern Nigerians to the East quest for independence.

You don't blame the UK, no sane person want to be glued in whatever form to people who are only but liabilities to you.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by Emancipation: 5:56pm On Apr 24, 2016
Christopher, thank you for such a wonderful thread.

I have have opened threads in the past where I asked direct simple questions like you are doing and all "One nigerianists" do is that they "Peep and Run". Even when they decide to respond, their reponse is full of accusations and insult and has nothing to do with the question you asked.

The problem with "one Nigerianists" is that they know that IPOB and Biafrans are constantly providing rational, empirical, and superior points on the need to separate. If it wasnt coming from biafrans, they will agree with it 100% because it just makes sense.

But fear of an uncertain future in Nigeria and blind hatred makes them (one nigerianist) support something that is not working.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 6:04pm On Apr 24, 2016
Bitterleafsoup:
Good luck on that intelligent answer. But to me it is the crab in the barrel attitude that a high percent of black people are inflicted with.
The fear that Igbos will excel as Biafra is why they will not let them go. If they must suffer let us all suffer as 1.
Thats a new angle ...I will look at it from that angle
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 6:06pm On Apr 24, 2016
Emancipation:
Christopher, thank you for such a wonderful thread.

I have have opened threads in the past where I asked direct simple questions like you are doing and all "One nigerianists" do is that they "Peep and Run". Even when they decide to respond, their reponse is full of accusations and insult and has nothing to do with the question you asked.

The problem with "one Nigerianists" is that they know that IPOB and Biafrans are constantly providing rational, empirical, and superior points on the need to separate. If it wasnt coming from biafrans, they will agree with it 100% because it just makes sense.

But fear of an uncertain future in Nigeria and blind hatred makes them (one nigerianist) support something that is not working.
I so much believe in getting intelligent answers but I am still waiting for that answer and I am not seeing it
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by BiafranJesus: 6:12pm On Apr 24, 2016
Poster,

You have raised a very good discussion topic. It is very sad that Nigerians have a spirit of intolerance and poor intellect. People who hold contraty views to you would rather insult you rather than counter your point with intelligent arguments.

The thing is simple. Call it an 'African Mentality'. Nigerians are fully aware of the prospects that the Igbos (and other non-Igbo speaking Biafrans) have and are clearly scared of letting them go.

You see so much hatred when the word 'Biafra' is mentioned. It is a clear sign that the word 'Biafra' causes so much discomfort for some people.

Please keep up the spirit. There are many of us who strongly believe in the rights of people of a common value system to be together.

Biafra and the Islamic Value system of the North and some parts of Yoruba Land is not compatible with Biafra.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by BiafranJesus: 6:15pm On Apr 24, 2016
Emancipation:
Christopher, thank you for such a wonderful thread.

I have have opened threads in the past where I asked direct simple questions like you are doing and all "One nigerianists" do is that they "Peep and Run". Even when they decide to respond, their reponse is full of accusations and insult and has nothing to do with the question you asked.

The problem with "one Nigerianists" is that they know that IPOB and Biafrans are constantly providing rational, empirical, and superior points on the need to separate. If it wasnt coming from biafrans, they will agree with it 100% because it just makes sense.

But fear of an uncertain future in Nigeria and blind hatred makes them (one nigerianist) support something that is not working.
Nigerians will never give you a reasonable answer. They are very scared of the word 'Biafra'.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by Emancipation: 6:23pm On Apr 24, 2016
A poster on Nairaland once said " The truth is equivalent to death sentence in Nigeria". Nigerians hate the truth and are willing to kill you for it. But as dearpreye once said " Nigeria has a date with the truth", I am confident that in time delayed destiny shall manifest.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by killsmith(f): 6:31pm On Apr 24, 2016
Watch them avoid this thread like a plague....
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by joseph1832(m): 6:32pm On Apr 24, 2016
christopher123:
Nairaland says no to Biafra
Nigerians say no to Biafra
Christian East and Niger Delta says yes
How did you know christian East and Niger Delta said yes to biafra? Did you conduct an opinion poll? And if you did, can you kindly share so we can learn?.

The question is why are we having nightmare ? Why are we making people to feel Igbo are special ? I am just asking these questions because I am a bit confused and I need clarification on why Nigerians and so many people are scared of Igbo leaving . me personally I am indifferent and I don't care if Biafra comes or not . if it comes fine by me and I will be happy not as an Igbo but as a Christian that wants sanity but if it doesn't come ..well what can I do? But I pray for the former than the later
Once again, how did you know Nigerians are scared of igbo living Nigeria? Was an opinion poll conducted by you to arrive at this conclusion?

I am writing this because I was watching BBC news and the British have seen that EU membership is not benefiting them and they want out. The Britain are voting to leave Europe union not that they are special but they want to chart their own course and find their path. They have realised that membership of EU has never benefited them and they can't understand why they should be subsidising inept European countries like Greece , Macedonia, Eastern Europe countries with tons of bailout . Britain have never been particularly about EU membership... They never endorsed Euro as a currency and they never took them serious. The only country that is interested in European union seems to be Germany ..they bank roll the expenses of those country that are inept
Do you know the difference between a federation and a con-federation? Is the E.U a federal entity like Nigeria or the U.S.A?. For the fact that you compared a Union of States to a State shows you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

What is this telling us...it is a lesson to black man..it has to show us that Europe is far far ahead of us..they are light years and they understand the freedom of association and right to determine their fates. Nobody is treating and threatening British government with wars and annihilation. Obama was in UK to say happy birthday to queen but used the same time to beg Brits to stay and he subtly threatened them...they called him bluff..James Cameron was so apt and point

The will vote,the Brits will vote on a referendum so to settle this European membership once and for all.
Once again. The Brits operate their country as a single entity, tell me, why do you think the Brits don't use The Euro?


Here in Nigeria what do we get? Savegry, killing threats and whatsoever.. We have to respect and understand the concept of sanctity of life .

I hate violence and I think that the world is watching us in whatever we are doing ..life is sacrosanct ..I think feds should call IPOB for a round table

This is a call for us to show the world that the black race has evolved and we are civilised . we can't continue living and killing ourselves we have to find love and bileteral agreement and relationship . we have to be united be you Ghana , Nigerian ,Biafra, Ethiopian etc


We can at least have an intellectual debate here why we can't and why we should ...

Happy Sunday
God be with us
If you want a referendum, you can conduct one yourself, or perhaps you can find a way to muster the courage and get the collective opinions from Igbos all over the country and draw your conclusion.

There are ways in which Igbos can achieve their Biafra, but violence and blocking of roads isn't one of them.

The ball is in the court of the Igbos to sit down as a unit of people and decide what they want.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by BiafranJesus: 6:38pm On Apr 24, 2016
There is currently a jihad in Nigeria. It is not just a violent jihad (Boko Haram + Fulani Herdsmen) but also a media jihad (Nairaland, social media and other paid posters spreading the evil plan).

The onslaught is incredible but people need to stand strong.
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by 90xtr3r: 6:42pm On Apr 24, 2016
joseph1832:
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If you want a referendum, you can conduct one yourself, or perhaps you can find a way to muster the courage and get the collective opinions from Igbos all over the country and draw your conclusion.

There are ways in which Igbos can achieve their Biafra, but violence and blocking of roads isn't one of them.

The ball is in the court of the Igbos to sit down as a unit of people and decide what they want.
Here and now, can you substantiate your silly allegation of linking IPOB with violence?

What other way of gathering the opinions of Igbos is better than what IPOB is doing - sending terrible tremors down the spines of enemies of progress who have chosen to slay peaceful protesters?

Since you've chosen to reduce the crust of the matter to blocking of roads, can you show how you and your elites have countered the continued blocking of highways and slaughtering of villagers by Fulani herdsmen for decades now?

Your lies and hypocrisy against Igbos are DOA.
A person whose people are barely existing cannot dictate to another how to live. Moreover, such referendum is usually carried out and supervised by UN.

So far in all these years of its existence IPOB has conducted its affairs including protests peacefully including seeking the necessary international recognition and process for self-determination.

https://www.nairaland.com/2780954/biafra-oeas-demands-snap-referendum
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by KBEST3(m): 6:43pm On Apr 24, 2016
CAPITAL NO TO BIAFROUD
Re: British,Biafra,Igbo And The Same Stories Of Memberships. Nigeria Lesson by christopher123(op): 6:46pm On Apr 24, 2016
KBEST3:
CAPITAL NO TO BIAFROUD
NIce postulation....

But why ....give us reason
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