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Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by Nobody: 8:42pm On Apr 26, 2016
Arise01:
.....thats not your business, it's unfortunate that u can nt open ur stinking mouth withut mentioning Tinubu.shame!
Edioot.. Must u quote me with ur leprosy infected finger? Gerrahere mehn!

Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by 50pseamer(m):
mapet:
Nope, I see a lot of misrepresentations in his statements. Check,

1.it costs above 1 million naira...... - You can't just generalise. If he's talking about Lekki or other prime areas, maybe. If he's taking about Gbagada, Anthony, Ogudu, then hell no! That is false.

2....even some people that manage to apply dont get it in 3 years. Mine cycle out in 4-5months. Lagos State states that the official cycle time is 90days. This has been in operation for over 15years.

3. if i buy a land to even start the process I have to pay 300k as tax even as i dont live in Nigeria, and i will pay the same for the seller aswell plus other charges...Do you really believe this statement? What land do you buy in Lagos that requires flat taxation to both government and seller?

Meanwhile, if you read my reply to him very well, you should have seen through what I was trying to tell him, but obviously since I need to "spell" it, now this is - That the guy lives abroad, and he's been given a totally incorrect picture of how thing works.

Also that he lives abroad and pays tax abroad is irrelevant. Nigerians who own properties in the US and lives in Nigeria do pay taxes on those properties. In Lagos State land Use Charge is statutory and backed by law. Will he have a property and in use and not pay tax because he lives abroad?
my Friend , I am not as ignorant as you think, the component of the cost that is dependent on the location of the land varies, but the tax stuff is a major component of the total cost, if the seller does not have 3 years tax clearance, and the buyer does not have too you are talking of almost six hundred thousand already, if you say i must pay tax on my property i agree, but why should i pay a flat rate for income tax when i am not deriving any benefit from government and also pay my tax already abroad where i live. another issue is the building permit , it also costs alot of money, i heard the governor was threatning criminal proceeding against people whoever violates the law, a more reasonable aproach will be to make c of o , Governors consent and so on easier and very cheap first before looking for criminals, government should not victimise and ,milk its citizens dry on housing or discourage poor people from building.
the difference in the cost of Governors consent and C of O is not much it is also approaching 1 million and over in some cases. and without this consent u are not supposed to build on a land youve bought. It is all a fraud and very soon Nigerians will get wiser and they will understand. i dont know which country punishes the poor like Nigeria, and Lagos is laying a very bad foundation when it comes to land and property administration. The Land use charge is normal and can be collected, but people should be encouraged to build because in saner climes , if you dont have a Job it is your government's responsibility to build and accomodate you, or pay a Landlord to accomodate you. people are doing Government's work for them. while our leaders spend the money on luxury driving heavy cars and living large.
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by ALAYORMII: 10:52pm On Apr 26, 2016
investnotspend:
Always read the full story don't just read headlines and come and be yarning rubbish here
remove ur head from ur stinking anus, we're in naija
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by hectorswag(m): 4:09am On Apr 27, 2016
CFCman:
The bridge will cost no less $1.4bn too.

LASG are going about this project the right way by duly compensating the owners of the affected structures. With the completion of this bridge, and the light-rail system, the present massive traffic gridlock will be greatly reduced.

Below is a render of the bridge.

Wow! This is really awesome if successfully implemented.
cheesy
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by mapet: 7:30am On Apr 27, 2016
50pseamer:
my Friend , I am not as ignorant as you think, the component of the cost that is dependent on the location of the land varies, but the tax stuff is a major component of the total cost, if the seller does not have 3 years tax clearance, and the buyer does not have too you are talking of almost six hundred thousand already, if you say i must pay tax on my property i agree, but why should i pay a flat rate for income tax when i am not deriving any benefit from government and also pay my tax already abroad where i live. another issue is the building permit , it also costs alot of money, i heard the governor was threatning criminal proceeding against people whoever violates the law, a more reasonable aproach will be to make c of o , Governors consent and so on easier and very cheap first before looking for criminals, government should not victimise and ,milk its citizens dry on housing or discourage poor people from building.
the difference in the cost of Governors consent and C of O is not much it is also approaching 1 million and over in some cases. and without this consent u are not supposed to build on a land youve bought. It is all a fraud and very soon Nigerians will get wiser and they will understand. i dont know which country punishes the poor like Nigeria, and Lagos is laying a very bad foundation when it comes to land and property administration. The Land use charge is normal and can be collected, but people should be encouraged to build because in saner climes , if you dont have a Job it is your government's responsibility to build and accomodate you, or pay a Landlord to accomodate you. people are doing Government's work for them. while our leaders spend the money on luxury driving heavy cars and living large.
Bros,

Thanks for the clarification.

I think the issue with your situation is unfortunate. Why do I say so. The first problem is that you bought your land from a non-tax paying citizen (I had initially thought you implied it was a flat tax). It is unfortunate in that, at the point of registration, the government will require the tax clearance/card/details from both the seller and the buyer. This is applied to make sure that citizens fulfil their civic duties. The problem is that most citizens in Lagos don't pay tax. Unfortunately I think there is an option of a penalty, which people opt to pay to avoid delay of the processing, hence the situation in your case (I will imagine). It is not compulsory. If you have known ahead and can insist, you could have ascertained if your seller had tax card or clearance, if not net, out the difference depending on how the negotiation swings.

Also, I think you should see someone in Ministry of Lands (I could refer you) wrt the fact that you don't live in the country and as such do not have tax card. I imagine the person helping you with the process chose the 300k option (which may likely be the penalty of non-compliance with tax payment) to speed up the process.

Other things you expressed here are personal perspectives. That the charges are exorbitant are relative, the point is that these are statutory and backed by law. That they may still be cumbersome is an argument I agree with. I believe there should be a one-stop desk for processing all these, from Consent to Building permit approval.
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by TrollinStone: 2:30pm On Apr 27, 2016
I hope the compensation comes through AND is properly calculated, b4 they throw some small change at these guys and chase them out of their homes. & to me, the main problem is lack of well-organized adequate public transportation, there are simply too many vehicles on these narrow, potholed roads. We shd hv PT working like it does abroad.
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by 50pseamer(m): 8:29pm On Apr 27, 2016
mapet:
Bros,

Thanks for the clarification.

I think the issue with your situation is unfortunate. Why do I say so. The first problem is that you bought your land from a non-tax paying citizen (I had initially thought you implied it was a flat tax). It is unfortunate in that, at the point of registration, the government will require the tax clearance/card/details from both the seller and the buyer. This is applied to make sure that citizens fulfil their civic duties. The problem is that most citizens in Lagos don't pay tax. Unfortunately I think there is an option of a penalty, which people opt to pay to avoid delay of the processing, hence the situation in your case (I will imagine). It is not compulsory. If you have known ahead and can insist, you could have ascertained if your seller had tax card or clearance, if not net, out the difference depending on how the negotiation swings.

Also, I think you should see someone in Ministry of Lands (I could refer you) wrt the fact that you don't live in the country and as such do not have tax card. I imagine the person helping you with the process chose the 300k option (which may likely be the penalty of non-compliance with tax payment) to speed up the process.

Other things you expressed here are personal perspectives. That the charges are exorbitant are relative, the point is that these are statutory and backed by law. That they may still be cumbersome is an argument I agree with. I believe there should be a one-stop desk for processing all these, from Consent to Building permit approval.
Would be nice if you could link me up , so i can clarify the issue, i will send you and email and you can senf me the contact through it.
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by mapet: 11:43pm On Apr 27, 2016
50pseamer:
Would be nice if you could link me up , so i can clarify the issue, i will send you and email and you can senf me the contact through it.
Done
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by Bifwoli: 8:24pm On Oct 07, 2016
Dollyak:
Sorry to burst your bubble, Africa is poor. Lagos gpd is now more than $130 Billion quite a bit chuck more than kenya
Sorry to burst your misleading bubble, the economy of Lagos has never been over $100bn and now with recession and the steep devaluation of Naira the economy of Lagos is actually smaller than the economy of Kenya.

In 2014 the Naira exchanged at N150 to $1 dollar meaning the economy of Lagos was US $90b.

In 2016 the Naira exchanges at N315 to $1 meaning the economy of Lagos is actually US $43b.
Re: Lagos To Demolish 800 Houses For 4th Mainland Bridge by omonnakoda: 8:58pm On Oct 07, 2016
Category1:
[size=13pt]i'm so angry that LAGOS wasn't a well planned city.
before the creation of Lagos, all these stuffs should have been jotted down...so pple ain't going to build houses illegally, and now that the Lagos state government is planning to demolish a whole 800 Houses(no be beans now) to make pple poor and homeless?

Haba!. Ambode needs to forget that bridge abeg, 800 houses ke?
How can the poor be getting poorer? This ain't possible.
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