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Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by MrPresident1: 10:53am On May 05, 2016
urahara:
Are u going to blatantly ignore bible passages about disbelivers being condemned
I am sure we can come to a compromise if we are willing to consider that the Bible is an esoteric text, and therefore much of its language is not plain. You need a level of exposure to God to begin to understand His mind, it is just like the relationship between a son and father, you learn over time how to read your father's moods and attitudes and state of mind.

But you first have to draw close first. He sees your heart and understands your skepticism, your first step to Him is to acknowledge your fears, tell them all to HIM, and ask for His help and direction.

He will help you, only make sure you are true, because you cannot hide hypocrisy from Him who is the very blood that flows in your veins and arteries wink
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by MrPresident1: 10:54am On May 05, 2016
urahara:
It seems u are not as fanatical and bigoted as the rest of ur brethen
Lol, there is nothing to be fanatical about. Real knowledge illuminates, it does not create fanatics.
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by cloudgoddess(f):
MrPresident1:
Chief, your skepticism about religion is not misplaced, religion has been used to perpetrate all kinds of evil in the society. But God transcends religion, you cannot box God into a religion, if one is true because God sees the heart, God will use religion to guide such a person to Himself.

Eventually the true seeker will transcend religion.

If you want to have a more in-depth understanding of the Bible, I think I can help you, but you will need to be personally responsible for your journey
I kid you not, a Muslim said precisely the same thing to me last night, except with Allah. "Allah will guide me to him if I just seek truth and read the Quran."
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by cloudgoddess(f): 4:14pm On May 05, 2016
MrPresident1:
No my friend, it is you who is vainly ignorant wink
Nah. Any objective mind who picks up a bible can see the blatant and embarassing scientific contradictions. You don't even have to pass the first 10 pages before you are met with mountains of nonsensical unscientific claims, including, but not limited to:

- Humans being made from clay (clay is silicon... humans are carbon, oxygen, phosphorus, sulfur, nitrogen, etc etc)
- Light being present before stars and plants being present before the sun (impossible, clearly.)
- The moon being a light source in itself (the moon reflects the suns light. but of course the primitive humans who wrote the bible wouldn't know that)
- Animals being created in their present states all at once (problematic when dinosaurs, trilobites, and not to mention the microorganisms that preceeded all multicellular life, are taken into consideration. which of course, again, primitive man would have not known about.)

And of course later on you're met with even more nonsensicalities, like the noah's ark story (7 million species on a wooden boat for 40 days? How the hell would they fit? What the f* would the lions eat? What of the saltwater & freshwater that mixed - that would certainly kill all marine life in need of specific salinity levels), and jonah and the whale's stomach (he would've been burned by stomach acid within a few hours. no way any human could survive for 3 days in the stomach of any creature).

It feels redundant quite frankly typing all of this out, because any person who has actually read the bible AND has even a rudimentary science education would quickly see these inconsistencies and more. But this is a classic case of Dunning Kruger effect. You can genuinely believe in your mind that I am the ignorant one, because of how little you actually know about how the world around you truly operates. It's how religions keep their followers dumb and proud of it - feed them easily digestible lies, then assure them that there's no way they can be wrong, and discourage them from learning actual science. The end result is people thinking their beliefs are sensible when they've really just been brainwashed to think so & don't know anything else.
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by marshalcarter: 4:16pm On May 05, 2016
cloudgoddess:
Nah. Any objective mind who picks up a bible can see the blatant and embarassing scientific contradictions. You don't even have to pass the first 10 pages before you are met with mountains of nonsensical unscientific claims, including, but not limited to:

- Humans being made from clay (clay is silicon... humans are carbon, oxygen, phosphorus, sulfur, nitrogen, etc etc)
- Light being present before stars and plants being present before the sun (impossible, clearly.)
- The moon being a light source in itself (the moon reflects the suns light. but of course the primitive humans who wrote the bible wouldn't know that)
- Animals being created in their present states all at once (problematic when dinosaurs, trilobites, and not to mention the microorganisms that preceeded all multicellular life, are taken into consideration. which of course, again, primitive man would have not known about.)

And of course later on you're met with even more nonsensicalities, like the noah's ark story (7 million species on a wooden boat for 40 days? How the hell would they fit? What the f* would the lions eat? What of the saltwater & freshwater that mixed - that would certainly kill all marine life in need of specific salinity levels), and jonah and the whale's stomach (he would've been burned by stomach acid within a few hours. no way any human could survive for 3 days in the stomach of any creature).

It feels redundant quite frankly typing all of this out, because any person who has actually read the bible AND has even a rudimentary science education would quickly see these inconsistencies and more. But this is a classic case of Dunning Kruger effect. You can genuinely believe in your mind that I am the ignorant one, because of how little you actually know about how the world around you truly operates. It's how religions keep their followers dumb and proud of it - feed them easily digestible lies, then assure them that there's no way they can be wrong. The end result is people thinking their beliefs are sensible when they've really just been brainwashed to think so & don't know anything else.
Dats to show that there is GOD cheesy
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by MrPresident1: 5:31pm On May 05, 2016
cloudgoddess:
Nah. Any objective mind who picks up a bible can see the blatant and embarassing scientific contradictions. You don't even have to pass the first 10 pages before you are met with mountains of nonsensical unscientific claims, including, but not limited to:

- Humans being made from clay (clay is silicon... humans are carbon, oxygen, phosphorus, sulfur, nitrogen, etc etc)
- Light being present before stars and plants being present before the sun (impossible, clearly.)
- The moon being a light source in itself (the moon reflects the suns light. but of course the primitive humans who wrote the bible wouldn't know that)
- Animals being created in their present states all at once (problematic when dinosaurs, trilobites, and not to mention the microorganisms that preceeded all multicellular life, are taken into consideration. which of course, again, primitive man would have not known about.)

And of course later on you're met with even more nonsensicalities, like the noah's ark story (7 million species on a wooden boat for 40 days? How the hell would they fit? What the f* would the lions eat? What of the saltwater & freshwater that mixed - that would certainly kill all marine life in need of specific salinity levels), and jonah and the whale's stomach (he would've been burned by stomach acid within a few hours. no way any human could survive for 3 days in the stomach of any creature).

It feels redundant quite frankly typing all of this out, because any person who has actually read the bible AND has even a rudimentary science education would quickly see these inconsistencies and more. But this is a classic case of Dunning Kruger effect. You can genuinely believe in your mind that I am the ignorant one, because of how little you actually know about how the world around you truly operates. It's how religions keep their followers dumb and proud of it - feed them easily digestible lies, then assure them that there's no way they can be wrong, and discourage them from learning actual science. The end result is people thinking their beliefs are sensible when they've really just been brainwashed to think so & don't know anything else.
These are the things you have in your head as evidence, as proof, that the Bible is not compatible with science?

Are you sure you are sane?

I mean, what the fork is all these angry

Da fork is the meaning of this huh
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by MrPresident1: 5:38pm On May 05, 2016
cloudgoddess:
I kid you not, a Muslim said precisely the same thing to me last night, except with Allah. "Allah will guide me to him if I just seek truth and read the Quran."
Look here, listen what I meant is that religion is a guide, religions are only guides to God, God sees the heart of the genuine seeker, you don't even need to belong to any religion to be right with Him, as long as you have a pure heart, you will find Him, He is not hidden from the worthy, only the unworthy sweat it. You cannot box God into a religion, religions are only paths to Him.

Are you in rebellion against religion or in rebellion against God?
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by UyiIredia(m): 6:27pm On May 05, 2016
They disagree in the areas of life origins. But science is wrong on that and the Bible is on the right track.
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:38pm On May 05, 2016
cloudgoddess:
Nah. Any objective mind who picks up a bible can see the blatant and embarassing scientific contradictions. You don't even have to pass the first 10 pages before you are met with mountains of nonsensical unscientific claims, including, but not limited to:

- Humans being made from clay (clay is silicon... humans are carbon, oxygen, phosphorus, sulfur, nitrogen, etc etc)
- Light being present before stars and plants being present before the sun (impossible, clearly.)
- The moon being a light source in itself (the moon reflects the suns light. but of course the primitive humans who wrote the bible wouldn't know that)
- Animals being created in their present states all at once (problematic when dinosaurs, trilobites, and not to mention the microorganisms that preceeded all multicellular life, are taken into consideration. which of course, again, primitive man would have not known about.)

And of course later on you're met with even more nonsensicalities, like the noah's ark story (7 million species on a wooden boat for 40 days? How the hell would they fit? What the f* would the lions eat? What of the saltwater & freshwater that mixed - that would certainly kill all marine life in need of specific salinity levels), and jonah and the whale's stomach (he would've been burned by stomach acid within a few hours. no way any human could survive for 3 days in the stomach of any creature).

It feels redundant quite frankly typing all of this out, because any person who has actually read the bible AND has even a rudimentary science education would quickly see these inconsistencies and more. But this is a classic case of Dunning Kruger effect. You can genuinely believe in your mind that I am the ignorant one, because of how little you actually know about how the world around you truly operates. It's how religions keep their followers dumb and proud of it - feed them easily digestible lies, then assure them that there's no way they can be wrong, and discourage them from learning actual science. The end result is people thinking their beliefs are sensible when they've really just been brainwashed to think so & don't know anything else.
Can someone lock this benighted lady in her box of ignorance and shallow-mindedness ? Please ? Or close her account or something , her specious arguments are just odious .
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by cloudgoddess(f): 7:14pm On May 05, 2016
MrPresident1:
Look here, listen what I meant is that religion is a guide, religions are only guides to God, God sees the heart of the genuine seeker, you don't even need to belong to any religion to be right with Him, as long as you have a pure heart, you will find Him, He is not hidden from the worthy, only the unworthy sweat it. You cannot box God into a religion, religions are only paths to Him.

Are you in rebellion against religion or in rebellion against God?
So you think Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Zeus, Venus, etc. are all the same person?
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by cloudgoddess(f): 7:15pm On May 05, 2016
MrPresident1:
These are the things you have in your head as evidence, as proof, that the Bible is not compatible with science?

Are you sure you are sane?

I mean, what the fork is all these angry

Da fork is the meaning of this huh
Point proven.
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by urahara(m): 7:34pm On May 05, 2016
MrPresident1:
These are the things you have in your head as evidence, as proof, that the Bible is not compatible with science?

Are you sure you are sane?

I mean, what the fork is all these angry

Da fork is the meaning of this huh
Wow. U re staring to sound lyk a religious nutjob
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by wirinet(m):
MrPresident1:
My friend, I am not an expert in the Koran, but I can provide you guidance to liberate your mind from Bible ignorance.

That said, the Koran, the Hindu scriptures and the text for many other religions were written by black/Negro men, they are all the Gospel of God, they are all ways to God if rightly interpreted. But my forte is the Bible and I can help you if you are willing to approach with an open mind, if you are truly interested in knowing God, IF YOU ARE READY TO BE CIVILISED, THE WORD OF GOD IS THE CIVILISER OF MANKIND. wink.

The Word of God is the breathe of God, it is this word of God in you that differentiates you from a beast.

Can you present one or two of your 'Scientific' facts that show that the Bible and science are irreconcilable?
I can present hundreds but here are a few;
Your bible says man is made from inorganic compounds - dust (mainly silicon), but science says man is made of organic compounds (mainly carbon)

Your bible says one rib was taken from man to make woman, meaning, men should have 23 ribs and woman should have only one rib, but science says birth man and woman has 24 ribs.

You bible says a talking snake talked to eve, science says snakes do not have the larynx for human speech, they can only make hissing sound.

Your bible says Noah built a wooden ark capable of holding and sustaining a couple (some say 7) of over a million species of all land animals over a sustained period of time ( over 6 months), science says it is a physical, logistical and logical impossibility. In addition, i would like to asked bible believers, what happened to the plants, Was there another botanic Noah that saved the plants as all the plants would have died submerged in salt water for that length of time. Then after alighting from the ark, what did Noah and all the saved animals feed on?

The bible says the sun and moon stood still but science says it is an impossibility.
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by MrPresident1: 9:04pm On May 05, 2016
wirinet:
I can present hundreds but here are a few;
Your bible says man is made from inorganic compounds - dust (mainly silicon), but science says man is made of organic compounds (mainly carbon)

Your bible says one rib was taken from man to make woman, meaning, men should have 23 ribs and woman should have only one rib, but science says birth man and woman has 24 ribs.

You bible says a talking snake talked to eve, science says snakes do not have the larynx for human speech, they can only make hissing sound.

Your bible says Noah built a wooden ark capable of holding and sustaining a couple (some say 7) of over a million species of all land animals over a sustained period of time ( over 6 months), science says it is a physical, logistically and logical impossibility. In addition, i would like to asked bible believers, what happened to the plants, Was there another botanic Noah that saved the plants as all the plants would have died submerged in salt water for that length of time. Then after alighting from the ark, what did Noah and all the saved animals feed on?

The bible says the sun and moon stood still but science says it is an impossibility.
I take it that these also are the 'evidences' on which your atheism is premised

You are empty vacuous and intellectually vapid.

Your rebellion is not against religion, it is against God. The consequence of your choice will come to you shortly.

See evidence!

Evidences, I shake my head for all that you re
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by urahara(m): 9:24pm On May 05, 2016
MrPresident1:
I take it that these also are the 'evidences' on which your atheism is premised

You are empty vacuous and intellectually vapid.

Your rebellion is not against religion, it is against God. The consequence of your choice will come to you shortly.

See evidence!

Evidences, I shake my head for all that you re
I take my comment about u back . you are the worst christian nairalander i have ever seen . u didnt even bother to prove cloudgodess and wirinet wrong.

Even king ebukas blog and the rest of his ilk would at least poorly attempt to bend the meanings of words, but u have just been ranting like a rabid guinea pig all day . its almost as if u know deep down that these are real scientific blunders and u feel frustrated and u are now taking out your anger.

Pls . dont rant. Its not anyones fault that the writers of the bible were oblivious of so many things including science and history .

Cloudgodess and wirinet are just giving u a tip of the bibles ignorance on scientific matters angry angry angry


If they should go further than this , what would u then do, deactivat3 ur account.


You said their rebellion is against god , no, their rebellion is infact against u. For god is a part of your subconscious . this is why u get angry when someone disagrees with u on god. Because god is u. This is why he knows u so well. Your split personality is god. He is part of your psyche. This is why he seems real to u. That which u have imagined has become real unto u.
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by MrPresident1: 9:34pm On May 05, 2016
urahara:
I take my comment about u back . you are the worst christian nairalander i have ever seen . u didnt even bother to prove cloudgodess and wirinet wrong.

Even king ebukas blog and the rest of his ilk would at least poorly attempt to bend the meanings of words, but u have just been ranting like a rabid guinea pig all day . its almost as if u know deep down that these are real scientific blunders and u feel frustrated and u are now taking out your anger.

Pls . dont rant. Its not anyones fault that the writers of the bible were oblivious of so many things including science and history .

Cloudgodess and wirinet are just giving u a tip of the bibles ignorance on scientific matters angry angry angry


If they should go further than this , what would u then do, deactivat3 ur account.


You said their rebellion is against god , no, their rebellion is infact against u. For god is a part of your subconscious . this is why u get angry when someone disagrees with u on god. Because god is u. This is why he knows u so well. Your split personality is god. He is part of your psyche. This is why he seems real to u. That which u have imagined has become real unto u.
LMAO cheesy

You want me to argue so strenuously so eloquently, so convincingly to defend the 'Word of God', LMAO. You have heard it all, you are on lockdown wink
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by urahara(m): 9:43pm On May 05, 2016
MrPresident1:
LMAO cheesy

You want me to argue so strenuously so eloquently, so convincingly to defend the 'Word of God', LMAO. You have heard it all, you are on lockdown wink
cry

Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:19am On May 06, 2016
urahara:
I take my comment about u back . you are the worst christian nairalander i have ever seen . u didnt even bother to prove cloudgodess and wirinet wrong.

Even king ebukas blog and the rest of his ilk would at least poorly attempt to bend the meanings of words, but u have just been ranting like a rabid guinea pig all day . its almost as if u know deep down that these are real scientific blunders and u feel frustrated and u are now taking out your anger.

Pls . dont rant. Its not anyones fault that the writers of the bible were oblivious of so many things including science and history .

Cloudgodess and wirinet are just giving u a tip of the bibles ignorance on scientific matters angry angry angry


If they should go further than this , what would u then do, deactivat3 ur account.


You said their rebellion is against god , no, their rebellion is infact against u. For god is a part of your subconscious . this is why u get angry when someone disagrees with u on god. Because god is u. This is why he knows u so well. Your split personality is god. He is part of your psyche. This is why he seems real to u. That which u have imagined has become real unto u.
Trust me , if MrPresident1 starts inundating you with how the bible agrees with science , you go believe in Christ instanta . I enjoy the show of ignorance the atheists put on . cool
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by urahara(m): 7:16am On May 06, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Trust me , if lexiconakbir starts inundating you with how the koran agrees with science , you go believe in allah instanta . I enjoy the show of ignorance the xtians put on . cool
Re: Does Science Agree With The Bible? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:51am On May 06, 2016
[quote author=urahara post=45356029][/quote]You know quite clearly that this is character assassination - attracts a ban . undecided
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