WeNigerDelta:


Can't you see them already fighting for positions in their states?
How is that any of your business how we decide to champion our destiny?
The Nigerian state gave birth to Tompolo and other due to their constant neglect of the region that feed you and your broke ass Bleep state.
As long as they continue to neglect us new Tompolos will rise. Better trained and more sophisticated, sooner or later we will either get our wish or the country goes broke. Unless your region is now able to chest the burdening of feeding the nation. If so we will gladly sit down and wait for our allocation like your lazy asses keep doing....

Your reaction betrays how incredulous the thought of a niger delta republic really is. I know them since I am partly niger delta.

Niger Delta and Biafra side by side go still make sense

kayfra:


Your reaction betrays how incredulous the thought of a niger delta republic really is. I know them since I am partly niger delta.

Abeg face front. Partly indeed, face the part that's not from ND please.
Every country has their differences, we have lived among one another longer than we have been in Nigeria. And for some weird reason you want me to believe you that we will hand out country over to our warlords. Like you know them more than we do. Like you're the one silently rebelling against them now and fighting for accountable leadership?
Like I have said in another thread, you don't guys don't care for us, and subtly threaten us that we will never have it as good as we have it now in Naija if we decided to leave.
Keep your passive aggressive threats, I have lived with these people longer than Nigeria. We were getting along fine before colonialism and we will figure it out if and when we decide to leave the injustice of a country...

WeNigerDelta:


Abeg face front. Partly indeed, face the part that's not from ND please.
Every country has their differences, we have lived among one another longer than we have been in Nigeria. And for some weird reason you want me to believe you that we will hand out country over to our warlords. Like you know them more than we do. Like you're the one silently rebelling against them now and fighting for accountable leadership?
Like I have said in another thread, you don't guys don't care for us, and subtly threaten us that we will never have it as good as we have it now in Naija if we decided to leave.
Keep your passive aggressive threats, I have lived with these people longer than Nigeria. We were getting along fine before colonialism and we will figure it out if and when we decide to leave the injustice of a country...

This fortunately is post colonial Nigeria. the same structure used to elect your governors are exactly the same apparatus that will be deployed if the region is independent. No kumbaya anywhere. Get real.

fr3do:


The republic should have a weak centre with autonomous states/provinces carved along ethnic boundaries.

The Igbos in Delta, Rivers and Edo will be part of an Igbo republic.

There are no igbo in niger delta republic. What we have is igbanke, ika, ikwerre, kwale, ndokwa etc. They are distinct ethnic group. Similarity with Igbo dont make them igbo. Just Itsekiri similarity with yoruba dont make them yoruba. Urhobo and isoko are similar to edo. But they are urhobo and isoko, they are not edo. Akoko edo are similar to yoruba, but we dont consider them yoruba. Ishan is similar to bini. But we dont consider them bini. They are ishan. Etsako is similar to Esan. But we see them as Etsako. kalabari and okrika are similar to Ijaw. But we consider them as okrika and kalabari not Ijaw. Let every ethnic group hold and maintain thier distinct identity. Stop unnecceassary attachment. We are discussing Niger Delta republic. In dis republic every ethnic group is considered distinct and autonomous. That is how we roll. We wont agregate ethnic group.

This is one of d way we will prevent another Nigeria with clear majority three tribes. In Niger Delta republic, there will be no strong majority. Our common language will be engilsh and pidgin english.

zuchyblink:
Niger Delta and Biafra side by side go still make sense

Gbam!!!!

kayfra:



This fortunately is post colonial Nigeria. the same structure used to elect your governors are exactly the same apparatus that will be deployed if the region is independent. No kumbaya anywhere. Get real.

That makes no sense at all...When the US got her independence from the UK, they didn't elect to go with Monarchy....Nigeria got its independence from the UK we also practice pseudo federalism....
A fight for independence will bring to the forefront new warlord. Both intellectual and otherwise. The battle in front of us made the warlords we have, we are not gonna blow up pipelines with books.
At least our constitution is not gonna be drafted by military leaders. So we have an edge on Nigeria already.
Also I am not from Tompolo and Asari's province and in event of a ND Republic they won't represent me. Even if their people decide they should be represented by Tompolo who are you to act like you know them and what is best for them?
Have you done 0.001% of what Tompolo has done for his pple for your immediate family? Would you put your life on the line for them? Will you go to war and face hot lead for your people?
Those who you and your people are quick to tag as warlords have done this and more for their people. Sometimes against my own people, I understand all is fair in war. I'm not saying all these suddenly make them any less a thief, or are they worthy of the name leaders. But they have been willing to sacrifice their lives for us to live. How many people can you point to from your tribe that has done this?

tuale4u:


There are no igbo in niger delta republic. What we have is igbanke, ika, ikwerre, kwale, ndokwa etc. They are distinct ethnic group. Similarity with Igbo dont make them igbo. Just Itsekiri similarity with yoruba dont make them yoruba. Urhobo and isoko are similar to edo. But they are urhobo and isoko, they are not edo. Akoko edo are similar to yoruba, but we dont consider them yoruba. Ishan is similar to bini. But we dont consider them bini. They are ishan. Etsako is similar to Esan. But we see them as Etsako. kalabari and okrika are similar to Ijaw. But we consider them as okrika and kalabari not Ijaw. Let every ethnic group hold and maintain thier distinct identity. Stop unnecceassary attachment. We are discussing Niger Delta republic. In dis republic every ethnic group is considered distinct and autonomous. That is how we roll. We wont agregate ethnic group.

The thread was going just beautifully!... until you derailed it with this. Be like say you be itsekhiri,make I call my men! [all SS Igbo]………
Ugomba,Cheruv,Ikechu1278,Explorer250,onenaira1,onenaira2,onenaira3,onenaira6,igbodelta,eastlink,melzabull,madenigga,Iykopee....
You should have faced the topic!!!

tuale4u:


There are no igbo in niger delta republic. What we have is igbanke, ika, ikwerre, kwale, ndokwa etc. They are distinct ethnic group. Similarity with Igbo dont make them igbo. Just Itsekiri similarity with yoruba dont make them yoruba. Urhobo and isoko are similar to edo. But they are urhobo and isoko, they are not edo. Akoko edo are similar to yoruba, but we dont consider them yoruba. Ishan is similar to bini. But we dont consider them bini. They are ishan. Etsako is similar to Esan. But we see them as Etsako. kalabari and okrika are similar to Ijaw. But we consider them as okrika and kalabari not Ijaw. Let every ethnic group hold and maintain thier distinct identity. Stop unnecceassary attachment. We are discussing Niger Delta republic. In dis republic every ethnic group is considered distinct and autonomous. That is how we roll. We wont agregate ethnic group.

This is one of d way we will prevent another Nigeria with clear majority three tribes. In Niger Delta republic, there will be no strong majority. Our common language will be engilsh and pidgin english.

The Igbo race is a collection of several groups east and west of the Niger.
We dont have a common fairy tale origin myth like the yoruba, Hausa ethnic groups.
We are Igbos because we have same culture, my people's geographical zone and their location relative to the Niger has no business with their Igboness.

what is going on here? lol

AntiMahdi:
[s]1. Fisheries

2. Sea ports .

3. Agriculture .

4. Tourism.

5. Harbour services .

6. Aviation.

7. Financial services and Banking

8. Oil and gas.

9. Electricy export.

10. Packaging firms

11. Automotive industry

12. Ship yards, docks and fabrication .

kropotkin11 , orlandoowoh , kaakulator3 Oduastates come and lament here.[/s]

Yoruba man you are!

ijaw1stson:
what is going on here? lol

Guy, forgive me I have to ask "Why are you laughing" cause somehow your question is making me laugh

iSlayer:

Guy, forgive me I have to ask "Why are you laughing" cause somehow your question is making me laugh

I'm seeing people splitting Niger Delta

fr3do:


The republic should have a weak centre with autonomous states/provinces carved along ethnic boundaries.

The Igbos in Delta, Rivers and Edo will be part of an Igbo republic.

The bold is already in progress

iSlayer:

The thread was going just beautifully!... until you derailed it with this. Be like say you be itsekhiri,make I call my men! [all SS Igbo]………
Ugomba,Cheruv,Ikechu1278,Explorer250,onenaira1,onenaira2,onenaira3,onenaira6,igbodelta,eastlink,melzabull,madenigga,Iykopee....
You should have faced the topic!!!

Gbachie efulefu ahu nkiti

The SS as presently constituted comprise mainly of four ethnic stocks viz
1]Edoid eg Bini, urhobo/isoko, afenmai, ishan, jekiri
2]Igboid eg Anioma, ikwere, ekpeye, bonny/opobo, abi
3]Ijoid eg kalabari, sagbama, nembe, okirika, brass
4]Cross river eg Ogoni, Ibibio, anang, efik, ekoi, boki/yalla

Excluding the Igboid groups, the NDR can comprise of the other three which would balance each other out.

cheruv:

The bold is already in progress

throw more light.
Is it that pro-biafra delegates are meeting with chiefs and traditional heads of these communities?

cheruv:

Gbachie efulefu ahu nkiti

The SS as presently constituted comprise mainly of four ethnic stocks viz
1]Edoid eg Bini, urhobo/isoko, afenmai, ishan, jekiri
2]Igboid eg Anioma, ikwere, ekpeye, bonny/opobo, abi
3]Ijoid eg kalabari, sagbama, nembe, okirika, brass
4]Cross river eg Ogoni, Ibibio, anang, efik, ekoi, boki/yalla

Excluding the Igboid groups, the NDR can comprise of the other three which would balance each other out.

Apt!

dreams are good sha

with the glaring leadership deficit and the deification of thugs , all this is is what it is a post on a webpage

the most famous notorious names to come out of the niger delta - ibori, alams, goodluck, tompolo, dokubo

incompetent, theiveing leaders or sabotuer gang leaders

add that to a population with a rentier entitlement mentality

all the items listed require investment. no one is going to invest in a region where a mafia runs protection rackets [ nice farm you have there, it would be a shame if anything happened to it. the only people who can protect your investment are the -insert local thug branch name- ]

the so called leaders looted the region dry and invested in other locations

those who chose to invest in the region built of all things, hotels

most importantly, the only way the typical niger deltan knows how to resolve disputes is with violence. that is not an environment for growth or business.

those who could have fostered some sort of positive change have been sidelined. those in the forefront are the likes of wike, who has in less than a year turned PH into a den of marauding thugs.

anyway, what would the internet be if kids could not post their fantasies on it?

oyb:
dreams are good sha

with the glaring leadership deficit and the deification of thugs , all this is is what it is a post on a webpage

the most famous notorious names to come out of the niger delta - ibori, alams, goodluck, tompolo, dokubo

incompetent, theiveing leaders or sabotuer gang leaders

add that to a population with a rentier entitlement mentality

all the items listed require investment. no one is going to invest in a region where a mafia runs protection rackets [ nice farm you have there, it would be a shame if anything happened to it. the only people who can protect your investment are the -insert local thug branch name- ]

the so called leaders looted the region dry and invested in other locations

those who chose to invest in the region built of all things, hotels

most importantly, the only way the typical niger deltan knows how to resolve disputes is with violence. that is not an environment for growth or business.

those who could have fostered some sort of positive change have been sidelined. those in the forefront are the likes of wike, who has in less than a year turned PH into a den of marauding thugs.

anyway, what would the internet be if kids could not post their fantasies on it?

Hear we go again...You guys have only one play, FEAR MONGERING...Outside that you have said absolutely nothing.....
I have said it before on this forum and will say it again I will match Chief James Onanefe Ibori's record against any governor from any region during 1999-2007....I'm not absorbing him of his crimes, but y'all should stop acting like your leaders were and are poster boys for competence, good leadership and delivering the dividends of democracy...
The Nigeria state made our warlords with the constant neglect of our region that feeds you and whatever broke state you're from...Tompolo used to work for NPA, if NPA Warri was not systematically shut down before the rise of militancy....Maybe you and other Nigerians wouldn't have known him....Karma is a big B

oduastates:
Remove itshekiris land from that crap.
Kuwait no dey join the Iraqi.
Internet warriors,Ipob and those militants buffoons are in for a surprise in case of the eventuality.
Maybe edo state state will like to follow oil but, as far as I know, itshekiris will be on their own in the future whether within Nigeria or without.
And Protected.

Thank you my brother, I didn't kw itsekiri people is on nl. The so called NDA are ijaw people, they leave bayalsa to warri to bomb pipeline in our area. We can Neva be part of Biafra or Niger delta republic.

oduastates:
Remove itshekiris land from that crap.
Kuwait no dey join the Iraqi.
Internet warriors,Ipob and those militants buffoons are in for a surprise in case of the eventuality.
Maybe edo state state will like to follow oil but, as far as I know, itshekiris will be on their own in the future whether within Nigeria or without.
And Protected.

Thank you my brother, I didn't kw itsekiri people are on nl. The so called NDA are ijaw people, they leave bayalsa to warri to bomb pipeline in our area. We can Neva be part of Biafra or Niger delta republic.

MrTruth4real:

Thank you my brother, I didn't kw itsekiri people are on nl. The so called NDA are ijaw people, they leave bayalsa to warri to bomb pipeline in our area. We can Neva be part of Biafra or Niger delta republic.

Bros bros....Abeg you well well ooo....You are not more Itsekhiri me....Stop following these Yoruba people and their Ibikadun oooo....Na only for NL we be brother....Go live in Ibadan, they go use tribalism and racism finish, then you're "Omo bendel"....Or you nor know how dem dey use tribalism and brother brother corner many top jobs for yard?
Most importantly they don't and will never feel our pain. They are part of the people that have ripped us off for years...None of them care about the degradation of our lands, they have no idea what it is like in the creeks...
I will stand with my brothers that have lived by my side for generations, irrespective of our difference. I know 100% they share and feel my exact pain and deep down we all want the same thing, development of creeks, villages and towns....

fr3do:


The republic should have a weak centre with autonomous states/provinces carved along ethnic boundaries.

The Igbos in Delta, Rivers and Edo will be part of an Igbo republic.

They are no ibos in Niger delta

WeNigerDelta:


Bros bros....Abeg you well well ooo....You are not more Itsekhiri me....Stop following these Yoruba people and their Ibikadun oooo....Na only for NL we be brother....Go live in Ibadan, they go use tribalism and racism finish, then you're "Omo bendel"....Or you nor know how dem dey use tribalism and brother brother corner many top jobs for yard?
Most importantly they don't and will never feel our pain. They are part of the people that have ripped us off for years...None of them care about the degradation of our lands, they have no idea what it is like in the creeks...
I will stand with my brothers that have lived by my side for generations, irrespective of our difference. I know 100% they share and feel my exact pain and deep down we all want the same thing, development of creeks, villages and towns....

U are right, but blowing up these pipeline is not a way forward and i know itsekiri boys will not indulge in such activities. That is why I am angry, even if we want to disintegrate they are other ways of going abt it.

tuale4u:






There are no igbo in niger delta republic. What we have is igbanke, ika, ikwerre, kwale, ndokwa etc. They are distinct ethnic group. Similarity with Igbo dont make them igbo. Just Itsekiri similarity with yoruba dont make them yoruba.

Really? The people you just mentioned speak Igbo as their ancestral language and have Igbo surnames. So what makes them distinct? Do you think you would be able to tell the difference between me from Anambra and an Ndokwa man if we are both speaking Igbo?

Before you talk about a Niger-Delta Republic, you must first ask the indigenous ethnic groups if they want to be part of it via a referendum. It could that the Efik man does not want be with the Bini man. It could be that the the Ika/Igbanke prefare to join their Igbo kindred, it could be that the Ijaw nation dont want to be with any Edoid group. You have to stop attaching people. Even IPOB wants a referendum so that everyone can decide what they want. Have you even wondered what the map of a Niger-Delta Republic would look like if all the Igboid elements in Rivers state decide they prefare to be with their Igbo kin? Niger Delta a Republic is an even bigger fantasy than Biafra and is almost unlikely never going to happen.

The ibo,s know how surpass all our oil
we just ve to buy deep into them
The divide and rule proceses over the yrs is taken its toll on most southern folks.








long live










long live

MrTruth4real:

U are right, but blowing up these pipeline is not a way forward and i know itsekiri boys will not indulge in such activities. That is why I am angry, even if we want to disintegrate they are other ways of going abt it.

Yeah I get where you're coming from...But we have really tried other means, it took us 40 plus years to pick up arms....That's more than a long time to be patient....
Also how many times have Itse Sagay and other Niger Deltans tried to use the pen, media and whatever to get some action done...No one cared, until they started feeling the darkness our people have felt in the creeks all their lives, now we are degrading our environment...
Even if majority of these boys might not be Itsekhiri, I support them 100% because they are fighting all our fight not just Ijaw fight...Any thing that comes from this either amnesty or disintegration, na all of us go share am....We go even fight and complain about who should get more, but we will still share it...
I do believe they are Itsekhiri boys among them though, remember say we be minority of minority....Cos you cant attack Abiteye and Ugborodo installations simultaneously without help of Itsekhiris..
Just my 2 cents.....

WeNigerDelta:


Yeah I get where you're coming from...But we have really tried other means, it took us 40 plus years to pick up arms....That's more than a long time to be patient....
Also how many times have Itse Sagay and other Niger Deltans tried to use the pen, media and whatever to get some action done...No one cared, until they started feeling the darkness our people have felt in the creeks all their lives, now we are degrading our environment...
Even if majority of these boys might not be Itsekhiri, I support them 100% because they are fighting all our fight not just Ijaw fight...Any thing that comes from this either amnesty or disintegration, na all of us go share am....We go even fight and complain about who should get more, but we will still share it...
I do believe they are Itsekhiri boys among them though, remember say we be minority of minority....Cos you cant attack Abiteye and Ugborodo installations simultaneously without help of Itsekhiris..
Just my 2 cents.....

OK, if u say so, but I still support one Nigeria, we should fight for resource control rather than disintegration.

Evry region in Nigeria wants Independent pls I also need independent oooo. Buhari grant me my request of been independent.

I am a Rivers man oyigbo to be precise and I stand for one Nigeria, I don't hv time arguing with jobless dreamers over a pipe dream, if u like join Lagos and call it Niger delta republic u can keep dreaming apart from Nigeria, me and an Edo man cant be in the same republic.

iSlayer:
South-South republic is more apt. Let's hear from some Niger-Delta brothers.
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@iSlayer, For me we have to look at the broader view,long run and not only short run. we aren't better off depending on our oil alone because what if the world decide to look other way(other countries with similar resources), i think we should collaborate succintly with our south eastern brothers to make things work out, they are creative and you know our people well,lets not lie for ourselve because what you are pointing out maybe lifetime.

We need a bigger brother support to resist some externalities, and you should know our people(Ikwerre) mentality especially those ones that haven't travelled out of our land and you should also know how we survive here in PH(ka belayi/ka bele nda m), All we need to ask ourselves is this,have our brothers ever shown more interest to be more ikwerre,ogoni or south-south to being a Nigerian.but in the north reverse is the case they show more being northerner to being a Nigerian,so i think we need South east that are hard working to put our leaders on their toes especially when they(South east)with lesser oil reserves will be developing and our brothers(Politicians)will be giving us flimsy excuses why they haven't achieved anything.

Like i always say its easier to pull out from south east when we have gotten out from this dungeon than pulling out from Northern led Nigeria, i never believed in south east until after jonathan was ousted from office.

They are indeed bigger brother and i apologise if my grand father's never supported them because we were misled and mis-informed.

I think, we need biafra more than South-south because Nigeria military/politicians carved out our south-south from Eastern region because they know that its as good as nothing for us(south south) to exist independently and politically without betraying the other to be relevance(amaechi/jonathan 2015 election,Ibori vice president ambition/Jonathan interest,Peter odiri presidency ambition/other south south politicians).

islayer, one question for us all is this,why didn't the north have North-north(e.g states like sokoto,katsina,jigawa,zamfara,yobe,and borno) and leave only kebbi,niger,kaduna and kano as north west. instead what they did is create another political willing tool region called North central in order to keep on perpetruating there Divide and rule.

will stop here till am called upon again, thats my view for now.

[quote author=madenigga post=45443187]I am a Rivers man oyigbo to be precise and I stand for one Nigeria, I don't hv time arguing with jobless dreamers over a pipe dream, if u like join Lagos and call it Niger delta republic u can keep dreaming apart from Nigeria, me and an Edo man cant be in the same republic. [/quote


if u like join Lagos and call it Niger delta republic u can keep dreaming apart from Nigeria, me and my SELF cant be in the same republic.





LONG LIVE