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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 12:01pm On May 08, 2016
diagro:
Why do u guys say what u are not sure of? U say Ijaw is not interested while Asari Dokubo claims the word 'Biafra' has an Ijaw origin? If Biafra is all about Igbo, why not call it Igbo Republic? Was it only Igbos that fought the war on d Biafran side?
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For the most foolish comment of the day.
Which asari dokubo?
The one hiding at Cotonou.
We ND has made it clear, we say no to Biafra.
Even NDA say no to Biafra.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Ngozi123(f): 12:16pm On May 08, 2016
The most obvious consequence would be that Nigeria would automatically become a majority Islamic state. This would probably lead to the formalisation of Islam as the country's religion, leaving a lot of Christian minorities in the dark. I'm not entirely sure on any other consequences as that would depend on how Biafra gets her independence, by military force or diplomacy.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 12:32pm On May 08, 2016
Ngozi123:
The most obvious consequence would be that Nigeria would automatically become a majority Islamic state. This would probably lead to the formalisation of Islam as the country's religion, leaving a lot of Christian minorities in the dark. I'm not entirely sure on any other consequences as that would depend on how Biafra gets her independence, by military force or diplomacy.
What are your thoughts of an igbo only country?
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 12:35pm On May 08, 2016
WhoRUDeceiving:


It is you that will not be allowed to join us. You think the Ijaws and cousins and brothers in the East are still falling for your mind control? The world knows that you all can't be trusted and aren't going to ever amount to anything great.

Was it not the Ogun or Osun wives of state assembly that went some years ago to England (where Yorubas are there in millions of course) to take classes taught by 15 year old Oyibos? How many Yoruba are running to America to give birth for blue pale? Even they know Nigerian passport is useless, talkless of being a citizen of the Ni.gga Area.

Nonsense
And u think ND is made up of only ijaws? What about urobo, itsekiri, isoko, and the Edo people, even the agbors, quale, do u tink we will just embrace Biafra like that.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 12:41pm On May 08, 2016
1Tkester:
@OP, to answer your question honestly and clearly, why many of us are clamoring for Biafra is not because we think / believe Biafra will be an eldorado of sorts, NO! But the idea of having a homogenous country is far more beneficial than having a multitudinous heterogenous country as we have it now.

If we the biafrans call out of this entity, it will be easier for us to solve our problems quickly, because there we have many common grounds of understanding in existence. But with the current state of Nigeria where there is no common ground or any atom of homogeneity things can NEVER EVER get better. Just take this Fulani herdsmen problem, these fulanis are known bloodsheders, they committed a war crimes against a small, peaceful and poor community In Enugu, instead of northern leaders to condemn the evil, on the contrary they are only interested in absolving them from blame. Tell me how do you begin to make progress with these kind of people.

You see why we earnestly desire to be on our own. 99% of igbos are Christians with about 79% Catholics, we speak the same language, eat the same food, have uttermost value for live, we are educationally inclined and empowered people, we all believe in the dignity of labour (and not the kind of monkey dey work baboon they chop mentality prevalent amongst youruba and Fulani people), so tell me why wouldn't we make progress?

These are the major reasons why we earnestly need to be on our own. And thankfully, many biafrans are beginning to embrace this ideology and the world is also beginning to act in our interests.
Did u say homogeneous country, do u know how many ethnic group make up ND?

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 12:41pm On May 08, 2016
1Tkester:
@OP, to answer your question honestly and clearly, why many of us are clamoring for Biafra is not because we think / believe Biafra will be an eldorado of sorts, NO! But the idea of having a homogenous country is far more beneficial than having a multitudinous heterogenous country as we have it now.

If we the biafrans call out of this entity, it will be easier for us to solve our problems quickly, because there we have many common grounds of understanding in existence. But with the current state of Nigeria where there is no common ground or any atom of homogeneity things can NEVER EVER get better. Just take this Fulani herdsmen problem, these fulanis are known bloodsheders, they committed a war crimes against a small, peaceful and poor community In Enugu, instead of northern leaders to condemn the evil, on the contrary they are only interested in absolving them from blame. Tell me how do you begin to make progress with these kind of people.

You see why we earnestly desire to be on our own. 99% of igbos are Christians with about 79% Catholics, we speak the same language, eat the same food, have uttermost value for live, we are educationally inclined and empowered people, we all believe in the dignity of labour (and not the kind of monkey dey work baboon they chop mentality prevalent amongst youruba and Fulani people), so tell me why wouldn't we make progress?

These are the major reasons why we earnestly need to be on our own. And thankfully, many biafrans are beginning to embrace this ideology and the world is also beginning to act in our interests.
Did u say homogeneous country, do u know how many ethnic group make up ND? U tink is just IBO and ijaw.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Ngozi123(f): 1:56pm On May 08, 2016
tooco:
What are your thoughts of an igbo only country?

The major problem, in my opinion, would be its direct access to the sea. Although some parts of Igboland, such as that of the Ikwerre, have access to the sea, it's not certain that they'll choose to join Biafra should it come. On the other hand, I'm sure that if the Igbos were to breakaway from Nigeria, most of the minority groups in the present day South-South would follow suit, either to join Biafra or to form their own independent nations. I believe that if the latter were to occur, the problem could easily be alleviated through trade agreements with both sovereign states. I think that that wouldn't be that much of a worry as we, as a people, have been trading with these tribes for thousands of years before the Europeans came. I want to add that, for me, this is the worst case scenario that we could have but we should still be prepared.

Btw, I still support the Igbos staying in Nigeria and would like to push for regionalism before we start thinking of secession.

What do you think?

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by christopher123(m): 2:01pm On May 08, 2016
You know when they ganged up against Jonathan they never knew that they are bringing SS and SE together as God has created them

Now this is blessing in disguise...who again is left out in southern part in cold
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by christopher123(m): 2:04pm On May 08, 2016
MrTruth4real:

And u think ND is made up of only ijaws? What about urobo, itsekiri, isoko, and the Edo people, even the agbors, quale, do u tink we will just embrace Biafra like that.

Who are the we here ...kwale and Agbor are Igbo so what makes you feel that the agbor man that bears chukwudi and the ukwunai man that bears Obinna will leave Igbo to join north ?
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 2:09pm On May 08, 2016
christopher123:


Who are the we here ...kwale and Agbor are Igbo so what makes you feel that the agbor man that bears chukwudi and the ukwunai man that bears Obinna will leave Igbo to join north ?
But have heard agbor people saying they are not IBO's countless times. And what abt the other tribes. Truth be told, we in the nd are not united, not until we unite Biafra can never be actualize.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Ariani: 2:25pm On May 08, 2016
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The most obvious consequence would be that Nigeria would automatically become a majority Islamic state.


Spot on. The Muslim North will use the 60% Yoruba Muslims to good effect towards achieving the total islamization of the New country between the North and SW. cool

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by diagro: 3:18pm On May 08, 2016
MrTruth4real:

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For the most foolish comment of the day.
Which asari dokubo?
The one hiding at Cotonou.
We ND has made it clear, we say no to Biafra.
Even NDA say no to Biafra.
It is indeed true that fools think themselves wise & consider wisdom foolish. Who is now d fool here? Are u d wiser for thinking Dokubo has ceased to be Ijaw because he is in Cotonou? Or are u d wiser for implying ur opinion of Ijaw/ND affairs is more important than Dokubo's? Are u the wiser for beginning a sentence with 'I WHICH'? Are u d wiser for failing to answer d questions i'v raised & instead talking of Cotonou? U seek every opportunity to expose ur poor home training by abusing those who have not abused u.
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by diagro: 3:49pm On May 08, 2016
MrTruth4real:

Did u say homogeneous country, do u know how many ethnic group make up ND?
Well, there is no perfect homogeinity anywhere even in a nuclear family where mom & dad are from d same village. But u need to understand what that guy means: the constituents of Biafra have more common grounds than those of Nigeria. In terms of religion & moralism for example, Biafrans will disagree a lot but not to d point of killing one another. Moreover, who says all ND is included in Biafra - like Isoko, Edo, etc?
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 3:54pm On May 08, 2016
diagro:
Well, there is no perfect homogeinity anywhere even in a nuclear family where mom & dad are from d same village. But u need to understand what that guy means: the constituents of Biafra have more common grounds than those of Nigeria. In terms of religion & moralism for example, Biafrans will disagree a lot but not to d point of killing one another. Moreover, who says all ND is included in Biafra - like Isoko, Edo, etc?
Isoko is a great part of nd, and also, If Biafra
Or Niger delta republic succeed Edo will definitely be part of them.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by diagro: 5:05pm On May 08, 2016
MrTruth4real:

Isoko is a great part of nd, and also, If Biafra
Or Niger delta republic succeed Edo will definitely be part of them.
Note that the term ND is a political term of Nig origin. Biafra is capitalizing on more natural grounds made up mainly of d old Eastern region over which Ojukwu was governor when he declared Biafra plus Igbos across d Niger who were also killed in d 1966 pogrom that set it all off. Did Urhobos, Binis, for eg fight on d side of Biafra in d war? I don't therefore agree dat the entire area called SS/ND in Nig is to be a part of Biafra unless they now choose to.
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 6:15pm On May 08, 2016
diagro:
Note that the term ND is a political term of Nig origin. Biafra is capitalizing on more natural grounds made up mainly of d old Eastern region over which Ojukwu was governor when he declared Biafra plus Igbos across d Niger who were also killed in d 1966 pogrom that set it all off. Did Urhobos, Binis, for eg fight on d side of Biafra in d war? I don't therefore agree dat the entire area called SS/ND in Nig is to be a part of Biafra unless they now choose to.
Kk
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Trapping(m): 7:14pm On May 08, 2016
MrTruth4real:

Did u say homogeneous country, do u know how many ethnic group make up ND? U tink is just IBO and ijaw.


I understand you, but I want you to know that Biafra can only come through a referendum, so people can decide on which side to belong. Right now all those tribes in ND are still very separate entities, and if they chose to come with us, it only they can make this choice. At this point you will agree with me that the Biafra we clamor for is a democratic setting and therefore you can say it is homogenous because people will be ruled by the consensus of the majority, and not what we have in Nigeria now. Can you tell me any where or anytime in history where the over 250 ethnic tribes in Nigeria made a pact to be in the same country, it doesn't just exist.

So Biafra will give people the choice to make up their minds to which side they belong. If the NDeltans (excluding the igbos communities there) chose to go with the fulanis, it is most welcome by us, this is a democratic thing we are talking about here.
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Trapping(m): 7:21pm On May 08, 2016
Ngozi123:


The major problem, in my opinion, would be its direct access to the sea. Although some parts of Igboland, such as that of the Ikwerre, have access to the sea, it's not certain that they'll choose to join Biafra should it come. On the other hand, I'm sure that if the Igbos were to breakaway from Nigeria, most of the minority groups in the present day South-South would follow suit, either to join Biafra or to form their own independent nations. I believe that if the latter were to occur, the problem could easily be alleviated through trade agreements with both sovereign states. I think that that wouldn't be that much of a worry as we, as a people, have been trading with these tribes for thousands of years before the Europeans came. I want to add that, for me, this is the worst case scenario that we could have but we should still be prepared.

Btw, I still support the Igbos staying in Nigeria and would like to push for regionalism before we start thinking of secession.

What do you think?


I respect your opinions, but you've to stop this age long mentality of this sea nonsense. Who told you onitsha cannot be dredged to ferry huge cargoes. Do you know about Oguta river? Please we have to stop this Stockholm syndrome of Igbo being landlocked, it is becoming annoying.

Lastly, there is nothing to restructure Nigeria about. You can never mix oil and water no mater how you try. We just need to go and face our problems squarely. Fulanis can never get along with the Igbos, same with the Yorubas getting along with the igbos, we just have to tell ourselves the truth stop and stop being unnecessarily political correct, you don't need political correctness in something you know will harm you. We just need to go, I bet you our lives will be forever better, than it is now.
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Ngozi123(f): 8:02pm On May 08, 2016
Trapping:



I respect your opinions, but you've to stop this age long mentality of this sea nonsense. Who told you onitsha cannot be dredged to ferry huge cargoes. Do you know about Oguta river? Please we have to stop this Stockholm syndrome of Igbo being landlocked, it is becoming annoying.

Lastly, there is nothing to restructure Nigeria about. You can never mix oil and water no mater how you try. We just need to go and face our problems squarely. Fulanis can never get along with the Igbos, same with the Yorubas getting along with the igbos, we just have to tell ourselves the truth stop and stop being unnecessarily political correct, you don't need political correctness in something you know will harm you. We just need to go, I bet you our lives will be forever better, than it is now.

I would very much appreciate it if you could inform me on the bolded. Thanks in advance.

Btw, my only problem with Igboland not having a direct access to the sea was the possibility that the surrounding tribes could easily cut off our sea access if they saw reason to. However, this is the absolute worst case scenario and is highly unlikely to happen due to the relationship between Igbos and those tribes and international laws, enabling that every sovereign nation has access to the sea.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 9:21pm On May 08, 2016
meccuno:
who has time for war when money has to be made?
Hunger reduces propensity for combat but never kills the desire.
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 9:47pm On May 08, 2016
An igbo only country might not b the worst case scenario cos there wud be an igbo man at the top that cannot work against our interest.The more we stay in nigeria,the more we keep on enriching other parts of d country as we do not c the se as a home probably due 2 lack of fed presence.As 4 the seaport,i'm sure once any group gain freedom from 1 nigeria,others wud do the same .....this way it wud b easier 2 megotiate that with the countrv down south..As 4 other igbo groups outside the se,its keft for only thdm 2 decide and dont include the ikwerres.we shud work with wat we have,cos we are not benefiting anything 4rm d country rAther its d others.its beta we fail as a homogenous country than be nowhere and stagnating in 2days nigeria.i can go on to give a lot of reasons why we are beta off alone bt its beta spoken.

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Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Dec 12, 2016
HopeAtHand:


Leave the Ikwerres out of your plan, we are no part of it. It is best you work within the framework of your 5SE states.
shut the Bleep you motherfucker, ikwerre is biafra . Unreal though, a faceless forum nl. Just tune to Biafra radio and hear them loud lol
Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by Nobody: 6:34pm On Dec 12, 2016
omobaekiti:
see exposé so in your mind you think the ijaw man or anang or Ibibio would pander to this your Biafra ish oh how 'bout the urhobos,isokos,aniomas,Edo's, you plan to amalgamate them and form a federation educate me please cos I really need to know
idiots like u need no edu. Edo is not biafra. biafra is by wisdom and conscience. A referendum will be coducted. Biafra is not by force just as Nizooria. Love all biafrans

Re: What Are The Implications Giving Biafra Independence? by ahaz: 7:41pm On Dec 12, 2016
Atleast the sw will be able to breathe,because suffocation by the bEasts is so much
this os the reason why they term we yorubas hypocrites..there is no week that passes without our yoruba brithers not opening a thread on biafra ..funny enough we yorubas are more afraid of the biafra exit agenda than the hausas.yet, you shamelessly open your toxic mouth to say this trash..we yorubas are heroiclly shameless.

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