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This question is really a no brainier, and if you're a recruiter, it's even more disappointing that you asked such a question.

Why would any sane person lay focus or emphasis on his/her weaknesses? Like someone said above, it's better to leave the recruiter curious. You can better defend your poor grade in person, than letting your CV do that for you.

Beboy23:
op why do u omitted ur own

please your grade......!

Lol

who c.v don epp??

street ti take over

That moment when you have a 2.2 and you're employed yet wondering and you still don't understand the post.
2.2 is very very much accepted by Nigerian companies.

LastMumu:

"And if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off, and cast it from you: for it is better for you that one of your members should perish, and not that your whole body should be cast into hell." - Matthew 5:30

Similarly, if including 2:2 in your CV would lead to you being discriminated against, remove it from your cv and leave just "Second class honours", for it is better to leave the recruiter curious about your real grade than your 2:2 CV being thrown in the trashbin. - Lastmumu 2016

Every idiot and his dog know that when people omit 2.1 from Second class grade, it automatically means 2.2.
No exception.

When you're given a chance to come for an interview, it's not because you fooled your prospective employer.

ethene:
I have really observed this trend, especially with people that graduated with a 2.2 grades and below, they would smartly omit their grades when preparing their CVs. For instance a 2.2 graduate is most likely to write "second class (honors)" instead of "second class honors (lower division)" on his CV. My question is why is this so? Since if eventually u are being called for interview u would definitely be asked. I believe recruiters would most likely sideline ur application because of this omission. What do u think?

Who puts grade in cv's ? Smh

It gets you into the door...

BodyKiss:
This question is really a no brainier, and if you're a recruiter, it's even more disappointing that you asked such a question.

Why would any sane person lay focus or emphasis on his/her weaknesses? Like someone said above, it's better to leave the recruiter curious. You can better defend your poor grade in person, than letting your CV do that for you.

Well, if the recruiter specified 2.1 and you left it out in your CV, what's special about your CV, among many 1.1 and 2.1 submitted to make recruiters curious?

It simply means you have not met that minimum grade criterion having failed to clearly state it.

Beautifulemi:
Lol! it is better to leave the recruiters curious and surprise him or her with your intellect. Most times, some persons have this result on paper and not in their brain.

Fact is there are many people chasing few jobs. Grade is initial screening tool to avoid a deluge of of applications.

95% of the time, your intellect will reflect in your grade. Of course, bereavement, financial worries and so on can negatively affect grade.

Except you're applying for woodwork, iron bender, rewire and so on. Whereby your strength lies in your manual skills.

AreaFada2:
Well, if the recruiter specified 2.1 and you left it out in your CV, what's special about your CV, among many 1.1 and 2.1 submitted to make recruiters curious?

It simply means you have not met that minimum grade criterion having failed to clearly state it.

I haven't seen any serious organization who asks of grade first?Is grade coming to work for you?

Lol.. 2.2 niggas be vexin at OP.

henryhemon:
I haven't seen any serious organization who asks of grade first?Is grade coming to work for you?

Really? Well, some of the word's best companies recruiting from my university back in the day clearly requested grades.

I wonder if you would consider Barclay's Bank, HSBC, the largest pharmaceutical & insurance companies unserious.

A good grade means you worked over many years towards excellence. At least in climes where buying pamphlets and settling lecturers don't determine your grade.

Top companies want the very best. Guess what, they correlate it with your grade.

Not the son or daughter of so & so or reference from certain big individuals matter.

trying to be smart

I'm selling my first class honours. Who wan buy am?

Lastmumu thank you for that epic reply! Don't mind the OP. How e take concern am? We all know that most Nigerian graduates(excluding foreign-schooled counterparts) didnt earn their grades through studying hard,with the high level of corruption in the education sector! So better play smart,than be sorry! Thank God employers are now trying to employ 'quality'and not 'grades'.

datalossvictim1:
I'm selling my first class honours. Who wan buy am?

How much u dey sell am? £50?

ethene:
I have really observed this trend, especially with people that graduated with a 2.2 grades and below, they would smartly omit their grades when preparing their CVs. For instance a 2.2 graduate is most likely to write "second class (honors)" instead of "second class honors (lower division)" on his CV. My question is why is this so? Since if eventually u are being called for interview u would definitely be asked. I believe recruiters would most likely sideline ur application because of this omission. What do u think?

I have attended about 8 interviews have worked in 5 organizations
I have NEVER been asked what class of degree I had
In fact I have NEVER been asked if I have a degree
so..

AreaFada2:
Every idiot and his dog know that when people omit 2.1 from Second class grade, it automatically means 2.2.
No exception.

When you're given a chance to come for an interview, it's not because you fooled your prospective employer.

A wrong assertion. Even some 2.1 graduate don't remember to include it.

Unless your employer specified that it must be on your CV, it is not mandatory

I have a first class, so when I went for my first interview, the HR person asked me why I did not include that in my resume. I told her that I did not see any need to do so. And this is what she said, "it is your achievement, adding it to your resume is not bragging."

femi4:
A wrong assertion. Even some 2.1 graduate don't remember to include it.

Unless your employer specified that it must be on your CV, it is not mandatory

How many forget that? You think removing/forgetting the grade will sell you better initially than including it? If you forget that maybe you don't deserve the 2.1.

I have seen many CV formats, attended cv writing sessions even as a student and how it has changed over the past 20 years plus. From including age, nationality and not including them. From including all qualifications/degrees to not including if attained over ten years earlier unless crucial to the job you seek, etc.

You could say nothing is mandatory. You can also write just your name and address and post. And wait for prospective employer to call you because you have made them curious with that. And they now have a burning desire to know your degree course, school, profile, aspirations, goals, etc.

AreaFada2:
How many forget that? You think removing/forgetting the grade will sell you better initially than including it? If you forget that maybe you don't deserve the 2.1.

I have seen many CV formats, attended cv writing sessions even as a student and how it has changed over the past 20 years plus. From including age, nationality and not including them. From including all qualifications/degrees to not including if attained over ten years earlier unless crucial to the job you seek, etc.

You could say nothing is mandatory. You can also write just your name and address and post. And wait for prospective employer to call you because you have made them curious with that. And they now have a burning desire to know your degree course, school, profile, aspirations, goals, etc.

Perhaps it ll be better for you argue about what you know. Not all organisations love paper work, some of them do request you fill an online CV format where the classes of degree options are just "Distinction" and "Second class". No column for even your actual grade.

In CV writing, we know those stuffs that are mandatory, and definitely stating your type of second class is not one of them.

Human resources are more concerned about your vision, authenticity of your certificates and results irrespective of your class and your ability to meet their set goals.

In Nigeria, emloyer required for specified age, grade, location and other factors to reduce the no of application received

Damn!! nah to smoke Cigar sure pass since someone cannot make living out of 2.2 or even 3rd class...Nigeria has lost its value.. I just pray for God's direction so that I will own a company where people will be judged by what they know and not what they read

I have a dream
I yam stubbornman

I had closed this page after reading a few comments but I couldnt help it but reopen the page just to say ....what an extremely stupid question this is!

AreaFada2:
Every idiot and his dog know that when people omit 2.1 from Second class grade, it automatically means 2.2.
No exception.

When you're given a chance to come for an interview, it's not because you fooled your prospective employer.

Leave the Joneses..HR practioners always grin when they receive CVs with no grades. Most end up in the bin. If you have ever wondered why you don't get called for interviews... This is the reason. Better to call someone who is confident of his grade than to call those who have something to hide...

All these law makers in the country and even the great guyz we see and here of today, did they use their first class to get there? Have even seen a third class graduate working with an oil company in this our own very country and u are here talking about 2:2 graduates and their omission on CV. Gerara here!

ethene:
I have really observed this trend, especially with people that graduated with a 2.2 grades and below, they would smartly omit their grades when preparing their CVs. For instance a 2.2 graduate is most likely to write "second class (honors)" instead of "second class honors (lower division)" on his CV. My question is why is this so? Since if eventually u are being called for interview u would definitely be asked. I believe recruiters would most likely sideline ur application because of this omission. What do u think?

I've include that in my cv severally ND not even 2.2 bt third class ND I was still called for interviews. Don't forget that God said I will have mercy on who I will have mercy on. It's not by grade bt by God's mercy

The reason I think is simple. Those are about the best and the most dynamic sets of graduates that can survive in their own.some as a result of their level of IQ while others are those that were struggling with both academics and means of livelihood while in school. So they have thick skin and can withstand any pressure at work.

funarosho:
I've include that in my cv severally ND not even 2.2 bt third class ND I was still called for interviews. Don't forget that God said I will have mercy on who I will have mercy on. It's not by grade bt by God's mercy

May Almighty Godbless you and I this morning for this your comment. See the breakdown of what you just said.
" if God is no respecter of any man definitely he is bound to show mercy to whomever he so desires" so the prayer that has been working for me is that God have mercy on me I am hopeless and see if it doesn't work. Na one of my orijo I give you soooooo.

femi4:
Perhaps it ll be better for you argue about what you know. Not all organisations love paper work, some of them do request you fill an online CV format where the classes of degree options are just "Distinction" and "Second class". No column for even your actual grade.

In CV writing, we know those stuffs that are mandatory, and definitely stating your type of second class is not one of them.

Human resources are more concerned about your vision, authenticity of your certificates and results irrespective of your class and your ability to meet their set goals.

In Nigeria, emloyer required for specified age, grade, location and other factors to reduce the no of application received

if that is the case why the lamentation of many 2.2 graduates here and outside here?
It does not matter which format the cv takes, online or hard copy, it is still CV. And anyone confident of his grade will include it. A friend of mine from UK top university, with a 2.2, with internship experience and more, never even got the chance to state his vision.

All his 2.1 and 1.1 fellow graduates with less internship or none were interviewed with most employed or even selecting which offer to accept. He only got to work in a multinational after MSc.

In 9ja we know that anything goes depending on long leg.

Op, from your post I sense your biasedness towards graduates with 2.2. is graduating with 2.2 c a crime biko?

AreaFada2:
Fact is there are many people chasing few jobs. Grade is initial screening tool to avoid a deluge of of applications.

95% of the time, your intellect will reflect in your grade. Of course, bereavement, financial worries and so on can negatively affect grade.

Except you're applying for woodwork, iron bender, rewire and so on. Whereby your strength lies in your manual skills.

I beg to disagree.. this classes or grades actually do not make make sense, at least to a large extent.

You call someone that finished with a 3.49 a second class lower student and label him "dull" or "less intelligent "

You then call someone that finished with a 3.50 a second class upper student and label him a more intelligent fellow.

You refuse to give the former a job because of your assumption, while you give the latter a job because of your assumption.

The first thing to note is that the difference between these two is insignicant and putting them in different class doesn't make sense at all.

It is very possible that the guy with 3.49 is actually a better student depending on the difficulty of his course of study, strictness of the examiners, human error while marking his scripts, the conditions of learning in his school environment .. etc.. in order words basing your decision on absolute figures can be misleading, factors that could determine a good grade should always be put into concern.

What most employers do is like investing in a company simply because it has a higher profit than other companies, without taking into consideration factors that could have led to the higher profit (like the weighted average number of shares used to generate the profit and other capital).

All in all, those classes are meaningless as they ascribe an ability to a person based on historical conditions, you should employ people based on what they are now or who they are now, not who they are 7 years ago.

So I totally disagree with you that 95% of the time, your grade shows your intelligence, that's too false.