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I'll give siasia benefit of doubt and assume your position on present happenings with the dream team...

Hope wont be disappointed...

Mickael2:
Your own errors are there too. I said when it came to the most important game, Savic was picked ahead of Gimenez because of experience. Atletico has played Real Madrid 2 times already prior to that game this past season and Ronaldo didn't score even once although he was fit then, so you are now saying that a Ronaldo who is just returning from injury can do what a fit Ronaldo could not do? Savic was choosen because he could keep a cool head in such situations and cool heads come with experience so you see my point?

Pepe is not even close to being fast. I don't know if you watch these games but he is not fast, that's why Varane has been ahead of him in the pecking order for most parts of the season. And oh,when you choose a player above the other, you will have to adjust your formation, which is what Simeone did. I mean Carrasco has already played as a support striker before, just that Griezman moved into Torres' role as the main CF, heck during the beginning of the season when Torres was rotting on the bench, Carrasco/Martinez were the ones playing there! And you do realize that when Carrasco entered the pitch, Griezman moved out wide and their formation changed to a 4-3-3, now do you think that they couldn't have started the game with a 4-3-3 all along?

Kovacic came to Madrid before Zidane became the first team coach. It was Benitez who hired him. Mancini was playing him out of position because he favoured other experienced guys there. And this is Inter Milan, they can hang on to their players if they want so it's not as if it's Sporting Gijon

Icon4s:
Well ur 2 cents are well appreciated here.

We do not doubt Siasia's technical competence and tactics. What we have been against is his choice of players.

Starting with ur point of d players being too young to handle d busy off season. This is the same period the U20 WC is also played. If U20 players can handle featuring for their clubs all year round and playing d U20 WC in summer what more can u say abt U23 players hu are full professionals and senior national team players already. They can cope my brother.

Going back to team selection u jst mention Awaziem and Madu to b d first on d list Bt i can tell u it is Oduduwa and Amuzie that are first on Siasia's list. You rate Awaziem so highly bt Siasia would pick Oduduwa 10times before thinking of Awaziem. He will also pick Amuzie 10 times before considering Madu.

You made mention of Ndidi as d prefered DMF choice right? Bt Siasia would pick Azubuike 10times before considering Ndidi.

He prefers nt to invite players that will b competition to "his boys".

That is just what we have against him, Siasia.

Icon4s:
Siasia's adopted CFs abi.

With this two as our CF to d Olympic we will nt qualify from dat grp.

We had these two guys as CF at CAF U23 and yet Etebor was our major goals threat.

TheGoodJoe:

Whether Savic kept a cool head, whether Ronaldo did not score before, from his performance that night, he was the better choice, not most experienced. It is about the better choice. Simeone felt Savic was the better choice and played him.

Zidane was a technical director to Florentino Perez, the President of Real Madrid. So if you think Benitez was the man behind the buying decisions, you are wrong. Zidane admires Kovacic and Real Madrid decided to get him. He was a good addition and fits the current passing midfield theme of Real Madrid. Qualities you see in Casemiro, Modric and Toni Kroos.

Zidane plays a big part in Madrid. That is why despite his experience in coaching top football, Perez gave him the nod to coach the team.

Mickael2:
You got it all wrong. They are not support strikers, they are inverted wingers, still wingers. Cr7 has a free role in Madrid, that's why you see him there but even then you can see him cutting inside and shooting, that's why he is called an inverted winger, otherwise known as a winger playing on his weaker foot so he can cut in and score. Robben is also an inverted winger, Ribbery also but they are not support strikers, a support striker is hardly ever used in a 4-3-3 because it reduces the width that can be utilized

TheGoodJoe:

I am still yet to understand Del Bosque dropping Juanfran of Atletico Madrid on the bench at the last World Cup for Arbeloa. Like, what was he thinking. Maybe Tiki Taka things.

TheGoodJoe:

Coach Siasia tried in both Egypt games and took a lot of risk. There was no time at all to experiment, train and screen the best players.

At that time, you go with the regular National team players because they understand themselves.

Mickael2:
and we will arrive at the same point yet again. Judging by precedents Gimenez would have definetly started, he was the best defender in their semifinal against Bayern Munich, he was performing consistently but when it happened Savic was chosen because he could do the job which was keep a cool head and defend well which comes with experience but lets agree to disagree.

I don't know much about Madrid's system but I thought Zidane was the B-team coach before he became the first team coach? Just curious but i do not know much about that aspect so maybe you are right there

Mickael2:
don't fret yet, he will definetly do something worse this year. Maybe he will play with 6 midfielders in a game again, he thinks that football is not dynamic, well if he succeds we will call him a genius sha

TheGoodJoe:

Why are the wingers inverted? So they shoot instead of crossing. Inverted wingers are tagged (Left Wing Forwards) that forwards is because they strike more than crossing. Wingers play with their natural wings on the touch line to cross.

The reason why someone like Messi, CR7, Neymar, Bale play a kind of free role is because they are not restricted to stay on the wing.

To explain it further, with one support striker in the four four two formation, the Support striker has a FREE ROLE, compared to the out an out striker.

In a four three three formation, the inverted wingers are actually support strikers with free roles too.

So you can not say because Success plays on the wings, he can not strike. Neymar strikes for Brazil even in recent games.

So if Neymar and Messi can strikez how can Success not strike?

TheGoodJoe:
He is a genius and I praise Zidane for his humility to go and understudy Guardiola at Bayern. That was a huge step.

I also see what you said coming. The 3-6-1 formation coming. It is a big risk but it might succeed. I am waiting for it.

But, what was he thinking when he took out Toni Kroos for Isco. The midfield crumbled after that and Toni Kroos had the highest passing accuracy in that match.

Mickael2:
they are tagged WF to differentiate them from traditional SMF ie side midfielders which are the conventional wingers we know. They still do cross the ball just that their foremost function is to cut it and shoot.like their name entails, left wing forwards are wingers as much as they are forwards, Neymar plays as a support striker because 9 times out of 10, during a game, Barca's formation changes to 4-1-2-1-2, that's when Messi enters the middle and becomes the extra midfielder, at that point Alba and Alves the fullbacks are now the ones providing width, Neymar joins Suarez in the middle and the formation changes entirely so it alters the wings they are playing infact. Ronaldo has a free role so we can't really judge there but look at Bale, a true WF in a rigid 4-3-3, he is a true winger, he crosses and shoots, you hardly see him close to the box waiting for a chance to poach, that's the perfect definition of a WF there

Mickael2:
I swear eh! When they made that change, Nepa took our light which they graciously gave us that day after almost a week, so before I could on my gen they had already made the change. When I saw Isco I thought Bale got injured and had to leave because Isco could play as a winger too, but when I saw Bale i started rejoicing. The middle opened up entirely, it was clear that Modric was now tired, i think he was the player with the second most number of minutes for Madrid all season so I can't blame him and I wanted Madrid to lose too, and if Atletico had maintained that thesame intensity after they scored they would have won that game in normal time infact. That was very very poor. Do you know who his assistant manager is there?

Mickael2:
I swear eh! When they made that change, Nepa took our light which they graciously gave us that day after almost a week, so before I could on my gen they had already made the change. When I saw Isco I thought Bale got injured and had to leave because Isco could play as a winger too, but when I saw Bale i started rejoicing. The middle opened up entirely, it was clear that Modric was now tired, i think he was the player with the second most number of minutes for Madrid all season so I can't blame him and I wanted Madrid to lose too, and if Atletico had maintained that thesame intensity after they scored they would have won that game in normal time infact. That was very very poor. Do you know who his assistant manager is there?

Mickael2:
I swear eh! When they made that change, Nepa took our light which they graciously gave us that day after almost a week, so before I could on my gen they had already made the change. When I saw Isco I thought Bale got injured and had to leave because Isco could play as a winger too, but when I saw Bale i started rejoicing. The middle opened up entirely, it was clear that Modric was now tired, i think he was the player with the second most number of minutes for Madrid all season so I can't blame him and I wanted Madrid to lose too, and if Atletico had maintained that thesame intensity after they scored they would have won that game in normal time infact. That was very very poor. Do you know who his assistant manager is there?

TheGoodJoe:

By the way, I will pay my humble respect to Toni Kroos. In history, the true best players are mostly overlooked by the flashy attacking players.

Pirlo who was a big part of AC Milan who reached three Champions League finals and won two. Kaka go the praises but Pirlo proved his magic when he was the inspiring force that led Italy to the 2006 World Cup triumph.

Xavi: Who was part of the Spanish conquering Nigeria '99 squad and was part of the Spanish team that lost the Olympics finals to Cameroon in 2000.

He was part of the Rijkaard's Barcelona winning squad, a crucial part of the Guardiola dominating Barcelona that won the Champions League twice. He was a multiple league title winner and won the world Cup and Euros with Spain.

Messi got the praises but Xavi was the thread that held them together.

Toni Kroos: Looks the next in line to take over these great pass masters. He was part of the Bayern team that lost two Champions League finals, to Inter Milan and Chelsea. Part of the winning Bayern side of Heynckes and has won two Champions league with Real Madrid.

He also won the Euros and the World Cup. Statistics of the official statistics crew picked Toni Kroos as the best player of the World Cup.

Messi and CR7 might get most praises but deep in the midfield, there is a marshal who is the best.

I salute Toni Kroos.

Before these men was Zidane, Now we have Toni Kroos who will be next? Kelechi Nwakali?

TheGoodJoe:


I do not know him. David Bettoni. He played in the Ligue 1 of France and worked with Zidane with the Real Madrid reserves.

Zidane might know him from his French playing days.

Mickael2:
Kelechi Nwakali didn't cut it for me exactly, but maybe that's because I am judging him as a 20 year old rather than as a 17 year old which he is.

You couldn't be more correct. Xavi should have won the Balon D'Or in 2010, by July he had already completed 1000 passes that year, damn he was way too good. Then like you aptly mentioned Pirlo. He took Juve to last year's final but Madrid tabled a 70m offer for Pogba instead, now Pirlo is gone and Pogba could do nothing. If not for Dybala who stepped up during their slump Juventus would have left empty handed. Almost every Champions league winning team has their own workhorse who is almost always underated, Scholes, Mikel for Chelsea in 2012(Yes!) and so many others. It is only when you look at a game tactically that you appreciate their efforts really

TheSuperNerd:
I don't know whether to be glad or sad or worried.. kinda mixed feelings though... really mixed.

Siasia's chief defensive minister will not be at Rio 2016.

To be honest, he isn't our best defender or even among our top 5 AVAILABLE central defensive options at this level. He's a decent defender but his defensive skillset is not on par with the Ekongs, Awaziems, Osedes, Ndidis (Siasia will not play Ndidi in midfield with Azubuike around), etc at this level. I like Oduduwa okay... but I like (TOP) MERITS BETTER.

So his missing out is not really a worry for me BUT here lies my worry: "Siasia's choice of a replacement" and Oduduwa's career.... **ironic right?**

QUESTION: WHO WILL SIASIA CALL UP?? WHO WILL TAKE ODUDUWA'S PLACE?? COZ SIASIA ALREADY HAD THIS GUY PENCILLED DOWN AS THE FIRST NAME FOR OUR U-23 DEFENCE IN RIO.

Get well soon Segun Oduduwa... but I will be frank... I still don't think Oduduwa would have had a prayer of making Rio had Siasia called up all our top available CB options at this level... I know if Siasia is fair, Oduduwa may not make it. But for this injury, it's clear he was already Rio-bound despite all our analyses here... this is a delicate matter. And I do not want to be misunderstood

(questions like, "if Segun was your brother nko?? Won't you want him in Rio?" is not healthy at all.... I STAND WITH MERITS AT ALL TIMES... MY SIBLINGS KNOW ME TOO WELL... THAT'S WHY I TELL THEM... IT'S EITHER YOU ARE THE VERY BEST OR AMONG THE BEST... nothing less... I don't do favoritism).

Wishing Segun Oduduwa speedy recovery....
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Nigeria U23 star Oduduwa out of Rio Olympics - official


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Segun Oduduwa (no.6) vs Congo.



Nigeria U23 defender Segun Oduduwa has been effectively ruled out of the 2016 Rio Olympics as he will be sidelined for at least eight months after he dislocated his knee in training with the national team last week.



Sports ministry’s medical director Abdulkadir Muazu said Oduduwa will be out for a minimum of eight months after he and several top officials visited the player at his hotel room in Abuja Wednesday.


Muazu was the ministry’s delegation led by permanent secretary Christian Oha who visited the injured player to assure him that the federal government will ensure he receives the best treatment as he suffered the injury while on national service.


Oduduwa from Nath Boys FC of Lagos has been an integral part of the Dream Team VI as they won the U23 AFCON in Senegal in December and also finished third at last year’s All Africa Games in Congo Brazzaville.


The highly-rated central defender was dropped from this week’s trip to an invitational tournament in South Korea on account of the injury.


Source: http://africanfootball.com/mobi/mobi.php?page=article&ID=629806

terzurum5:
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Kingsley Madu, Moses Simon & Wilfred Ndidi on Tottenham radar
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By Shina Oludare

The Lilywhites are hoping to sign the youngsters having instructed their scouts to keep track of the trio in Wednesday’s international friendly

Tottenham Hotspur are keeping close tabs on Nigerian youngsters Kingsley Madu, Moses Simon and Wilfred Ndidi ahead of next season.


The club scouts watched the trio in action during Nigeria’s 3-1 win over Luxembourg on Tuesday night, and they were second half substitutes for Yusuf Salisu’s men at the Josy Barthel Stadium.


19-year-old Ndidi features for KRC Gent in the Belgian Pro League and has a contract until 2020, while Simon who boasts of six international caps for Nigeria remains a player of KAA Gent till 2019.

Madu who will clock 21 years by December is a player of Slovakia’s AS Trenčín.
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Mickael2:
Please o, these boys should stay where they are. These English guy's are pure racists, even if Ndidi turns out to be better than Eric Dier, he won't start ahead of him because he is English, same goes for Madu since their two fullbacks are also English, please remain where you are and develop further we still need you. Move to a team in Spain if you must,they don't segregate over there.

Icon4s:
Bros i dont agree.

Let dem go to spurs. If they are good enough dey will break into d Spurs team.

Iheanacho and Iwobi broke through.
If this trio are as good as most of us here portray dem to b then dey shouldn't have problems breaking into d Spurs squad.

Icon4s:
Bros i dont agree.

Let dem go to spurs. If they are good enough dey will break into d Spurs team.

Iheanacho and Iwobi broke through.
If this trio are as good as most of us here portray dem to b then dey shouldn't have problems breaking into d Spurs squad.