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Joagbaje:
Yes you're right but we don't just lay hand at random. God has to speak . Several folk were at the pool ,Jesus only healed one and left the place .




As I said above he was lead. God leads . He shows you then you do.

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

So what is God telling u about this poor boy now
Keep dodging. I did not expect any better from you.
Frauds (not saying u are one ) are easy to spot with just simple, clear, open challenges like this. They will always have excuses while trying to package their escape so as not to seem to be running away.

As I said, your answers have been very helpful in proving that I say the truth. Thanks a lot for the verification

HardMirror:
Of cos u are not lying. Christians are ready to die for their faith, same with muslims, same with Jews, same with hindus.

Read and comprehend, I never said they will deny their faith. That is not what this thread is about. It is about choosing to trust God to protect u from a physical means of death or a spiritual means of death. Hope u understand now.

Don't speak for Christians . Some chose to be delivered some chose to die some chose resurrection .

Hebrews 11:35
And some women, through faith, received their loved ones back again from death. But others trusted God and were beaten to death, preferring to die rather than turn from God and be free--trusting that they would rise to a better life afterwards.

Joagbaje:
Nothing to expose . God and miracles are real. Your questions were not applicable to me. Supposing I ask you what would you prefer to steal . Choose between bread and chin chin. I believe it will be childish question for you. You're not a thief to start with .



I have several documented videos of healing . That particular case was explained . Don't derail your thread

You have several videos of heals to prove they are real.
I have several videos to prove spiderman is real.

You mean videos produced to deceive the unsuspecting public.
Was your fake HIV healing not on video too? When investigated by a neutral person was the scam not exposed?
Go and pray for this poor boy who has no eyes no thanks to wicked men who removed them. Then see how all atheist around the world will quiver. We still have atheists and other religions because all christianity has to offer are lies.
If God heals this boy, before the week runs out nigeria will be 90% christians, but for where? The scammers will never go near a real life situation.

Joagbaje:
Don't speak for Christians . Some chose to die some chose resurrection .

Hebrews 11:35
And some women, through faith, received their loved ones back again from death. But others trusted God and were beaten to death, preferring to die rather than turn from God and be free--trusting that they would rise to a better life afterwards.

Will you choose to be shot in the head or choose to be killed using spiritual means? Simple question. U keep beating about the bush.

Here is a blind boy pray for his restoration. Simple task. U keep beating about the bush.

Yet people say atheists are living in denial. Denial of what? Of a God that does not exist?
Even the God's followers don't trust him.

HardMirror:
Of cos u are not lying. Christians are ready to die for their faith, same with muslims, same with Jews, same with hindus.

Read and comprehend, I never said they will deny their faith. That is not what this thread is about. It is about choosing to trust God to protect u from a physical means of death or a spiritual means of death. Hope u understand now.

so what is the difference ? If you proclaim christ at the point of death and trusting on God against any physical mean, what's the difference ? I trust God with ALL my heart, and when the time comes to prove this, by his grace I will.

malvisguy212:
in 2001, during the religion crisis in kaduna, the muslims attack a christian man with bible on his hand, they command him to renounce his faith, but he refuse. Because the muslims people know him as a peaceful man, so they command him to throw away his bible and run, still the man refuse, one of the muslim cut him with knife, till he died. If you live in kaduna during the religion crisis, I tell you the truth, you will not open this thread. It is by God grace am alive today. If you think am lying, ask anyone who has stay in kaduna, ask him , what happen in riggasa.

Awsome . The world is full of many such testimonies

malvisguy212:
so what is the difference ? If you proclaim christ at the point of death and trusting on God against any physical mean, what's the difference ? I trust God with ALL my heart, and when the time comes to prove this, by his grace I will.

So which would u choose. The bullet or charm?

HardMirror:
So which would u choose. The bullet or charm?

NONE

malvisguy212:
NONE

Good answer.

HardMirror:
Good answer.

alright.

HardMirror:
You have several videos of heals to prove they are real.
I have several videos to prove spiderman is real.

You know you cant prove spider man is real. But I can prove miracles are real .

You mean videos produced to deceive the unsuspecting public.
Was your fake HIV healing not on video too? When investigated by a neutral person was the scam not exposed?

The guy I prayed for in the video recieved healing .

Go and pray for this poor boy who has no eyes no thanks to wicked men who removed them. Then see how all atheist around the world will quiver. We still have atheists and other religions because all christianity has to offer are lies.

We have more than enough video evidence of the power of God . Umbelief is a demonic desease . Those who don't believe . Even if the boy receive a miracle they will claim he was not really blind. Even in the bible .

Luke 16:30-31
"He said, 'No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' "He said to him, 'If they don't listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.'"

If God heals this boy, before the week runs out nigeria will be 90% christians, but for where? The scammers will never go near a real life situation.

It's not true. Even when Jesus healed a man blind from birth whom they all knew . They still Attacked the parents doubting if he was really blind .

By the time the parents proved he was healed by christ they still didn't believe in him they give the glory to God Jesus is a sinner .

Joagbaje:
You know you cant prove spider man is real. But I can prove miracles are real .



The guy I prayed for in the video recieved healing .



We have more than enough video evidence of the power of God . Umbelief is a demonic desease . Those who don't believe . Even if the boy receive a miracle they will claim he was not really blind. Even in the bible .

Luke 16:30-31
"He said, 'No, father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' "He said to him, 'If they don't listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.'"







It's not true. Even when Jesus healed a man blind from birth whom they all knew . They still Attacked the parents doubting if he was really blind .

By the time the parents proved he was healed by christ they still didn't believe in him they give the glory to God Jesus is a sinner .

Bible is only story.
Go and heal this boy I am sure all atheist here are with me on this. We will believe you.

HardMirror:
So what is God telling u about this poor boy now

The boy is not my responsibility. The gospel is my responsibility. If you believe , come and you have a miracle . I don't need to try to convince you by contest . When you need a miracle you will believe .

There's a testimony I'm on to . Now . A girl was brought to me having typhoid . While praying for her . A demon began to talk how he entered her through food (black egg) given to her in a dream by her friend 7years ago . He said they are to Tommment her for 9 years then kill her . She has 2more years to live . He even mentioned the name of the friend who they used as agent . I cast the demon out . She was healed .

Now listen . She confirmed she had Ben sick for 7 years . I mentioned to her about the black egg . She was shocked . I mentioned to her the name of the friend , she was shocked as though I'm one special prophet . But I captured the ministration on iPad . (Someone helped record ). I then gave her the video to watch . She was in tears . She confirmed everything . She's healed .

The challenge now is that the parent don't want her to attend CEC . They were Muslim then became cac but to commited . The girl was beaten by the dad . I told her to keep coming but I sent two elderly people to the parents to allow her come to church but give me one month . If this girl fall sick within one month she can stop coming to church . They agreed we are counting . But i am lead to stand my ground for such . They knew how much they spent for 7 years . If she allow me I will post the videos . And I believe If theparents see that it's true by the end of the month they will come and testify . And I will document it .

Joagbaje:
The boy is not my responsibility. The gospel is my responsibility. If you believe , come and you have a miracle . I don't need to try to convince you by contest . When you need a miracle you will believe .

There's a testimony I'm on to . Now . A girl was brought to me having typhoid . While praying for her . A demon began to talk how he entered her through food (black egg) given to her in a dream by her friend 7years ago . He said they are to Tommment her for 9 years then kill her . She has 2more years to live . He even mentioned the name of the friend who they used as agent . I cast the demon out . She was healed .

Now listen . She confirmed she had Ben sick for 7 years . I mentioned to her about the black egg . She was shocked . I mentioned to her the name of the friend , she was shocked as though I'm one special prophet . But I captured the ministration on iPad . (Someone helped record ). I then gave her the video to watch . She was in tears . She confirmed everything . She's healed .

The challenge now is that the parent don't want her to attend CEC . They were Muslim then became cac but to commited . The girl was beaten by the dad . I told her to keep coming but I sent two elderly people to the parents to allow her come to church but give me one month . If this girl fall sick within one month she can stop coming to church . They agreed we are counting . But i am lead to stand my ground for such . They knew how much they spent for 7 years . If she allow me I will post the videos . And I believe If theparents see that it's true by the end of the month they will come and testify . And I will document it .

Nice story. Fitting for nollywood.
Of cos u will see it a contest instead of helping the boy. I was not expecting anything serious from u anyway. You can't give what u don't have.

HardMirror:
Bible is only story.

Well that' is foudation. Believe it . It will work for you

Go and heal this boy I am sure all atheist here are with me on this.

Matthew 16:1-4
The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. -- He answered and said unto them. . .A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

We will believe you.

the bible says you won't . You will call it Pelebo effect or .. Abi it's placebo they call it .

Joagbaje:
Well that' is foudation. Believe it . It will work for you



Matthew 16:1-4
The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. -- He answered and said unto them. . .A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.




the bible says you won't . You will call it Pelebo effect or .. Abi it's placebo they call it .

Don't do it for me, do it for the boy.

HardMirror:
Nice story. Fitting for Hollywood.

You're welcome to come and verify it . Even in 2 month or 2 years time . You will see the proof that the 7 year consistent infirmity never show up from the day I prayed for her.

Of cos u will see it a contest instead of helping the boy.

Why not if I'm led to.

I was not expecting anything serious from u anyway. You can't give what u don't have.

Neither would christ whom I follow . We do what' the father say do .

HardMirror:
Don't do it for me, do it for the boy.

There are 3 sides of responsibility to healing . Firstly God ,The man of God or the reciever . If the reciever is not in a position to have faith , then someone close like parents or loved ones .

The God part . He supply ability as we pray ,he leads and direct how we should minister . he could heal without even our consent .

The minister can either minister by gift or by faith if the gift is not working . But he must have enough faith for the particular case .

The reciever must have faith in the power or someone close to him can take such responsibility .

Now for this case .I don't know the boy . You are the one who knows the boy. Someone has to take responsibility of faith . But you that should have been the Simeone don't even believe .

Joagbaje:
There are 3 sides of responsibility to healing . Firstly God ,The man of God or the reciever . If the reciever is not in a position to have faith , then someone close like parents or loved ones .

The God part . He supply ability as we pray ,he leads and direct how we should minister . he could heal without even our consent .

The minister can either minister by gift or by faith if the gift is not working . But he must have enough faith for the particular case .

The reciever must have faith in the power or someone close to him can take such responsibility .

Now for this case .I don't know the boy . You are the one who knows the boy. Someone has to take responsibility of faith . But you that should have been the Simeone don't even believe .

Have you read John chapter 9?

Jesus did not ask for his faith.

HardMirror:
Have you read John chapter 9?

What does it say?

Jesus did not ask for his faith.

Remember there's God part, minister part and recipient part. If the three elements are present It will be a bomb . But this case the man was there for a miracle . And Jesus simply yielded to the father instruction .

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Joagbaje:
What does it say?



Remember there's God part, minister part and recipient part. If the three elements are present It will be a bomb . But this case the man was there for a miracle . And Jesus simply yielded to the father instruction .

John 5:19
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

God is telling me that he has instructed u to pray for that boy so I believe

HardMirror:
God is telling me that he has instructed u to pray for that boy so I believe

That will be great . Are you saying you believe in God now

Joagbaje:
That will be great . Are you saying you believe in God now

Glad you are confirming what God is telling me. Let's get to it already Enough of the dilly dallying

Joagbaje:
The boy is not my responsibility. The gospel is my responsibility. If you believe , come and you have a miracle . I don't need to try to convince you by contest . When you need a miracle you will believe .

There's a testimony I'm on to . Now . A girl was brought to me having typhoid . While praying for her . A demon began to talk how he entered her through food (black egg) given to her in a dream by her friend 7years ago . He said they are to Tommment her for 9 years then kill her . She has 2more years to live . He even mentioned the name of the friend who they used as agent . I cast the demon out . She was healed .

Now listen . She confirmed she had Ben sick for 7 years . I mentioned to her about the black egg . She was shocked . I mentioned to her the name of the friend , she was shocked as though I'm one special prophet . But I captured the ministration on iPad . (Someone helped record ). I then gave her the video to watch . She was in tears . She confirmed everything . She's healed .

The challenge now is that the parent don't want her to attend CEC . They were Muslim then became cac but to commited . The girl was beaten by the dad . I told her to keep coming but I sent two elderly people to the parents to allow her come to church but give me one month . If this girl fall sick within one month she can stop coming to church . They agreed we are counting . But i am lead to stand my ground for such . They knew how much they spent for 7 years . If she allow me I will post the videos . And I believe If theparents see that it's true by the end of the month they will come and testify . And I will document it .

Thank God for using you mightily sir. But the question of the boy not being your responsibility to me is way too mean. Nawa o... If you can do something do... (Jesus looked at them at had compassion... borrow a little compassion sir) humanity is your responsibility biko. If not say so and shame the devil.

Joagbaje:
I can't be kidnapped na. If they do I will cast the demon out of them and lead them to christ.

For real you'll do what you say? That's not Christianly na. Did you forget that Jesus was kidnapped and led like a sheep to be slaughtered? Don't you think Jesus wants you to be like him? At least if you die you'll go straight to heaven.

lepasharon:
Nice one. Deep down Christians don't really belief in god. They pray just in case. In a desperate situation, they pray and hope someone is out there listening.

God is just an illusion, its just in your head.
Your heart is your religion and God combined.
This world is controlled by many forces, God just happens to be one of them, the rest also have say you know

If God solves problems and prayer is the key then by now with the amount of pastors, imams, churches and mosques, Nigeria's situation would have change for good by now.

As my friend above said, fear MEN and not GOD, because men pull triggers from guns and not God.

What is dead may never die...

Joagbaje:
That will be great . Are you saying you believe in God now

Of cos I do. Are u saying u are ready to lay hands on this boy and get his eyes back?

otemanuduno:
For real you'll do what you say? That's not Christianly na. Did you forget that Jesus was kidnapped and led like a sheep to be slaughtered? Don't you think Jesus wants you to be like him? At least if you die you'll go straight to heaven.

It's still a choice . I am more valuable to God alive than at death . He needs me alive now . So I have to do all I can to keep myself alive just like christ . He escaped many times until he made sure he fulfilled and finish his ministry

Joagbaje:
It's still a choice . I am more valuable to God alive than at death . He needs me alive now . So I have to do all I can to keep myself alive just like christ. He escaped many times until he made sure he fulfilled and finish his ministry

At the bolded, can you as well lie to keep yourself alive?

otemanuduno:
At the bolded, can you as well lie to keep yourself alive?

I don't have to

HardMirror:
Of cos I do.
Are u saying u are ready to lay hands on this boy and get his eyes back?

Nice ones. That even reminds me . The Admision into the healing school is on in lagos