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Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Nobody: 8:19am On Jun 07, 2016
Horlufemi:


You no get work?
Help me ask him! Don't you know he is a' church worker'? Abi you no want make he chop? undecided
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 8:36am On Jun 07, 2016
Sarang:


nop since it is just a computer.
But Jehovah's witnesses do in more than 400 lands.

Baptists conducts corresspondence bible study via the internet (am a beneficiary). Why can't the watchtower do the same?

Are you guys in iran and afghanistan yet?
What about Russia and Bulgaria where your work is restricted?

If the governing body know that the preaching work has not gotten to the ends of the world, why are the predicting the end of the world?
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by goodnewscliff(m): 9:06am On Jun 07, 2016
Trina0936:

Sorry you can't convert me. I have known JW since I was born even have one as a colleague right now. The only thing I always found interesting are the awake and watchtower magazines. Look for gullible people thanks! undecided
at least our magazines can be very educative...u jst attested to dat fact....d bible is not jst a spiritual book....it is scientific harmonous, historical accurate,helps in our day to day planning, gives practical wisdom, fortells d future and many more...it could be a funny book few times to me.....jst read and try to understand and b reasonable...it will lead u to d right path....

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Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by goodnewscliff(m): 9:21am On Jun 07, 2016
paulGrundy:


Baptists conducts corresspondence bible study via the internet (am a beneficiary). Why can't the watchtower do the same?

Are you guys in iran and afghanistan yet?
What about Russia and Bulgaria where your work is restricted?

If the governing body know that the preaching work has not gotten to the ends of the world, why are the predicting the end of the world?
hmmmm....do u knw our magazines(watchtower and awake) are the number 1 world most distrubuted book.....and dat when it comes to house to house preaching method, we are unmatched...not bragging though..but a salient fact....we have had more dan 52 court cases and all has been won...we dont lose any court case and irrespective of the fact that adolf hitler of germany made a solemn promise to wipe out jehovahs witness from the surface of the earth becos we didnt join in WAR COULDNOT although he killed many jehovahs witness and jailed us, he could not despite his worthless effort, we number more than eight million today worldwide....weve made progress through jehovahs support

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Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Nobody: 9:27am On Jun 07, 2016
goodnewscliff:
at least our magazines can be very educative...u jst attested to dat fact....d bible is not jst a spiritual book....it is scientific harmonous, historical accurate,helps in our day to day planning, gives practical wisdom, fortells d future and many more...it could be a funny book few times to me.....jst read and try to understand and b reasonable...it will lead u to d right path....
Any denomination can decide to create their own educative magazines and my own denomination have several educative books too. I have my own bible just not anything similar with your version of the bible.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by goodnewscliff(m): 9:35am On Jun 07, 2016
paulGrundy:


Pyramidology. Watchtower 1914 teaching (which is still believed till today) propounded by Russell has its root to pyramidology a free masonary and pagan teaching. Russell even attributes his knowledge on pyramids to Smyth (a free masonary leader).

"Here, thanks to the very accurate measurements of all the passages, furnished by Prof. Smyth, we are enabled to reach what to us are by far the most interesting features of the testimony of this "Witness" yet delivered." Studies In the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.338

"Prof. Smyth found the first of these measures (a) to be 1874 Pyramid inches, the second (b), 1881 Pyramid inches, and the third (c), 1910 Pyramid inches; Thus reduced, they would give the dates (a) October, 1874, (b) October, 1881 and (c) October, 1910 A.D." Studies In the Scriptures Series III - Thy Kingdom Come p.363



Is that enough? Should I provide more?
hmmmm.....do u knw we celebrated xmas and new year b4, we did smoke and stuff....as time goes on things changed as we understood the bible more,as GOD CHANGED THE MOSAIC LAW to law of christ....mind u, jehovahs witness do nt believe in ur pyramid watever u dug(copy and pasted) dat from....we make d bible our guidance.....aside 4rm been a witness, if u can prove from ur bible that hellfire is real, i will believe u....but wat if u cant...u see dis nt just abt a religion or a person...BUT IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS...THE BIBLE IS WHAT WE FOLLOW NOT A PERSON

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Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by MizJanet(f): 10:05am On Jun 07, 2016
I like Jwitness people for one thing , they hav never cme to my door screamin the fictional hellfire empire like other nuisance. And they are decent
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 10:11am On Jun 07, 2016
goodnewscliff:
hmmmm.....do u knw we celebrated xmas and new year b4, we did smoke and stuff....as time goes on things changed as we understood the bible more,as GOD CHANGED THE MOSAIC LAW to law of christ....mind u, jehovahs witness do nt believe in ur pyramid watever u dug(copy and pasted) dat from....we make d bible our guidance.....aside 4rm been a witness, if u can prove from ur bible that hellfire is real, i will believe u....but wat if u cant...u see dis nt just abt a religion or a person...BUT IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS...THE BIBLE IS WHAT WE FOLLOW NOT A PERSON

They don't believe in pyramids, but they still follow pyramoidic doctrine (1914).

Am not sure you know how 1914 is arrived at, although about 98% of the teachings surrounding it has changed.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by goodnewscliff(m): 10:41am On Jun 07, 2016
paulGrundy:


They don't believe in pyramids, but they still follow pyramoidic doctrine (1914).

Am not sure you know how 1914 is arrived at, although about 98% of the teachings surrounding it has changed.
yeah...i do man..1914 is a turning point in history and dat year is an important year to us witness...we dnt 4llow pyramoidic doctrines..dis is d first tym am seeing this....that we use them to point to some biblical and historial facts doesnt mean we use em in our worship...in fact whats this doctrine all about?? Av been a witness for more than 24 years man....wats dis doctrine??
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by goodnewscliff(m): 10:45am On Jun 07, 2016
MizJanet:
I like Jwitness people for one thing , they hav never cme to my door screamin the fictional hellfire empire like other nuisance. And they are decent

thanks for noticing dat.....amidst of baseless critics
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 10:53am On Jun 07, 2016
Propaganda spewing machine! Where do I start from in correcting the misinformation in this post.

goodnewscliff:
hmmmm....do u knw our magazines(watchtower and awake) are the number 1 world most distrubuted book.....

Distributed in what? Your village?

and dat when it comes to house to house preaching method, we are unmatched...not bragging though..but a salient fact....we have had more dan 52 court cases and all has been won...we dont lose any court case

Oh really?! The Candance Conti peadophile case (amongst others) you lost and the over 200 million dollars(?) That you your governing body was ordered to pay up, am sure you don't know about that. Am sure you don't also know that watchtower's policy changed because that court case, (check my signature for more details).

and irrespective of the fact that adolf hitler of germany made a solemn promise to wipe out jehovahs witness from the surface of the earth becos we didnt join in WAR COULDNOT

Whilst Jehovahs witnesses stance during persecution was commendable, am not sure you know about Rutherfords secret letters to Hitler expressing support for the war





Translation of the letter to English reads:

"Dear Reichskanzler,

The Brooklyn headquarter of the Watchtower Society is pro German in an exemplary way and has been so for many years. For that reason, in 1918, the president of the Society and seven members of the board of directors were sentenced to 80 years in prison, because the president refused to use two of the magazines published in America under his direction for war propaganda against Germany. These two magazines, "The Watchtower" and "Bible Student" were the only magazines in America which refused to engage in anti-German propaganda and for that reason were prohibited and suppressed in America during the war.

In the very same manner, in course of the recent months the board of directors of our Society not only refused to engage in propaganda against Germany, but has even taken a position against it. The enclosed declaration underlines this fact and emphasizes that the people leading in such propaganda (Jewish businessmen and Catholics) also are the most rigorous persecutors of the work of our Society and its board of directors. This and other statements of the declaration are meant to repudiate the slanderous accusation, that Bible Researchers are supported by the Jews.

The conference of five thousand delegates also noted - as is expressed in the declaration - that the Bible Researchers of Germany are fighting for the very same high ethical goals and ideals which also the national government of the German Reich proclaimed respecting the relationship of humans to God, namely: honesty of the created being towards its creator.

The conference came to the conclusion that there are no contradictions when it comes to the relationship between the Bible Researchers of Germany to the national government of the German Reich. To the contrary, referring to the purely religious and unpolitical goals and efforts of the Bible Researchers, it can be said that these are in full agreement with the identical goals of the national government of the German Reich.

We are looking forward to your kind approval, which we hope to receive soon, and want to assure our highest respect to you, honorable Mr. Reichskanzler.

Yours faithfully,
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Magdeburg"

although he killed many jehovahs witness and jailed us, he could not despite his worthless effort, we number more than eight million today worldwide....

Was more than 8 million during the 1970's and 80's. Hanging around 8 million this period and will still go lower several years from now.

weve made progress through jehovahs support

Your performance statistics, very poor!
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 10:54am On Jun 07, 2016
goodnewscliff:
thanks for noticing dat.....amidst of baseless critics

Am sure you don't know she is an Atheist.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 11:12am On Jun 07, 2016
goodnewscliff:
yeah...i do man..1914 is a turning point in history and dat year is an important year to us witness...we dnt 4llow pyramoidic doctrines..dis is d first tym am seeing this....that we use them to point to some biblical and historial facts doesnt mean we use em in our worship...in fact whats this doctrine all about?? Av been a witness for more than 24 years man....wats dis doctrine??

You allowed pyramidology and many occult teachings and practices in the past.

Charles Taze Russell is buried in a family owned grave at the Rosemont United Cemetery, 226 Cemetery Lane, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Next to his grave is a pyramid erected as a memorial. Weighing several tons, it is complete with symbols of the knight's templar, All-Seeing-Eye and the inscription Watch Tower Bible And Tract Society. This cemetery contains the remains of known Masons, and it is claimed that Russell was embalmed at death. A Masonic temple built after Russell's death overlooks his grave.





Russell's belief in the message of the pyramids was based on passages from Isaiah 19 and Jeremiah 32.

""In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, for a sign and for a witness." (Isaiah 19: 19, 20.) Not only did God mention prophetically the great Pyramid in Isaiah, but also in Jeremiah 32:20, where we read that "He set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, even unto this day."" The Bible Students Monthly Vol.5 No.11
He believed that the sign of Egypt was related to the dimension of the pyramid of Gizeh. In the early 1900's he went to Egypt to measure the pyramid and claimed that the passage of the great pyramid of Gizeh was 2170 inches and that it was built in 2170 B.C.E. The significance of this teaching is highlighted by it having over 60 pages devoted to it in Thy Kingdom Come.

"The Great Pyramid in Egypt is a Witness to all these events of the ages and of our day -- testifying in symbols? The Pyramid's downward passage under "A Draconis" symbolizes the course of Sin? Its First Ascending Passage symbolizes the Jewish age? Its grand Gallery symbolized the Gospel age? Its Upper Step symbolized the approaching period of tribulation and anarchy, "Judgments," upon Christendom? Its King's Chamber the Divine Nature, etc., of the Overcoming Church -- the Christ, Head and Body? Its Ante-Chamber the Correction in Righteousness of the "Great Company" etc.? Its Queen's Chamber those of Israel and the world who attain Restitution?" Studies In the Scriptures Series I - The Divine Plan of the Ages 1908 edition end notes




Pyramid as appearing in Studies in the Scriptures - Thy Kingdom Come and on the cover of Studies in the Scriptures - The Divine Plan of the Ages 1913 Edition.



Russell originally used the size of a pyramid to prove that 1874 A.D. marked the beginning of the period of trouble, as shown below in the 1891 edition of Thy Kingdom Come. In the 1911 edition of Thy Kingdom Come, Russell changed the pyramid measurements by 41 inches, to show that 1914 would be the beginning of the time of trouble.

grin grin grin

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/davinci-freemason.php

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Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by joyandfaith: 11:45am On Jun 07, 2016
paulGrundy:

Am sure you don't know she is an Atheist.
it is people like you that makes her atheist
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by joyandfaith: 12:00pm On Jun 07, 2016
paulGrundy:
Propaganda spewing machine! Where do I start from in correcting the misinformation in this post.



Distributed in what? Your village?



Oh really?! The Candance Conti peadophile case (amongst others) you lost and the over 200 million dollars(?) That you your governing body was ordered to pay up, am sure you don't know about that. Am sure you don't also know that watchtower's policy changed because that court case, (check my signature for more details).



Whilst Jehovahs witnesses stance during persecution was commendable, am not sure you know about Rutherfords secret letters to Hitler expressing support for the war





Translation of the letter to English reads:

"Dear Reichskanzler,

The Brooklyn headquarter of the Watchtower Society is pro German in an exemplary way and has been so for many years. For that reason, in 1918, the president of the Society and seven members of the board of directors were sentenced to 80 years in prison, because the president refused to use two of the magazines published in America under his direction for war propaganda against Germany. These two magazines, "The Watchtower" and "Bible Student" were the only magazines in America which refused to engage in anti-German propaganda and for that reason were prohibited and suppressed in America during the war.

In the very same manner, in course of the recent months the board of directors of our Society not only refused to engage in propaganda against Germany, but has even taken a position against it. The enclosed declaration underlines this fact and emphasizes that the people leading in such propaganda (Jewish businessmen and Catholics) also are the most rigorous persecutors of the work of our Society and its board of directors. This and other statements of the declaration are meant to repudiate the slanderous accusation, that Bible Researchers are supported by the Jews.

The conference of five thousand delegates also noted - as is expressed in the declaration - that the Bible Researchers of Germany are fighting for the very same high ethical goals and ideals which also the national government of the German Reich proclaimed respecting the relationship of humans to God, namely: honesty of the created being towards its creator.

The conference came to the conclusion that there are no contradictions when it comes to the relationship between the Bible Researchers of Germany to the national government of the German Reich. To the contrary, referring to the purely religious and unpolitical goals and efforts of the Bible Researchers, it can be said that these are in full agreement with the identical goals of the national government of the German Reich.

We are looking forward to your kind approval, which we hope to receive soon, and want to assure our highest respect to you, honorable Mr. Reichskanzler.

Yours faithfully,
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Magdeburg"



Was more than 8 million during the 1970's and 80's. Hanging around 8 million this period and will still go lower several years from now.



Your performance statistics, very poor!

liar. jw never reach 7 millions in 80s. and you will commit suicide if publishers reach 9millions in the next 5 to 8 years?
also tell us that jw used to celebrate christmas,birthday, have many wives if like, smoke tobacco if likes, tolerate now disfellowshipped offences, allow to join military if likes. tell us. jw will keep on improving in understanding of scriptures and you will keep on wasiling ang gnashing teeth. even with court cases, jw are not forced to pay contributions or offerings.
you need to know different between administrative policy, bible doctrine, commandments, principles, and laws. policiescan be changed because they are not divine or inspired but others are inspired and cannot be changed. they are based on the scriptures.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by MCeeShort(m): 1:14pm On Jun 07, 2016
pweetylivia:
lie!. They'll use 2 hours if you don't pursue them away




Then u really don't know JW members.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by MCeeShort(m): 1:24pm On Jun 07, 2016
joyandfaith:


liar. jw never reach 7 millions in 80s. and you will commit suicide if publishers reach 9millions in the next 5 to 8 years?
also tell us that jw used to celebrate christmas,birthday, have many wives if like, smoke tobacco if likes, tolerate now disfellowshipped offences, allow to join military if likes. tell us. jw will keep on improving in understanding of scriptures and you will keep on wasiling ang gnashing teeth. even with court cases, jw are not forced to pay contributions or offerings.
you need to know different between administrative policy, bible doctrine, commandments, principles, and laws. policiescan be changed because they are not divine or inspired but others are inspired and cannot be changed. they are based on the scriptures.

Don't minD that fellow. Is JW up to 8million? One thing I hate about some of their members is the extent at which they go to slander the Catholic Church. Last time I read an article they wrote in Easter and my soul wept uncontrollably
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Sarang(f): 2:44pm On Jun 07, 2016
Horlufemi:


You no get work?


Lol I do mehn!
You won't believe it but I work myself out.

Studying-Working-preaching-all in one.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Sarang(f): 2:44pm On Jun 07, 2016
Trina0936:

I applaud your level of myopia! Amazing undecided

Okay
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Sarang(f): 2:46pm On Jun 07, 2016
paulGrundy:


Baptists conducts corresspondence bible study via the internet (am a beneficiary). Why can't the watchtower do the same?

Are you guys in iran and afghanistan yet?
What about Russia and Bulgaria where your work is restricted?

If the governing body know that the preaching work has not gotten to the ends of the world, why are the predicting the end of the world?


And you think this system of things will remain forever?
I guess you enjoy it.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Sarang(f): 2:48pm On Jun 07, 2016
Trina0936:

Help me ask him! Don't you know he is a' church worker'? Abi you no want make he chop? undecided


Honestly I may work more than both of you put together..and am not a he.

And I feed myself not my church..sorry

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Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jun 07, 2016
Sarang:



Honestly I may work more than both of you put together..and am not a he.

And I feed myself not my church..sorry

Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Nobody: 8:12am On Jun 08, 2016
okuneddie:



is it that u sabi Yoruba or u be Yoruba?
I sabi yoruba
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by okuneddie(m): 2:22pm On Jun 08, 2016
reminiscing:
I sabi yoruba
wow....where do u come from and where do u base?
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 6:46am On Jun 09, 2016
goodnewscliff:
yeah...i do man..1914 is a turning point in history and dat year is an important year to us witness...we dnt 4llow pyramoidic doctrines..dis is d first tym am seeing this....that we use them to point to some biblical and historial facts doesnt mean we use em in our worship...in fact whats this doctrine all about?? Av been a witness for more than 24 years man....wats dis doctrine??

Then do more research on it, its obvious you know little of your history. My questions now are;

1) Why would Jehovah allow a doctrine of occultic origin into his organization.

2) JW's reject Xmas and other public holidays because of their pagan origin, but they can't do the same for 1914, why?
Because its the only doctrine of Russell that is accepted and would be used to venerate him as pioneer of the society.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by paulGrundy(m): 7:00am On Jun 09, 2016
Sarang:



And you think this system of things will remain forever?
I guess you enjoy it.

No, the system of things won't come to an end when you guys want it to, its the financially mediocrity of the governing body that would come to an end. Think again the bible says that the gospel will be preached to ALL THE WORLD before the end comes. JW's are not even in a 10th of Asia, talkless of them hearing the gospel, yet the governing body is preaching the end. They know the end
Is not coming any time soon
.

End of world scare= more population = more offerings= increase in income.



Watchtower trusts and shares

https://www.watchtowerlies.com/linked/investments_of_watchtower_in_the_hedge_funds_in_cayman_islands_a_tax_haven_40000000_2007_en.pdf

Watchtower 40million dollar investment in cayaman island.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by joyandfaith: 7:51am On Jun 09, 2016
paulGrundy:


Then do more research on it, its obvious you know little of your history. My questions now are;

1) Why would Jehovah allow a doctrine of occultic origin into his organization.

2) JW's reject Xmas and other public holidays because of their pagan origin, but they can't do the same for 1914, why?
Because its the only doctrine of Russell that is accepted and would be used to venerate him as pioneer of the society.

1914 can be explained using bible chronology. And pyramid has nothing to do with 1914.
mathematicians then were curious and can use pyramid to calculate anything.
yes, rusell just as other bible scholars then felt jews constructed great pyramid of giza and hid Divine truth in it.
however, in 20s, watchtower rejected pyramid teaching. mind you rusell calculated 1914 using bible chronology, not pyramid.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by joyandfaith: 7:57am On Jun 09, 2016
paulGrundy:


No, the system of things won't come to an end when you guys want it to, its the financially mediocrity of the governing body that would come to an end. Think again the bible says that the gospel will be preached to ALL THE WORLD before the end comes. JW's are not even in a 10th of Asia, talkless of them hearing the gospel, yet the governing body is preaching the end. They know the end
Is not coming any time soon
.

End of world scare= more population = more offerings= increase in income.



Watchtower trusts and shares

https://www.watchtowerlies.com/linked/investments_of_watchtower_in_the_hedge_funds_in_cayman_islands_a_tax_haven_40000000_2007_en.pdf

Watchtower 40million dollar investment in cayaman island.

but watchtower is not forcing members to contribute money. no tithes. no special offering. it is voluntary. how much each congregation contributes monthly? meagre. but fund is being used judiciously. if jw pay tithes, watchtower will be so rich and likes of you will be wailing loudly.
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by Nobody: 8:48am On Jun 09, 2016
okuneddie:

wow....where do u come from and where do u base?
I come from Akwa ibom ,born and brought up in lag
Re: What Is Your Reaction When Jehovah Witnesses Knock On Your Door? by okuneddie(m): 9:37am On Jun 09, 2016
reminiscing:

I come from Akwa ibom ,born and brought up in lag


wow....Ibibio, anaang, efik? lemme try my luck, mesere (good morning)

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