upko1:

Kindly let me know how please.

Sad Islamic forks just rounded up innocent fun lovers and slaughtered them in their numbers.
How is this different from the middle east?

Is it because there's no Suicide vest, VBIED, RPG, IEDs, PKMs??

Centrifude:


Americans know very well that their tax is used to build Weapons, and the average American didn't really care when a U.S Apache blew up a Group of people who were leaving a church Congregation , of when their Jets dropped a bomb on a UN Hospital, of when a U.S soldier fired a Rocket launcher into a family home just because one Terrorist was shooting at them, while holding a family Hostage. Don't forget that most Americans only cared abt ISIS after they Cut off that Journalists head.

Tinfoil:


That's a white phosphorus not cluster bomb

Tinfoil:
This is for my gullible friend Africaken

https://videopress.com/v/SgTSvLlt

chinese8107:
some sayings Aselsan ASELPOD stuck by some US controlled parts. so it's still under development

africaken254:
according to Aselsan website ASELPOD is on sale http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/capabilities/electro-optic-systems/air-platforms/aselpod-advanced-targeting-pod

Henry240:


Africaken, you should be more knowledgeable than this, i expect much more from you.

What is Hi-Tech? The Russians have an amazing blend of Digital and Analog equipment. Is there are better counter-measure system for Helos in the market than President-S or firing cruise missiles from the Caspian sea?


The Russians fight with brute force, that's because political correctness doesn't apply in war. They intend to pummel the enemy to submission. When the Russians are coming, the enemy should be afraid.



The Iranians brought down and reversed a "smart" "stealth" US drone. So much for smart technology.


The Turks are doing well, they got some smart people doing a lot of great things in their defence industry.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8dvbW1yZc

chinese8107:

important specs missing. the detection range .maybe they don't want to leak out.

some say 25km. not comfirmed. any user so far?

By the way how far is the detection range of US sniper pod?

sczeska:

So all the above mentioned justifies the killing of innocent people??

africaken254:
whats the point of carpet bombing your enemy ,when the enemy can still deploy tanks,APC's and technicals with no fear of you accuracy of your weapons! a few american special ops and kurds rebels with the support of much accurate american air power have being able to advance a few kilometers to ISIS capital Raqqa
the reason russian air force has resulted to using cluster bombs ,is because they have realised how inaccurate their dumb bomb are.the west and israel for years have being developing very advanced air craft Countermeasure Technology for years and have a much successful Countermeasure Technology history than russia

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8dvbW1yZc

Henry240:


"Between 1700 and 1940 Russia/USSR fought in 34 wars and won 31 and in 392 battle and won 279. We could say that Russia won 91% of her wars and 71% of her battles. Russia's opponents included: Swedes, French, Germans, Turks, Poles, Tatars, Finns, Caucasians, Japanese, Chinese, Austrians, Hungarians, British, Italians and Central Asians."


Here are the 3 wars it lost
I would just add that Crimea was fought against what I call a "great ecumenical coalition" (including Anglican British, the Latin French and the Muslim Turks) which outnumbered the Russians by over 200'000 people (there was almost a MILLION "ecumenical attackers" for just over 700'00 Russian defenders. But yes, Russia did lose this one. ( WHo runs Crimea today ? Mind you Crimean penisular was taken back long time ago after the British, Ottoman and French controlled it, the Soviet empire took it back and was later illegally transfered to Ukraine Soviet)

Today, who runs Crimea ?

The Russian War against Japan
Did Russia lose the war against Japan? I would argue that the Russian Fleet sure was defeated by the Japanese Navy, but Japanese historians have a very different view of what happened and consider that Japan's military was spent by the time the peace treaty was drafted (by the Russian side, by the way) and that Japan had been forced to accept very bad terms. At the very least, I would call this one a draw.

The 3rd being RUssian Polish war
As for the Russian-Polish war, yes, the Soviet's lost this one badly. But look at the kind of Soviet Union we had in 1920: a country in the midst of a civil war, with many uprising taking place, with a "worker-farmer" "army" with no real officers and let by clueless commissars. So while the outcome was a defeat, the circumstances of that defeat are, I think, so unique as to be irrelevant.

But whatever the fine print and different views of the significance of individual outcomes, I think that these figures strongly suggest that attacking Russia is an exceedingly bad idea, even when only conventional wars are considered. Attacking Russia while she has the powerful nuclear arsenal on the planet is utter lunacy.

Let's hope that this short reminder will reach at least one of the crazies who think that playing a game of chicken with Russia is a sound policy and that the Russians will "blink first" impressed by the US/NATO military prowess.

Henry240:


"How does the numerical advantage in both men and equipment of a military Super-power over a third world foe change the facts of the battle?"............. Wow, is this really a question that needs answering..... Really absurd.

africaken254:
nobody will ever give you an accurate number just an approximate,with turkey close cooperation with israel and american defense firms .they definitely have an advantage and thus credibility over their claims

Henry240:


Humour me, how inaccurate is this bombing?


a terroris try to shoot down a russian fighter and get a missile as answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLrJlA_pZfA

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFkzAFkM_mE

africaken254:
whats the point of carpet bombing your enemy ,when the enemy can still deploy tanks,APC's and technicals with no fear of you accuracy of your weapons! a few american special ops and kurds rebels with the support of much accurate american air power have being able to advance a few kilometers to ISIS capital Raqqa
the reason russian air force has resulted to using cluster bombs ,is because they have realised how inaccurate their dumb bomb are.the west and israel for years have being developing very advanced air craft Countermeasure Technology for years and have a much successful Countermeasure Technology history than russia

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8dvbW1yZc

bidexiii:



With all there accuracy and counter-measures; they couldn't stop a cheap and yet deadly RPG round that was being fired at a Chinook helicopter in 2011 that was carrying 25 seal team,the crew of the boeinn crew team, afghan army and interpreter and a dog, 38 in total and the Countermeasure didn't see that coming.....?

What about the Blackhawk down in Mogadishu somalia........? that lead to the escalation of an operation that was suppose to just last few hours.......

bidexiii:



With all there accuracy and counter-measures; they couldn't stop a cheap and yet deadly RPG round that was being fired at a Chinook helicopter in 2011 that was carrying 25 seal team,the crew of the boeinn crew team, afghan army and interpreter and a dog, 38 in total and the Countermeasure didn't see that coming.....?

What about the Blackhawk down in Mogadishu somalia........? that lead to the escalation of an operation that was suppose to just last few hours.......

sczeska:
So all the above mentioned justifies the killing of innocent people??

africaken254:
Ok then tell me which country has being able to counter such a threat ,also you shoot one chinook or blackhawk .how many do you think they have ! how many special ops do you think america trains annually !

sczeska:

So all the above mentioned justifies the killing of innocent people??

Vikkie14:
According to Americans and their a§-lickers, the RPG was fitted with Counter-CounterMeasure. I dont understand the kinda feelings they got--is there any monopoly of tech? Russians navy are archaic--we know what they did with their small corvettes--americans are still baffled on how a small ship could carry so much punch.
"we never lost a single Blackbird to enemy fire"---because their SR71 never cross over russia after the deployment of Foxhound.
Russia is not soviet, soviet is not russia. We know where China is before the WWII, we know where they are today. An "accuracy and precision" that send a UCAV-fired missile(s) inside an hospital--i dont want that kind of accuracy and "smart" bomb.
An average american doesn't care whose ox os gored in their military onslaught the world over.
So, if they fund non-state actors to destabilized other "frie-enemies" states, i dont care whether they are innocent or not, afterall, millions of innocent people have been wiped outta existence by their military. It's not about justifying the terror acts, it's just about tasting what you are serving others.
Remember, KARMA HAS NO MENU, YOU GET SERVED, WHAT YOU DESERVED.

bidexiii:


Sorry may be just posted the video link and u did not watch it........

But in the video they boasted of not one single lost...... , since when God knows when they started supplying the arms of united state military and not just one single lost. but I did not understand you now by your question ;"ok then tell me which country has being able to counter such a threat"........ ;i don't av a 100% answer to that question but ilk answer the question and I would not boast like u, the Western & European worlds........ The Russian has solution to some extent....

Vikkie14:
According to Americans and their a§-lickers, the RPG was fitted with Counter-CounterMeasure. I dont understand the kinda feelings they got--is there any monopoly of tech? Russians navy are archaic--we know what they did with their small corvettes--americans are still baffled on how a small ship could carry so much punch.
"we never lost a single Blackbird to enemy fire"---because their SR71 never cross over russia after the deployment of Foxhound.
Russia is not soviet, soviet is not russia. We know where China is before the WWII, we know where they are today. An "accuracy and precision" that send a UCAV-fired missile(s) inside an hospital--i dont want that kind of accuracy and "smart" bomb.
An average american doesn't care whose ox os gored in their military onslaught the world over.
So, if they fund non-state actors to destabilized other "frie-enemies" states, i dont care whether they are innocent or not, afterall, millions of innocent people have been wiped outta existence by their military. It's not about justifying the terror acts, it's just about tasting what you are serving others.
Remember, KARMA HAS NO MENU, YOU GET SERVED, WHAT YOU DESERVED.

Vikkie14:
According to Americans and their a§-lickers, the RPG was fitted with Counter-CounterMeasure. I dont understand the kinda feelings they got--is there any monopoly of tech? Russians navy are archaic--we know what they did with their small corvettes--americans are still baffled on how a small ship could carry so much punch.
"we never lost a single Blackbird to enemy fire"---because their SR71 never cross over russia after the deployment of Foxhound.
Russia is not soviet, soviet is not russia. We know where China is before the WWII, we know where they are today. An "accuracy and precision" that send a UCAV-fired missile(s) inside an hospital--i dont want that kind of accuracy and "smart" bomb.
An average american doesn't care whose ox os gored in their military onslaught the world over.
So, if they fund non-state actors to destabilized other "frie-enemies" states, i dont care whether they are innocent or not, afterall, millions of innocent people have been wiped outta existence by their military. It's not about justifying the terror acts, it's just about tasting what you are serving others.
Remember, KARMA HAS NO MENU, YOU GET SERVED, WHAT YOU DESERVED.

Centrifude:


Americans are anything but Innocent.

bidexiii:


Secondly one of the Russian "tech wonders" that marvels me, are there tiny yet powerful corvettes that can deliver a powerfull punch and threat to united states and NATO big for nothing ships......

patches689:


People act as though Sept 11th didnt happen

angola Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano

patches689:


They never said it had counter-measures.

It was an RPG-7

Helo was flying low and the guy who shot it was either very lucky or very good.

Henry240:


Centrifude isn't justifying any killing, neither is he supposed to feel pity or sorry for anyone because of the killings.


In the over 40 wars the Americans have actively participated in, since the end of WWII, millions of innocent civilians have been killed, wars which in some cases had, had over 70% public approval or cases where Americans themselves simply did not care.


You guys should quit attacking Centrifude, he hasn't said anything to warrant this unsolicited attacks.