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glossy6:
Where are those claiming that Islam is a religion of peace? Seun, lala, itsmeaboki come and see ooh

Emekamex:
If I had the power, I will nuke all basta*d extremists from the face of the earth.

ItsMeAboki:
Stop being mentally lazy and start using your brain; how can the action of a few define the remainder bigger majority?
Besides, when it comes to violence, analytical studies have shown that the text content of the Bible is more violent than the Quaran; therefore by such inference one can authoritatively say that Christians are potentially more violent than Muslims.
Go read and get educated instead of exposing your pitiful ignorance and bigotry.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html

crusadistic:
What is this creature saying ,fight which fight?

reminiscing:
I.slowpoke. .let your god fight his blasphemers!!!!

fiizznation:
Can't the security agencies track these sociopaths/hoodlums down. There is no place in the holy Quran were Allah{swt} ask any mortal to kill because somebody blasphemed his religion or ridiculed our noble prophet Muhammad{saw}, I know somethings hurt but people should just take a chill please. The highest we can ever do is to enlighten the islamaphobians, and if they refused to stop ridiculing islam/Muslims, you should simply just ignore them. We should always try to be the true custodians of a peaceful Islam and not the other way round.

And I still don't just know why we Africans misunderstood the religion we are practicing so much. People insulting Islam everyday will never stop anybody that wants to embrace Islam to change his mind, and it won't make any Muslim to denounce Islam, neither it will stop a good muslim from practicing the teachings of Islam thereby perfecting his iman. These are the facts. So fighting/harming/killing anybody because he/she insults Islam is a waste of time in my opinion. Our religion teaches us peace, establishing cordial relationship with other religions and portraying Islam as the religion of peace, love and understanding that it is and will always be.

Salam

ItsMeAboki:
Stop being mentally lazy and start using your brain; how can the action of a few define the remainder bigger majority?
Besides, when it comes to violence, analytical studies have shown that the text content of the Bible is more violent than the Quaran; therefore by such inference one can authoritatively say that Christians are potentially more violent than Muslims.
Go read and get educated instead of exposing your pitiful ignorance and bigotry.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html

Movic1:
Which state did they come from?

cocoduck:
That is the most useless lie I always hear when the topic is about Igbos, where, when and how is this insinuation true? Look, most investments owned by Igbos are in Igbo land, okay? Aku ruo n'ulo, amara onye nwe ya. I will never cry for any Igbo man or woman that is killed in northern Nigeria, some (many) Igbo people have died because of money, you are the one that is short sighted, one Nigeria can never work, you have forgotten about the people who said they will kill if any such thing happens again, and faced igbos, the Hausa man that was killed in aba killed somebody before being killed in return.

Tonnierichy:
Lol
One Nigeria can never work if we have more people like you

I don't like certain tribes in Nugeria and th igbos top the list but I can't imagine being in a country without you all.

There is strength in our diversity if we can be united.

cocoduck:
You hate somebody but still can't live without that person, what a paradox, what strength are you talking about? When you hate me and my people, just listen to yourself.

Tonnierichy:
Hehehe....that must sting.

It is because we are still Nigeria that we are called a giant of Africa

It is because of thesame reason we have the largest economy in Africa. What we need is a sincere and responsible government to bring the best out of our diversity

If we break today, we would all have the status of countries like Ghana, Togo et al

cocoduck:
I don't live in Nigeria, I left that God forsaken country in 2006, and till now I don't dream of going back to stay, anybody that does not travel feels that his father's compound is the biggest, How can you be the largest economy in Africa but have one if the HIGHEST unemployment rate on the continent? You are the biggest on paper, your women popping kids out like rabbits is not greatness ok? Since 1960 you had your flag independence, you are still looking for responsible leaders, hahahahahahahaha, what a failed state.

Fawklicant:
Some of you wonder why the arabs dont regard you as true muslims or see you as less than human? Flawed as the argument below may seem, it however asks pertinent questions which cannot be overlooked.

http://madworldnews.com/liberal-praise-muhammad-ali/

African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali With 1 Question

Posted on June 6, 2016 by Dom the Conservative

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African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali With 1 Question

Mona Walter is an ex-Muslim Somali activist who wants to know why black lives don’t matter to black liberals who are praising the death of a man who converted to the religion that’s enslaved hundreds of millions of her people.

After the recent death of famous champion heavyweight boxer Muhammad Ali, liberals, blacks, and even conservatives have flooded social media with praise for the sports legend. However, one African woman is wondering if blacks who are mourning his loss have lost their minds — and it’s all because of one thing most are too star-struck to realize.

Mona Walter is an ex-Muslim Somali activist who is determined to expose what her former religion has done for 1,400 years and is planning to do to Western countries. After immigrating to Sweden when she was 19, she was given the opportunity to read the Quran for the first time. It was discovering the violent passages and racially charged scriptures against blacks and Jews that prompted Mona to convert to Christianity and dedicate her life to exposing Islam. However, she not only sees this dangerous ideology infiltrating through mass Muslim migration but also being glamorized through celebrity gossip.

Because of Mona’s extensive knowledge of slavery in the Quran and hadith, including the Islamic Prophet Muhammad’s trade of black slaves, she wants to know why Muhammad, who claimed he was escaping “slavery” of the white Christianity, converted to a religion whose holy man enslaved blacks.

“Something is wrong when [a] black man converted to Islam in modern time,” she says. “Something is wrong with that because Islam is the religion of slavery. You know, his name is Muhammad Ali. Muhammad is a master, a slave master. So how is that this Muhammad Ali is fleeing a slave master and he went to another slave master?“

She goes on to explain that white people beat themselves up all the time for slavery in the West, while Muslims, who own over 14 million blacks to this day, have no apology for their bigotry and inhumanity. She points out the hypocrisy of blacks demanding reparations from whites since it was the white Christians who fought and died to abolish slavery in America.

“Do you know, the time Muhammad Ali converted to Islam, the black people were in chains like this in Saudi Arabia. In the 60s, Saudi Arabia had enslaved all the Middle East. The Muslim Arabs, they had slaves, black slaves like me, from Africa! They had black slaves in the 60s! And this man converted to Islam. Something is wrong with that. That is you are a traitor. You betrayed your African race.”


Mona expresses her disbelief that many don’t know that it was the Arabs who were raping and kidnapping millions of Africans long before they began selling them to the U.S. In fact, it was the Arabs and African Muslims who initiated the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, with many enslaving their own people because of their newfound religion.

After receiving her first introduction to Islamic text in early adulthood, Mona still can’t believe how any black person could willingly convert to Islam. According to the hadith, the Islamic Prophet Muhammad would trade 2 blacks for 1 Arab slave, reducing their worth by even more than they were already considered. Aside from this, he often pointed to his black slave, Nabtal, to describe how Satan looks.

Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”

Further building his Caliphate on racism and slavery, Muhammad ordered a black slave to build the pulpit from which he preached Allah’s commands. However, the most offensive scripture comes from Muhammad himself, who said that when Allah created black people, he meant for them all to go to hell.

Mona explains that when she read all of this, she knew she must warn her people of this deceptive ideology.

“I didn’t know what I was a part of. I didn’t know who Muhammad was. I didn’t know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed,” she recalled. “It’s about hating and killing those who disagree with Islam. It’s about conquering. Muhammad, he was immoral. He was a bloodthirsty man. He was terrible man, and Muslims can read that in his biography — what he did to Jews, how he raped women, how he killed people. I mean, he killed everyone who didn’t agree with him.”

Unfortunately, millions of blacks will never listen to Mona or the racist scriptures within the Quran and hadith, as blacks continue to convert to Islam and ignorant Westerners praise those who do. In fact, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the U.S. and the world.

For centuries, Islam has relied on brutality and slavery of blacks to force them to convert, but now, they rely on their ignorance of the world’s most racist, violent religious prophet to keep them coming back.

sam4eva777:
I am not a Muslim but I have spent years in research and study of the Qur'an. Sadly, many Muslims are ignorant of their Holy Book. Here are a few verses in the Qur'an supporting violence and the killing of non-Muslims.

Quran (2:191-193)-"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah[disbelief or unrest]is worse than killing...but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah[disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah]and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)
"(Translation is from the Noble Quran)
The verse prior to this (190) refers to"fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you"leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word"persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" -do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned"until religion is for Allah"- ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244)-"Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216)-"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time

. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56)-"As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.

"Quran (3:151)-"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers,for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah')

.Quran (4:74)-"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

can you quote some verses that shows Islam is a religion of peace. the few verses that speak of peace in the Qur'an fail to balance the ridiculous calls for violence and Jihad.

Tonnierichy:
@ least we ain't cowards. We not gonna run off like you did, or maybe like your family did
Its our country and we going to stay and fight for better days.

cocoduck:
That na ya own palava. If I see your leg for some border

Movic1:
These three things are different, they aren't the same. Muslim,Arab & Hausa. So dont generalize it. Hausas killed the woman. If a christian kill today,you wont criticize her by his/her religion but by tribe. e.g Igboman or yorubaman

Rexyl:
I think you need help to know and understand Bible. Those telling you that Biblical messages and principle promote violence and difficult to follow are just misleading you.

God started his plan for redemption and salvation with the old testament and fulfilled it with the new testament. We study and follow the two to understand God and know his for giving us life. It's only in Bible you can find peace that lasts to eternity.

pls get the Bible messages and messengers clearer before you jump the fence, trying to escape from the truth

aliu001:
[size=22pt]Dts bhcoz christians dnt respect thr god as much as we respect ours
If truly d woman did it then i 100% support wat was done to her
We won't tolerate dis kind of acts[/size]

glossy6:
Show me where the potentially more violent Christians have displayed half of the violence displayed by Muslims and i will tell you your psychological make up.

The most educated man from his state with a mere BSc or HND

ItsMeAboki:
Here is another comparative study which will answer your question; however, for the sake of brevity I will upload the conclusion, who you or anyone interested may follow this link for the full details.

http://www.themodernreligion.com/terror/terrorism_compare.html

Conclusion

In comparing any two great civilizations one should not focus on one land or one decade or century, but rather glance over many centuries and over many lands. If we do that, then it becomes clear that whether one looks at the teachings of the two religions or the conduct of their followers there is no basis in fact in the claim that Christianity is more of a religion of love and peace than Islam. Christians have no doubt talked about love and peace more, but Muslims have practiced these values more.


Meanwhile, go read and get educated; stop the bigotry and a display of your ignorance

glossy6:
You are still living in denial.
Now tell me how many Christian terror groups do we have and how many Muslim terror groups do we have in the world to today? We are talking of actual events while you are busy digging up historical analogy to sell lies depicting Islam as a religion of peace. Peace and violence cannot go hand in hand.

ItsMeAboki:
Stop being myopic, terrorism is only one among many forms of violence; you just trying to be clever by half, switching from one issue to another - as in shifting the goalpost.

If you want a real object perspective on who is more violent then you must assess all the violence attributed to each religion from time immemorial to the present; otherwise you are being less than honest by selecting only a slice from the chronicle of events that suits your purpose - it is called being biased.

However, let me oblige you even on the issue of terrorism; go ahead list the terror groups you know and I'll gladly show you the manipulating Christian hands behind their formation or in supporting them behind the scene.

Pls go read and get educated to reduce the ignorance and bigotry.

glossy6:
You are still beating about the Bush.

Last line, this your "go read & get educated" is getting excessive. How "educated " are you self? Or is it because you read anti Christian documentary that others won't hear word on NL ? If you want to make a point go ahead and do so without telling to go get educated. You are definitely not more educated than me. What a heck!

ItsMeAboki:
Beating about the bush my foot.
I have provided you with evidence which you deliberately failed to address.
And yes, if you feel peeved enough; go ahead and prove me wrong.
Indeed, had you been sufficiently educated or well read, you wouldn't have been a volunteer of such baseless propaganda.

glossy6:
I forgot that am actually debating with an a.boki whose only form of being "educated " is reading anti Christian documentaries.

Continue in your ignorance, I rest my case. We are all seeing how Islam is practicing the so much acclaimed peace.

ItsMeAboki:
Not surprising, what would you expect from an empty headed bigot, if not trash and more trash.
You thought you had insulted me by referring to me as an A.boki; well if you weren't so ignorant you would have realised it simply means 'friend' in Hausa, a word I have proudly even adopted in my username - unfortunately the joke is ultimately on you once again.

Movic1:
These three things are different, they aren't the same. Muslim,Arab & Hausa. So dont generalize it. Hausas killed the woman. If a christian kill today,you wont criticize her by his/her religion but by tribe. e.g Igboman or yorubaman

Movic1:
There's nothing like hausa christian. All those xtains you see in the north are'nt hausa. They have their own tribe.