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| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 9:57am On Jun 15, 2016 |
valboy20:You can cringe till you break. I owe you no apologies. no wonder God Himself told us in the book of Psalms in the bible that "A FOOL says in his heart that there is no God". Shame on you that at your supposed adult age, you're still battling with understanding the most basic things of life, such as having a common sense to know you did not create yourself, and if you didnt, it means somebody must have orchestrated your creation! At your age you still believe the crap of evolution. If evolution were true, then explain it to us why after millions of years, we can still see apes and humans, but nobody sees the 3 or 4 stages in between. Explain to us why we can't see any monkeys or apes still evolving and transforming to man today. I pity your type! totally confused human being who is struggling with identity crisis and coming here to form "super intelligence" for us with evolution crap! Go and solve your identity crisis first and discover where you came from before coming here to talk anything! |
| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 10:20am On Jun 15, 2016 |
urahara:Another ignorant soul has just showed himself in public again! Pls go and read the bible correctly first before you rush in here to misquote things. If you had read your bible correctly, you would have known that there was already "sin" before Adam & Eve were created. Does it occur to you that it was the devil who made Adam & Eve sin? Does it occur to you that the first record of sin was committed by Lucifer in heaven and that was why he was cast out of heaven to the earth? Does it occur to you that Lucifer had already been cast down to the earth long before Adam & Eve were created and that was why immediately after Adam & Eve were created the devil was already present to tempt them and make them sin? Does it occur to you that if Lucifer had been cast down from heaven to earth long before Adam & Eve were created, it means there was already an earth in existence long before the creation of Adam & Eve? Do you remember Genesis chapter 1 verse 1 said "in the beginning, God created the heaven and earth", and verse 2 says "...and the earth became void and darkness was upon the face of the waters" Does it occur to you that a Perfect God would have created a perfect earth in the beginning, but there was a devil who had sinned in heaven and was cast down to the earth, and he could have caused the earth to become void and full of darkness until Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 where God started recreating the earth in 6days and then created Adam & Eve Does it occur to you that Dinosaurs could actually have been in existence on the earth before the devil was cast down from heaven to earth and the earth became void and full of darkness, thereby destroying whatever life may have been in existence on earth prior to Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 where God began recreating the earth in 6days![]() You obviously have not stretched your mind to reason all of the above critically before and you are here trying to form "fountain of superior knowledge" for us. atheists are the most shallow humans that exist, but they have no idea how shallow they are! |
| Re: God Is Dead by urahara(m): 10:23am On Jun 15, 2016 |
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| Re: God Is Dead by frubben(m): 11:05am On Jun 15, 2016 |
ettaetta:Lol leave the guy, dey believe lucifer exist and God does not exist. Tank God its ur opinion |
| Re: God Is Dead by captainnigeria(op): 12:36pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Edelweiss44:You make me smile. The balls on this one. Its clear science means nothing to you. So God created then he was like hold up. This shit is crap lemme wait for 4.5 billion years or thereabouts and imma create a new earth. Only i'll do it in 6 days.So dinosaurs were created just for the sole purpose of dying. But there was no death before sin and only after Adam ate the 'fruit' which by the way is a total metaphor for sex did death come so how do you explain all the plant and animal species that have been found during paleontological studies. Again i'd like to reiterate that the age of this species found have been carbon dated and some are over 2 billion years old. Some are just several million years old. So my dear how do you spin this. |
| Re: God Is Dead by UyiIredia(m): 1:34pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
@ captainnigeria You may believe otherwise if you so choose but I can confidently tell you that God is not dead. He is everywhere. |
| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 4:35pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
captainnigeria:With the way you reason and lack attention to written details, I am not surprised you misquote and misunderstand the bible at such a gross level as this. After stating facts in my last post a few steps above, you still come here to write about the same thing i just answered with facts above as if you couldn't open your eyes to read them before rushing to type this last poo for us to read. For avoidance of doubt, I have never stated that science means nothing to me, cos if it didn't, i would not have acknowledged there was a real possibility that dinosaurs did exist in the past. Science is not God! Science was given to man by God to help man discover what God has already created. But it's so sad that some human beings like you and a couple of modern day scientists have now abused the purpose of science by trying to disconnect God from it. Without God, there is no science! Again, dinosaurs were not just created for the purpose of dying as you have deceived yourself to believe. Go and read my last post again and you will see reasons why dinosaurs may have died and who caused it. I will not waste my time explaining it here again if you refuse to go back and read what i've already explained very well. Also, there is nowhere it was stated in the bible that the fruit Adam & Eve ate was sex. You are a liar for propagating such fallacy. Do not misquote the bible! It was clearly stated that there were 2 significant trees in the middle of the garden, one was the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and the second was the tree of life. They were specifically instructed not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and after they ate from it, God said he was chasing them out of the garden so that they will not put their hands to also eat from the tree of life. These things are well written in the bible, but some ignorant folks who will not just read and educate themselves properly will go about saying half-truths and misquoting the bible everywhere they go. Lastly, like i said in my last post above, there was already sin before Adam & Eve were created, so there could have been death too! Lucifer sinned in heaven and was cast down to the earth long before Adam & Eve were created and committed their own sin. That Sin was introduced to the human race by Adam's disobedience does not mean sin was not already in existence outside the human race before then. Afterall, Lucifer had already sinned before Adam & Eve. You will only keep wasting your time confusing yourself by trying to disprove God, and that will not still stop you from dying one day and appearing before the same God to be judged for rejecting salvation from sin that Jesus had provided for all who would believe in Him no matter the sin they have committed in the past. God is God all by Himself, He doesn't need your approval of Him to remain supreme. You can either align with Him or you keep deceiving yourself and damn your soul for eternity when you've left this world. |
| Re: God Is Dead by urahara(m): 5:03pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
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| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 5:15pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Science was given to help man discover what God has already created, not to help man disprove God! |
| Re: God Is Dead by captainnigeria(op): 5:19pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Edelweiss44:i don't even know what to say to you. You're quite dogged in your defence of your omnipotent God. So you have your beliefs which help you to sleep at night. Cool. I know it can be a little scary when someone is tryna pull the rug from under your feet and expose the fallacy which you've been lead into. I think you should read 'The God delusion' by richard dawkins. Also 'align with the all merciful God or burn in hell forever' tell me you don't see the irony.Also your the earth became void story is total crap and you know it. So God made the universe, then he made infinite galaxies, then he made the milky way, then he made our solar system, then he rested for billions of years before he finally remade the earth in 6 days. Does that even make sense to you. Please open your mind and stop being so hateful. Put down the gloves cause no one is gonna fight you. 'God' doen't need you to defend him because he isn't real. If he is then he's an underachiever. You only need to look around you and see the desolation. And don't give me that crap about how he can only help if you let him in. Is he not all powerful? Earthquakes, famine, war, children dying and you'd still rather just pay tithe, put on your sunday best and go have a social gathering in guise of given glory to a fictional character. Good luck man. Have fun |
| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 5:52pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
captainnigeria:***seems like this guy just can't read thoroughly and comprehend my earlier posts with their stated facts, cos I don't know why he is still generating confused statements after reading well-presented facts from what's clearly written in the bible*** If you have enough sense to cool down and reason properly, you should have known by now that all those bad occurrences you mentioned like earthquakes, war, etc are the handwork of the devil and not God's handwork. Now, don't come and ask me why God has not prevented a horrible devil from causing all those bad things, cos the answer is clearly stated in the bible and you should have seen it if only you were dilligent enough to study the bible and know it for yourself rather than depending on stupid misquotes from ignorant folks. God created man and gave him a freewill while he lives on earth until he dies and the freewill gets taken away from him. This is the exact reason why God has not blasted you with thunder for cursing Him, and it's also the same reason God has not stepped in to prevent the devil from going about his business of harming humans who do not believe in God. Even when you believe in God, you still need to pray in order for God to step in and stop the devil from causing evil in your life because the freewill that God gave to man makes it illegal for God to go about stopping the devil from harming human beings who have not decided to ask for God's help. God sets the rules and he keeps to the rules he made, that's why christians describe Him as a Faithful God! So stop attributing wars and famine to God's handwork or "wickedness". God is not responsible for them, the devil is! God has been too kind to people like you who don't ordinarily deserve His kindness and that is why He's still patient with you despite your insults to Him cos He is giving you time and countless opportunities to realise your errors and accept Christ's salvation so you will not have to end up in hell that God did not originally create for man, but for the devil, but as a result of man's disobedience, he ends up going to where was not initially meant for him but for the devil. Sometimes I wonder why God has to be this extremely merciful to people like you who insult him anyhow, but then i realise it's His nature. Love and mercy are God's nature and that's why He can still forgive people like you the moment they choose to repent, irrespective of how much sins they've committed before. But justice is also in God's nature and that's why God punishes every unrepented sin in hell. The choice is yours; choose God's love & mercy or face his justice at the end of your life when your freewill you enjoy on earth elapses |
| Re: God Is Dead by K9blunt(f): 7:20pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Edelweiss44:But ancient Egypt could document their time now? Is your sky daddy lazy? ![]() |
| Re: God Is Dead by captainnigeria(op): 7:52pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
It's almost like you ignore whatever i say. I'm a bit jobless right now so i'll indulge you. Your god used to blast people in the old testament. Way before he needed his son to come and die which makes no sense logically. If he's all powerful he could just wash away sins with a snap of his fingers. Also you mentioned satan involved in earthquakes, nope that's due to tectonic plates shifting and the drilling we do as humans. No devil is involved. War is a by-product of human conflict. If we go by your logic, the devil doing all the bad stuff and your God not stopping him, who's all powerful? So he can't do a thing because of some rules he made which tied his hands?. Are we his children or nah? Save that mercy, kindness and freewill talk for the birds. Load of codswallop. You just keep contradicting yourself which is ironic cause your god does that enough on his own. Oh and by the way it's handiwork. Sorry i'm a stickler for grammar |
| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 8:02pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
K9blunt:I have read your comment, but I will not answer you cos if you cannot learn with all the facts staring at you, then it's no use trying to teach you anything. some students have already made up their minds to fail a course even before the semester starts, so teaching them is a waste of precious time and intellectual resources |
| Re: God Is Dead by Edelweiss44: 8:12pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
captainnigeria:Maybe if you understood the concept of the rule of law, you would understand why President Obama of the US has not sent the mighty American Armed Forces into every country he hates their leadership to annihialate them or maybe just assasinate all of their leaders. North Korea has been insulting America for a long time and everybody knows America is stronger, but yet America has not simply marched in to fight them.......that is because there is something called the rule of law that governs the world in which we live. The fact that you are more powerful than your adversary does not mean you fight them for every perceived insult they throw at you! God originated the rule of law, and that is why He says that even though He is Almighty, yet He still chooses to be bound by His words! That's all i'm saying for today |
| Re: God Is Dead by valboy20(m): 11:03pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
urahara:don't mind the asshole. Theist are so dumb they can say anything to rationalize the holes in the creation story. In a bid to do that they ends up being stupid. Look how I asked him simple question based on his new cooked fable and all he did was shadow dancing before resorting to ad hominem. Believe me buddy that guy is a dunce |
| Re: God Is Dead by K9blunt(f): 11:39pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Edelweiss44:Beating around the bush.... Its simple Your god had all the time and being an omni omni whatever never bothered to document time about his creation and other stuffs... Whereas ordinary humans (Egyptians for instance, etc) could do that inspire of the limited lifespan they had.... what the hell! |
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Does it occur to you that a Perfect God would have created a perfect earth in the beginning, but there was a devil who had sinned in heaven and was cast down to the earth, and he could have caused the earth to become void and full of darkness until Genesis chapter 1 verse 3 where God started recreating the earth in 6days and then created Adam & Eve