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Owliver:
same bullshits. you say God knows what will happen and then gave us free will. what do we do with the free will since he already knows what will happen? who created that "what will happen"? where did it come from?

make una no dey talk Watin una no know jo.

Sugarhugs:
Please use your sense


You have free will to do whatever you like.

Example.

I have a friend who wants to buy a very expensive car.

I know he wants to buy the car and its expensive. Fore I can't. But I can't influence his decision not to. But I know what he wants to do.

For example we predict someone's action doesn't mean the person was/is programmed to carry out that action .

Don't have to explain anymore.

Owliver:
you are still not making sense. let me ask you. that destiny god saw who created it. where did it come from? it's already fixed. by who? if it's already fixed then it's not a free will.

Strawman:
Oga you have just blocked your mind from understanding, that is all that's happening here. A lay man would understand that explanation. Your own decisions, is anybody forcing you? If nobody is forcing you, is it not your own free will? God being omniscient simply knows the outcome of what you will do, but it is up to you choose for yourself. A man named Jabez in the Bible changed his destiny by calling on God.

You keep saying that "you people say", "you people want to", but you have not even told us where in the Bible they implied that people are predestined to go to hell. You're just addressing a misconception.

ovodino:
The truth is, most Christians don't know shit about the scripture (including our so called pastors). According to the scripture God is in control of is entire creation, and the biggest lie we are being told is FREE WILL, the state of the world today is how God intended for it to be today, including humans. Anything humans are doing today as been predstinated before the creation of the world. Nothing in this world is spontaneous according to ecclessiastes 3:1. Only God can lead humans from the law of sin which he created. Human don't have the power to turn away from sin

Owliver:
OK God changed her destiny(unchangeable) ? it's either am mad or you are. until you people redefine that term or stop using it I will never agree with something that contradicts itself.

simple English na him dey do una. change and unchangeable cannot work together. simple

nairalandbuzz:
Guy don't be deceived... The truth is that God has the possibility of events that might occur depending on ur choice of action. Everything is based on the power of choice he has given us.

It depends on u if u want to eat but the possible outcome is that if u eat, u will get natural vitamins from food b filled and be assured that tomorrow looks good provided all is well but if u don't eat, u might go hungry and.might not miss vitamins as u might be taking vit tabs.

So God knows the end from the beginning but it is ur job to choose the beginning.

Orunto:
Once you are "Born Again", you are out of the destiny of evil. Your prayers should thenceforth be "lead us not into temptation and deliver us from evil."

Strawman:
Lol now I know I've been discussing with a confused man

God is unchangeable, destiny isn't. Start using your sense please lol

Funkybabee:
@op u are not a believer because if so you would have know the truth
let me give u an example in the beginning when God create Adam and eve he told them what to eat and what does not supposed to eat.do u know the reason why is because he know the result of each thing that is why he left them to choose what they want not as if he have already know what they will choose. is as if you born a pikin and you know what he can do and what he can't but mind you u cannot stop him from what he wish to do because that is what he choose so u better pray make only spirit manifest in ur life and explain the word in spirit for u.

Strawman:
Lol now I know I've been discussing with a confused man

God is unchangeable, destiny isn't. Start using your sense please lol

Owliver:
correct now you are talking. destiny is changeable. which means the definition according to religious people should be reviewed.


or simply there is nothing as destiny. gbam. na now you come back.

welcome.

Owliver:
before anyone gets something right he must first be confused. so being confused is not bad. so I understand why you were confused about my level of confusion. lolz

Strawman:
Oga na still God wey go change the destiny, like I said, so if you wn rejoice say I don win this argument, you are free .



Hahaha confused man

Owliver:
well let's assume you are right. God will help us

Richydos:
U just said God knew Adam will be sinning n though he gave him d freewill of making his decision...... N if God truly knew he was gonna sin against him... Y banish n curse him when he actually sinned.... Can u pls explain

gabazin080:
i used to hear people say dis always. when something happened you see people say its GOD, that God knows about it. they say he already knows and has programmed everything that will happen to humans. if this is true then it means if I sin now he already knows I will. it means he already knows I will create this topic today. it also means am not @ fault for any sin I commit because he has already programmed my activities and know I will sin.
I asked my boss who happens to be a pastor dis question and his reply didn't answer my question. so nairalanders I want your views on this. is it true GOD has known everything that will happen to us

gabazin080:
i used to hear people say dis always. when something happened you see people say its GOD, that God knows about it. they say he already knows and has programmed everything that will happen to humans. if this is true then it means if I sin now he already knows I will. it means he already knows I will create this topic today. it also means am not @ fault for any sin I commit because he has already programmed my activities and know I will sin.
I asked my boss who happens to be a pastor dis question and his reply didn't answer my question. so nairalanders I want your views on this. is it true GOD has known everything that will happen to us

malvisguy212:
Read the story of the prodigal son, did the father love the child ? Yes, when the child ask for his inheritance, even when the father knows , the boy is making a big mistake, did he interfere in his decision ? No, he allow the boy to make the mistake so that he will learn, hoping the son will return one day.

platypus:
that was a very good one from you.
Now the question is; did the father destined the child to be a prodigal son? Is the father the cause of the child's mistake?
It will not be fare to blame the father for the child's decision. That is where the issue of freewill comes in. From the father 's experience in life, he knows the boy 'can' make mistake, but the father does not decide if the boy 'will' make mistakes.
It's purely the boy's decision.
God knows if we do good, better future awaits us. And the opposite if we do bad. Deutaronomy 30:19.
Whether we do good or bad is purely our decision

Owliver:
so gods "destiny" is now prediction? like nairabet? tombo tombo Abi?

if that destiny cannot be reached then it was never the destiny.

destiny is unchanged(as you people say)



feel me dear.