Augustine21:
@nineteenth, people make sacrifices for their dreams. The prospects of having a better life as a graduate of a German university is high. What is 90k and danfo? If you have been earning 90k for 3yrs now ,I can boldly tell you that the value of your salary is now around 45k. The things you could buy for 20k last 2yrs will cost around 40k nw.

For some this German dream is just a " let me try thing" for others it's a major step to their futures. If it is worth it or not is based on your vision. For people who have a strong plan, quitting a job or selling a property is a must pay price. You would be amazed if you know what many have done to raise blocked account cash. I know a guy who was working for a petroleum company and earning well. Before he got his job he had this German dream, so he worked and saved for 3yrs. After 3yrs, he quitted his relatively high paying job and left for Germany( many would never try that).Today, He is not regretting it one bit.

I will never make a decision for you. Weigh your options, analyse and decide.
Since you have an admission, you are one leg in.

YOU ARE A MAN. MAKE YOUR DECISION AND BE RESONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

Team Winter.





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lobito007:

And is he going to do these all his life? What of the opportunities the education acquired will open to him? I think this is about making short-term sacrifices for long-term gains. I am in a similar situation, in fact, I earn substantially more than what this guy does. I drive an SUV too. Generally, I would say I am doing fine. In spite of all these, I will be quitting my job to study in a world-class university in this same Germany. Not an easy decision to make. In fact, I keep thinking of deferring till next year or even cancelling it and just do my MSc here in naija. But then, I ask myself, 'after the programme abroad, will I be better off ?' I always answer in the affirmative. Average take-home salary of an MSc holder in Germany is €2500. At an exchange rate of 400 Naira to 1€, that's N1m. Except you work for an oil company, you will have to be a manager with 15+ years of experience to earn that much here. More so, with your German MSc, plus, say 3 years of work experience in a German firm, do you know what you can command in monthly salary here in Nigeria. If you never leave your comfort zone, then you will never know how many opportunities are out there waiting to be grabbed. One only needs to take that bold step. You may be doing well now, but ask yourself, 'can I do better than this?' if your answer is 'yes', then go for it.

pompido:


I just want to leave something here....No one has said that money is easy to come by in Germany as the work is not for the lazy and you actually do the work for the money you make unlike in naija where you can laze around and still get paid but I strongly disagree with you on the fact that what holding on to a 90k job is better than coming here for an education and doing student jobs. I am actually shocked that you that have been here for a while will make that kind of statement (or maybe you are not here yet...not sure).

Let me try my hands on some maths here....

90k per month is less than 250euros at some reasonable exchange rate (Azimo things). That is 3 days work @ 107euros every 12hour shift done. Realities here people....Realities.

Ok, so imagine you being here and work only 4 days in a month and make 431Euros. In most places, this takes care of your rent and insurance. Feeding and general aggrandizement is up to you. So double that and work 8days and do the maths. To be fair to everyone, after the a 12hour shift (day or night) you will kaput for another 6 hours sleeping and booting up to functionality which is where planning comes into play so you only take shifts when it suits you. Making upwards of 700euros a month is very very possible and enough time to attend lectures and all. Tell me how you will not be comfortable and even send money home at that rate. Bear in mind that it isn't even what you make during holidays.

Again, like i said, this isn't going to be the case in all cities but true for most cities and even smaller regions.

Please do not take this to heart but as a pointer to what is very possible out here.

I just do not agree and completely disagree with the notion of holding on to a 90k job in Nigeria when you will have to make a whole lot more than that here and also enjoy a much better life and education.

P.S: Converting your student status to a full resident is also not for 2 headed people. Yes, people do all sorts to extend their student status when they can't find a job but let us be realistic here, how will most get jobs when they do not even have skills to offer. Getting ahead anywhere takes personal commitments so look ahead and see what works in your area of specialization and get the skills needed and of course the language and then see if you will not get jobs and get your permits. I have personally not heard of the Alien's office demanding that a German be given preference over others for a position...this is a country with very low unemployment rate. This is not Canada and once you graduate with a degree in a school here, you are good to go.

Please let us ease off on these scare tactics, I would advice anyone that want to come try things out here to look at all the possibilities and weigh them. If it tilts towards you, please let no one deter you because even they that keep saying "don't leave certainty for uncertainty" have not left the uncertainty and headed back to the supposed certainty.

DawnEden:
@pompido, awon ti kiel. U r explaining this issue well. BABA GOD, Priority and planning is the key. But I won ask all these your epistles wey u write? sey na google voice or typewriter u dey use # Teamwinter2016 #Freiburg #REM

lobito007:

Bro, have you been admitted for this program or awaiting?

Augustine21:
@nineteenth, people make sacrifices for their dreams. The prospects of having a better life as a graduate of a German university is high. What is 90k and danfo? If you have been earning 90k for 3yrs now ,I can boldly tell you that the value of your salary is now around 45k. The things you could buy for 20k last 2yrs will cost around 40k nw.

For some this German dream is just a " let me try thing" for others it's a major step to their futures. If it is worth it or not is based on your vision. For people who have a strong plan, quitting a job or selling a property is a must pay price. You would be amazed if you know what many have done to raise blocked account cash. I know a guy who was working for a petroleum company and earning well. Before he got his job he had this German dream, so he worked and saved for 3yrs. After 3yrs, he quitted his relatively high paying job and left for Germany( many would never try that).Today, He is not regretting it one bit.

I will never make a decision for you. Weigh your options, analyse and decide.
Since you have an admission, you are one leg in.

YOU ARE A MAN. MAKE YOUR DECISION AND BE RESONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

Team Winter.


Thanks for this wonderful response, it's highly appreciated.

DiBoss:
NRW, the best German State for students! Low cost of living, a lot of unskilled jobs, friendly people. These are the things any prospective student should put into consideration before choosing a school. You cannot compare the cost of living in Duisburg, Essen, Dortmund, Düsseldorf etc. with any city in Bavaria. My little advice!

DiBoss:
NRW, the best German State for students! Low cost of living, a lot of unskilled jobs, friendly people. These are the things any prospective student should put into consideration before choosing a school. You cannot compare the cost of living in Duisburg, Essen, Dortmund, Düsseldorf etc. with any city in Bavaria. My little advice!

lamingo:


i sent you a PM, could you kindly reply or you could send me a pm (if you have issues replying mine).

bloomberg:
On the issue o renewal, A friend told me that he went with a one year insurance and they issued a one year residence and he asked the Ausländerbehörder that most students have two years residence then they said he brought a one year insurance and he gets one year residence.

I have seen someone who returned to Naija because he could neither fund his account nor get VE, this one no be them say.

One thing i know for sure is that different people different stories what works for A might not work for B. Last year I applied to a school thru uni-assist and they sent me a mail that my application is incomplete, i emailed the school and they requested my application from uni-assist at the end a conditional admission was given but €8k no show.
In as much as I appreciate what everybody contributes i can say everyone is right depending on their own situation and experience. Nobody is discouraging anybody, go and experience it yourself.
#WinterMannschaft2016

Neyoalao:
I most say am a little bit surprised that even people in Germany are trying to discourage people from taking short term risk.... nothing good comes easy. I will prefer working in a country where most of my salaries go to taxes that i actively benefit from and i know i have a very bright career that I can buzz into any developed country again and make it. Nothing good comes easy. What should guys that spend millions on school in USA Canada even UK that will send u away after education say. Go to USA student page here on NL and see how people working for big companies resign just to have to study in America and have a better life.
What happened to finishing masters and working to gain experience and buzz to Canada via PR parole. What happened to enrolling in the States for a fully funded PhD position. It's all about risk sirs and mas. Its all about what you plan for yourself and what you believe passionately in. You are a product of what you think.
Why will i give up having a world class education at relatively cheap rate and opportunity to explore the world and meet great minds just because.
As much as we will love to hear the - ve and +ve give us vital information that has kept you going despite all odd. At the end it all boils down to the level of information that is available to one.

Fesobi92:
nevilbolt and pompody have spoken well. I think both of em r tryna give us what is obtainable over there. personally, I believe our "why" should be the motivating force. why? why would I want to leave my 90k/300k paying job for germo? why would I want to sell my house for a dream? why would I want to sell my danfo that's earning me sth aidY? why would I want to switch my comfort zone in Nigeria where I know a lot ta people aidy for germo where I know nobody except God? it's a personal and thought provoking question which u have to be honest with yourself.
once you know your why is worth all your landed properties even with any inheritance(in case u have one) or borrowed money ,then why not? I am a dreamer. I love dreams and I aggressively pursue them streetly (in olamides voice). if your dream is to pursue an MSc probly following that up with a PhD, why start thinking about "if things nor work nko or if I nor see job". shuu! nawa you oooh. it's your dream man. chase it. I heard u need the language to increase your chances of getting a Job after studies, man what r u doing now? reading this epistle? start now(with a street mindset). if u r IT related, be proficient in at least a programming language. Get yourself pimped soteh u go become hard to refuse for any potential employer. From my little experience, it's about what u can do not what u have studied in school. forget naija graduate mentality, get acquainted with the reality. love-vendor yourself with the necessary skill and wait on God to do the best. On the renewal issh, I think the ancestors should tell us how they go about theirs. you guys keep saying students job o, e no easy,e nor shegba, pepese kan, e no shey kinikankinikan (mean no disrespect Biko, edakun) and u r still there u never come back house. tell us how u do am. I know of scholarship for outstanding students after the first year e.g. Heidelberg Msc scientific computing dey give 800yuros (nor mind the spelling ) for top 25% students. who tell us say we nor fit tip the class? additionally, u can apply for other available scholarship. haba!shey we nor fit find sponsors for the second year ni sef? nawa oo. I believe there must be a way out aside depending on people home for second year funding(well nah the ancestors sabi pass).
my point is, let your reason for going germo be string so that when the challenges cone, you will be strong and conquer.

urchman101:

Did you apply for MSc Scientific Computing at University of Heidelberg?

Fesobi92:

yeah boss. you too?

urchman101:

Yes oh. Any reply yet? I have sent a PM to you.

biglord:
I couldn't help it. Hailings boss. Pls which city are u?

DawnEden:
@pompido, awon ti kiel. U r explaining this issue well. BABA GOD, Priority and planning is the key. But I won ask all these your epistles wey u write? sey na google voice or typewriter u dey use # Teamwinter2016 #Freiburg #REM

lobito007:

And is he going to do these all his life? What of the opportunities the education acquired will open to him? I think this is about making short-term sacrifices for long-term gains. I am in a similar situation, in fact, I earn substantially more than what this guy does. I drive an SUV too. Generally, I would say I am doing fine. In spite of all these, I will be quitting my job to study in a world-class university in this same Germany. Not an easy decision to make. In fact, I keep thinking of deferring till next year or even cancelling it and just do my MSc here in naija. But then, I ask myself, 'after the programme abroad, will I be better off ?' I always answer in the affirmative. Average take-home salary of an MSc holder in Germany is €2500. At an exchange rate of 400 Naira to 1€, that's N1m. Except you work for an oil company, you will have to be a manager with 15+ years of experience to earn that much here. More so, with your German MSc, plus, say 3 years of work experience in a German firm, do you know what you can command in monthly salary here in Nigeria. If you never leave your comfort zone, then you will never know how many opportunities are out there waiting to be grabbed. One only needs to take that bold step. You may be doing well now, but ask yourself, 'can I do better than this?' if your answer is 'yes', then go for it.

Bleuocean:


I live in Germany..
1. that your 2,500 euro take home have you removed your 2 bed room flat accommodation of 600 euro monthly
2. have you removed 80 euro monthly for AOK insurance
3. have you removed 85 euro monthly for electricity and also remove water bill?
4. have you added some years to integrate here to work in German company after graduation cos language is key here?
5. Have you removed 135 car insurance monthly or 150 train ticket to work monthly depending on where you live

this calculation is based on earning 2500 which is never posible all u can eran after tax is 1600 and they are all gobe on bills bills bilss.
600 or 700 euro monthly on houseing at 400 naira per euro is 280k naira per month just for house rent .... does this not pay rent in naija for a year in come cities like Benin?

so when you come here you go understand.. also the graduating rate here is very low... how many nairaland guys u don see came back here to thank God they have graduated? If you fail any exam here 3 times then you are kicked out and ex-matriculated.. and their grading system high cos u need 50 to have ordinary pass grade as 4.0 rather than naija where 40 is pass and 50 which is ordinary pass here is credit in naija, uk and usa and Canada. Their grading system here is killing. German machines...