vicol:



I will try and find time to do a video clip as suggested. It requires a bit of force (pull) though.

That'll be great!

I've not done anything like this before. It's either I have it on or not have it at all but explore other means of securing the property but this quest seem to put me on a rethink.

I'll do mine and post the videos here. Just that it may take some days to actualize cos I'll want to setup a live test center and show all the installation and schematics.

Hoping it'll come out good.

Very useful bit of information, the kind that the thread was created for, instead of the gloating about the castle we keep reading.
Lets assume one does not want to collect the rain water for later use, is it safe to say that the rain water gutter should drain into a drainage chamber ?
Is it the rain water that sometimes contributes to some of the dips we see on interlocked surfaces or is that strictly to do with the ramming of the surface/preparation before sharp sand and interlock goes on it ?

@Jessam, Keep it up with the local produce, and may God continue to ensure that you succeed. Big scam that a country as blessed as Nigeria imports frozen livestock/poultry.

Mav

Jessam:


The main purpose of a rain gutter is to protect a building's foundation by channeling water away from its base. The gutter also helps to reduce erosion, protects painted or stained surfaces by reducing exposure to water and provides a means to collect rainwater for later use. Rainwater is a natural element that can wreak havoc on a house if it’s not controlled by properly installed and maintained rain gutters. There are many misconceptions about gutters and as a result there are many mistakes homeowners are making. In some cases these mistakes are causing damage rather than preventing it.

The Benefits of Gutters
The importance of properly installed and maintained gutters can’t be stressed enough. Every house should have gutters. Here’s why rain gutters are so important:

Soil around the house is stabilized - even raft foundations can fail if there is not even sinking, the slab can fracture if one part of the building is sinking faster than the other, mostly the area that are water saturated sink faster i.e area around building with no guttering
Foundation problems can be avoided
Flooding under houses can be prevented
Erosion can be prevented and this preserves landscaping and turf
Water damage to siding can be prevented
Water staining of painted exterior walls and stone masonry can be prevented - thats why you see some buildings with green mould on exterior, thats excess moisture
Settling and cracking of sidewalks, interlock stone pavements and driveways can be lessened
Exterior doors adoors can be preserved

This rain.. Since yesterday

KolaShangOne:
This rain.. Since yesterday

no be small thing baba

KolaShangOne:
This rain.. Since yesterday

no be small thing baba....

peaceland:
@ all,
please all warriors should please let there be permanent peace please. Sometimes you just let go; though painful or hurting.
Surprised to be reading these things again.
Thanks

May you lose N27m in the mighty name of Jesus and come here to testify that you have let it go . Amen.

Jessam:


The main purpose of a rain gutter is to protect a building's foundation by channeling water away from its base. The gutter also helps to reduce erosion, protects painted or stained surfaces by reducing exposure to water and provides a means to collect rainwater for later use. Rainwater is a natural element that can wreak havoc on a house if it’s not controlled by properly installed and maintained rain gutters. There are many misconceptions about gutters and as a result there are many mistakes homeowners are making. In some cases these mistakes are causing damage rather than preventing it.

The Benefits of Gutters
The importance of properly installed and maintained gutters can’t be stressed enough. Every house should have gutters. Here’s why rain gutters are so important:

Soil around the house is stabilized - even raft foundations can fail if there is not even sinking, the slab can fracture if one part of the building is sinking faster than the other, mostly the area that are water saturated sink faster i.e area around building with no guttering
Foundation problems can be avoided
Flooding under houses can be prevented
Erosion can be prevented and this preserves landscaping and turf
Water damage to siding can be prevented
Water staining of painted exterior walls and stone masonry can be prevented - thats why you see some buildings with green mould on exterior, thats excess moisture
Settling and cracking of sidewalks, interlock stone pavements and driveways can be lessened
Exterior doors adoors can be preserved

I see your point and this is same reason that most advocates for the roof water collector give. However, will this reason hold for buildings with foundations continuously in water? Because from basic building knowledge that I have, raft is used in water logged areas because the foundation is expected to be in water for most part of the year and if blocks were to be used, they will be weakened.

As an example, I have a place in a water logged area on the mainland. Even though I have sand-filled, when you dig up to 70cm, you will hit water and when it rains heavily, you need to only dig 30 cm and you will hit water. in this kind of case, of what use is a roof gutter? the main source of the water is not even water from your roof but the natural water level for the area. The street gutter is usually always with water. Mind you, on this house, I have roof water collector that is channeled to the street gutter but I had to sit down to ask myself that aside from aesthetics, what is this roof gutter really doing? Water will hit the building one way or the other. The roof water collector takes the rain water and channels it to the gutter alright. But the gutter is usually at the natural water level of the area so what's the point?

In my opinion, I believe the reasons you gave will fly for dry areas like where OGA Mufutau55 and EgunMogaji are building. By this I mean areas that are usually dry and are likely to only get temporary wet during lengthy rainfall. But for areas like mine that is continuously in water, I feel it does not fly because channeling the roof water or not doesn't reduce the height of water around your foundation. Unless you are channeling it for further use via a receptive tank.

I might be wrong so I am open to correction

danowena

It would be good to get the views of our engineers on the application of water gutters, where it is useful and where it may not make a difference.

@danowena, Can i also ask, when you say if you dig 30cm you may see water, is this like ground water like a well or just water that has nowhere to flow to ? I am just trying to understand, you know i am not a building engineer.

Lastly, what kind of foundation did you implement ?

danowena:


I see your point and this is same reason that most advocates for the roof gutters give. However, will this reason hold for buildings with foundations continuously in water? Because from basic building knowledge that I have, raft is used in water logged areas because the foundation is expected to be in water for most part of the year and if blocks were to be used, they will be weakened.

As an example, I have a place in a water logged area on the mainland. Even though I have sand-filled, when you dig up to 70cm, you will hit water and when it rains heavily, you need to only dig 30 cm and you will hit water. in this kind of case, of what use is a roof gutter? the main source of the water is not even water from your roof but the natural water level for the area. The street gutter is usually always with water. Mind you, I have roof gutter on this house but I had to sit down to ask myself that aside from aesthetics, what is this roof gutter really doing? Water will hit the building one way or the other. he roof water collector takes the rain water and channels it to the gutter alright. But the gutter is usually at the natural water level of the area so what's the point.
In my opinion, I believe the reasons you gave will fly for dry areas like where OGA Mufutau55 and EgunMogaji are building. By this I mean areas that are usually dry and are likely to only get temporary wet during lengthy rain. But for areas like mine that is continuously in water, I feel it does not fly because channeling the roof water or not doesn't reduce the height of water around your foundation.

I might be wrong and open to correction.

mavverick:
danowena

It would be good to get the views of our engineers on the application of water gutters, where it is useful and where it may not make a difference.

@danowena, Can i also ask, when you say if you dig 30cm you may see water, is this like ground water like a well or just water that has nowhere to flow to ? I am just trying to understand, you know i am not a building engineer.

Lastly, what kind of foundation did you implement ?

That is the level the wells in the area are. you need only a very short rope to fetch water from the well all year round. The longest rope we used in the area was about 1.5 metres during the end of the harmattan.
I used raft foundation. Although some people that built bungalows used blocks that were filled with concrete. Some of them are regretting that move already.

Wow, The most i have seen myself is about 4 metres before you hit water, and even in some parts of Surulere, I have seen over 6 metres.

Sorry if I may ask, you dont have to answer this. What is the name of the area/locality. You can also PM me if you dont want to reveal this.

They say, you learn something new everyday.

danowena:


That is the level the wells in the area are. you need only a very short rope to fetch water from the well all year round. The longest rope we used in the area was about 1.5 metres during the end of the harmattan.
I used raft foundation. Although some people that built bungalows used blocks that were filled with concrete. Some of them are regretting that move already.

twinskenny:
no be small thing baba

For the past 2 days, it rains for 5mins, stops for 10mins, rains for another 5mins and so forth. Meanwhile, targets are to be met..

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Today's picture day
Can someone tell us what's happening in this pic ?

3strikes:
How can we work together here on Nairaland to make sure fraudsters dont thrive on this wonderful forum? FYI They have been banned from Mega Chicken in ikota where they usually conduct their fraudulent meetings so they now come on Nairaland, parading themselves as pro but in the real sense they are quacks.

Please be careful and avoid that over zealous builder whose office use to be inside IkOTA shopping complex. Don't get carried away with internet pictures and youtube videos.

Be warned!

Ditto.

#MySignature

danowena:


I see your point and this is same reason that most advocates for the roof water collector give. However, will this reason hold for buildings with foundations continuously in water? Because from basic building knowledge that I have, raft is used in water logged areas because the foundation is expected to be in water for most part of the year and if blocks were to be used, they will be weakened.

As an example, I have a place in a water logged area on the mainland. Even though I have sand-filled, when you dig up to 70cm, you will hit water and when it rains heavily, you need to only dig 30 cm and you will hit water. in this kind of case, of what use is a roof gutter? the main source of the water is not even water from your roof but the natural water level for the area. The street gutter is usually always with water. Mind you, on this house, I have roof water collector that is channeled to the street gutter but I had to sit down to ask myself that aside from aesthetics, what is this roof gutter really doing? Water will hit the building one way or the other. The roof water collector takes the rain water and channels it to the gutter alright. But the gutter is usually at the natural water level of the area so what's the point?

In my opinion, I believe the reasons you gave will fly for dry areas like where OGA Mufutau55 and EgunMogaji are building. By this I mean areas that are usually dry and are likely to only get temporary wet during lengthy rainfall. But for areas like mine that is continuously in water, I feel it does not fly because channeling the roof water or not doesn't reduce the height of water around your foundation. Unless you are channeling it for further use via a receptive tank.

I might be wrong so I am open to correction

You are very right. The water still touches the ground. The interesting part of everything in life is that there's a right and wrong way to do things. There's a way to use roof gutter to your advantage in a house and there's a way to use it to your disadvantage. One of the hazard includes wetness and soil erosion which may cause a bigger problem for the foundation. This is caused by uncontrolled water runoff from the roof gutter.

Ensure there's a concrete platform at least to receive the direct hit of the water flow from the roof before redirecting into the flood drains with the compound. Otherwise, it'll only be a matter of time before the receiving ground get soggy and wet. Some will introduce a catch basin (sump or chamber) to collect the waters before redirecting into the perimeter drain.

One can also direct to underground water reservoir for specific purposes.

But it's a good solution for building in waterlogged and dry land.

Your point about having high water table is well noted but really all you want to do is to reduce the volume of water in your compound and redirect to a lower level.

I concur !
Having a lot of monikers does not hide the builder

3strikes:
How can we work together here on Nairaland to make sure fraudsters dont thrive on this wonderful forum? FYI They have been banned from Mega Chicken in ikota where they usually conduct their fraudulent meetings so they now come on Nairaland, parading themselves as pro but in the real sense they are quacks.

Please be careful and avoid that over zealous builder whose office use to be inside IkOTA shopping complex. Don't get carried away with internet pictures and youtube videos.

Dont let them use Mega chicken to Maga you. Dont let them use Mega chicken to collect your Mega millions.

Be warned!

Happykay:
Today's picture day
Can someone tell us what's happening in this pic ?

N3xt to the police or brabus ed in between the police?

3strikes:


N3xt to the police or brabus ed in between the police?

It's 4AM here and I'm laughing like a mofo

Una no go kill pessin for dis place with laff

So I'll be substituting the word for fraud.

Example at computer village = I was almost Brabused into buying a fake phone

Example at club = omo ele yen fe Brabus mi ni sha.

Example at sabo = wo bobo, oje shine oju e ki won malo Brabus e.

EgunMogaji:


It's 4AM here and I'm laughing like a mofo

Una no go kill pessin for dis place with laff

Bros you they think before say na only u sabi grammar?

More importantly is the use of a very good landscape and hardscape to control erosion.

I always play around with varying levels while keeping the drain pipe at a steady slope with multiple large sized floor drains.

The funniest thing about water is it is so easy to tame. It gets weak and tired when you channel its course.

And eventually turn the water problem to your own advantage

It's simple but it require patience, time and resources.

EgunMogaji:


It's 4AM here and I'm laughing like a mofo

Una no go kill pessin for dis place with laff

So I'll be substituting the word for fraud.

Example at computer village = I was almost Brabused into buying a fake phone

Example at club = omo ele yen fe Brabus mi ni sha.

Example at sabo = wo bobo, oje shine oju e ki won malo Brabus e.

Mr Mav was brabused with fake building Approval. Folks shine your eye so you won' t be the N3xt to be Brabused.

Be warned!

Do you think instead of brabused, maybe BOZUNED might be better ?

3strikes:


Mr Mav was brabused with fake building Approval. Folks shine your eye so you won' t be the N3xt to be Brabused.

Be warned!

n3xt:


Ogbeni which target did you set for yourself during rainy season? I hope it's not plastering.

Don't you factor in excusable delays in your contracts? Construction is usually slow and not advisable during the rainy season.


___________
Meanwhile, how far? I left you a whatsapp message.

I always try to push myself and my workers although I want set unrealistic targets.. The earlier we do the job and finish it, the better at reducing overhead cost.

However, all these jobs we sub-contract (windows, doors, burglary etc) can cause unnecessary delays.

Yes I got your message. We hope it's finished soon enough. Thanks Oga brabus

n3xt:


This is cool even though it wouldn't have won you the golden price if I'm the jury because the idea isn't new.

Isn't new to this platform or isn't new to the world ?
Can you point me in the direction of a better alternative
I could easily have proposed this as my design is the point.
Look forward to seeing what you come up with though, i hope to be impressed

allCopacetic:

Isn't new to this platform or isn't new to the world ?
Can you point me in the direction of a better alternative
I could easily have proposed this as my design is the point.
Look forward to seeing what you come up with though, i hope to be impressed

What I mean by not new is that it's not an original creation of allCopacetic.

The quest is to do something that has never been done that can be patented.

Well done bro!

Who are the people in this pic?
Did they get caught doing something wrong? They look really scared.

Happykay:
Today's picture day
Can someone tell us what's happening in this pic ?

Jessam:


The main purpose of a rain gutter is to protect a building's foundation by channeling water away from its base. The gutter also helps to reduce erosion, protects painted or stained surfaces by reducing exposure to water and provides a means to collect rainwater for later use. Rainwater is a natural element that can wreak havoc on a house if it’s not controlled by properly installed and maintained rain gutters. There are many misconceptions about gutters and as a result there are many mistakes homeowners are making. In some cases these mistakes are causing damage rather than preventing it.

The Benefits of Gutters
The importance of properly installed and maintained gutters can’t be stressed enough. Every house should have gutters. Here’s why rain gutters are so important:

Soil around the house is stabilized - even raft foundations can fail if there is not even sinking, the slab can fracture if one part of the building is sinking faster than the other, mostly the area that are water saturated sink faster i.e area around building with no guttering
Foundation problems can be avoided
Flooding under houses can be prevented
Erosion can be prevented and this preserves landscaping and turf
Water damage to siding can be prevented
Water staining of painted exterior walls and stone masonry can be prevented - thats why you see some buildings with green mould on exterior, thats excess moisture
Settling and cracking of sidewalks, interlock stone pavements and driveways can be lessened
Exterior doors adoors can be preserved

I will like to argue some points you raised bt I'm in the bush looking 4 £££££ wen I get home.we go dig am proper

n3xt:


You are very right. The water still touches the ground. The interesting part of everything in life is that there's a right and wrong way to do things. There's a way to use roof gutter to your advantage in a house and there's a way to use it to your disadvantage. One of the hazard includes wetness and soil erosion which may cause a bigger problem for the foundation. This is caused by uncontrolled water runoff from the roof gutter.

Ensure there's a concrete platform at least to receive the direct hit of the water flow from the roof before redirecting into the flood drains with the compound. Otherwise, it'll only be a matter of time before the receiving ground get soggy and wet. Some will introduce a catch basin (sump or chamber) to collect the waters before redirecting into the perimeter drain.

One can also direct to underground water reservoir for specific purposes.

But it's a good solution for building in waterlogged and dry land.

Your point about having high water table is well noted but really all you want to do is to reduce the volume of water in your compound and redirect to a lower level.

That foto is the reason I said it's a waste or not being used for what it's meant 4. Unless you got a storage or mains like this

crisisng:
Who are the people in this pic?
Did they get caught doing something wrong? They look really scared.

which pic? can you repost it plssssssssss?

Qc1:



May you lose N27m in the mighty name of Jesus and come here to testify that you have let it go . Amen.

Thanks a lot for your response & prayers.